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Eric Cantona introduced as Director of Soccer (as opposed to Director of popped collars?) for NY Cosmos.... curiouser and curiouser.
These guys must have a stadium plan they believe in. They are putting too much into this. If they could make this work it would be fantastic for MLS.They now have academies set up on both coasts, have hired a big name US and a big name Euro to run the front office.From Wiki, here is the break down of the structureDirectors * Honorary President: Pelé * Chairman and CEO: Paul Kemsley * Vice-chairman: Terry Byrne * Board of Directors: Carl Johnson, Rick Parry * International Ambassador: Giorgio ChinagliaSoccer structure * Director of Soccer: Eric Cantona * Associate Director of Soccer: Cobi Jones * Academy Directors: Giovanni Savarese, Ted Chronopoulos Management team * Executive Director: Joe Fraga * Chief Marketing Officer: Dan Cherry III * Communications Director: Theresa Tran * Executive Producer: Steve Rodriguez * Vice-president of Business Affairs: Mory Amaro
 
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Ives tweeted that Bobby Wood has been promoted to the first team at 1860 Munich. Wood is a 19 year old striker with the US U20 National team.

He has worked his way up from the U17's, the U19's and U23's on the 1860 Munich sides to get to the big club.

Wood was previously a star for the strong Irvine Strikers of California before moving to Germany at age 13.

 
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Mexico's version of Adu... kind of. So much talent, but can't keep a team.

ATHENS, Greece (AP) — The Greek club Aris says it has signed Mexican forward Nery Castillo on a six-month loan, ending his brief stint at Major League Soccer's Chicago Fire. The club said Wednesday it reached the loan deal with Ukrainian club Shakhtar Donetsk, where the 26-year-old is still contracted. Castillo played seven seasons as a youngster at Greek club Olympiakos before moving to Shaktar, where he has spent much of his time on loan at other clubs, including Manchester City in 2008. Aris announced the deal Wednesday, a day after respected Argentine coach Hector Cuper resigned following a string of poor league results. Aris is eighth in the league with 23 points from 18 matches, and hosts City in the Europa League on Feb. 15.
Even though he is much older that is an excellent analogy. I know many of the Fire fans were disappointed with him last year and which seems to be an ongoing trait with every team he is with.Like Adu, he is loaded with talent so teams are still hoping they can unlock it on a consistent basis.
 
Ives tweeted that Booby Wood has been promoted to the first team at 1860 Munich. Wood is a 19 year old striker with the US U20 National team.

He has worked his way up from the U17's, the U19's and U23's on the 1860 Munich sides to get to the big club.

Wood was previously a star for the strong Irvine Strikers of California before moving to Germany at age 13.
Ummmm. Booby?
 
Ives tweeted that Booby Wood has been promoted to the first team at 1860 Munich. Wood is a 19 year old striker with the US U20 National team.

He has worked his way up from the U17's, the U19's and U23's on the 1860 Munich sides to get to the big club.

Wood was previously a star for the strong Irvine Strikers of California before moving to Germany at age 13.
Ummmm. Booby?
lol. nice typo :shrug: let me fix that.
 
Mexico's version of Adu... kind of. So much talent, but can't keep a team.

ATHENS, Greece (AP) — The Greek club Aris says it has signed Mexican forward Nery Castillo on a six-month loan, ending his brief stint at Major League Soccer's Chicago Fire. The club said Wednesday it reached the loan deal with Ukrainian club Shakhtar Donetsk, where the 26-year-old is still contracted. Castillo played seven seasons as a youngster at Greek club Olympiakos before moving to Shaktar, where he has spent much of his time on loan at other clubs, including Manchester City in 2008. Aris announced the deal Wednesday, a day after respected Argentine coach Hector Cuper resigned following a string of poor league results. Aris is eighth in the league with 23 points from 18 matches, and hosts City in the Europa League on Feb. 15.
Even though he is much older that is an excellent analogy. I know many of the Fire fans were disappointed with him last year and which seems to be an ongoing trait with every team he is with.Like Adu, he is loaded with talent so teams are still hoping they can unlock it on a consistent basis.
And like Adu, he had a signature performance for his country (a country that he chose, while other countries fought for him) against Brazil in an important competition. Granted- Nery was playing for his sides senior team and not it's u-20 squad.Does anybody know Castillo's story- why the hell has he fallen so far? Lack of effort? Injuries? I mean, after that Brazil game, the whole world was after this guy, and now he can't make it stick in MLS?
 
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I like Darren Bent but I just don't put him in this kind of company. He's a poacher and every team needs one. But he isn't going to be a creative force for Villa and be worth this kind of money.
I think you have to factor in the cost of getting relegated. My understanding is that simply being in the EPL confers a massive amount of revenue. Even if Bent doens't turn out to be a great long-term investment, as long as he can keep them in the EPL it might still be worth it.
 
