Ramsay Hunt Experience
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I like Messi assists even more than Messi goals. He's making City look like a U12 team.
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NewlyRetired
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Rumors continue to swirl that Eddie Johnson may have to retire based on what ever medical condition he is fighting.
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The Gator
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Soulfly3
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roadkill1292
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
Yeah, Barça was making City look silly. They should have had 3 goals.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
So, can we put to rest the idea that the EPL is the best league in the world now? They have really sucked in CL play for a while now.
Please list the reasons why it's the "best" league in the world.
Please list the reasons why it's the "best" league in the world.
bentley
Footballguy
Because EPL fans don't go over the top powerdouche every time something happens in the CL like certain La Liga and Bundesliga homers do?
Sebowski
Footballguy
March telling the keeper which way Aguero is going to kick the pk
https://twitter.com/RoyNemer/status/578325049565921280/photo/1
https://twitter.com/RoyNemer/status/578325049565921280/photo/1
Sebowski
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The Gator
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it? 
After all, some people like ACC football most of all.
After all, some people like ACC football most of all.Sure, you like what you like. Just don't pretend it is the best.It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Nice result by Montreal tonight. 2-0 at home puts them in a decent spot for the away leg.
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Oh and for US Nats fans, I have no idea what rock this kid crawled out from under but Cameron Porter is a player. He is the kid that scored the wonderful late goal to put Montreal through to the semi finals after having 9 minutes of pro experience.
He got the start tonight and was beyond a handful. He appears to have more moxie and confidence than you would think a kid with almost no pedigree and a late draft pick would have. He is big and strong, with two really good feet and he is 21. I can't wait to see if this is a fluke or the start of something lasting.
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Oh and for US Nats fans, I have no idea what rock this kid crawled out from under but Cameron Porter is a player. He is the kid that scored the wonderful late goal to put Montreal through to the semi finals after having 9 minutes of pro experience.
He got the start tonight and was beyond a handful. He appears to have more moxie and confidence than you would think a kid with almost no pedigree and a late draft pick would have. He is big and strong, with two really good feet and he is 21. I can't wait to see if this is a fluke or the start of something lasting.
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Sebowski
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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I have still not found anyone in this thread or the previous thread who has ever claimed that the BPL is the best league.Sure, you like what you like. Just don't pretend it is the best.It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it?
Z is my buddy, but I have no idea who he's talking about.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Sure, you like what you like. Just don't pretend it is the best.It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
@BrianStraus: Cameron Porter doesn't look much like a guy picked 45th in the draft who had 33 minutes of pro experience at kickoff. Fearless, inventive.
@Jrodius: So tomorrow who is writing the "Porter proves college soccer is still necessary" piece?
@JohnMolinaro: Impact rookie Cameron Porter looks to be a bit of a player. Been very good tonight. #IMFC
@davisjsn: Everyone is in love with Cameron Porter right now, right?
@ThatDamnYank: Love Cameron Porter's game.
@BrianSciaretta: Cameron Porter is looking like the steal of the MLS draft. He is raising his level in #CCL. I would love to see him with the US U-23s.
@KevinKCBS3: I love what Cameron Porter is doing, taking on defenders and basically just "trying s@#!", as Ben Olsen would say
@andrew_wiebe: Cameron Porter on the dribble? Cameron Porter on the dribble.
Good in hold up and pressure, too.
@JozyAltidore: Porter ??
@Jrodius: So tomorrow who is writing the "Porter proves college soccer is still necessary" piece?
@JohnMolinaro: Impact rookie Cameron Porter looks to be a bit of a player. Been very good tonight. #IMFC
@davisjsn: Everyone is in love with Cameron Porter right now, right?
@ThatDamnYank: Love Cameron Porter's game.
@BrianSciaretta: Cameron Porter is looking like the steal of the MLS draft. He is raising his level in #CCL. I would love to see him with the US U-23s.
@KevinKCBS3: I love what Cameron Porter is doing, taking on defenders and basically just "trying s@#!", as Ben Olsen would say
@andrew_wiebe: Cameron Porter on the dribble? Cameron Porter on the dribble.
Good in hold up and pressure, too.
@JozyAltidore: Porter ??
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Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Premier League will be in danger of losing its 4th CL spot in 2-3 years if its recent struggles continue.
Serie A has Juventus in the CL plus 5 teams left in Europa and could put up a big coefficient this year. It's a rolling 5-year average and Italy had a rough 2010-11 and 11-12, but when those years disappear it could get interesting.
Serie A has Juventus in the CL plus 5 teams left in Europa and could put up a big coefficient this year. It's a rolling 5-year average and Italy had a rough 2010-11 and 11-12, but when those years disappear it could get interesting.
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I'm not sure that La Liga is tougher than the EPL, 1-20. I know it's better 1-3, but 1-20, who knows. The EPL has a ####-ton of money, La Liga (and the Bundesliga) have advantages in terms of homegrown talent.
