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Congrats to Chelsea. It was a great game to watch. Bayern just couldnt seem to get the goals and had plenty of chances. Drogba, what can be said? He is s stud, like him or not. And I have said on many occasions that Chelsea probably beat United last year in the CL and possible the EPL if Drogba plays ahead of Torres...Now on to the summer...Bye to Owen. Time to make room for a young guyBye to Berbatov (thanks for 2010/2011). He just didnt fit into the style United like to play these days. Great touch but not fleet of foot, esp when Nani, Valencia, Welbeck, Chicharito and Rooney can fly.Bye to Nani? Hello to?
That is the longest space between a double post I have ever seen. Weird!http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=305522&view=findpost&p=14399008
 
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I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
Honestly, no. Gary Neville made it a lot worse for me than it normally would have been. Something about his voice drives me nuts. I'd start at 75 minutes or so and just go forward from there.
:goodposting: Any game this guy is on I'm just going to watch in Spanish going forward. I'll give up HD not to hear his weird squeal win Chelsea or constant "It was written in the stars!" bull####.
 
I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
Honestly, no. Gary Neville made it a lot worse for me than it normally would have been. Something about his voice drives me nuts. I'd start at 75 minutes or so and just go forward from there.
:goodposting: Any game this guy is on I'm just going to watch in Spanish going forward. I'll give up HD not to hear his weird squeal win Chelsea or constant "It was written in the stars!" bull####.
Ray Hudson is worse with his fellating of Barça.
 
I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
Honestly, no. Gary Neville made it a lot worse for me than it normally would have been. Something about his voice drives me nuts. I'd start at 75 minutes or so and just go forward from there.
:goodposting: Any game this guy is on I'm just going to watch in Spanish going forward. I'll give up HD not to hear his weird squeal win Chelsea or constant "It was written in the stars!" bull####.
Ray Hudson is worse with his fellating of Barça.
At least he is funny with it. And Ray Hudson is more of a Jon Gruden type, he fellates just about everything. If I were Ozil (Avatar eyes) or Messi, I would be scared to be in a room alone with him.

 
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Euro predictions? I think I'm most interested in Group C. Group A: Russia & Poland advance, Greece/Czech outGroup B: Germany & Netherlands, Portugal/DenmarkGroup C: Spain & Croatia, Italy/IrelandGroup D: Ukraine & France, Sweden/EnglandNetherlands over RussiaSpain over FranceGermany over Poland (really tempted to pick an upset here)Ukraine over CroatiaNetherlands over SpainGermany over UkraineNetherlands over Germany
Reasonable.Thinking about putting some coin on ze Germans.
 
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I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
Honestly, no. Gary Neville made it a lot worse for me than it normally would have been. Something about his voice drives me nuts. I'd start at 75 minutes or so and just go forward from there.
:goodposting: Any game this guy is on I'm just going to watch in Spanish going forward. I'll give up HD not to hear his weird squeal win Chelsea or constant "It was written in the stars!" bull####.
You should be able to flip on the SAP and keep it in HD. And I love Ray Hudson. He's hilarious.
 
I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
Honestly, no. Gary Neville made it a lot worse for me than it normally would have been. Something about his voice drives me nuts. I'd start at 75 minutes or so and just go forward from there.
:goodposting: Any game this guy is on I'm just going to watch in Spanish going forward. I'll give up HD not to hear his weird squeal win Chelsea or constant "It was written in the stars!" bull####.
Ray Hudson is worse with his fellating of Barça.
I've tolerated your anti-Hudson sentiment in the past but if you want to throw down fisticuffs, fine. I've got Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary ready for ya. I can be in Baltimore tomorrow.
 