Andy- I completely agree that the Cosmos have something in play behind the scenes. I'm not sure where they're supposed to play their games- someplace existing (maybe combine with the BullMetros, ala Chivas/Gals?) or build new... somewhere (Russian Net's owner I could see getting behind this in Brooklyn... somewhere). For that matter- they don't even have a senior team yet, IIRC- only newly formed academies (smart to have them on both coasts, though).

I don't think the Cantona position is much more than ceremonial at this point (from the Cosmos website): "Says Eric Cantona, “I am very honored to join the legendary club New York Cosmos. It’s a big project, a wonderful project. The Cosmos are very strong, beautifully made, with a great past. It’s kind of a mix between football and art. In addition to my artistic engagements, I will do everything that I can to help us first find our way to regain the #1 position in the United States, and then for us to become one of the best clubs in the world over the coming years.” " But regardless of his actual input in the near term, it's a great PR move.

The Cosmos management team seems to be lining up their ducks extraordinarily well, but to what near-term end without a team or stadium?

 
prefontaine said:
I like Darren Bent but I just don't put him in this kind of company. He's a poacher and every team needs one. But he isn't going to be a creative force for Villa and be worth this kind of money.
I think you have to factor in the cost of getting relegated. My understanding is that simply being in the EPL confers a massive amount of revenue. Even if Bent doens't turn out to be a great long-term investment, as long as he can keep them in the EPL it might still be worth it.
Agree- I made, or tried to make the same point. There was an article on ESPN about Bent's transfer... I'll try to find it a link/copy here.eta: here's the article...
Villa investing in Bent's promise of goalsJanuary 17, 2011Email Print By Tom Adams"I can't believe how well it's gone. If the offer of an extension came up I'd be more than happy to sign it. It's all about the football up here. It's all passion, passion, passion, but the supporters' intensity has never scared me. They are looking at me to get the goals and that is a massive confidence booster." Darren Bent, December 2010.• Bent set for £18m Villa moveThough the motivation behind Darren Bent's decision to stun Sunderland by penning a transfer request, rather than putting his name to a new contract at the Stadium of Light, may be difficult to ascertain at present, there is no doubting what convinced Aston Villa to part with £18 million, rising to £24 million, to secure his signature. The second part of December's apparent declaration of faith says it all: in his own words, people look to Bent to "get the goals".And get them he does. Since his arrival in the English top flight following a £2.5 million move from Ipswich to Charlton in June 2005, Bent has scored 81 Premier League goals. Only the lauded Didier Drogba and Wayne Rooney - players who adorn the front of videogames, and decorate walls from Chile to China - have surpassed that tally with 82 apiece in the same timeframe. Bent's record in all competitions with Sunderland reads: played 63, scored 36. It is a deeply impressive strike rate for a side outside the established elite.But doubts remain. Neither Sven-Goran Eriksson, in 2006, nor Fabio Capello four years later were sufficiently impressed by seasonal tallies in excess of 20 goals to allocate a much-prized World Cup place to Bent. Meanwhile, his spell at Tottenham was blighted by inconsistency, and unwarranted abuse from his manager Harry Redknapp, as Bent failed to fully grasp his opportunity at a big club. The suspicion persists that he is prolific, rather than brilliant.It is for those reasons, and not his enviable statistics, that at first glance the £18 million that Villa are prepared to immediately part with seems high - fantastical even - in a market climate that priced Rafael van der Vaart at £8 million in the summer. But it is a calculated gamble by Aston Villa, if a high-stakes one.After all, if there is one thing that the club currently situated 17th in the Premier League needs, it is goals. Stewart Downing is their top scorer in the league with five goals, while Emile Heskey, their most prolific striker, sits alongside defender Ciaran Clark with three. Gabriel Agbonlahor is yet to score in 13 Premier League appearances while John Carew, victim of a falling-out with Gerard Houllier, has also drawn a blank.In their current predicament, with a young and callow squad struggling for inspiration, Villa need an injection of impetus, a focus for optimism, and they hope Bent will be the man to provide it. His record certainly suggests he could be.They are not buying a complete forward in the mould of Thierry Henry, a talismanic inspiration from the Eric Cantona school or a visionary genius like Gianfranco Zola. But goals are Bent's currency, and he trades prolifically in them. Left alone to spearhead an attack - a role that was denied to him during the only blot on his club CV at Spurs - he has proven he will thrive, and decide games on a regular basis.In fact, with the arrival of Sunderland's £13 million club record signing Asamoah Gyan in the summer, it could be argued that Bent's effectiveness has declined with the arrival of a fellow goalscorer to steal his thunder, and one league goal since November certainly suggests a tailing off of form. A share of the limelight will certainly not be a problem in Aston Villa's turgid attack at present.Whatever the reason for turning his back on Wearside, Bent's decision certainly appears a perplexing one. Swapping an upwardly-mobile Sunderland side, placed sixth in the table, for a relegation battle is bizarre, even more so when you consider Bent has always cut a very happy figure in the North East, and has enjoyed a very amiable relationship with Sunderland supporters.Certainly the transfer, if it happens, reflects badly on Sunderland. Under the ownership of Ellis Short and guidance of Niall Quinn and Steve Bruce, the club appeared to have made significant strides this season - most notably the England debut handed to Jordan Henderson and the acquisition of Gyan, a member of the Ballon d'Or award long list. Bent's determination to leave represents regression on the club's part. It also generates confusion as to the striker's own intent. For Aston Villa, though, it is a huge show of support in Houllier, and a statement of intent for a side banking on their imminent new signing's goals to lift them clear of relegation danger.
 