Spartans Rule
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Prediction: England loses its 4th CL spot for one year only. Spurs finish 4th that year.The Gator said:
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I have a number of friends that I chat with over whatsapp (including my brother) that are huge EPL homers. They never watch any other leagues, but will watch west brom vs. Hull. They annoy the #### out of me, and really I was just looking for more ammunition against them.Ramsay Hunt Experience said:I have still not found anyone in this thread or the previous thread who has ever claimed that the BPL is the best league. Z is my buddy, but I have no idea who he's talking about.Slapdash said:Sure, you like what you like. Just don't pretend it is the best.roadkill1292 said:It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it?
roadkill1292
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I usually catch games from France, Spain and/or Italy every weekend and recognize and enjoy the high quality of play in all of them. But PL is the most entertaining because, well, that is where Southampton's enemies play.I have a number of friends that I chat with over whatsapp (including my brother) that are huge EPL homers. They never watch any other leagues, but will watch west brom vs. Hull. They annoy the #### out of me, and really I was just looking for more ammunition against them.Ramsay Hunt Experience said:I have still not found anyone in this thread or the previous thread who has ever claimed that the BPL is the best league.Z is my buddy, but I have no idea who he's talking about.Slapdash said:Sure, you like what you like. Just don't pretend it is the best.roadkill1292 said:It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it?
roadkill1292
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If the PL struggles continue and the league falls all the way to fourth sometime in the future, will it get a fourth Europa berth?
One could make the argument that La Liga is somewhat squandering the advantage it has in hordes of homegrown talent by not negotiating more equitable revenue sharing and making the league more competitive. It's not just the fact that the same teams dominate the top of the standings -- that pretty much happens in all of the Big Six -- but it's that there are so many uncompetitive games. I read somewhere a while back that PL has the lowest percentage of 3- and 4-game victory margins of all the major Euro leagues. Cutting down on those might help La Liga gain on PL in international popularity, because there is certainly some great footy being played there.
One could make the argument that La Liga is somewhat squandering the advantage it has in hordes of homegrown talent by not negotiating more equitable revenue sharing and making the league more competitive. It's not just the fact that the same teams dominate the top of the standings -- that pretty much happens in all of the Big Six -- but it's that there are so many uncompetitive games. I read somewhere a while back that PL has the lowest percentage of 3- and 4-game victory margins of all the major Euro leagues. Cutting down on those might help La Liga gain on PL in international popularity, because there is certainly some great footy being played there.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I watch Hull/WBA and don't watch Elche versus Eibar. But that has nothing to do with my perceived quality of the leagues. It has to do with the quality of the coverage and my own cultural connection to the league.I have a number of friends that I chat with over whatsapp (including my brother) that are huge EPL homers. They never watch any other leagues, but will watch west brom vs. Hull. They annoy the #### out of me, and really I was just looking for more ammunition against them.Ramsay Hunt Experience said:I have still not found anyone in this thread or the previous thread who has ever claimed that the BPL is the best league. Z is my buddy, but I have no idea who he's talking about.Slapdash said:Sure, you like what you like. Just don't pretend it is the best.roadkill1292 said:It's ok to like PL the most even if it's not the best, isn't it?
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think dynasties help leagues. I don't think Barca and Reals dominance hurts (and I give Atletico full credit for forcing its way into that conversation).
If anything, the EPL is hurt right now because their most established brand, Man U, is down.
If anything, the EPL is hurt right now because their most established brand, Man U, is down.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I have no doubt there is much accuracy in this opinion but I will never understand the thinking of the general public to whom it applies. The consternation of so many when United (not Sheffield, not S####horpe) is down fills my heart with joyous song.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I also think the EPL hurts itself by spending so much on British Isle players. Yeah they have a huge monetary advantage, but a bunch of teams don't fully use it.
Spain (S American and Portugal), Germany (Eastern Europe), Italy (both S America and E Europe) just seem to cast a larger net in scouting players than EPL teams. It's sort of comical the lack of real international players at some of the mid to lower level EPL teams.
Spain (S American and Portugal), Germany (Eastern Europe), Italy (both S America and E Europe) just seem to cast a larger net in scouting players than EPL teams. It's sort of comical the lack of real international players at some of the mid to lower level EPL teams.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
A chief pleasure of watching sports is witnessing greatness. It's whyvit was a bit of a bummer that Messi couldn't get Argentina over the line.
jonessed
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
Everybody likes watching great players. But I'd like to see Messi playing against an Almeria Neymar or Ronaldo against a Sociedad Bale instead of having them all on the same team.
I've never understood the attraction of a stacked team.
shader
Footballguy
Sometimes stuff happens.
Chelsea just crapped the bed against PSG. Man City is playing horrible right now in all competitions. Arsenal seems to go out in the round of 16 every year. Liverpool was a very, very poor team from Sept-Dec, when they got knocked out of the CL.
Overall for the EPL, the chelsea loss really hurts. As a Liverpool fan, it's a shame we couldn't beat Basel because I'd love to see this current team in the CL.