I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
I personally hated the game because I hate watching teams I don't support play for PK's. But it depends on how you enjoy watching a game I guess.
I generally have a lot of trouble watching a game if I already know the ending, but I can watch if it's just a great, fascinating game. Most sources made it sound like Bayern pretty well killed them though. Maybe I'll start in the 75th like Moe said.
Definitely skip forward to the last 15. The game was the type of affair that makes non-believers into no-#######-way-believers; a pretty drab, inventionless watch. Domination by BM, but shanking their shots badly and missing any kind of creativity to break down a resolute Chelsea. Lots of throwing bodies at shots by Chelsea, a handful of counters and Drogba. Speaking of counters- it was like watching a fight where both guys are counter-punchers... one guy inevitably becomes the aggressor, but never looks entirely comfortable doing it. Then you just wait and see who scores better or ####s up.
 
I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
Honestly, no. Gary Neville made it a lot worse for me than it normally would have been. Something about his voice drives me nuts. I'd start at 75 minutes or so and just go forward from there.
:goodposting: Any game this guy is on I'm just going to watch in Spanish going forward. I'll give up HD not to hear his weird squeal win Chelsea or constant "It was written in the stars!" bull####.
Ray Hudson is worse with his fellating of Barça.
I've tolerated your anti-Hudson sentiment in the past but if you want to throw down fisticuffs, fine. I've got Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary ready for ya. I can be in Baltimore tomorrow.
Come on by. If you like the Hudson does it, I'm sure there are a few places in BMore than can accommodate your tastes.
 
Getting pretty jazzed for Scotland and Brazil in the next week.Predictions?1-0 v Scotland1-2 v Brazil
I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the Olympic qualifiers. I know it is a completely different team, but I still have that bad taste. 1-2 Scotland0-6 Brazil
 
From Goff

Posted at 03:08 PM ET, 05/21/2012

Ticket sales update for U.S. national soccer team matches

By Steven Goff

The latest sales figures for upcoming U.S. men’s

MEN

Scotland friendly Saturday night in Jacksonville: 31,600

(The Florida state record for a U.S. friendly was 31,547 for Ecuador in Tampa in 2007)

Brazil friendly May 30 in Landover, Md.: 53,000

(One organizer says Latin American fans are waiting to see if Neymar travels. Santos is currently in Copa Libertadores quarterfinals.)

Antigua World Cup qualifier June 8 in Tampa: 8,000

 
I was out of town all weekend and DVR'd the game. I know the end result and have read all about it. Is it worth watching? TIA
I personally hated the game because I hate watching teams I don't support play for PK's. But it depends on how you enjoy watching a game I guess.
I generally have a lot of trouble watching a game if I already know the ending, but I can watch if it's just a great, fascinating game. Most sources made it sound like Bayern pretty well killed them though. Maybe I'll start in the 75th like Moe said.
Definitely skip forward to the last 15. The game was the type of affair that makes non-believers into no-#######-way-believers; a pretty drab, inventionless watch. Domination by BM, but shanking their shots badly and missing any kind of creativity to break down a resolute Chelsea. Lots of throwing bodies at shots by Chelsea, a handful of counters and Drogba. Speaking of counters- it was like watching a fight where both guys are counter-punchers... one guy inevitably becomes the aggressor, but never looks entirely comfortable doing it. Then you just wait and see who scores better or ####s up.
Can BM be considered a counter-punching team? I think they trail only Barca in Europe in terms of possession.
 
Parkhurst still has another league game, correct? Will he be available this weekend?

I'll be surprised and disappointed if we don't look good against Scotland, whatever the score ends up being I just hope we're able to create a lot of chances. Howard, Gooch, Dolo, Bradley, Donovan, Dempsey have to be locks, beyond that who knows. Do we even have a lb? I'm hoping they use Dempsey as a striker. Color me excited.

 
I'd love to see Pep take over the Argentina National team. What are the chances of that happening? That team is loaded with talent, but they have under achieved for years. Pep would be a perfect fit there.

 
I'd love to see Pep take over the Argentina National team. What are the chances of that happening? That team is loaded with talent, but they have under achieved for years. Pep would be a perfect fit there.
Slim, but probably better than the odds that he takes a club job.My best guess is that Pep winds up back at Barca at some point, either as manager again or in a front-office role. I think he loves the club a lot more than he loves coaching.
 
