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Since I teach in what the locals call Soccertown USA, I guess I should pick a team to follow. Really like Nessi, but isn't picking Barcelona too easy? I do like Neymar and he's set to join the team in 2 years, so I might be leaning towards them. But I love rooting for the underdog. Which is a good team to follow? Man U, Chelsea, Read Madrid, Arsenal. We have an awesome soccer stadium here 2 minutes away (Red Bulls) in which I just got tickets for 5 games. Trying to get into this awesome sport. TIA.
First off welcome! This is arguably the friendliest and least snarky thread on FFA so jump right in with as many questions and comments as you have!From your first statement am I right in thinking you work in or near Kearny NJ?Lots to consider with your question. Everyone goes through this same issue when trying to pick out a team.I see nothing wrong with "glory hunting" as some call it when choosing a team. If you are new to the sport, I see nothing wrong with picking a team you enjoy watching like Barcelona.If you are looking for an underdog, none of the 4 teams you listed would fit (Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Real Madrid).Let us try this a different way. Before you pick a team to follow, which league are you most interested in following? If you can narrow it down to a league, it will make recommendations easier for us.Enjoy the Red Bull games! Hopefully Henry will be healthy in some of the games you have as he just hurt his hamstring. Which teams do you have tickets to see play against?
Correct. I teach in Kearny. We have some REALLY good players in the elementary schools here. It's really fun to watch these kids go at it. As far a league to follow, I'm still confused as to how many leagues there are. I know there's La Liga, the Premiere League, but also many leagues in Mexico and South America. The Red Bulls games I have tix for are the games against Houston, DC, Seattle, Portland, and Chicago. We have a few players come do training sessions with the traveling teams in town all the time. Players are always gracious of their fans and down to earth. Last fall we had Agudelo here and the kids went NUTS. Thanks for the warm welcome!
Every country in the world has a league. The biggest ones are the English, Spanish, Italian, and German, so they typically have the most money and best players. That also means they are the easiest to watch. You should pick a league that you can actually watch on TV in HD. If you have Fox Soccer and GolTV, you can pick any of those 4. If you don't have either and are relying on ESPN, you're better off sticking with the EPL.
 
As far a league to follow, I'm still confused as to how many leagues there are. I know there's La Liga, the Premiere League, but also many leagues in Mexico and South America.
ok cool. Let's start the lessons with this comment.*Almost every country has its own domestic leagues.*Each domestic league structure is typically broken down into divisions( levels) of professional teams (think of them like MLB and minor league baseball for now).*For example in England, there are 4 professional divisions. The top league is the EPL (English Premier League).*The 4 top leagues in the world are in Europe and they are the following (in no particular order).Serie A - From Italy (top names are AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus etc)EPL - From England (top names are Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal etc)Bundesliga - From Germany (top names are Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Bayer Leverkusen etc)LA Liga - From Spain (top names are Barcelona, Real Madrid)* These 4 leagues tend to be the strongest because they combine strong locally born talent with purchasing the best talent from other leagues else where in the world.* There is a competition you may have heard of called The Champions League which pits the best teams from all leagues in Europe against each other.* All of the above is considered "club football". Another huge part of the sport is the international side in which countries play against each other in tournaments like the World Cup. The players are typically the best players who are citizens of a certain country. For example, Juan Agudelo's club team is the Red Bulls but he also plays for the US.Read through this and digest and send any more questions you might have.
 
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I always found it strange that we can talk about MLS, Bundesliga, Serie A, EPL, La Liga etc with having fans of various teams and lots of information and yet the league that is by far and away the most popular in the US (by TV ratings), the Mexican Football League, does not have a single supporter in this thread to my knowledge.I wonder if Mexican-American's are not that into Fantasy Football.....
Pretty sure the Latino contingent on FBGs is fairly small.Also, we follow MLS because it's our domestic league. The other four get followed b/c they're the best leagues in the world. MFL is neither... there's just no reason to watch it for me.
 