Chelsea just crapped the bed against PSG. Man City is playing horrible right now in all competitions. Arsenal seems to go out in the round of 16 every year. Liverpool was a very, very poor team from Sept-Dec, when they got knocked out of the CL.
Overall for the EPL, the chelsea loss really hurts. As a Liverpool fan, it's a shame we couldn't beat Basel because I'd love to see this current team in the CL.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This is sad. They were one of my favorite teams in the early to mid 90's
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Serie A club Parma declared bankrupt by Italian court
AP
PARMA, Italy -- Crisis-hit Serie A club Parma was declared bankrupt by an Italian court Thursday with estimated debts of nearly 100 million euros ($110 million).
The hearing in Parma was uncontested and lasted only 10 minutes in front of judge Pietro Rogato.
Parma's new owner and president, Giampietro Manenti, was not present following his arrest the previous day on charges of money laundering and embezzlement.
Local receivers Angelo Anedda and Alberto Guoiotto were appointed to oversee the proceedings.
''We have spoken with the staff and we will meet the squad later in the afternoon,'' said Osvaldo Riccobene, a representative of the board of auditors. ''We will try to keep the true values of the club, or rather some of their staff, the players, and we will try to keep also the property value of this club, for the same staff and for the receiver.
''We are in a unique case, there are no precedents. Sunday's match against Torino will be played.''
Parma was once known as the strongest of Italy's provincial teams and where players like Gianluigi Buffon, Fabio Cannavaro and Lilian Thuram became famous.
The team won three European trophies in the 1990s - two UEFA Cups and one Cup Winners' Cup - and was the Serie A runner-up in 1997.
But it is not known whether Parma will be able to finish this season. There is a plan in place with the league's governing body and the Italian football federation to fund the club for the rest of the campaign.
The other Serie A clubs voted this month to give Parma the 5 million euro ($5.5 million) emergency fund after two consecutive league matches were postponed. Players have not been paid for months and the club has been sold twice this season.
Relegation is all but certain as Parma, which has been deducted three points for failing to pay wages, is in last place, 16 points from safety.
Parma has two possible options for the future. If a new owner is found, they will have to pay off the debt - which will be calculated by Anedda and Guoiotto and could drop if agreements are made with various creditors - and Parma could start next season in Serie B.
However, if no one decides to buy Parma, the club would have to restart in the fourth division of Italian football with a new name.
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Serie A club Parma declared bankrupt by Italian court
AP
PARMA, Italy -- Crisis-hit Serie A club Parma was declared bankrupt by an Italian court Thursday with estimated debts of nearly 100 million euros ($110 million).
The hearing in Parma was uncontested and lasted only 10 minutes in front of judge Pietro Rogato.
Parma's new owner and president, Giampietro Manenti, was not present following his arrest the previous day on charges of money laundering and embezzlement.
Local receivers Angelo Anedda and Alberto Guoiotto were appointed to oversee the proceedings.
''We have spoken with the staff and we will meet the squad later in the afternoon,'' said Osvaldo Riccobene, a representative of the board of auditors. ''We will try to keep the true values of the club, or rather some of their staff, the players, and we will try to keep also the property value of this club, for the same staff and for the receiver.
''We are in a unique case, there are no precedents. Sunday's match against Torino will be played.''
Parma was once known as the strongest of Italy's provincial teams and where players like Gianluigi Buffon, Fabio Cannavaro and Lilian Thuram became famous.
The team won three European trophies in the 1990s - two UEFA Cups and one Cup Winners' Cup - and was the Serie A runner-up in 1997.
But it is not known whether Parma will be able to finish this season. There is a plan in place with the league's governing body and the Italian football federation to fund the club for the rest of the campaign.
The other Serie A clubs voted this month to give Parma the 5 million euro ($5.5 million) emergency fund after two consecutive league matches were postponed. Players have not been paid for months and the club has been sold twice this season.
Relegation is all but certain as Parma, which has been deducted three points for failing to pay wages, is in last place, 16 points from safety.
Parma has two possible options for the future. If a new owner is found, they will have to pay off the debt - which will be calculated by Anedda and Guoiotto and could drop if agreements are made with various creditors - and Parma could start next season in Serie B.
However, if no one decides to buy Parma, the club would have to restart in the fourth division of Italian football with a new name.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Speaking of Kane, he received his first England callup today
Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Southampton), Joe Hart (Manchester City).
Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Southampton), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham).
Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham), Theo Walcott (Arsenal).
Forwards: Harry Kane (Tottenham), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal
Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Southampton), Joe Hart (Manchester City).
Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Southampton), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham).
Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham), Theo Walcott (Arsenal).
Forwards: Harry Kane (Tottenham), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal
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From ESPN
FIFA's executive committee has decided that the 2022 World Cup final will be held on Dec. 18, FIFA sources have told Press Association Sport.
FIFA's executive committee has decided that the 2022 World Cup final will be held on Dec. 18, FIFA sources have told Press Association Sport.
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