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Jones did not get credit for the defected goal. Official scoring has it as an own goal. I tend to disagree with this in general. Any shot that is on net and gets deflected should still be an offensive goal. Own goals should be limited to plays where the ball could never have gone in the net even with an empty goal unless the defender touched it.
:goodposting: Totally agree. Shot on frame should count for the shooter. Shot off frame, or crossed in, or anything'd in that takes a deflection and goes in counts as an own goal. Hell- I'm even open to giving the shooter of an off-frame shot the goal.IIRC, offensively players also get credit for the goals off of deflections- ie: I take a shot and it hits my team-mate Z in the butt and goes in. As I understand it, Z gets the goal... although somebody tell me if I'm wrong here. If not, that's something I'd like changed as well.
Do we have any refs here in our little FFA soccer family?
 
The British Olympic Association announced that they have reached and agreement with all 4 home nations to put out a combined Great Britain team in the Olympics. And right on cue, the Scottish and Welch FA's put out an immediate statement basically saying that the British Olympic Association is full of it.
Welsh
I never get that correct :(
Just remember this--they don't like grape jelly in Wales.
 
Scots and Welsh angered over Team GB 'deal'LONDON - Scotland and Wales reacted with anger and surprise on Tuesday after the British Olympic Association trumpeted a 'historic agreement' to end a 52-year absence and enter British football teams in next year's London Games.The BOA made what it called a 'landmark' announcement a day after Scottish FA chief executive Stewart Regan stated publicly Scotland's continuing opposition to being involved with any British team.A spokesman for the Welsh FA, who have also been against their players joining a British team, said the BOA statement appeared to be "just a rehashing of old news and bits and pieces" and came 'completely out of the blue"."There is no new agreement signed or any deals reached," Ceri Stennett told Reuters. "The status quo remains the same."The BOA said the men's and women's sides would be selected and managed by the English FA."Consistent with requirements set out in the Olympic Charter, the selection criteria will be entirely non-discriminatory," it added."Players from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and other territories which fall under the BOA's remit as an NOC, who meet the approved competitive standard will be eligible for consideration and selection."The BOA said the FA had consulted with the Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland associations to develop the selection criteria and timeline."It has been a long, six-year journey to get to this point, with very real considerations from the Home Nations that first had to be recognised, respected and resolved," said BOA chief executive Andy Hunt."We absolutely respect the participation of the Home Nations as individual nations at all other football events," he added."I want to express my appreciation to all four Football Associations for their recognition of just how meaningful it will be for Team GB to compete in football in London 2012."A 'long list' of potential players will be drawn up later this year, with those included asked to confirm their interest and availability to compete. The announcement of both squads will be made next summer.The BOA added that all four nations had received a written assurance from FIFA that participation in the Games would not compromise their ability to enter their own national teams for other FIFA-sanctioned tournaments.The debate over the participation of players from Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in a British team has simmered since the Games were awarded to London in 2005.The three associations fear they will lose their independent status within FIFA if they allow their players to take part, despite their membership being enshrined in FIFA's statutes.Regan made clear in an interview on the SFA website on Monday that Scotland's position had not changed."We are opposed to taking part in Team GB," he said."We need to protect our identity and have no interest in taking part."I guess Andy [Hunt] is under a great deal of pressure from the London Olympic Games Organising Committee and the IOC to get tickets on sale for the football events," added Regan.The second round of British ticket sales for London 2012 starts on Friday, with 1.7 million of the remaining 2.3 million tickets on offer being for the men's and women's football tournaments.Some of those matches will be held in Cardiff and Glasgow, where sales have reportedly been slow given the likely absence of home-grown players.Britain last competed in the men's tournament in Rome in 1960 and won gold medals in 1900, 1908 and 1912. The women have never before taken part in a Games.
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
 
Jones did not get credit for the defected goal. Official scoring has it as an own goal. I tend to disagree with this in general. Any shot that is on net and gets deflected should still be an offensive goal. Own goals should be limited to plays where the ball could never have gone in the net even with an empty goal unless the defender touched it.
I tend to agree with that. Unless they're going to start calling shots that GKs get their hands on but cannot keep out of the net own goals as well.
 