Parkhurst still has another league game, correct? Will he be available this weekend?I'll be surprised and disappointed if we don't look good against Scotland, whatever the score ends up being I just hope we're able to create a lot of chances. Howard, Gooch, Dolo, Bradley, Donovan, Dempsey have to be locks, beyond that who knows. Do we even have a lb? I'm hoping they use Dempsey as a striker. Color me excited.
Parkhurst has one more game left. His last game is on Wednesday. The final 23 man roster will be chosen on Friday. If I had to guess a starting line up based on the roster and positions listed I would go with thisHowardCher Gooch Boca CastilloJohnson Jones Bradley DonovanDempsey Altidore
 
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'Sebowski said:
I'd love to see Pep take over the Argentina National team. What are the chances of that happening? That team is loaded with talent, but they have under achieved for years. Pep would be a perfect fit there.
Other than the fact that he's not Argentinean.
 
'Sebowski said:
I'd love to see Pep take over the Argentina National team. What are the chances of that happening? That team is loaded with talent, but they have under achieved for years. Pep would be a perfect fit there.
Other than the fact that he's not Argentinean.
Are they completely against having a foreign coach? I know some countries are. Most these days don't seem to be though. If anyone could break that mold for Argentina you'd think it would be Pep.
 
'Sebowski said:
I'd love to see Pep take over the Argentina National team. What are the chances of that happening? That team is loaded with talent, but they have under achieved for years. Pep would be a perfect fit there.
Other than the fact that he's not Argentinean.
Are they completely against having a foreign coach? I know some countries are. Most these days don't seem to be though. If anyone could break that mold for Argentina you'd think it would be Pep.
There's some animosity between some factions of Argentina and Barça due to Messi's perceived performances with each team. I'm not sure they want to bring more Catalans over. I doubt they are willing to swallow their pride like that (see Malvinas aka Falklands).
 
Bayern is either going to win the Champions League at their own stadium, launching a massive celebration...

Or complete a treble of really frustrating runner-up finishes, probably starting a riot.

:popcorn:
Has anyone ever Done that before?
Looked into it now that Bayern pulled it off, and they're actually not the first. In 1986, Barcelona was runner-up in La Liga, the Copa Del Rey, and the European Cup. However, Barca did win a trophy that year, the Copa de la Liga, a Spanish equivalent to the League Cup which existed only from 1982-86.

In 2002, Bayer Leverkusen was runner-up in the Champions League, Bundesliga and DFB-Pokal.

 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network

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Phil Schoen

@PhilSchoen

Today, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.

 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
And I just got GolTV added to my cable. They still have Bundesliga rights for 3 years and that's the main reason I wanted it, so hopefully it will survive for that.
 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
And I just got GolTV added to my cable. They still have Bundesliga rights for 3 years and that's the main reason I wanted it, so hopefully it will survive for that.
They're going to have a lot of space freed up for Bundesliga games now...Drogba's made overtures to Barca. Given that he's free, he might make some sense for them. :shrug:
 
'Good said:
Can BM be considered a counter-punching team? I think they trail only Barca in Europe in terms of possession.
I actually saw somewhere this past week that in the 5 big leagues the average possession was #1 Barca, #2 Bayern.
 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
And I just got GolTV added to my cable. They still have Bundesliga rights for 3 years and that's the main reason I wanted it, so hopefully it will survive for that.
They're going to have a lot of space freed up for Bundesliga games now...Drogba's made overtures to Barca. Given that he's free, he might make some sense for them. :shrug:
Being reported that he's already agreed to terms with Anelka's team in China
 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
And I just got GolTV added to my cable. They still have Bundesliga rights for 3 years and that's the main reason I wanted it, so hopefully it will survive for that.
They're going to have a lot of space freed up for Bundesliga games now...Drogba's made overtures to Barca. Given that he's free, he might make some sense for them. :shrug:
He doesn't fit that system at all.
 
Bayern is either going to win the Champions League at their own stadium, launching a massive celebration...

Or complete a treble of really frustrating runner-up finishes, probably starting a riot.

