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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Unless something funny happens, that game should determine who goes through, the US or Guat.
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Moe.
Footballguy
What a joke.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Why is it a joke? One of the big teams struggles in the semi's every cycle. It's certainly not our first bumpy road and Mexico squeezed by on the last game last semi final cycle.Floppo and I have always said we think the semi's are more difficult than the hex. The US had a great semi's last cycle but that was rare.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Out of form, for sure.
Eephus
Footballguy
Except for the free kick, it's not like Jamaica was playing over their heads. The US played down to their level and couldn't maintain possession to save their souls.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Dempsey looked dead in the second half. Now we need to wonder if he can go again so soon.
Jozy's play bugged me the most though. Fully fit, in form and the perfect chance to put the team on his back and was invisible.
Jozy's play bugged me the most though. Fully fit, in form and the perfect chance to put the team on his back and was invisible.
Moe.
Footballguy
Calm down.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
So so bad
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Costa Rica with a new stadium.
Eephus
Footballguy
To be fair, he didn't get a lot of service.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Huh? Just trying to give some perspective.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Agreed but his work rate was not great either and the three or so times he touched the ball, he gave it right away. I just was hoping for more I guess.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Tye USA didn't deserve a point.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
At least Venezuela know how to score. 1-0 up on Peru.
Both teams loook more dangerous than either USA or JAM.
Both teams loook more dangerous than either USA or JAM.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Can I reiterate how much I hate Beckerman?
Moe.
Footballguy
I'm calmer than you are.Huh? Just trying to give some perspective.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
You can't imagine the wave of #### I will get if Venezuela qualifies and the US doesn't.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Decent chance that US, Guat, and Jamaica could all be level on 7 points after the games on Tuesday.
If that happens the US will qualify with a win against in Antigua and a draw against Guat no matter the results of the other games.
The US will need a much better performance at home on Tuesday. A loss would be devastating as the US would lose control of their own fate.
If that happens the US will qualify with a win against in Antigua and a draw against Guat no matter the results of the other games.
The US will need a much better performance at home on Tuesday. A loss would be devastating as the US would lose control of their own fate.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Totally. I was trying to write how weak the Jamaican MF was defending, pretty much throughout the game. US MFs had plenty of time on the ball, but couldn't link up with each other or with the forwards. But the Jamaican back line was stout, and when anybody got the ball, they just had to run sideways until the got around the corner of the US defender.
El Floppo
Footballguy
You really weren't. And I was the least calm of anybody.I'm calmer than you are.Huh? Just trying to give some perspective.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Anyone else think the US back 4 was decent? I would have no real problems with them starting again on Tuesday. We do lose some attacking with Parkhurst since that is not his strength although even Fab had no space to get forward.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Hmmmm, Antigua just took the lead over Guat, in Guat, late in the first half.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
If that holds, what's the result? If they draw?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The score is 1-0 right now. I am unsure what you are asking.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Gomez got fair- not great- service. But Jozy was completely- COMPLETELY- AWOL. Soo hard to say why only watching the play within the TV screen. Can't watch his runs off the ball thoughout the play when he's off-camera.But he seemed slow to react to the first and second ball- typically beaten on the ground and in the air by his defenders. And he never got separation from them. Now- maybe his role was to push up high and keep the center backs occupied while Gomez worked the seams... but even still, they just ate him up. Most non-existent game of his I think I've ever seen. Not a single useful touch that I can recall.
Also- Edu just was never at the same speed as the game and looked like he hasn't played lately... oh wait- he hasn't.
Everybody hates Beckerman... yadayadayada. But he still created the US goal, and was one of the only guy who looked like he could link up with anybody and complete a pass. Of course, that was with Jamaica playing some kind of mystical invisible defense through the MF- just waiting for the US to cough up the ball without too much pressure. Once the pressure and pace arrived, Beckerman- as we all know and have said ad nauseum- can't keep up and fouls foolishly.
El Floppo
Footballguy
are you using my thumbs and phone? or just as drunk as I am/was.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I agree. The problem wasn't with the back 4, it was the MFs in front of them.But without Bradley, all of a sudden the US looks pretty thin there.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I'm asking in regards to standings in the group.Mother ####, peru just scored a second to go up.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Antigua made it to half time up 1-0. Park the bus lads! 
Getting any points off of Guat would be huge for the US.
Getting any points off of Guat would be huge for the US.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Jam has 7 points after 3 gamesUS has 4 points after 3 gamesGuat has 1 point after 2 games (playing 3rd game now)Antigua has 0 points after 2 games (playing 3rd game now)
El Floppo
Footballguy
btw- lost amidst all the hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth, that 2nd Jamaica goal was pretty ####### well taken.
Out of 4 goals given up by the US this cycle, 3 have been from direct free kicks. Somebody needs to tell those defensive MFs not to foul so much in front of the box.
Out of 4 goals given up by the US this cycle, 3 have been from direct free kicks. Somebody needs to tell those defensive MFs not to foul so much in front of the box.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
That's right. I forgot Pappa scored one as well. They may also need to think about the walls placement. The first goal was a mess.
El Floppo
Footballguy
You didn't like Beckerman's jump and turn sideways technique?
El Floppo
Footballguy
But really- teh point is that the Howard hasn't been too challenged in the 3 games, and that's a result of decent defending in front of him from the back 4. I don't recall Guat doing much at all outside of the goal. And Antigua's goal was just a result of some shoddy individual defending on the play- not a lot of chances other than that. How many shots did Jamaica put on frame? Did Howard even make a save?That said- Jamaica also screwed the pooch with some embarrassing service from the flanks.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
So VZLA has squandered a 1-0 lead away today, just like the US. Now they're down a man after a second yellow. They're ####ed.
What a waste of a night.
What a waste of a night.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Just got back from the bar. Gonna pour myself a massive beer #### it, I'm just going to drink out of the growler
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Howard made nearly as many sves as the Jam goalie. The US put very few balls on frame.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
DO IT
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Here are the basic statshttp://www.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2012-09-07-jam-v-usa/statsHere is the detailed chalkboard with the Opta statshttp://www.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2012-09-07-jam-v-usa/chalkboard'El Floppo said:
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