The British Olympic Association announced that they have reached and agreement with all 4 home nations to put out a combined Great Britain team in the Olympics. And right on cue, the Scottish and Welch FA's put out an immediate statement basically saying that the British Olympic Association is full of it.
Welsh
Stotcheta: dammit- Scotch.
They're Scots, laddie. Scotch is a drink.
:rolleyes:
 
Scots and Welsh angered over Team GB 'deal'

LONDON - Scotland and Wales reacted with anger and surprise on Tuesday after the British Olympic Association trumpeted a 'historic agreement' to end a 52-year absence and enter British football teams in next year's London Games.

The BOA made what it called a 'landmark' announcement a day after Scottish FA chief executive Stewart Regan stated publicly Scotland's continuing opposition to being involved with any British team.

A spokesman for the Welsh FA, who have also been against their players joining a British team, said the BOA statement appeared to be "just a rehashing of old news and bits and pieces" and came 'completely out of the blue".

"There is no new agreement signed or any deals reached," Ceri Stennett told Reuters. "The status quo remains the same."

The BOA said the men's and women's sides would be selected and managed by the English FA.

"Consistent with requirements set out in the Olympic Charter, the selection criteria will be entirely non-discriminatory," it added.

"Players from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and other territories which fall under the BOA's remit as an NOC, who meet the approved competitive standard will be eligible for consideration and selection."

The BOA said the FA had consulted with the Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland associations to develop the selection criteria and timeline.

"It has been a long, six-year journey to get to this point, with very real considerations from the Home Nations that first had to be recognised, respected and resolved," said BOA chief executive Andy Hunt.

"We absolutely respect the participation of the Home Nations as individual nations at all other football events," he added.

"I want to express my appreciation to all four Football Associations for their recognition of just how meaningful it will be for Team GB to compete in football in London 2012."

A 'long list' of potential players will be drawn up later this year, with those included asked to confirm their interest and availability to compete. The announcement of both squads will be made next summer.

The BOA added that all four nations had received a written assurance from FIFA that participation in the Games would not compromise their ability to enter their own national teams for other FIFA-sanctioned tournaments.

The debate over the participation of players from Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in a British team has simmered since the Games were awarded to London in 2005.

The three associations fear they will lose their independent status within FIFA if they allow their players to take part, despite their membership being enshrined in FIFA's statutes.

Regan made clear in an interview on the SFA website on Monday that Scotland's position had not changed.

"We are opposed to taking part in Team GB," he said.

"We need to protect our identity and have no interest in taking part.

"I guess Andy [Hunt] is under a great deal of pressure from the London Olympic Games Organising Committee and the IOC to get tickets on sale for the football events," added Regan.

The second round of British ticket sales for London 2012 starts on Friday, with 1.7 million of the remaining 2.3 million tickets on offer being for the men's and women's football tournaments.

Some of those matches will be held in Cardiff and Glasgow, where sales have reportedly been slow given the likely absence of home-grown players.

Britain last competed in the men's tournament in Rome in 1960 and won gold medals in 1900, 1908 and 1912. The women have never before taken part in a Games.
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
See bolded text. They obviously fear that FIFA will have issues.
 
Scots and Welsh angered over Team GB 'deal'

LONDON - Scotland and Wales reacted with anger and surprise on Tuesday after the British Olympic Association trumpeted a 'historic agreement' to end a 52-year absence and enter British football teams in next year's London Games.

The BOA made what it called a 'landmark' announcement a day after Scottish FA chief executive Stewart Regan stated publicly Scotland's continuing opposition to being involved with any British team.

A spokesman for the Welsh FA, who have also been against their players joining a British team, said the BOA statement appeared to be "just a rehashing of old news and bits and pieces" and came 'completely out of the blue".

"There is no new agreement signed or any deals reached," Ceri Stennett told Reuters. "The status quo remains the same."

The BOA said the men's and women's sides would be selected and managed by the English FA.

"Consistent with requirements set out in the Olympic Charter, the selection criteria will be entirely non-discriminatory," it added.

"Players from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and other territories which fall under the BOA's remit as an NOC, who meet the approved competitive standard will be eligible for consideration and selection."

The BOA said the FA had consulted with the Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland associations to develop the selection criteria and timeline.

"It has been a long, six-year journey to get to this point, with very real considerations from the Home Nations that first had to be recognised, respected and resolved," said BOA chief executive Andy Hunt.

"We absolutely respect the participation of the Home Nations as individual nations at all other football events," he added.

"I want to express my appreciation to all four Football Associations for their recognition of just how meaningful it will be for Team GB to compete in football in London 2012."

A 'long list' of potential players will be drawn up later this year, with those included asked to confirm their interest and availability to compete. The announcement of both squads will be made next summer.