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So- any thoughts on the EPL MVP so far? Tevez in a runaway, followed by Bale, IMO. Vidic not far behind.
Tevez followed by Nasri. Problem with Bale is that he hasn't been demonstrably better than Van der Vaart for his own team in EPL play.
:link: I think Bale has been better than VdV- and more dangerous (in terms of what player the opposing team fears the most and game-plans for). But VdV is probably the transfer MVP of the year so far- and has been fantastic for Spurs.

 
Andy- I completely agree that the Cosmos have something in play behind the scenes. I'm not sure where they're supposed to play their games- someplace existing (maybe combine with the BullMetros, ala Chivas/Gals?) or build new... somewhere (Russian Net's owner I could see getting behind this in Brooklyn... somewhere). For that matter- they don't even have a senior team yet, IIRC- only newly formed academies (smart to have them on both coasts, though).

I don't think the Cantona position is much more than ceremonial at this point (from the Cosmos website): "Says Eric Cantona, “I am very honored to join the legendary club New York Cosmos. It’s a big project, a wonderful project. The Cosmos are very strong, beautifully made, with a great past. It’s kind of a mix between football and art. In addition to my artistic engagements, I will do everything that I can to help us first find our way to regain the #1 position in the United States, and then for us to become one of the best clubs in the world over the coming years.” " But regardless of his actual input in the near term, it's a great PR move.

The Cosmos management team seems to be lining up their ducks extraordinarily well, but to what near-term end without a team or stadium?
To be fair though having a senior side already alive is a relatively recent phenomenon for MLS expansion teams. Toronto FC and Chicago both started from scratch with dispersal drafts. The lack of a stadium is the big issue. The team can be easily put together especially if they use 2-3 DP slots.
 
Andy- I completely agree that the Cosmos have something in play behind the scenes. I'm not sure where they're supposed to play their games- someplace existing (maybe combine with the BullMetros, ala Chivas/Gals?) or build new... somewhere (Russian Net's owner I could see getting behind this in Brooklyn... somewhere). For that matter- they don't even have a senior team yet, IIRC- only newly formed academies (smart to have them on both coasts, though).

I don't think the Cantona position is much more than ceremonial at this point (from the Cosmos website): "Says Eric Cantona, “I am very honored to join the legendary club New York Cosmos. It’s a big project, a wonderful project. The Cosmos are very strong, beautifully made, with a great past. It’s kind of a mix between football and art. In addition to my artistic engagements, I will do everything that I can to help us first find our way to regain the #1 position in the United States, and then for us to become one of the best clubs in the world over the coming years.” " But regardless of his actual input in the near term, it's a great PR move.

The Cosmos management team seems to be lining up their ducks extraordinarily well, but to what near-term end without a team or stadium?
To be fair though having a senior side already alive is a relatively recent phenomenon for MLS expansion teams. Toronto FC and Chicago both started from scratch with dispersal drafts. The lack of a stadium is the big issue. The team can be easily put together especially if they use 2-3 DP slots.
Good points.I guess having neither a team or stadium seems a bit... far removed from having an MLS reality. I don't know why I thought Toronto and Chicago (and the rest of the expansion MLS teams... wait- the Fire is an expansion team?) were grown from existing teams? But I see your point- between the drafts and DP spots, they'll be able to put together a team quickly. The stadium- especially in NYC- is much more of an issue, especially considering the long arduous road StarREds took to get theirs.

 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.

 
Andy- I completely agree that the Cosmos have something in play behind the scenes. I'm not sure where they're supposed to play their games- someplace existing (maybe combine with the BullMetros, ala Chivas/Gals?) or build new... somewhere (Russian Net's owner I could see getting behind this in Brooklyn... somewhere). For that matter- they don't even have a senior team yet, IIRC- only newly formed academies (smart to have them on both coasts, though).

