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roadkill1292 said:
The Liverpool injuries (Lallana and Hendo) and travel situations (Firmino and Coutinho) could make the derby this weekend more of a fitty-fitty deal than it's been lately.

Virgil van Dijk now pretty much called for the rest of the season. The Guardian is running the rumor that Chelsea is preparing the winning bid for him this summer (to do what, replace Cahill? I dunno, maybe) but my money is still on ManU with all the money they're going to save by Barcelona not selling them Neymar.
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This international break has been a source of all sorts of crazy rumor goodness.  A bigtime ManU fan at work says that the only rumor take seriously for them is the Griezmann rumor.

 
roadkill1292 said:
The Liverpool injuries (Lallana and Hendo) and travel situations (Firmino and Coutinho) could make the derby this weekend more of a fitty-fitty deal than it's been lately.

Virgil van Dijk now pretty much called for the rest of the season. The Guardian is running the rumor that Chelsea is preparing the winning bid for him this summer (to do what, replace Cahill? I dunno, maybe) but my money is still on ManU with all the money they're going to save by Barcelona not selling them Neymar.
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Firmino and Coutinho have 2 full days of practice with the team, but I do wonder about how fresh they will be.

Everton has a worse injury situation than Liverpool, but neither are in great shape.  Liverpool are gonna have to learn to deal without henderson and I don't see him coming back this season.

 
:censored:  United no shots on goal in the first half?  No goals in a 0-0 draw where you had 90 mins of the ball?  Mkhi denied, Rashford denied... Carrick looking poor and conservative with his passing.  And Jose goes with the DM Cross till you cant cross no more tactic vs the best aerial defenders in the EPL?.  Only real surprise was Young at LB.  Shaw is no more.

Another draw at home.  And Everton coming in tomorrow.  Zlatan and Herrera back.  Waiting on Pogba news.

Gone in the summer - Shaw, Rooney, Carrick....

 
B Maverick said:
:censored:  United no shots on goal in the first half?  No goals in a 0-0 draw where you had 90 mins of the ball?  Mkhi denied, Rashford denied... Carrick looking poor and conservative with his passing.  And Jose goes with the DM Cross till you cant cross no more tactic vs the best aerial defenders in the EPL?.  Only real surprise was Young at LB.  Shaw is no more.

Another draw at home.  And Everton coming in tomorrow.  Zlatan and Herrera back.  Waiting on Pogba news.

Gone in the summer - Shaw, Rooney, Carrick....
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Mourinho made some interesting comments the other day.  Basically said that the team is obviously going all out tomorrow and at the weekend...but that if things start going bad, he will have to consider playing his "A team" in Europe and resting them for the EPL.  

From a LIV perspective, I'm still the most concerned with Arsenal, as crazy as that sounds.  They have 4 relatively easy games in a row.  Traditionally, they are a team that slays the bottom end team.  Liverpool, while in solid shape, are seeing injuries pile up. Henderson, Lallana, and now Mane.  8 games left for LFC with all of them against teams outside of the top 7.  But not an LFC fan in the world feels confident.  

Should be a fun run in.

As for United, I didn't get a chance to watch their game this past weekend, but I'm floored by the continued offensive ineptitude.  Even with the injuries they had, Rashford and Martial were considered to be future superstars of the game at the end of last season.  They haven't really done a thing this year.  That's surprising to me.

 
shader said:
Mourinho made some interesting comments the other day.  Basically said that the team is obviously going all out tomorrow and at the weekend...but that if things start going bad, he will have to consider playing his "A team" in Europe and resting them for the EPL.  

From a LIV perspective, I'm still the most concerned with Arsenal, as crazy as that sounds.  They have 4 relatively easy games in a row.  Traditionally, they are a team that slays the bottom end team.  Liverpool, while in solid shape, are seeing injuries pile up. Henderson, Lallana, and now Mane.  8 games left for LFC with all of them against teams outside of the top 7.  But not an LFC fan in the world feels confident.  

Should be a fun run in.

As for United, I didn't get a chance to watch their game this past weekend, but I'm floored by the continued offensive ineptitude.  Even with the injuries they had, Rashford and Martial were considered to be future superstars of the game at the end of last season.  They haven't really done a thing this year.  That's surprising to me.
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Martial and Rashford have been so in and out of the lineup they haven't got the run to build on.  A good game out of either and they still find themselves on the bench the next day.  However this last game all the creativity in MF was gone.  No Pogba, No Herrera, No Mata.  Carrick and Mkhi were both poor and everyone looked like they were trying to be too fancy.  Lingard has no vision and no discipline in the team and I think that caused some issues.  Couple times he got in the way of others trying to be the dominant player in MF.  Fellaini was actually solid and played the ball around nicely.  Can't fault the game on him.  Mkhi missed a great chance when he got in on the keeper.  Keeper made some nice saves on Rashford.

United do play everyone in the top 7 except Liverpool.  Chelsea and Everton are home games for United with City, Arsenal, Tottenham on the road.  They do have 2 games in hand too (as does Arsenal).  Will keep the top 4 hopes alive having to play the other contenders.  But Europa may be the best bet to get in.