The BOA added that all four nations had received a written assurance from FIFA that participation in the Games would not compromise their ability to enter their own national teams for other FIFA-sanctioned tournaments.

The debate over the participation of players from Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in a British team has simmered since the Games were awarded to London in 2005.

The three associations fear they will lose their independent status within FIFA if they allow their players to take part, despite their membership being enshrined in FIFA's statutes.

Regan made clear in an interview on the SFA website on Monday that Scotland's position had not changed.

"We are opposed to taking part in Team GB," he said.

"We need to protect our identity and have no interest in taking part.

"I guess Andy [Hunt] is under a great deal of pressure from the London Olympic Games Organising Committee and the IOC to get tickets on sale for the football events," added Regan.

The second round of British ticket sales for London 2012 starts on Friday, with 1.7 million of the remaining 2.3 million tickets on offer being for the men's and women's football tournaments.

Some of those matches will be held in Cardiff and Glasgow, where sales have reportedly been slow given the likely absence of home-grown players.

Britain last competed in the men's tournament in Rome in 1960 and won gold medals in 1900, 1908 and 1912. The women have never before taken part in a Games.
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
See bolded text. They obviously fear that FIFA will have issues.
Just two paragraphs above that:
The BOA added that all four nations had received a written assurance from FIFA that participation in the Games would not compromise their ability to enter their own national teams for other FIFA-sanctioned tournaments.
 
Scots and Welsh angered over Team GB 'deal'

LONDON - Scotland and Wales reacted with anger and surprise on Tuesday after the British Olympic Association trumpeted a 'historic agreement' to end a 52-year absence and enter British football teams in next year's London Games.

The BOA made what it called a 'landmark' announcement a day after Scottish FA chief executive Stewart Regan stated publicly Scotland's continuing opposition to being involved with any British team.

A spokesman for the Welsh FA, who have also been against their players joining a British team, said the BOA statement appeared to be "just a rehashing of old news and bits and pieces" and came 'completely out of the blue".

"There is no new agreement signed or any deals reached," Ceri Stennett told Reuters. "The status quo remains the same."

The BOA said the men's and women's sides would be selected and managed by the English FA.

"Consistent with requirements set out in the Olympic Charter, the selection criteria will be entirely non-discriminatory," it added.

"Players from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and other territories which fall under the BOA's remit as an NOC, who meet the approved competitive standard will be eligible for consideration and selection."

The BOA said the FA had consulted with the Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland associations to develop the selection criteria and timeline.

"It has been a long, six-year journey to get to this point, with very real considerations from the Home Nations that first had to be recognised, respected and resolved," said BOA chief executive Andy Hunt.

"We absolutely respect the participation of the Home Nations as individual nations at all other football events," he added.

"I want to express my appreciation to all four Football Associations for their recognition of just how meaningful it will be for Team GB to compete in football in London 2012."

A 'long list' of potential players will be drawn up later this year, with those included asked to confirm their interest and availability to compete. The announcement of both squads will be made next summer.

The BOA added that all four nations had received a written assurance from FIFA that participation in the Games would not compromise their ability to enter their own national teams for other FIFA-sanctioned tournaments.

The debate over the participation of players from Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in a British team has simmered since the Games were awarded to London in 2005.

The three associations fear they will lose their independent status within FIFA if they allow their players to take part, despite their membership being enshrined in FIFA's statutes.

Regan made clear in an interview on the SFA website on Monday that Scotland's position had not changed.

"We are opposed to taking part in Team GB," he said.

"We need to protect our identity and have no interest in taking part.

"I guess Andy [Hunt] is under a great deal of pressure from the London Olympic Games Organising Committee and the IOC to get tickets on sale for the football events," added Regan.

The second round of British ticket sales for London 2012 starts on Friday, with 1.7 million of the remaining 2.3 million tickets on offer being for the men's and women's football tournaments.

Some of those matches will be held in Cardiff and Glasgow, where sales have reportedly been slow given the likely absence of home-grown players.

Britain last competed in the men's tournament in Rome in 1960 and won gold medals in 1900, 1908 and 1912. The women have never before taken part in a Games.
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
See bolded text. They obviously fear that FIFA will have issues.
Just two paragraphs above that:
The BOA added that all four nations had received a written assurance from FIFA that participation in the Games would not compromise their ability to enter their own national teams for other FIFA-sanctioned tournaments.
The BOA also said they had a deal with all 4 nations when that turned out to be utterly false. I can see their trepidation to be honest.
 