Since I teach in what the locals call Soccertown USA, I guess I should pick a team to follow. Really like Nessi, but isn't picking Barcelona too easy? I do like Neymar and he's set to join the team in 2 years, so I might be leaning towards them. But I love rooting for the underdog. Which is a good team to follow? Man U, Chelsea, Read Madrid, Arsenal. We have an awesome soccer stadium here 2 minutes away (Red Bulls) in which I just got tickets for 5 games. Trying to get into this awesome sport. TIA.
Liverpool is a good underdog to root for. Most successful club in England through the 80's who have fallen on hard times recently, and were passed by their hated rivals Man U for most championships. On the ascent now, but still a year or two away. Just sayin. Plus, they have the best song sung by the fans in the world in my opinion. Every time a whole stadium full of people sings "You'll Never Walk Alone", I get chills.
Being passed as the winningest team in English history by United does not make one a sudden underdog. They are still the third wealthiest team in the country even without Champion's league, they just won the League Cup, and they are in the Finals of the FA cup. Weren't they just league runner's up just a few years ago as well? Underdogs... for crying out loud.Usual21:If you want an underdog team that still gets league TV time you are looking at Newcastle, Tottenham, Napoli, Valencia, maybe Dortmund. English soccer is generally easier to follow due to ESPN and Fox being the primary broadcastes in the US. If you want to root for a top international team then just choose a league and pick from your RM, Barca, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Milan, Inter, etc. Technically, they are all going to be underdogs at any given time to Barca and RM for the next few years. If you want a historic team that's on the rise again Juventus is a good option. They will have Champion's League again next year. City is also a good option if you don't mind going to Hell when you die.
 
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The Red Bulls games I have tix for are the games against Houston, DC, Seattle, Portland, and Chicago. We have a few players come do training sessions with the traveling teams in town all the time. Players are always gracious of their fans and down to earth. Last fall we had Agudelo here and the kids went NUTS.
I am a huge MLS fan and these are a nice group of games you have! Before you go to a game, post here and I can give you some things to watch for each team you go to see.
 
Since I teach in what the locals call Soccertown USA, I guess I should pick a team to follow. Really like Nessi, but isn't picking Barcelona too easy? I do like Neymar and he's set to join the team in 2 years, so I might be leaning towards them. But I love rooting for the underdog. Which is a good team to follow? Man U, Chelsea, Read Madrid, Arsenal. We have an awesome soccer stadium here 2 minutes away (Red Bulls) in which I just got tickets for 5 games. Trying to get into this awesome sport. TIA.
Liverpool is a good underdog to root for. Most successful club in England through the 80's who have fallen on hard times recently, and were passed by their hated rivals Man U for most championships. On the ascent now, but still a year or two away. Just sayin. Plus, they have the best song sung by the fans in the world in my opinion. Every time a whole stadium full of people sings "You'll Never Walk Alone", I get chills.
Being passed as the winningest team in English history by United does not make one a sudden underdog. They are still the third wealthiest team in the country even without Champion's league, they just won the League Cup, and they are in the Finals of the FA cup. Weren't they just league runner's up just a few years ago as well? Underdogs... for crying out loud.Usual21:

If you want an underdog team that still gets league TV time you are looking at Newcastle, Tottenham, Napoli, Valencia, maybe Dortmund. English soccer is generally easier to follow due to ESPN and Fox being the primary broadcastes in the US. If you want to root for a top international team then just choose a league and pick from your RM, Barca, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Milan, Inter, etc. Technically, they are all going to be underdogs at any given time to Barca and RM for the next few years. If you want a historic team that's on the rise again Juventus is a good option. They will have Champion's League again next year. City is also a good option if you don't mind going to Hell when you die.
:lmao: Underdog is a pretty relative term. Arsenal is very much an underdog to win the league title for the foreseeable future. Newcastle is an underdog to make Champions League.

 
Man City v Man Utd

Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero.

Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.

Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney.

Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.

Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)

 
Cologne confirms Podolski move to Arsenal

Podolski's contract at Cologne, which could still be relegated from the Bundesliga with one match remaining, was due to expire in a year. Arsenal said Podolski had agreed a "long-term" contract.
Cologne (Köln) are currently 16th and can rise no higher, but they could drop to 17th. The difference being 17 drops straight to BL2 while 16 has a relegation series with the #3 team from BL2 and could stay up.
As far a league to follow, I'm still confused as to how many leagues there are. I know there's La Liga, the Premiere League, but also many leagues in Mexico and South America.
* There is a competition you may have heard of called The Champions League which pits the best teams from all leagues in Europe against each other.
Die Bundesliga is the top league in Germany and has Bayern Munich one of the top teams in the world. They just defeated Real Madrid in the Champions League semi-final and will play Chelsea in the Final on May 19th.Someone has to pimp BL with all the EPL love in here.

