Two games could be huge. They should be able to get a result against Swansea, but if Vardy misses the match at Old Trafford...
Of course, none of that matters if Spurs don't take care of business on a Monday night in Stoke.
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Of course, none of that matters if Spurs don't take care of business on a Monday night in Stoke.
I thought that was an updated story.
Vardy has been charged with improper conduct, which will result in an additional game. He, and Leicester (also charged) have until Thursday to respond.
Vardy has been charged with improper conduct, which will result in an additional game. He, and Leicester (also charged) have until Thursday to respond.
Looked like Vardy launched himself - if he had just gone to ground on contact, it might have been different.
gianmarco
Footballguy
The guy weighs like a buck 20 fully wet and before a monster poop. Legs got tangled and he went into the air. Diving is going to ground without any contact. Whether he made more of it or not, he was going down no matter what when their legs caught got together. Factor in that he's sitting on a yellow already and is the leading goal scorer on the top team in a title race, that's an awful call by the ref in that situation.
That call could completely impact the final table standings on what should have just been a goal kick. Silly on Vardy but just awful by the ref who had an abysmal day.
That call could completely impact the final table standings on what should have just been a goal kick. Silly on Vardy but just awful by the ref who had an abysmal day.
All shtick aside, legs did not get tangled. West Ham player was tugging at Vardy's shoulder. Then, watch Vardy's lower body - he moves into the defender - not the shoulder which was being tugged. As he moves into the defender - he then kicks out, launching himself to the ground. Classic dive.
https://streamable.com/0jer
As an aside - that stream also shows the "improper conduct" - pointing at Moss and allegedly calling him a ####### #### - but that seems rather tame to be charged...
https://streamable.com/0jer
As an aside - that stream also shows the "improper conduct" - pointing at Moss and allegedly calling him a ####### #### - but that seems rather tame to be charged...
I think the ref largely got the calls right. They could have gone the other way, but I would not call any of the key decisions egregious.
Prior to the West Ham penalty he pulled Huth and Morgan out for a chat - and essentially told them he was watching for the pulling/tugging - and Morgan did pull and tug on the corner. Certainly those don't get called all the time - but given the advanced warning I don't think it was a "wrong" call.
Vardy's first yellows was for an accumulation of fouls - that happens.
Vardy's second yellow was pretty clearly a dive. I think the fact that the FA have charged Vardy with improper conduct following the dismissal shows they are backing Moss here. I think if it was a questionable call, they would have let Vardy go on the improper conduct charge.
Carroll's penalty - again that gets called sometimes, and not called sometimes. If the game were already 2-2 it probably would not have been called - but it was a foul, that would easily be called in the middle of the field.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I don't think that there's any question that Vardy initiated the contact with his legs. The question is whether that's simulation (and a second yellow card) or just a no call. I normally think of a dive as simulating contact, not initiating contact. It's not a PK in any case.
Of course, Vardy's first yellow was also super soft. He was punished because LC were piling up the fouls, but he was carded on a challenge that he actually pulled out of.
Of course, Vardy's first yellow was also super soft. He was punished because LC were piling up the fouls, but he was carded on a challenge that he actually pulled out of.
The Gator
Footballguy
Carroll's foul and the one on Vardy were similar, minus the extra kick out from the Leicester player.
Contact = no dive for me. Vardy tried to cut in front and went down on contact, happens all the time and is never a yellow when there's contact. West Ham had the ball back and most refs would waive at the player and tell him to get up.
The extra game for Vardy is not for the dive but for his reaction and that's not backing Moss on his dive call. It's backing the ref for abuse, which is fine.
Did Vardy embellish? Yes.
Is that a yellow, especially a second yellow? No
Contact = no dive for me. Vardy tried to cut in front and went down on contact, happens all the time and is never a yellow when there's contact. West Ham had the ball back and most refs would waive at the player and tell him to get up.
The extra game for Vardy is not for the dive but for his reaction and that's not backing Moss on his dive call. It's backing the ref for abuse, which is fine.
Did Vardy embellish? Yes.
Is that a yellow, especially a second yellow? No
I think the simulation came when he launched himself after the contact.