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
The Scottish and English (not sure about Welsh and N. Irish) FAs were started before FIFA, and those teams were competing against each other in the first int'l matchups. Thus, those "sub-national" FAs are in effect grandfathered into FIFA. The same cannot be said for the Catalan FA, nor the Basque FA.Besides, the Scottish and English FAs predate the modern Olympics as well. The IOC can stuff it.
 
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
The Scottish and English (not sure about Welsh and N. Irish) FAs were started before FIFA, and those teams were competing against each other in the first int'l matchups. Thus, those "sub-national" FAs are in effect grandfathered into FIFA. The same cannot be said for the Catalan FA, nor the Basque FA.Besides, the Scottish and English FAs predate the modern Olympics as well. The IOC can stuff it.
I still don't see why that's a reason not to compete in the Olympics as GB.
 
'NewlyRetired said:
Ives Galarcep (@SoccerByIves)6/21/11 6:32 PMMichael Bradley will not be returning to Aston Villa, his agent Ron Waxman just confirmed.
nice, I could see him fitting in the Bundesliga.
 
'Christo said:
'The Z Machine said:
'Christo said:
I don't understand their position. If England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland compete together under the British flag for other Olympic events, why the refusal to do the same for soccer as long as FIFA allows them to keep competing individually in other tournaments? They manage to get together (and add Ireland to the mix) in rugby when they compete as the British & Irish Lions. What's so sacred about their soccer teams?
The Scottish and English (not sure about Welsh and N. Irish) FAs were started before FIFA, and those teams were competing against each other in the first int'l matchups. Thus, those "sub-national" FAs are in effect grandfathered into FIFA. The same cannot be said for the Catalan FA, nor the Basque FA.Besides, the Scottish and English FAs predate the modern Olympics as well. The IOC can stuff it.
I still don't see why that's a reason not to compete in the Olympics as GB.
Sure, they have a memo from FIFA saying that a representative GB team wouldn't effect the home nations, but this relies a) on trusting Sepp Blatter to not go back on his word (and remember, the Scottish and Welsh FA's both called for his election to be postponed along with the FA) and b) any future FIFA chief to also agree with Blatter's position. Additionally, there is a fair amount of rancor amongst FIFA members generally about the privileged position of the home associations and their disproportional influence in the game. For example it is not actually FIFA that is responsible for the laws of the game but actually the International Football Association Board which was founded in 1886 by the home associations and it was actually they who invited FIFA to join in 1913, not the other way round. This means that the home associations are directly grandfathered in to deciding on the future of the game (each home FA gets one vote and FIFA gets four with a majority of six votes required to pass any changes) and understandably not everyone likes that. Anything that can threaten this position is a bad thing as far as the SFA, FAW and IFA are concerned.As for the rugby union comparison with the Lions that's moot really, as rugby has a long tradition of the Lions going back over a hundred years and football essentially doesn't. Plus rugby union has only 20-30 or so teams that compete internationally and of those only 10 or so to a competitive standard, so merging three teams into one would be pretty silly. Also, Ireland competes as a whole in rugby union, so that would cause complications if you wanted to create a UK team.The GB team in the Olympics really has no upside for the home associations - the ticket and broadcasting revenue will go to the BOA, not the FAs so they wouldn't even make any money off it - and it would be a one off considering a GB team could never qualify for future Olympic competitions (the European Olympic qualifiers are the UEFA U21 Championships, in which the home nations obviously compete separately) so it's not like the team could build upon it's participation. If there's no upside then the potential of any downside, however remote, means it's really not worth it for them.Plus you have to consider that these guys at the SFA, FAW and IFA would be out of a job if there was a ever a merged GB/UK team, so that's a pretty strong incentive. ;)
 
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'NewlyRetired said:
Ives Galarcep (@SoccerByIves)6/21/11 6:32 PMMichael Bradley will not be returning to Aston Villa, his agent Ron Waxman just confirmed.
nice, I could see him fitting in the Bundesliga.
He does not seem to want to go back. MB stated that they hope to find another loan deal first. I think he knows it will not be a good situation. Remember that when he left last winter for Villa, his team was in serious relegation problems. After he left, team fired coach, and new coach steered them safely to staying up. New coach will have no loyalty to him I bet. He is resigned to the fact though that if he does not find a new loan, he will play out the year at Gladbach. From that talk it sounds like he must be in his last year of his contract.
 