 
While waiting for the top of the table clash today, I figured I would kill some time and look at the EPL relegation battle.2 of the following 5 teams will be relegated (note: Wolverhampton is already relegated)Blackburn, Bolton, QPR, Wigan, Aston Villa
I'm picking Blackburn and QPR.According to an article I read a few weeks ago, based on win/loss percentage, Kean is literally the worst Premier League Manager ever.
 
I always found it strange that we can talk about MLS, Bundesliga, Serie A, EPL, La Liga etc with having fans of various teams and lots of information and yet the league that is by far and away the most popular in the US (by TV ratings), the Mexican Football League, does not have a single supporter in this thread to my knowledge.I wonder if Mexican-American's are not that into Fantasy Football.....
Pretty sure the Latino contingent on FBGs is fairly small.Also, we follow MLS because it's our domestic league. The other four get followed b/c they're the best leagues in the world. MFL is neither... there's just no reason to watch it for me.
It's too bad Timschochet isn't a soccer fan or we would have full coverage along with everyone's potential immigration status.
 
While waiting for the top of the table clash today, I figured I would kill some time and look at the EPL relegation battle.2 of the following 5 teams will be relegated (note: Wolverhampton is already relegated)Blackburn, Bolton, QPR, Wigan, Aston Villa
I'm picking Blackburn and QPR.According to an article I read a few weeks ago, based on win/loss percentage, Kean is literally the worst Premier League Manager ever.
He takes a lot of heat which should really go to the owners.
 
Man City v Man UtdMan City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)
That looks like United is playing for the point, which probably isn't a bad strategy.
 
While waiting for the top of the table clash today, I figured I would kill some time and look at the EPL relegation battle.2 of the following 5 teams will be relegated (note: Wolverhampton is already relegated)Blackburn, Bolton, QPR, Wigan, Aston Villa
I'm picking Blackburn and QPR.According to an article I read a few weeks ago, based on win/loss percentage, Kean is literally the worst Premier League Manager ever.
He takes a lot of heat which should really go to the owners.
Venky's deserves what they get
 
The Red Bulls games I have tix for are the games against Houston, DC, Seattle, Portland, and Chicago. We have a few players come do training sessions with the traveling teams in town all the time. Players are always gracious of their fans and down to earth. Last fall we had Agudelo here and the kids went NUTS.
I am a huge MLS fan and these are a nice group of games you have! Before you go to a game, post here and I can give you some things to watch for each team you go to see.
:thumbup:
 
Since I teach in what the locals call Soccertown USA, I guess I should pick a team to follow. Really like Nessi, but isn't picking Barcelona too easy? I do like Neymar and he's set to join the team in 2 years, so I might be leaning towards them. But I love rooting for the underdog. Which is a good team to follow? Man U, Chelsea, Read Madrid, Arsenal. We have an awesome soccer stadium here 2 minutes away (Red Bulls) in which I just got tickets for 5 games. Trying to get into this awesome sport. TIA.
Liverpool is a good underdog to root for. Most successful club in England through the 80's who have fallen on hard times recently, and were passed by their hated rivals Man U for most championships. On the ascent now, but still a year or two away. Just sayin. Plus, they have the best song sung by the fans in the world in my opinion. Every time a whole stadium full of people sings "You'll Never Walk Alone", I get chills.
Being passed as the winningest team in English history by United does not make one a sudden underdog. They are still the third wealthiest team in the country even without Champion's league, they just won the League Cup, and they are in the Finals of the FA cup. Weren't they just league runner's up just a few years ago as well? Underdogs... for crying out loud.Usual21:If you want an underdog team that still gets league TV time you are looking at Newcastle, Tottenham, Napoli, Valencia, maybe Dortmund. English soccer is generally easier to follow due to ESPN and Fox being the primary broadcastes in the US. If you want to root for a top international team then just choose a league and pick from your RM, Barca, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Milan, Inter, etc. Technically, they are all going to be underdogs at any given time to Barca and RM for the next few years. If you want a historic team that's on the rise again Juventus is a good option. They will have Champion's League again next year. City is also a good option if you don't mind going to Hell when you die.
Touche. Just meant underdog to win the league, but I get what you're sayin.
 