I don't think the Cantona position is much more than ceremonial at this point (from the Cosmos website): "Says Eric Cantona, “I am very honored to join the legendary club New York Cosmos. It’s a big project, a wonderful project. The Cosmos are very strong, beautifully made, with a great past. It’s kind of a mix between football and art. In addition to my artistic engagements, I will do everything that I can to help us first find our way to regain the #1 position in the United States, and then for us to become one of the best clubs in the world over the coming years.” " But regardless of his actual input in the near term, it's a great PR move.

The Cosmos management team seems to be lining up their ducks extraordinarily well, but to what near-term end without a team or stadium?
To be fair though having a senior side already alive is a relatively recent phenomenon for MLS expansion teams. Toronto FC and Chicago both started from scratch with dispersal drafts. The lack of a stadium is the big issue. The team can be easily put together especially if they use 2-3 DP slots.
*cough* Philly *cough* :thumbup: Seriously though, if the Cosmos can get their stadium deal and ownership fully straightened out (Beckham's option? Heard conflicting reports on whether he can use it on an NYC franchise), timing-wise it could dovetail nicely into the signing of some homegrown players currently being developed out of their academies (not sure if the West Coast academy will be able to continue once they are admitted to MLS but I'm sure they'll work something out). Throw in the practically guaranteed 2-3 DPs they'll sign right off the bat, and the Cosmos might not even have to rely as much as teams like the Union did on expansion drafts.

 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
The number of fans are limited. I am not sure Red Bull would so quickly share their new stadium and potentially split the fan base unless the lease deal was so good they could not turn it down.
 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Reading the fan boards of both teams (Red Bulls and Cosmos), there's certainly enough of a population in greater NYC to support both teams, but the general consensus is that in order for this to work long-term, the Cosmos must play on the New York side of the Hudson River or it will cannibalize both teams. Playing at RBA is a total non-starter for the Cosmos, but I could see them maybe playing in the Meadowlands for a year tops while a stadium gets built in Queens, LI, Brooklyn etc, but if they spend any more time than that in Jersey, it's basically the Metrostars all over again, and it could damage their brand long-term. If given the choice between starting up in 2013 in the Meadowlands for a year, or delaying the launch until 2014 but playing in their own stadium in Queens, IMO most Cosmos fans would choose to wait a year.Bottom line is there appears to be a large number of people in New York who want nothing to do with anything associated with New Jersey, and would ignore the Cosmos if they played in NJ, same way they ignore the Red Bulls. At least that's the sense I get.
 
Andy- I completely agree that the Cosmos have something in play behind the scenes. I'm not sure where they're supposed to play their games- someplace existing (maybe combine with the BullMetros, ala Chivas/Gals?) or build new... somewhere (Russian Net's owner I could see getting behind this in Brooklyn... somewhere). For that matter- they don't even have a senior team yet, IIRC- only newly formed academies (smart to have them on both coasts, though).

I don't think the Cantona position is much more than ceremonial at this point (from the Cosmos website): "Says Eric Cantona, “I am very honored to join the legendary club New York Cosmos. It’s a big project, a wonderful project. The Cosmos are very strong, beautifully made, with a great past. It’s kind of a mix between football and art. In addition to my artistic engagements, I will do everything that I can to help us first find our way to regain the #1 position in the United States, and then for us to become one of the best clubs in the world over the coming years.” " But regardless of his actual input in the near term, it's a great PR move.

The Cosmos management team seems to be lining up their ducks extraordinarily well, but to what near-term end without a team or stadium?
To be fair though having a senior side already alive is a relatively recent phenomenon for MLS expansion teams. Toronto FC and Chicago both started from scratch with dispersal drafts. The lack of a stadium is the big issue. The team can be easily put together especially if they use 2-3 DP slots.
Good points.I guess having neither a team or stadium seems a bit... far removed from having an MLS reality. I don't know why I thought Toronto and Chicago (and the rest of the expansion MLS teams... wait- the Fire is an expansion team?) were grown from existing teams? But I see your point- between the drafts and DP spots, they'll be able to put together a team quickly. The stadium- especially in NYC- is much more of an issue, especially considering the long arduous road StarREds took to get theirs.
Yeah Chicago and Miami were the first two expansion teams in the league. The original 10 were NE, NY, LA, Colorado, Colombus, Dallas, KC, Tampa, SJ and DC