Fun day!

US U17 game 2. Any points from this game should see the team advance. A win guarantees advancement. Hopefully they won't come into this game too cocky (team their playing got killed by New Zealand in the first game)

And then the US semi final game. Probably the first game all tournament I have had a very good feeling about for the US. The key as in every game is unlocking the bunker.

If these games go well I will probably watch the Mexican Honduras game. I heard they were expecting a couple of thousand Mexican fans down in Houston ;)

Oh and the US Mexico rivalry is doing well south of the border. The US U17's were roundly booed at every chance in the first game by the Mexican audience. The U17 Mexican team is the only team to be 2-0 after two games in groups A and B. 4 teams, including the US have a chance to do this from Groups C and D today.

 
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Saw this perspective lineup from Ives (his choice not anything announced from Bradley). Assuming they stay 4-5-1, I would like this I think.

Howard

Cher Goodson Boca Eric

Jones Bradley

Bedoya Dempsey Donovan

Juan

 
Saw this perspective lineup from Ives (his choice not anything announced from Bradley). Assuming they stay 4-5-1, I would like this I think. HowardCher Goodson Boca EricJones BradleyBedoya Dempsey DonovanJuan
I'd like it more with Altidore's current form, but this will do.
 
Madrid getting Ganso as well? Or is he leaving santos for some place else.

Bought both of them in fifa 10 last year after year 4 of my franchise mode. Both were awesome. :thumbup:

 
Barca supposedly going after David Luiz. If they land him and Sanchez, and sell Bojan, Jeffren and Milito, I think that would be about it. Given that bringing Cesc in would probably force Alcantara to look elsewhere, I think Barca can probably do without him.

Good video on ESPN's page today about La Masia.

 
Barca supposedly going after David Luiz. If they land him and Sanchez, and sell Bojan, Jeffren and Milito, I think that would be about it. Given that bringing Cesc in would probably force Alcantara to look elsewhere, I think Barca can probably do without him.Good video on ESPN's page today about La Masia.
There is zero chance Chelsea sells David Luiz to Barca.
 
Jones did not get credit for the defected goal. Official scoring has it as an own goal. I tend to disagree with this in general. Any shot that is on net and gets deflected should still be an offensive goal. Own goals should be limited to plays where the ball could never have gone in the net even with an empty goal unless the defender touched it.
:goodposting: Totally agree. Shot on frame should count for the shooter. Shot off frame, or crossed in, or anything'd in that takes a deflection and goes in counts as an own goal. Hell- I'm even open to giving the shooter of an off-frame shot the goal.IIRC, offensively players also get credit for the goals off of deflections- ie: I take a shot and it hits my team-mate Z in the butt and goes in. As I understand it, Z gets the goal... although somebody tell me if I'm wrong here. If not, that's something I'd like changed as well.
Do we have any refs here in our little FFA soccer family?
Yes, I am a soccer referee. We do not give credit for who scored the goal. At this level there is an official ruling on the who the goal scorer is.
 
Barca supposedly going after David Luiz. If they land him and Sanchez, and sell Bojan, Jeffren and Milito, I think that would be about it. Given that bringing Cesc in would probably force Alcantara to look elsewhere, I think Barca can probably do without him.Good video on ESPN's page today about La Masia.
There is zero chance Chelsea sells David Luiz to Barca.
:goodposting: Just some dumb rumors out there.
 
Jones did not get credit for the defected goal. Official scoring has it as an own goal. I tend to disagree with this in general. Any shot that is on net and gets deflected should still be an offensive goal. Own goals should be limited to plays where the ball could never have gone in the net even with an empty goal unless the defender touched it.
:goodposting: Totally agree. Shot on frame should count for the shooter. Shot off frame, or crossed in, or anything'd in that takes a deflection and goes in counts as an own goal. Hell- I'm even open to giving the shooter of an off-frame shot the goal.IIRC, offensively players also get credit for the goals off of deflections- ie: I take a shot and it hits my team-mate Z in the butt and goes in. As I understand it, Z gets the goal... although somebody tell me if I'm wrong here. If not, that's something I'd like changed as well.
Do we have any refs here in our little FFA soccer family?
Yes, I am a soccer referee. We do not give credit for who scored the goal. At this level there is an official ruling on the who the goal scorer is.
Oh ok that makes sense. I wonder what the rules are for determining an own goal.
 
