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Checked ESPN to see what else happened- Bolton beat Fulham 1-0. I checked the gamecast and first thing I saw was this:

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Stuart Holden commits a foul on Clint Dempsey resulting on a free kick for Fulham

 
Barca's D hasn't been the same with Puyol out. Just allowed a game tying PK, and ATH is getting many opps.

Struggling, Real Madrid closing the gap in the standings.

1-1 56min

 
The Revs are right on schedule!

Their captain (Sharlrie Joseph) and starting right back (Kevin Alston) were sent home from Orlando for disciplinary reasons.

No word yet on what happened.

 
'bentley said:
<!--quoteo(post=12932352:date=Feb 18 2011, 10:02 PM:name=Christo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Christo @ Feb 18 2011, 10:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12932352"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12932273:date=Feb 18 2011, 09:34 PM:name=Steve Tasker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steve Tasker @ Feb 18 2011, 09:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12932273"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12931614:date=Feb 18 2011, 06:17 PM:name=B Maverick)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (B Maverick @ Feb 18 2011, 06:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12931614"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I agree, not sure what he will do for them. I do hope they are the 20th franchise though.

I need to find a link but the Secret Tournament commercials (nike i think) with him on top of the cage running the show were excellent. All the greats (of that time) playing 3v3, first goal wins.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Still hard to top <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa44_eric-cantona-manu-vs-sunderland-199_news" target="_blank">this goal.</a> Love the celebration, like..."holy ####, did I just do that?"

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THANKS! I needed thatREMATCH

But dont forget the rematch... no cage needed, 1st to 100 wins!

"Who's on fire? Henry's on Fire!"

Cantona saying au revoir to Ruud van Nisterlrooy made me laugh too...

As for the FA cup game, Bebe looked horrible and Obertan dribbles too much. Mostly United looked disjointed and like a lower team standing around watching the ball run. It was ugly. Rooting for Orient to upset Arsenal. Otherwise, the coming schedule will be brutal for United.

Feb 23 2:45 PM ET Marseille v Manchester United Stade Vélodrome Champions League (Round of 16)

Feb 26 10:00 AM ET Wigan Athletic v Manchester United DW Stadium Premier League

Mar 1 2:45 PM ET Chelsea v Manchester United Stamford Bridge Premier League

Mar 6 8:30 AM ET Liverpool v Manchester United Anfield Premier League

Mar 12 10:00 AM ET Manchester United v Leyton Orient/ Arsenal Old Trafford FA Cup (Quarter-finals)

Mar 15 3:45 PM ET Manchester United v Marseille Old Trafford Champions League (Round of 16)

Merseille in CL twice, Chelsea, Liverpool in EPA, Arsenal in FA.... wow. Not too mention a later stretch as follows not knowing the CL and FA cup futures.

Apr 23 10:00 AM ET Manchester United v Everton Old Trafford Premier League

Apr 30 10:00 AM ET Arsenal v Manchester United Emirates Stadium Premier League

May 7 10:00 AM ET Manchester United v Chelsea Old Trafford Premier League

 
'NewlyRetired said:
Here are some highlights from Adu's first game with his new clubhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Yx0UZkan8
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Good to see he's getting minutes somewhere- looked like, aside from congratulating his teammates for scoring, he's playing in an attacking central MF role which is where he's played his best in the past, IMO. Nice back heel to set up the PK and nice little give and go at the end there to set up another shot.Good luck Freddy- please don't #### this up.
 
Most of NYTimes' soccer stuff is AP and Reuters feeds, but their original content is often really interesting. Here's another Cantona interview.... I had meant to see Looking for Eric when it came out- might Netflix it, even though it has zero chance of getting by the censors (ie- wife).