 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Reading the fan boards of both teams (Red Bulls and Cosmos), there's certainly enough of a population in greater NYC to support both teams, but the general consensus is that in order for this to work long-term, the Cosmos must play on the New York side of the Hudson River or it will cannibalize both teams. Playing at RBA is a total non-starter for the Cosmos, but I could see them maybe playing in the Meadowlands for a year tops while a stadium gets built in Queens, LI, Brooklyn etc, but if they spend any more time than that in Jersey, it's basically the Metrostars all over again, and it could damage their brand long-term. If given the choice between starting up in 2013 in the Meadowlands for a year, or delaying the launch until 2014 but playing in their own stadium in Queens, IMO most Cosmos fans would choose to wait a year.Bottom line is there appears to be a large number of people in New York who want nothing to do with anything associated with New Jersey, and would ignore the Cosmos if they played in NJ, same way they ignore the Red Bulls. At least that's the sense I get.
This all makes good sense. I would be ok with the Meadowlands for a season if and only if they have broken ground on a new stadium. Anything else and they could get caught in the same 12 year trap that almost killed the old Metrostars.
 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Reading the fan boards of both teams (Red Bulls and Cosmos), there's certainly enough of a population in greater NYC to support both teams, but the general consensus is that in order for this to work long-term, the Cosmos must play on the New York side of the Hudson River or it will cannibalize both teams. Playing at RBA is a total non-starter for the Cosmos, but I could see them maybe playing in the Meadowlands for a year tops while a stadium gets built in Queens, LI, Brooklyn etc, but if they spend any more time than that in Jersey, it's basically the Metrostars all over again, and it could damage their brand long-term. If given the choice between starting up in 2013 in the Meadowlands for a year, or delaying the launch until 2014 but playing in their own stadium in Queens, IMO most Cosmos fans would choose to wait a year.Bottom line is there appears to be a large number of people in New York who want nothing to do with anything associated with New Jersey, and would ignore the Cosmos if they played in NJ, same way they ignore the Red Bulls. At least that's the sense I get.
This all makes good sense. I would be ok with the Meadowlands for a season if and only if they have broken ground on a new stadium. Anything else and they could get caught in the same 12 year trap that almost killed the old Metrostars.
Did the stadium in Queens around CitiField get shot down as unworkable? I always thought that was the "plan' though I haven't been following the 2nd NY team stuff for awhile now.
 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Reading the fan boards of both teams (Red Bulls and Cosmos), there's certainly enough of a population in greater NYC to support both teams, but the general consensus is that in order for this to work long-term, the Cosmos must play on the New York side of the Hudson River or it will cannibalize both teams. Playing at RBA is a total non-starter for the Cosmos, but I could see them maybe playing in the Meadowlands for a year tops while a stadium gets built in Queens, LI, Brooklyn etc, but if they spend any more time than that in Jersey, it's basically the Metrostars all over again, and it could damage their brand long-term. If given the choice between starting up in 2013 in the Meadowlands for a year, or delaying the launch until 2014 but playing in their own stadium in Queens, IMO most Cosmos fans would choose to wait a year.Bottom line is there appears to be a large number of people in New York who want nothing to do with anything associated with New Jersey, and would ignore the Cosmos if they played in NJ, same way they ignore the Red Bulls. At least that's the sense I get.
This all makes good sense. I would be ok with the Meadowlands for a season if and only if they have broken ground on a new stadium. Anything else and they could get caught in the same 12 year trap that almost killed the old Metrostars.
Did the stadium in Queens around CitiField get shot down as unworkable? I always thought that was the "plan' though I haven't been following the 2nd NY team stuff for awhile now.
Not sure. They are doing enough pr now through these moves that homely some real info will come out.
 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Reading the fan boards of both teams (Red Bulls and Cosmos), there's certainly enough of a population in greater NYC to support both teams, but the general consensus is that in order for this to work long-term, the Cosmos must play on the New York side of the Hudson River or it will cannibalize both teams. Playing at RBA is a total non-starter for the Cosmos, but I could see them maybe playing in the Meadowlands for a year tops while a stadium gets built in Queens, LI, Brooklyn etc, but if they spend any more time than that in Jersey, it's basically the Metrostars all over again, and it could damage their brand long-term. If given the choice between starting up in 2013 in the Meadowlands for a year, or delaying the launch until 2014 but playing in their own stadium in Queens, IMO most Cosmos fans would choose to wait a year.Bottom line is there appears to be a large number of people in New York who want nothing to do with anything associated with New Jersey, and would ignore the Cosmos if they played in NJ, same way they ignore the Red Bulls. At least that's the sense I get.
This all makes good sense. I would be ok with the Meadowlands for a season if and only if they have broken ground on a new stadium. Anything else and they could get caught in the same 12 year trap that almost killed the old Metrostars.
Did the stadium in Queens around CitiField get shot down as unworkable? I always thought that was the "plan' though I haven't been following the 2nd NY team stuff for awhile now.
Here's a snippet from a recent interview in SI.com with Terry Byrne of the Cosmos
SI.com: Ideally, where would that stadium be? How big would it be?