I'm pretty bummed that the kick-off for the game is 4:00 Pacific. I'll have to bounce from work early and speed home to catch it as I have a meeting from 3:00 that is supposed to go till 4:00, but often runs over. I'll try my damnedest to keep my mouth shut and move the meeting along with snarky comments. I only have a week and half left here, so it can't hurt...

 
BTW, it looks like Juve is in the lead for signing el Kun. They think they'll be able to pull it off for 35m€, but I don't see it happening for much under his release clause of 45m€. I'm not a big fan of Juve in general, but they seem to be trying to sign some big names this summer with Lass Diarra also in their sights.

 
Jones did not get credit for the defected goal. Official scoring has it as an own goal. I tend to disagree with this in general. Any shot that is on net and gets deflected should still be an offensive goal. Own goals should be limited to plays where the ball could never have gone in the net even with an empty goal unless the defender touched it.
:goodposting: Totally agree. Shot on frame should count for the shooter. Shot off frame, or crossed in, or anything'd in that takes a deflection and goes in counts as an own goal. Hell- I'm even open to giving the shooter of an off-frame shot the goal.IIRC, offensively players also get credit for the goals off of deflections- ie: I take a shot and it hits my team-mate Z in the butt and goes in. As I understand it, Z gets the goal... although somebody tell me if I'm wrong here. If not, that's something I'd like changed as well.
Do we have any refs here in our little FFA soccer family?
Yes, I am a soccer referee. We do not give credit for who scored the goal. At this level there is an official ruling on the who the goal scorer is.
Oh ok that makes sense. I wonder what the rules are for determining an own goal.
The goal has to be attributed to somebody so if no offensive player gets it then it becomes an own goal by default (I guess that's pretty obvious). The worst is when someone takes a shot that goes off a post and hits the diving keeper in the head or something. That counts as an own goal for the keeper, which is a pretty crappy result for everybody.In the EPL they seem to go with the idea that if the original shot was on target then any deflection on the way is moot. I imagine there are exceptions if something "odd" happens, but when you play fantasy style games you kind of pay attention to these things. Apparently FIFA is more stringent.
 
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U17 game has kicked off. US is starting most if not all the players who started against CR. Strange feeling at the game. The last game was played in front of a healthy 24kish crowd. At the start of this game there may be 200 at most in stadium at start of game.

 
I'm pretty bummed that the kick-off for the game is 4:00 Pacific. I'll have to bounce from work early and speed home to catch it as I have a meeting from 3:00 that is supposed to go till 4:00, but often runs over. I'll try my damnedest to keep my mouth shut and move the meeting along with snarky comments. I only have a week and half left here, so it can't hurt...
Did you forget to record the game?
 
This is likely due to the type of players Wilmer picked but there is so much more dribbling on this team than on previous U17 teams. For good or bad these kids don't hesitate to take on players.

 
Well so much for my hope that the US would not take them lightly. Another bad give away should have made it 2-0. Only a questionable offside took the score off the board.

 
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I'm pretty bummed that the kick-off for the game is 4:00 Pacific. I'll have to bounce from work early and speed home to catch it as I have a meeting from 3:00 that is supposed to go till 4:00, but often runs over. I'll try my damnedest to keep my mouth shut and move the meeting along with snarky comments. I only have a week and half left here, so it can't hurt...
I'll be home early to watch it also. :thumbup:Suck.it.tasker.
 
I'm pretty bummed that the kick-off for the game is 4:00 Pacific. I'll have to bounce from work early and speed home to catch it as I have a meeting from 3:00 that is supposed to go till 4:00, but often runs over. I'll try my damnedest to keep my mouth shut and move the meeting along with snarky comments. I only have a week and half left here, so it can't hurt...
Did you forget to record the game?
I do not have the means to record, nor do i like to do so. I prefer to watch games live.
 
I'm pretty bummed that the kick-off for the game is 4:00 Pacific. I'll have to bounce from work early and speed home to catch it as I have a meeting from 3:00 that is supposed to go till 4:00, but often runs over. I'll try my damnedest to keep my mouth shut and move the meeting along with snarky comments. I only have a week and half left here, so it can't hurt...
Did you forget to record the game?
I do not have the means to record, nor do i like to do so. I prefer to watch games live.
I could not live with out time shifting. I would miss so much.
 
Ok Koroma may be my favorite player ever :)

He was on for 10 seconds before scoring a great goal against CR. He just scored again very early in second half to tie the game at 1-1.

Might want to think about starting the lad :)

 
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