If he had just gone down, I suspect it would have been a non-call all the way around. But, when he launched - it had the appearance of trying to draw a foul that was not there - particularly from Moss' view behind the play.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I'm just glad the ref got the check from White Hart Lane!
That second yellow seemed weak. I don't think Vardy really has a reputation as a 'diver' does he? If a notorious 'diver' made the same play I can see the card being shown, but probably only a first yellow (which is also not fair because all cards should be awarded on their own merits).
That second yellow seemed weak. I don't think Vardy really has a reputation as a 'diver' does he? If a notorious 'diver' made the same play I can see the card being shown, but probably only a first yellow (which is also not fair because all cards should be awarded on their own merits).
Leicester have received 11 penalties this season, Man City is 2nd with 6. I think they might go down a little easy in the box...
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Makes sense, I mean Vardy is such a wee lad of course he's getting tossed about the pitch.
As for that last phrase, we are still talking football... right?
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That's the softest 2+ games missed in the history of soccer. New Retired has it right... whole thing smells to the heavens.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Vardy called a guy a *** at a casino. He wasn't involved in the Thai brothel nonsense.
Yeah, I was just talking in general terms of why the FA may be conspiring against Leicester's dream season all of a sudden...
El Floppo
Footballguy
this is spot on. Vardy got punished because LC were fouling repeatedly just prior... nothing in that particular challenge to warrant a yellow, IMO, and it wasn't Vardy himself persistently fouling or getting warned for it. there were lots of worse challenges in that game that didn't get booked.
that call was far worse than the dive- and I do think it was a dive/simulation. he changed his own direction to initiate contact instead of just continuing his run directly to the ball. yes, there was contact, but it wasn't the defender creating it. and then his swan dive after- terrible. but that should've been his first yellow. that ref was an inconsistent mess, IMO- let a lot of #### go and then brought out the yellows almost haphazardly. not saying some of those yellows didn't deserve the card, but given the laissez-faire manner in which he handled things some times... just seemed inconsistent, which is the worse thing a ref can be, IMO.
Swansea is an automatic for the Red card.
A second game for misconduct seems inevitable once he is charged - he really has no defense.
El Floppo
Footballguy
and btw- I mentioned this last week or before, about how LC always seem to be defending for their lives, which puts them apparently on the back foot. that linked article or articles talking about how they're built to absorb the crosses in... I guess I understood it. but it still leaves me with a taste of- anybody can beat them if they can get the right cross in or have the right moment of skill to beat the guy on the inside. IMO, they're just as likely to lose all of these games as get 9 points.... with or without Vardy.
El Floppo
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
The FA could overturn the red meaning no ban, then give a game for the misconduct charge leaving him out the 1 game..... and avail for the matchup with United.
gianmarco
Footballguy
"This is from a poster who has a history of doing this, so it should be a surprise to absolutely nobody. And when you look at it, if you are a human being, you will realize that that is not acceptable. And it’s not acceptable in 2016. Quite honestly, it’s never been acceptable."
B Maverick
Footballguy
Hmm interesting. Thought I saw one get overturned on appeal but maybe it was a straight red. In that case
no Vardy vs United?
The Gator
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
MLS is typically stricter with suspensions than other leagues.
De Jong got only 3 games for trying to end Nagbe's career (De Jong some how did not get a red on that play).
It puts a 2 game suspension for Vardy in perspective.
A second game seems a real stretch to me and I am someone who abhors diving.
De Jong got only 3 games for trying to end Nagbe's career (De Jong some how did not get a red on that play).
It puts a 2 game suspension for Vardy in perspective.
A second game seems a real stretch to me and I am someone who abhors diving.
El Floppo
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
seemed light to me. I hope that the fact that Nagbe was not seriously injured did not affect their judgement.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3542852/Nigel-Jong-handed-three-game-suspension-following-horror-tackle-Darlington-Nagbe.html
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
It is unseemly for an Arsenal fan to feel the way I do about Harry Kane. The love that dare not speak its name.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Rose should have seen red.
jonessed
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
He was touched inside the box and went down easily, with no PK called. Obvious yellow. Plus he looked at the ref sideways afterward. Clear sending off IMO.
gianmarco
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Like these Tottenham jerseys.