 
NewlyRetired said:
A rare and interesting Friday night nationally televised double header in MLS tonight.  Both games on FS1

KC @ Toronto (home opener)

Atlanta @ Seattle
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I watched MN United vs REAL Salt Lake on Saturday.  Really frustrating watching MN give up goals in the first 10 minutes every week.  Glad there is no relegation in MLS.

 
shader said:
Mourinho made some interesting comments the other day.  Basically said that the team is obviously going all out tomorrow and at the weekend...but that if things start going bad, he will have to consider playing his "A team" in Europe and resting them for the EPL.  

From a LIV perspective, I'm still the most concerned with Arsenal, as crazy as that sounds.  They have 4 relatively easy games in a row.  Traditionally, they are a team that slays the bottom end team.  Liverpool, while in solid shape, are seeing injuries pile up. Henderson, Lallana, and now Mane.  8 games left for LFC with all of them against teams outside of the top 7.  But not an LFC fan in the world feels confident.  

Should be a fun run in.

As for United, I didn't get a chance to watch their game this past weekend, but I'm floored by the continued offensive ineptitude.  Even with the injuries they had, Rashford and Martial were considered to be future superstars of the game at the end of last season.  They haven't really done a thing this year.  That's surprising to me.
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It looks like a full slate of PL games tomorrow and Wednesday, then again this weekend. Its getting to squeaky bum time for the league. The table is a bit awkward where LFC is the only team in the top 6 that has played 30, United only 28. I'm going to scramble a bit today and tomorrow to see if I can arrange an afternoon off on Wednesday. Chelsea and CIty both with everything to play for, so there's potential for a great game.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
It looks like a full slate of PL games tomorrow and Wednesday, then again this weekend. Its getting to squeaky bum time for the league. The table is a bit awkward where LFC is the only team in the top 6 that has played 30, United only 28. I'm going to scramble a bit today and tomorrow to see if I can arrange an afternoon off on Wednesday. Chelsea and CIty both with everything to play for, so there's potential for a great game.
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When you look at it, ANY team in the top 6 will find their situation change dramatically with 2 draws or losses in a row over the next 4-5 days.  

Chelsea are probably ok...but if a team like Tottenham could actually run the table, which is a tough ask, they could be in trouble.

Chelsea can close it all out over the next week. But if City beat them, I think it will officially start getting very interesting.

 
shader said:
When you look at it, ANY team in the top 6 will find their situation change dramatically with 2 draws or losses in a row over the next 4-5 days.  

Chelsea are probably ok...but if a team like Tottenham could actually run the table, which is a tough ask, they could be in trouble.

Chelsea can close it all out over the next week. But if City beat them, I think it will officially start getting very interesting.
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Of course the circumstances are much different, but last year at this time Leicester City had a 7 point lead over Spurs and the question everyone was asking was, "can they possibly with this thing?"

 
What's the best 2/3 drills/practices/moves that I can have my 8 year old do get better at soccer.  He likes to play soccer, but he has slow feet and is clumsy at times.

I thought about buying him a footbag.

 
rascal said:
What's the best 2/3 drills/practices/moves that I can have my 8 year old do get better at soccer.  He likes to play soccer, but he has slow feet and is clumsy at times.

I thought about buying him a footbag.
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Probably best answered by others, but my experience is that most any time with the ball outside of his practices is a positive. If he's out in the yard with a friend or two and a soccer ball, I count it as good time no matter what they are doing. The key thing will be if he's doing it of his own accord or whether its only when you drag his butt out there. My neighbor has wasted countless hours setting up cones in his yard, buying goals, rebounders, taking his kid (and mine) to the park, essentially forcing him to play, and I think he just burned his kid out. I long ago gave up trying to get my kid to practice on his own, but if he ever asks me to go kick around with him, I'm there (for what its worth).  All that said, juggling, kick against the wall, draw a square on the wall and shoot at it, all manner of touches are time well spent.

 
Hackysack teaches a pretty unnatural way of keeping a soccer ball in the air.  Obviously, it will improve coordination, but trying to juggle an actual ball (which I can't do for ****) is probably better.  Even then, I sometimes wonder if a focus on "keepy uppy" means that we aren't teaching kids to have a productive first touch.  The aim, after all, isn't to keep the ball up.  It's to bring it down under control where you want it. 

I did have my first kick around with a 2 year old Scrappygang two weekend ago.  He's still a bit dicey on the whole "kick the ball" versus "pick up the ball and run someplace random" thing, but he got in a few dribbles.  He mostly enjoyed chasing me around as I eluded him with the world's slowest stepovers.  :fatRonaldo:

 
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Good stuff.

Lots of touches on a ball... With intent. Loved Kruyfs drills (Google them). Also loved juggling... again, with intent.