Since I teach in what the locals call Soccertown USA, I guess I should pick a team to follow. Really like Nessi, but isn't picking Barcelona too easy? I do like Neymar and he's set to join the team in 2 years, so I might be leaning towards them. But I love rooting for the underdog. Which is a good team to follow? Man U, Chelsea, Read Madrid, Arsenal. We have an awesome soccer stadium here 2 minutes away (Red Bulls) in which I just got tickets for 5 games. Trying to get into this awesome sport. TIA.
Liverpool is a good underdog to root for. Most successful club in England through the 80's who have fallen on hard times recently, and were passed by their hated rivals Man U for most championships. On the ascent now, but still a year or two away. Just sayin. Plus, they have the best song sung by the fans in the world in my opinion. Every time a whole stadium full of people sings "You'll Never Walk Alone", I get chills.
Liverpool's Red Sox connection might make them undesirable to our new friend with Red Bulls tickets and Eli Manning in his avatar.If not, there does seem to be more Pool fans in this thread than any other team for some reason, so it's a good group to join.
 
Man City v Man UtdMan City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)
That looks like United is playing for the point, which probably isn't a bad strategy.
Casual soccer guy here, watching this one because it's an even slower day than normal at the office. Any quick tips for things to keep an untrained eye on? I know the basics (United three up in EPL standings near the end of the season) and that's about it.
 
Man City v Man UtdMan City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)
That looks like United is playing for the point, which probably isn't a bad strategy.
Casual soccer guy here, watching this one because it's an even slower day than normal at the office. Any quick tips for things to keep an untrained eye on? I know the basics (United three up in EPL standings near the end of the season) and that's about it.
As a casual observer that is pretty much it. Any other result besides a Man City win, and Man U put a death grip on the title. Because Man City has to win and are at home, it is likely they will push the attack. United will likely absorb the pressure and counter attack.
 
While waiting for the top of the table clash today, I figured I would kill some time and look at the EPL relegation battle.2 of the following 5 teams will be relegated (note: Wolverhampton is already relegated)Blackburn, Bolton, QPR, Wigan, Aston Villa
I'm picking Blackburn and QPR.According to an article I read a few weeks ago, based on win/loss percentage, Kean is literally the worst Premier League Manager ever.
He takes a lot of heat which should really go to the owners.
Sure, they suck too. But it takes a special combination to have the worst record ever.
 
United throwing an extremely defensive (and old) team out thereEvra-Rio-Smalling-JonesNani-Carrick-Scholes-Giggs-Park#10
Old? I see Veteran lineup....Gonna be some serious composure needed today
Giggs 38, Scholes 37, Rio 34, Park 30, Carrick 30. Looks pretty old to me.
'Experience is vital. Ryan [Giggs] and Paul [scholes] have played more derbies than the whole of the players put together but they are fantastic players also.'My experience is you should never go for a draw, I've never played for a draw, I don't believe in that'Until today?
 
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Man City v Man UtdMan City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)
That looks like United is playing for the point, which probably isn't a bad strategy.
Casual soccer guy here, watching this one because it's an even slower day than normal at the office. Any quick tips for things to keep an untrained eye on? I know the basics (United three up in EPL standings near the end of the season) and that's about it.
I'd keep an eye on how far Rooney drops back. It'll say a lot about how defensively MUFC wants to play and Rooney is a rare example of a box-to-box forward.
 
Man City v Man UtdMan City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)
That looks like United is playing for the point, which probably isn't a bad strategy.
Casual soccer guy here, watching this one because it's an even slower day than normal at the office. Any quick tips for things to keep an untrained eye on? I know the basics (United three up in EPL standings near the end of the season) and that's about it.
I'd keep an eye on how far Rooney drops back. It'll say a lot about how defensively MUFC wants to play and Rooney is a rare example of a box-to-box forward.
I'll be interested to see how deep he can go as a lone striker. It's one thing when Chicharito is up there playing as a poacher with him, but another when he's the primary goal threat.
 
Man City v Man UtdMan City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Barry, Toure Yaya, Silva, Tevez, Nasri, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, De Jong, Balotelli.Man Utd: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Evra, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Berbatov, Hernandez, Young, Welbeck, Rafael Da Silva, Valencia.Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands)
That looks like United is playing for the point, which probably isn't a bad strategy.
Casual soccer guy here, watching this one because it's an even slower day than normal at the office. Any quick tips for things to keep an untrained eye on? I know the basics (United three up in EPL standings near the end of the season) and that's about it.
As a casual observer that is pretty much it. Any other result besides a Man City win, and Man U put a death grip on the title. Because Man City has to win and are at home, it is likely they will push the attack. United will likely absorb the pressure and counter attack.
Thanks, and thanks to Eephus too. :thumbup:
 

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