Byrne: There are several zoning areas they're looking at right now. My understanding from the commissioner is their preference is Queens. And how big would that stadium be? I want to say between 30,000 and 40,000. It's not going to be a New Meadowlands, 80,000 to 90,000, and it's not going to be 20,000. I'd like to see between 30,000 and 40,000 every week, ideally.

SI.com: You do have the financing for the MLS expansion fee?

Byrne: Correct.
ETA: Link to the full articleLooks like Queens is still 1st preference.

 
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Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :argue:

Honduras has qualified for the Gold Cup this summer.

KC's new stadium will be one of the sites used for the Gold Cup.

 
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Maintenance manager at works nephew got drafted 10th overall by KC in the supplemental draft.

I am not positive, but I think the supplemental draft is like the minor league draft....I dont have the heart to tell him.

 
Maintenance manager at works nephew got drafted 10th overall by KC in the supplemental draft.I am not positive, but I think the supplemental draft is like the minor league draft....I dont have the heart to tell him.
You are correct.However many players have made the full squads from the supplemental draft so it is still a pretty cool honor. It makes his nephew one of the top few hundred players in the country.
 
LA Galaxy sign Juan Pablo Angel to be their 3rd Designated Player. They had previously acquired his rights in the re-entry draft.
Shoot I was hoping that they were going to be able to save a DP slot and just sign him to a normal deal. He will work wonders though with Donovan up top.Is Landon now classified as a DP? I know for the first couple of years of the DP rule they were able to work around it and he would not take up one of those slots.
 
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Here's a snippet from a recent interview in SI.com with Terry Byrne of the Cosmos

SI.com: Ideally, where would that stadium be? How big would it be?

Byrne: There are several zoning areas they're looking at right now. My understanding from the commissioner is their preference is Queens. And how big would that stadium be? I want to say between 30,000 and 40,000. It's not going to be a New Meadowlands, 80,000 to 90,000, and it's not going to be 20,000. I'd like to see between 30,000 and 40,000 every week, ideally.

SI.com: You do have the financing for the MLS expansion fee?

Byrne: Correct.
ETA: Link to the full articleLooks like Queens is still 1st preference.
hmm, something does not pass the smell test.MLS expansion fee is going to be ~$40m.

A 35k stadium in queens is going to run 350M easily.

Where is this group coming up with $400M? They obviously can't be expecting government help. And while a Becks part ownership would help, they would need 10 or more people at Beck's level if they don't have an Kronkee type or a corporation behind them...

 
LA Galaxy sign Juan Pablo Angel to be their 3rd Designated Player. They had previously acquired his rights in the re-entry draft.
Shoot I was hoping that they were going to be able to save a DP slot and just sign him to a normal deal. He will work wonders though with Donovan up top.Is Landon now classified as a DP? I know for the first couple of years of the DP rule they were able to work around it and he would not take up one of those slots.
Landon's salary was grandfathered in when they created the DP rule in 2007, but that provision expired last year when they revised the DP rules, so LA was forced to use a DP slot on him starting in 2010.
 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :lmao:Honduras has qaulified for the Gold Cup this summer. KC's new stadium will be one of the sites used for the Gold Cup.
Nice. I had no idea it was going to be ready by then.
 
Here's a snippet from a recent interview in SI.com with Terry Byrne of the Cosmos

SI.com: Ideally, where would that stadium be? How big would it be?

Byrne: There are several zoning areas they're looking at right now. My understanding from the commissioner is their preference is Queens. And how big would that stadium be? I want to say between 30,000 and 40,000. It's not going to be a New Meadowlands, 80,000 to 90,000, and it's not going to be 20,000. I'd like to see between 30,000 and 40,000 every week, ideally.

SI.com: You do have the financing for the MLS expansion fee?

Byrne: Correct.
ETA: Link to the full articleLooks like Queens is still 1st preference.
hmm, something does not pass the smell test.MLS expansion fee is going to be ~$40m.

A 35k stadium in queens is going to run 350M easily.

Where is this group coming up with $400M? They obviously can't be expecting government help. And while a Becks part ownership would help, they would need 10 or more people at Beck's level if they don't have an Kronkee type or a corporation behind them...
Not sure about the stadium financing (obviously that's the big nut here, and I'm sure they're hoping the Wilpons get on board), but if Beckham got involved in this, according to this link, the option in Beckham's contract apparently states that he has the option to buy a franchise at 2007 prices, or $25 million. Now, this could end up getting too complicated, and I thought I read somewhere that his option did not apply to teams in NY or LA, but I could be mistaken. But if Becks was allowed in, there would be a savings of at least $15 million on the franchise fee.
 