At first, even second glance, Eric Cantona, 44, looks as if he could be minutes away from shedding his stylish street clothes and stepping back onto the soccer field without embarrassing himself. An enigmatic Frenchman, Cantona starred for Manchester United in the 1990s, retired at age 30 and left it all behind for a budding film career. He is back in the game for the first time in 14 years. Cantona has been named the director of soccer operations for the reborn New York Cosmos, a team that really is not a team — yet — but that hopes to become the 20th entry in Major League Soccer, perhaps as soon as the 2013 season. Cantona spoke with Jack Bell of The Times (who, as he took notes using an iPad and wireless keyboard, heard Cantona say that he felt “strange, like I’m talking to the police at the station”) about his days at Old Trafford, his exploits on the silver screen and his expectations with the Cosmos.New York CosmosCantona is the director of soccer operations for the reborn New York Cosmos.Q.Were there aspects of your professional football career that prepared you for your life as an actor?A.I’ve always wanted to act. On the pitch, it’s a kind of acting. First you learn to walk, then you find your spontaneity.Q.You were very theatrical on the field in so many ways. Is it something oh so French?A.Was it theater? Yes. Old Trafford is the Theater of Dream. Sometimes people ask me different questions about players and acting. I started to think about it and there is a lot and found a lot of similarities. It’s not just a game, you play on the set, the pitch. I’ve always wanted to play and see beautiful football, but winning was always very important.Q.Who are your favorite directors?A.[Jean-Luc] Godard is one. Fabulous. Today, Jérôme Bonnell, who is not very well known, even in France. He’s very good. His films are very special. I’ve never worked with him, but admire his films.Q.You were the star, the alter ego in the recent film “Looking for Eric.” It looked like a perfect role for you.A.I wanted to do the movie and [director] Ken Loach was on our list. I met with him and he was very happy with the possibility to work on the same story. If you ask 100 directors you will get 100 different films. But our ideas were very close with Ken Loach. I was very happy with the film. I got to meet all these people and, of course, he was a wonderful director. It was most important to work with great people. There was humility and humanity.Q.What do you think the biggest change in the game has been since you last played for Manchester United?A.Many things have changed, that’s expected. I think that TV is involved more and more. With the sponsors, there’s more and more money. The players are in the middle, and they take their part.I think there is talk of this every time. In my time, people said players earned too much money. But me, when I was a child, I just dreamed of playing, being the best player and playing for the best team. I became very rich through football. I’ve got my memories of great moments with great clubs.Q.What were some of your greatest moments in the game?A.They were all with United. With United, I played my best level, when I was between 26 and 30. I spent my best years at Manchester United with some of the world’s greatest players. [Alex] Ferguson is one of the best managers of all time. I was very lucky. And it was the type of game that United played, yes, winning, but it was something I enjoyed.For me, the greatest moment was when we won the double [the Premier League and F.A. Cup titles in 1995-96] with a new generation of young playersQ.You were among the first wave of players from outside Britain to star in the Premier League. Was it a challenge?A.Well, for example, when I first went to England I spent a week on trial with Sheffield Wednesday. I thought I was there to sign a contract, but after a week on trial with Wednesday they asked me to stay for one more week. I mean, I had already played for France, how can you imagine playing for France and having to stay on trial with Wednesday? In this time, no one knows French players and no one cared. I don’t think that people realize how it was in that time for a foreigner in England.English football at the time thought it didn’t need foreign players. It was a kind of arrogance. The worst thing is to one day realize that maybe you need foreign players to succeed. Now I think there are too many, it’s the opposite. Too many foreign players in the clubs, and I think the clubs should work for the national team. With me and the Cosmos, we work hard with the academies working for the club and for the national team.Q.I’ve seen some stories that said you are staying away from Manchester United until the Glazers are no longer the owners. Is that true?A.All I will say is that I think Ferugson will stay as the manager, after that, there will be more problems. Today, he is like Gandhi on the game side.Q.Are there any entertainers in the game today who have your attention?A.I don’t want to sound like an old man. In every generation, you have players you think are the best players with a strong personality. If you have that strong personality you are an entertainer, but now, with different attitudes. But somebody quiet can be charismatic and can be an entertainer, like [Lionel] Messi.Q.Which players and which teams do you like to watch now?A.I prefer to say Barcelona and Manchester United. As teams, they are entertaining.With Manchester, I prefer to say, to think, to realize that Ferguson is a kind of genius. He had so many different generations of players now. He’s 70 and works with players 18 years old but adapts himself to all generations. This one is especially different. With [Dimitar] Berbatove, he worked hard and waited because he knew he had a great player.Cantona believes the U.S. will win the World Cup within 20 years.Ferguson takes strong personalities and works with them psychologically. It is very important. It worked for me, 100 percent. It was for the team. I accepted everything because he gave me freedom on the pitch. He gave me the No. 7 shirt and it became important to me though I might not have realized its importance in the beginning. I never felt the pressure. He had a kind of confidence in me to give me the No. 7. It was an honor.I think he was surprised by the player I was and became because no one knew what to expect from me. It’s better to surprise. Otherwise it becomes boring.Q.Other than playing in the Beach Soccer World Cup, you have basically been out of the game for the last 14, 15 years. How did you get interested in joining this Cosmos project?A.Around Christmastime, the club called my brother, who works with me, and explained they wanted me to be part of their project. I knew the story of the club. It is very important for me. I didn’t want to go if the idea for the club is different from what it was. I liked the project. I have a strong image of this club, that it was something special in football that was a mixture of everything.I like this idea of player development here and I think there are many, many players now in the U.S. I’m sure that before 20 years the U.S. will win the World Cup because players like Franz Beckenbauer and Pelé came here. Young players started to look after them and became interested in the sport and started to play soccer. I don’t think they get enough credit for the great job for development of the sport they did here. I think the Cosmos helped people realize that football could be an art form.Q.You truly believe the U.S. will win the World Cup within 20 years?A.Yes. I am sure. The U.S. wins the World Cup and the Cosmos will do a great job in the academies and give the national team its best players. We already have good players in the academy, I’ve seen kids 8, 9 years old that are great. There are 18 million kids playing soccer in the U.S.The U.S. played very, very well in the World Cup in South Africa. They are not ready to win a World Cup now, but I think they have improved every time. Now they are quicker and better skilled than in previous years. And yes, I believe they will win the World Cup.Q.You are among a number of players who, like George Best, never got to represent their country in the World Cup. Is that a source of disappointment for you?A.I achieved a lot of things in my career and I cannot think about the disappointments. I prefer to think about the good things and I had a lot. When I started to play, I wanted to win everything, but then you realize you cannot. What is most important is to try and win and play your best game every time. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you don’t give 100 percent. Sometimes you’re lucky. Sometimes not. Luck is important.Q.What does this job with the Cosmos mean to you?A.It’s about creating something. I have my own vision of the game and will try to bring it here and win. Ajax in the ’70s created something. [Johan] Cryuff at Barcelona created something, a new revolution. The Cosmos can create something, too, that’s never been seen. Every 20, 30 years there is a new movement. You have to look to history and take inspiration from things and use them to create your own future. I came here with this kind of idea.It is about the style of coaching and young players. We want to be successful and to do that you need to be physical, technical and the best mentally. To have tactics that nobody can understand. It took so many years for people to understand Cruyff at Barcelona because the first season he got there he didn’t use an attacking player up front. There were people on the wings up front and up until then he was the only one in history to do that.He played to his style and made the other teams adapt. It means you control the game.Q.You are coming here with those ideas in mind, but how much do you know about M.L.S. and the way it works? And does any lack of knowledge worry you? Of course, this is all assuming that the Cosmos end up with a team in the league.A.Yes, I don’t know M.L.S. very well, but I have Cobi [Jones] with the Cosmos and he’s a resource. I want to learn more about the league and will work very hard, watching games, tapes. And I think I will know very well and quickly. I realize I need to learn things.
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'El Floppo said:
Most of NYTimes' soccer stuff is AP and Reuters feeds, but their original content is often really interesting. Here's another Cantona interview.... I had meant to see Looking for Eric when it came out- might Netflix it, even though it has zero chance of getting by the censors (ie- wife).