:popcorn:
Has anyone ever Done that before?
Looked into it now that Bayern pulled it off, and they're actually not the first. In 1986, Barcelona was runner-up in La Liga, the Copa Del Rey, and the European Cup. However, Barca did win a trophy that year, the Copa de la Liga, a Spanish equivalent to the League Cup which existed only from 1982-86.

In 2002, Bayer Leverkusen was runner-up in the Champions League, Bundesliga and DFB-Pokal.
Thanks. I've been thinking about that since you posted it.
 
'Sebowski said:
I'd love to see Pep take over the Argentina National team. What are the chances of that happening? That team is loaded with talent, but they have under achieved for years. Pep would be a perfect fit there.
Other than the fact that he's not Argentinean.
Are they completely against having a foreign coach? I know some countries are. Most these days don't seem to be though. If anyone could break that mold for Argentina you'd think it would be Pep.
There's some animosity between some factions of Argentina and Barça due to Messi's perceived performances with each team. I'm not sure they want to bring more Catalans over. I doubt they are willing to swallow their pride like that (see Malvinas aka Falklands).
I know about that first part. Maybe I'm too big of a Messi, but I think that is exactly why people would welcome Pep to take over. They have seen what he can bring out of Messi. Why wouldn't they want that out of him, Tevez, Higuian, Di Maria... Pep has even gotten the best Mascherano has ever shown. I think it is a perfect fit. I don't even want to keep thinking about because it will get me too excited.
 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
And I just got GolTV added to my cable. They still have Bundesliga rights for 3 years and that's the main reason I wanted it, so hopefully it will survive for that.
They're going to have a lot of space freed up for Bundesliga games now...Drogba's made overtures to Barca. Given that he's free, he might make some sense for them. :shrug:
He doesn't fit that system at all.
Agreed. Ibrahimovic was Barca's experiment with a big target striker and we know how that worked out.
 
The Gardians Transfer Rumor Mill says Manchester United are looking at Dempsey to replace Berbatov.http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/18/transfer-rumours-robin-van-persie-manchester-cityMost likely nonsense but still worth sharing..
Article says Pepe Guardiola is Liverpool's top target to replace Dalglish. May be a long shot, but that'd be a sweet hire if it came true.
 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
Juan Arrango, also of GolTV, tweeted that Schoen will be joining be In Sports.
 
Just getting back from vacation and saw that my Bolton couldn't hold a 1 goal lead and got relegated. Who is getting promoted this year?

 
Phil Schoen, long time soccer announcer on GolTV, resigned today. I think the writing is clearly on the wall with that network=========Phil Schoen@PhilSchoenToday, after nearly a decade of thrills, I have resigned from GolTV. So many memories, so many friends. What's next? Watch this space.
And I just got GolTV added to my cable. They still have Bundesliga rights for 3 years and that's the main reason I wanted it, so hopefully it will survive for that.
They're going to have a lot of space freed up for Bundesliga games now...Drogba's made overtures to Barca. Given that he's free, he might make some sense for them. :shrug:
Well, he has shown off his defending skills in the last couple of weeks. Joking aside, Drogba in the Blaugrana would a ####### disgrace.
 
JK talks about Chandler's decision, why he selected Boyd and Corona and his thoughts on the strikers

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ORLANDO, FL

As more and more players rolled into US men’s national team training camp on Monday at Disney World, the squad grew closer to being at full strength ahead of the team’s upcoming friendlies and World Cup qualifiers over the next three weeks.

With the exception of Jozy Altidore and Oguchi Onyewu who will be joining the team soon, majority of Jurgen Klinsmann’s first-choice options were all in attendance; all except Timmy Chandler, who made waves recently by turning down a national team call-up who, according to Klinsmann, needed rest.

Speaking exclusively to FOX Soccer on Monday, Klinsmann provided his first detailed reaction to Chandler’s decision, along with his clear disappointment with the German-born player’s decision. Klinsmann sounded like a coach who wasn’t going to lose much sleep over Chandler reconsidering his national team options.