Maintenance manager at works nephew got drafted 10th overall by KC in the supplemental draft.I am not positive, but I think the supplemental draft is like the minor league draft....I dont have the heart to tell him.
You are correct.However many players have made the full squads from the supplemental draft so it is still a pretty cool honor. It makes his nephew one of the top few hundred players in the country.
Pretty awesome anyway, though.
 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :nerd:Honduras has qaulified for the Gold Cup this summer. KC's new stadium will be one of the sites used for the Gold Cup.
Nice. I had no idea it was going to be ready by then.
yeah thats the goal. Sporting KC will play the first 7 or 8 games on the road and then the stadium is intended to be ready by summer.There will be 13 stadiums used for the Gold Cup. Most make some sense except for Ford Field. That came out of no where. It seems to have replaced Gillette.Cowboys StadiumHDCRed Bull ArenaFord FieldBank of America Stadium (Charlotte)FIU Stadium (Miami)Soldier FieldRFKRelient StadiumRose BowlNew MeadowlandsRaymond James StadiumKC Stadium (not yet named)IMO many of these seem too big. There is no guest appearance this year like Brazil of Gold Cups gone by. Mexico will bang out almost all of these and the US should draw well but other than that it is going to be a bit of a crap shoot for a handful of games. All first round games are going to be double headers.
 
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Maintenance manager at works nephew got drafted 10th overall by KC in the supplemental draft.I am not positive, but I think the supplemental draft is like the minor league draft....I dont have the heart to tell him.
You are correct.However many players have made the full squads from the supplemental draft so it is still a pretty cool honor. It makes his nephew one of the top few hundred players in the country.
Pretty awesome anyway, though.
very awesome. He also joins two Ohio State teammates that are also part of Sporting KC making his transition hopefully easier.
 
re: MetroBullRedStars at Meadowlands... it seems to me it was less about NJ and more about getting to the Meadowlands from the City. PATH train to RBA is easy-peasy... essentially taking a subway right there from Ground Zero.

 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Huge fan base for soccer in Kearny/Harrison/Ironbound section of Newark - best place in the area to have put that stadium.-QG
 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :thumbup:
It would be great if he fit into a fullback role for the USMNT, I've never been a fan of his play at CB(or at all).
LOL - every one of Gooch's weaknesses would be seriously exposed at LB. And the things he does real well - win balls in the air, outmuscle opponents - would be neutered. I'm sure in the Dutch league he is adequate. He's a good player. But he's just much too stiff to step in on the outside even in a pinch at the international level. I doubt Twente play him there long term.
 
Not sure about the stadium financing (obviously that's the big nut here, and I'm sure they're hoping the Wilpons get on board), but if Beckham got involved in this, according to this link, the option in Beckham's contract apparently states that he has the option to buy a franchise at 2007 prices, or $25 million. Now, this could end up getting too complicated, and I thought I read somewhere that his option did not apply to teams in NY or LA, but I could be mistaken. But if Becks was allowed in, there would be a savings of at least $15 million on the franchise fee.
No, I have seen the same.
 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :unsure:
It would be great if he fit into a fullback role for the USMNT, I've never been a fan of his play at CB(or at all).
LOL - every one of Gooch's weaknesses would be seriously exposed at LB. And the things he does real well - win balls in the air, outmuscle opponents - would be neutered. I'm sure in the Dutch league he is adequate. He's a good player. But he's just much too stiff to step in on the outside even in a pinch at the international level. I doubt Twente play him there long term.
Totally agree.If you're not a fan of Gooch at CB, who are you a fan of for the USMNT at that position? I mean- I like how Bocanegra's done, but his weaknesses (pace, mostly) aren't that much different than Gooch's. And going back... Marcello Balboa?

I think we've got a good crop of young players that will hopefully fill that position, but honestly- IMO, he's the prototypical center back, and about as good/dominating at the position for the US as I can remember.

 
I don't see why they wouldn't play in the MetroBull stadium until they can work something out in a better location (like Brooklyn) and steal the NY fans who don't want to go to NJ to see a game. if they can take the subway instead of PATH, all the better.
Huge fan base for soccer in Kearny/Harrison/Ironbound section of Newark - best place in the area to have put that stadium.-QG
Yeah- made sense for the BullREds... but I'm reading Z as saying that the Cosmos will need a better location for their future stadium, not that the current RBA needs a better location. Unless you think (which I doubt) it makes sense for both stadiums to be near Kearny?
 
Not sure about the stadium financing (obviously that's the big nut here, and I'm sure they're hoping the Wilpons get on board), but if Beckham got involved in this, according to this link, the option in Beckham's contract apparently states that he has the option to buy a franchise at 2007 prices, or $25 million. Now, this could end up getting too complicated, and I thought I read somewhere that his option did not apply to teams in NY or LA, but I could be mistaken. But if Becks was allowed in, there would be a savings of at least $15 million on the franchise fee.
I've read the same thing about Beckham's option not applying to NY. At the same time, I don't think MLS thought they'd get to 19 so quickly or be in a position to negotiate the TV deal. It just makes too much sense for him not to be involved in some way with the Cosmos. I also find it interesting that Cantona is featured prominantly on the MLS homepage under editor's picks. I also think its ixnay on the Wilpon angle in any meaningful way until all this Madoff stuff gets totally settled. Supposedly they (and the Mets LC) took out more than they put in, so they are on the hook for some $$ (one of the reasons the Mets didn't do anything this offseason).