Q.You are coming here with those ideas in mind, but how much do you know about M.L.S. and the way it works? And does any lack of knowledge worry you? Of course, this is all assuming that the Cosmos end up with a team in the league.A.Yes, I don’t know M.L.S. very well, but I have Cobi [Jones] with the Cosmos and he’s a resource. I want to learn more about the league and will work very hard, watching games, tapes. And I think I will know very well and quickly. I realize I need to learn things.
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I still don't know how to take this endeavor yet. I want it to be real but I can't get over the nagging feeling that this is all smoke and mirrors. I want to be excited because I think this would be awesome for the league and for soccer in general in the US but until the team are attached to anyone with the semblance of real money, I don't want to get my hopes up. Even if a stadium plan does materialize, with out real owners, this can't go forward.
 
'NewlyRetired said:
This should round out the final pieces in the MLS national TV schedule======================================================NEW YORK – Major League Soccer and FOX Soccer announced on Friday that they have extended the network’s national broadcast rights agreement for one year.The premier soccer-only channel in North America will broadcast up to 31 regular-season games, plus three exclusive MLS Cup Playoff matches including a Conference Final – all in high definition. The package includes 15 matches on Saturday nights and 14 on Friday nights; 20 of those 31 broadcast windows are exclusive to FOX Soccer.“FOX Soccer has been a tremendous partner for MLS for many years and we are very happy that we have been able to extend the relationship,” said MLS President Mark Abbott. “Through both its news coverage and its extensive schedule of MLS games, Fox Soccer allows MLS fans across the country to follow their club as well as their rivals.”FOX Soccer schedule this season begins with the MLS Cup Champion Colorado Rapids hosting the Portland Timbers in the expansion club’s inaugural MLS match as part of First Kick presented by ****’s Sporting Goods. Other highlights of the FOX Soccer lineup include five games between regional rivals, a clash of the two winningest teams in MLS history (LA Galaxy vs. D.C. United, June 3), and late season conference matchups that are bound to have playoff implications and high tension.“We’re extremely pleased to be home to MLS – the gold standard for soccer in the US - for our ninth straight season,” said FOX Soccer Executive Vice President and General Manager David Nathanson. “FOX Soccer is committed to providing soccer fans in America the best coverage possible, and this extension helps us keep that commitment.”FOX Soccer has been a national broadcast partner of MLS since 2003.Complete FOX Soccer scheduleDate Time (ET) Match (home team listed first)Sat, March 19 9:00 pm Colorado Rapids vs. Portland TimbersFri, March 25 * 10:00 pm Seattle Sounders FC vs. Houston DynamoFri, April 1 * 7:30 pm Columbus Crew vs. FC DallasFri, April 8 * 9:00 pm FC Dallas vs. Colorado RapidsSat, April 16 7:00 pm Toronto FC vs. D.C. UnitedFri, April 22 * 9:30 pm Colorado Rapids vs. Seattle Sounders FCSat, April 23 11:00 pm LA Galaxy vs. Portland TimbersFri, April 29 * 8:30 pm Houston Dynamo vs. D.C. UnitedFri, May 6 * 10:30 pm Portland Timbers vs. Philadelphia UnionSat, May 14 9:00 pm Real Salt Lake vs. Houston DynamoFri, June 3 * 11:00 pm LA Galaxy vs. D.C. UnitedFri, June 10 * 8:30 pm New York Red Bulls vs. New England RevolutionSat, June 11 10:00 pm Seattle Sounders FC vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FCFri, June 17 * 8:30 pm Sporting Kansas City vs. San Jose EarthquakesSat, June 25 11:00 pm San Jose Earthquakes vs. LA GalaxySat, July 2 7:00 pm D.C. United vs. Philadelphia UnionSat, July 9 10:30 pm LA Galaxy vs. Chicago FireSat, July 16 4:00 pm Seattle Sounders FC vs. Colorado RapidsFri, July 29 * 7:30 pm Philadelphia Union vs. Colorado RapidsSat, July 30 7:30 pm Vancouver Whitecaps FC vs. LA GalaxyFri, Aug 5 * 9:30 pm Colorado Rapids vs. Columbus CrewSat, Aug 13 8:30 pm Sporting Kansas City vs. LA GalaxySat, Aug 20 10:00 pm Portland Timbers vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FCSat, Aug 27 10:30 pm Chivas USA vs. Real Salt LakeFri, Sept 9 * 11:00 pm LA Galaxy vs. Colorado RapidsFri, Sept 16 * 11:00 pm Portland Timbers vs. New England RevolutionFri, Sept 23 * 8:30 pm Sporting Kansas City vs. Philadelphia UnionSat, Oct 1 * 7:30 pm Toronto FC vs. New York Red BullsSat, Oct 15 10:30 pm Seattle Sounders FC vs. San Jose Earthquakes* indicates date or time change from schedule as originally announced
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This 1 year deal is reportedly worth $6.25M. Also included in the deal is another $1.75M to cover league advertising possibly in the form of a weekly highlight show on FSC.
 
'NewlyRetired said:
'El Floppo said:
Most of NYTimes' soccer stuff is AP and Reuters feeds, but their original content is often really interesting. Here's another Cantona interview.... I had meant to see Looking for Eric when it came out- might Netflix it, even though it has zero chance of getting by the censors (ie- wife).

Q.You are coming here with those ideas in mind, but how much do you know about M.L.S. and the way it works? And does any lack of knowledge worry you? Of course, this is all assuming that the Cosmos end up with a team in the league.A.Yes, I don’t know M.L.S. very well, but I have Cobi [Jones] with the Cosmos and he’s a resource. I want to learn more about the league and will work very hard, watching games, tapes. And I think I will know very well and quickly. I realize I need to learn things.
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I still don't know how to take this endeavor yet. I want it to be real but I can't get over the nagging feeling that this is all smoke and mirrors. I want to be excited because I think this would be awesome for the league and for soccer in general in the US but until the team are attached to anyone with the semblance of real money, I don't want to get my hopes up. Even if a stadium plan does materialize, with out real owners, this can't go forward.
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Thanks Floppo, great read.NewlyRetired, I am with you. I am hoping this is real and they are the 20th side in the MLS. Lets hope!
 