“At the end of the day the players, when they mature throughout their careers, they have to make their decisions,” Klinsmann said when asked about Chandler turning down the US call-up. “He has to make his decisions, he’s now made this decision and we take it and we move on. We’re not happy about it, but that’s normal.”

To his credit, the 22-year-old is coming off the busiest season of his young career. Yet, the fact that he has yet to be cap-tied and could still play for Germany, has left the real belief that his latest rejection of team USA suggests he is having second thoughts.

Klinsmann pointed to Chandler’s age as a possible reason the player appears to be indecisive about his national team future.

“Down the road, when he gets little older and a bit more mature, there will be this decision to make on what you want to do with your life and with your career,” Klinsmann said. “That moment gets closer and closer for him and we’ll see what direction he wants to go.

“But we’re not forcing anybody. It’s their choice,” Klinsmann said. “It will happen all the time because it’s a global game and now we live in a world of globalization where a lot of kids grow up with dual citizenships, or in Alfredo’s (Morales) case three options, and we do not put pressure on the players but sooner or later they have to make a decision to also make it clear to their team if they are committed to it or not.”

YOUNG GUNS IMPRESS

Just minutes after the US Under-23 national team failed to qualify for the Olympics, Klinsmann pointed out two players who he thought impressed amid the U-23 team’s disappointing run. He mentioned Terrence Boyd and Joe Corona as having impressed him, which makes it no surprise that the two players are two of only three members of the aforementioned U-23 team that were included in the 27-player training camp (Juan Agudelo being the other).

“They showed me a lot of hunger, they showed me a lot of desire and a lot of willingness to suffer,” Klinsmann said of Boyd and Corona. “They had a clean kind of approach to their games that they want to finish things off. Obviously, we need to get into a phase where every player, especially in the attacking area, wants badly to score and wants to finish things off. Whether it’s with a shot or with whatever, they create something and finish it off.

“Both had that hunger and they showed that clearly,” Klinsmann said. “Even after that big disappointment, I said there were some bright spots in a kind of very dark moments.”

Klinsmann added: “They are here and now they can prove that. It’s just the beginning for them. It’s time for them to be sponges and take in what Clint Dempsey’s doing and what the bigger guys are doing and learn from them.”

Boyd, Corona and German-born midfielder Alfredo Morales, are the youngest members of the current camp. While there’s no guarantee that any of them will make the final 23-man roster for World Cup qualifying matches next month, all three will make it hard for Klinsmann to decide in the upcoming days.

FORWARD BATTLE UNDER WAY

The forward position has been a tough one for the US team to fill in recent years. Fortunately, the collection of forwards Klinsmann has called in should help the squad come up with quality options ahead of next month’s qualifiers.

Altidore is a sure-fire starter that will not join the team until May 28. Herculez Gomez, who just finished up a championship season with Mexican side Santos Laguna (he joins the team on Wednesday), will join the leading in Major League Soccer, Chris Wondolowski.

Gomez and Wondolowski would have been considered long-shots a few months ago. But their outstanding goal-scoring records in 2012 made them easy selections for Klinsmann.

“The benchmark for strikers is always your scoring record, no matter where you play in the world,” Klinsmann said. “Whether you play in a 4-3-3 or a 4-4-2, it doesn’t really matter. What we’re looking for, step one, is his work rate and his goal rate. That’s why these guys deserve to be here.

“It’s about their hunger, their willingness to suffer, the way they present themselves in these one-on-one situations,” Klinsmann said. “We want to see them make their case. Push away the defenders and score goals. That’s what we want to see now over the next three weeks, how hungry they are and hopefully they deliver us goals.

With youngsters like Boyd and Agudelo also taking part in camp, Klinsmann will have plenty of forwards to evaluate. That collection of strikers makes it more likely that Klinsmann will use Dempsey in a playmaking role, while positioning Landon Donovan as a wing midfielder through the summer.

Ives Galarcep is a senior writer for FOXSoccer.com covering Major League Soccer and the US National Team.

 
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