 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :goodposting:
It would be great if he fit into a fullback role for the USMNT, I've never been a fan of his play at CB(or at all).
LOL - every one of Gooch's weaknesses would be seriously exposed at LB. And the things he does real well - win balls in the air, outmuscle opponents - would be neutered. I'm sure in the Dutch league he is adequate. He's a good player. But he's just much too stiff to step in on the outside even in a pinch at the international level. I doubt Twente play him there long term.
Totally agree.If you're not a fan of Gooch at CB, who are you a fan of for the USMNT at that position? I mean- I like how Bocanegra's done, but his weaknesses (pace, mostly) aren't that much different than Gooch's. And going back... Marcello Balboa?

I think we've got a good crop of young players that will hopefully fill that position, but honestly- IMO, he's the prototypical center back, and about as good/dominating at the position for the US as I can remember.
I don't understand why Califf didn't get a bigger role.
 
I've read the same thing about Beckham's option not applying to NY. At the same time, I don't think MLS thought they'd get to 19 so quickly or be in a position to negotiate the TV deal.
I 100% agree with the unsure they were going to get to 19 so quickly, but they absolutely knew the Fox deal was running out this year.The ESPN deal goes through 2014.

 
I've read the same thing about Beckham's option not applying to NY. At the same time, I don't think MLS thought they'd get to 19 so quickly or be in a position to negotiate the TV deal.
I 100% agree with the unsure they were going to get to 19 so quickly, but they absolutely knew the Fox deal was running out this year.The ESPN deal goes through 2014.
Yes, but I don't think back in 2007 they thought they would be in the position to potentially have such a good/viable TV deal. Back then they were still worried about getting every team in a SSS and were happy getting the games on TV. I don't think they thought that both revenue/cost streams would potentially end up being so much more favorable then (its one of the reason the option is $25 million and now the entrance fee is $45 million). I'm sure they thought he'd execute this deal further down the road.
 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :thumbup:
It would be great if he fit into a fullback role for the USMNT, I've never been a fan of his play at CB(or at all).
LOL - every one of Gooch's weaknesses would be seriously exposed at LB. And the things he does real well - win balls in the air, outmuscle opponents - would be neutered. I'm sure in the Dutch league he is adequate. He's a good player. But he's just much too stiff to step in on the outside even in a pinch at the international level. I doubt Twente play him there long term.
I think his biggest weaknesses are his slow reaction time and tendency to get caught flat-footed which are already seriously exposed at CB and largely contributed to the first three goals against the US during the World Cup. I think he is a liability in the center of the defense and, if he is going to be on the field, I'd prefer him to be in a position where his lapses of concentration are less costly. I much prefer a Bocanegra/Demerit pairing in the center and think that it results in a better defense for the US. :)
 
I've read the same thing about Beckham's option not applying to NY. At the same time, I don't think MLS thought they'd get to 19 so quickly or be in a position to negotiate the TV deal.
I 100% agree with the unsure they were going to get to 19 so quickly, but they absolutely knew the Fox deal was running out this year.The ESPN deal goes through 2014.
Yes, but I don't think back in 2007 they thought they would be in the position to potentially have such a good/viable TV deal.
I am still not sure I understand this point. The ESPN deal was in place in late 2006 and was signed for 8 years (to coincide with the next two World Cups). This TV deal was signed before Becks was.
 
Gooch played all 90 today in his debut for Twente in a 5-0 win. He played left back of all places :lmao:
It would be great if he fit into a fullback role for the USMNT, I've never been a fan of his play at CB(or at all).
LOL - every one of Gooch's weaknesses would be seriously exposed at LB. And the things he does real well - win balls in the air, outmuscle opponents - would be neutered. I'm sure in the Dutch league he is adequate. He's a good player. But he's just much too stiff to step in on the outside even in a pinch at the international level. I doubt Twente play him there long term.
I think his biggest weaknesses are his slow reaction time and tendency to get caught flat-footed which are already seriously exposed at CB and largely contributed to the first three goals against the US during the World Cup. I think he is a liability in the center of the defense and, if he is going to be on the field, I'd prefer him to be in a position where his lapses of concentration are less costly. I much prefer a Bocanegra/Demerit pairing in the center and think that it results in a better defense for the US. :lmao:
He was coming off of catastrophic injury and unfit at the WC.
 

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