Carlos "El Pescadito" Ruiz joins Philly!

Good signing for them, IMO- that's a guy who knows how to score and win... can only help some of those younger players. That said, I hate him.

 
'B Maverick said:
'The Z Machine said:
'El Floppo said:
Inter vs Real Madrid tomorrow... :popcorn:
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No entiendo.
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tomorrow? Lyon 1-1 Real Madrid, late equalizer by Lyon, but Madrid in good shape with a tie and an away goal.Good day for Chelsea :hot: win 2-0 away in leg 1 of their CL leg and Tottenham loses 3-1 in the EPL staying 2 points up after playing an extra game.TOMORROW, UNITED AT MERSEILLE! no Giggs or Rio so it will be tough. :popcorn:
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:doh:tomorrow= Inter v BM, not RM.forza nerazzurri!
 
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/union-announce-signing-ex-mls-mvp-ruiz

Interesting pick up for Phily. Selfishly, I hope he does not take much time from Mwanga

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"El Pescadito" is back.

The Philadelphia Union took a major step to improving an offense that was one of the worst in the league last season by announcing on Tuesday that they have signed former MLS MVP and two-time Golden Boot winner Carlos Ruiz on a free transfer from Greek club Aris FC.

The polarizing 31-year-old Guatemalan forward returns to MLS after two years abroad, in which he also spent time with Olimpia of Paraguay and Puebla of Mexico’s Primera División.

Ruiz is perhaps best known for his groundbreaking 2002 season, his first in MLS, in which he scored 24 goals for the LA Galaxy and won the MVP and Golden Boot awards en route to helping LA to their first MLS Cup title. Ruiz scored eight goals during that postseason, still a record in the MLS Cup Playoffs.

 
The Concacaf Champions League Quarter Finals started tonight.

RSL and Columbus are matched up in one of the quarter finals, and the first of the home and home ended in an ugly 0-0 draw with 3 players ejected.

This is the schedule for the quarter finals:

Quarterfinals

Time Home Away Result TV

February 22

9:00 PM Columbus Crew (USA) Real Salt Lake (USA) 0-0 FSC, Galavision

11:00 PM Cruz Azul (MEX) Santos (MEX) - TeleFutura

February 23

9:00 PM Toluca (MEX) Monterrey (MEX) - TeleFutura

February 24

9:00 PM Saprissa (CRC) Olimpia (HON) - Galavision

March 1

9:00 PM Santos (MEX) Cruz Azul (MEX) - TeleFutura

11:00 PM Real Salt Lake (USA) Columbus Crew (USA) - FSC, Galavision

March 2

9:00 PM Toluca (MEX) Monterrey (MEX) - TeleFutura

March 3

9:00 PM Olimpia (HON) Saprissa (CRC) - Galavision

 
Since I doubt anybody recorded this... I caught a few minutes of it while at a bar (look at me! I was at a bar!) last night- the stadium did look absolutely empty and freezing.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Real Salt Lake and Columbus drew 0-0 Tuesday in the first leg of the two-game, aggregate-goal CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinal.The match drew about a thousand fans to Crew Stadium in 25 degree weather.Columbus had four shots on goal and RSL didn't have any. But poor finishing ruined the Crew's chances.The Crew ended the match with 10 players and RSL nine after Columbus forward Emilio Renteria and Real Salt Lake defender Nat Borchers exchanged elbows in the 72nd minute.Those ejections followed the second yellow to Tony Beltran on the 53rd minute.The two teams will meet in the return leg March 1 at Rio Tinto Stadium in Sandy, Utah.
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'El Floppo said:
Since I doubt anybody recorded this...

I caught a few minutes of it while at a bar (look at me! I was at a bar!) last night- the stadium did look absolutely empty and freezing.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Real Salt Lake and Columbus drew 0-0 Tuesday in the first leg of the two-game, aggregate-goal CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinal.

The match drew about a thousand fans to Crew Stadium in 25 degree weather.

Columbus had four shots on goal and RSL didn't have any. But poor finishing ruined the Crew's chances.

The Crew ended the match with 10 players and RSL nine after Columbus forward Emilio Renteria and Real Salt Lake defender Nat Borchers exchanged elbows in the 72nd minute.

Those ejections followed the second yellow to Tony Beltran on the 53rd minute.

The two teams will meet in the return leg March 1 at Rio Tinto Stadium in Sandy, Utah.
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Looks to me that a few players decided the dressing room was warmer.
 
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