Mo touches, mo skills.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Hackysack teaches a pretty unnatural way of keeping a soccer ball in the air.  Obviously, it will improve coordination, but trying to juggle an actual ball (which I can't do for ****) is probably better.  Even then, I sometimes wonder if a focus on "keepy uppy" means that we aren't teaching kids to have a productive first touch.  The aim, after all, isn't to keep the ball up.  It's to bring it down under control where you want it. 

I did have my first kick around with a 2 year old Scrappygang two weekend ago.  He's still a bit dicey on the whole "kick the ball" versus "pick up the ball and run someplace random" thing, but he got in a few dribbles.  He mostly enjoyed chasing me around as I eluded him with the world's slowest stepovers.  :fatRonaldo:
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Oh, right... No Hackysack. Totally different skill.

 
rascal said:
What's the best 2/3 drills/practices/moves that I can have my 8 year old do get better at soccer.  He likes to play soccer, but he has slow feet and is clumsy at times.

I thought about buying him a footbag.
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https://youtu.be/4s0M0mtuBnc

He can start there and do that until he does 1k in 10min. Excellent starting point as that ball control and those touches very important. It's very simple and he can do it in a 5x5 area. 

Once he's got the 1k/10min down. Start 2k, 20min and so on. 

 
rascal said:
What's the best 2/3 drills/practices/moves that I can have my 8 year old do get better at soccer.  He likes to play soccer, but he has slow feet and is clumsy at times.

I thought about buying him a footbag.
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As a newly certified U6 coach I feel eminently unqualified to answer this  :grad:

The real answer is touch the ball a lot.  Start with bottom of the foot touches on the ball for balance and then go in a circle around the ball.  Then dribble the ball a ton.  Proper Messi form of course with the laces and foot pointing toward the ground (it's actually important since it keeps the hips square and lets them run faster).  Start with them walking and then speed them running.  Ideally they are touching the ball every step...as they get faster this gets harder.  Change feet. Incoporate stopping the ball.  

Once they can control the ball, incoporate change of directions which are done with the inside or outside of the foot.  Set up an obstance course with cones, etc. 

In all seriousness, if balance is the problem, do a bunch of the simple standing and touching the ball exercises.  They are sort of boring, so do them with your kid and make it a game in some manner, but they are great for improving balance and learning how your foot moves the ball. 

Edit: what @Gator posted

 
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CGRdrJoe said:
HI GB this seems neat but you locked sheet 1, do you have instructions in Spanish on how to unlock it?
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Download it, you should be able to edit the score cells and nothing else

if that doesn't work for you, go to the review tab in the ribbon. Click unlock sheet. There is no password.

ETA: did I forget to give download permissions?

 
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rascal said:
What's the best 2/3 drills/practices/moves that I can have my 8 year old do get better at soccer.  He likes to play soccer, but he has slow feet and is clumsy at times.

I thought about buying him a footbag.
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Juggle the ball using left and right feet, and try to avoid using thighs unless it's to calm the ball.  Youtube has videos to get him started.  You can do it just about anywhere and it really improves that first touch of the ball, coordination, use of both feet, etc.  Give him little rewards if he reaches 10, 25, 100.  It will make him a better player 

 
 


 


GP


W


D


L


F


A


GD


PTS


1


Chelsea


38


30


4


4


81


28


53


94


2


Tottenham


38


24


11


3


73


27


46


83


3


Manchester City


38


24


9


5


79


39


40


81


4


Liverpool


38


22


10


6


88


50


38


76


5


Arsenal


37


20


10


7


77


45


32


70


6


Manchester United


37


17


14


6


52


33


19


65





This is what I came up with :unsure:  

 
The Gator said:
 


 


GP


W


D


L


F


A


GD


PTS


1


Chelsea


38


30


4


4


81


28


53


94


2


Tottenham


38


24


11


3


73


27


46


83


3


Manchester City


38


24


9


5


79


39


40


81


4


Liverpool


38


22


10


6


88


50


38


76


5


Arsenal


37


20


10


7


77


45


32


70


6


Manchester United


37


17


14


6


52


33


19


65





This is what I came up with :unsure:  
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I got similar order, if you flip Man Utd and Arsenal, but much closer in points.

 
NewlyRetired said:
At least they got their first win.  Their defense is atrocious.  Rameriz has been very good though.
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The Loons are playing rope-a-dope. They will soon unleash White Lightning and take the league by storm. Gatt will crush every record this league has ever seen. Mark it, dude. 

 
        GP     W    D    L     F     A     GD    PTS
Liverpool   38    25    8    5     72    37    35    83
Chelsea     38    22    5    11    60    30    30    71
Tottenham   38    18    10   10    57    28    29    64
City        38    17    9    12    56    39    17    60
United      38    14    15    9    42    29    13    57
Arsenal     38    15    8    15    58    44    14    53


Debated giving Chelsea a point at Sunderland, so this might be slightly off.  But not worth quibbling about in the big picture. 

 
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I for one am happy over this news, BMav am I right :excited:

:towelwave:  

Jose Mourinho is to recommend a contract extension for Marouane Fellaini to the Manchester United board when the Old Trafford manager finalises his plans for summer rebuilding, sources have told ESPN FC.

 
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