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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I like going with the tried and true, but the public process they went through to get there is a bit odd in retrospect.
Yeah. Not exactly sure why you would put so much buildup for a bland name with the same colors as the Panthers. Crest is neat though and it was nice the put the "minted" in there as a nod to the supporters club (Mint City Collective).
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The exciting part is the ticket sale deposits. The 25k puts them ahead of Seattle and roughly the same as Atlanta given the time frame.
I have no idea how covid will effect this but if there was no pandemic, those numbers will translate in top of league level attendances next season.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
FWIW, it looks like the MLS bubble is working after Dallas got sent home
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@MikeConti929
MLS has now gone 12 straight days without a positive Covid-19 test among tournament participants. 0 for 1103 today.
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@MikeConti929
MLS has now gone 12 straight days without a positive Covid-19 test among tournament participants. 0 for 1103 today.
El Floppo
Footballguy
MLS is back FC tournament updates.... 6x groups of 4, with top two in each group advancing and next best 4 as well.
Teams that have advanced:
Orlando (!)
Philly
SJ
SEA
Tfc
NE
MONT
SKC
Minnesota (!l
RSL
Columbus
Cincinnati (!)
Portland
Lafc
2 more teams trying to get in with 3 games left and most of the groups finished. Will come down to point totals and GD. NY teams, ATL and Gals are currently out. I think winless ATL is out regardless of the remaining results.
Teams that have advanced:
Orlando (!)
Philly
SJ
SEA
Tfc
NE
MONT
SKC
Minnesota (!l
RSL
Columbus
Cincinnati (!)
Portland
Lafc
2 more teams trying to get in with 3 games left and most of the groups finished. Will come down to point totals and GD. NY teams, ATL and Gals are currently out. I think winless ATL is out regardless of the remaining results.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Ok...VAN now in as the third 3rd place team..
Already qualified POR and LAFC play later, as does HOU vs LA gals. Hou has 1pt and will go through with a win. A tie knocks them both out. LA win puts them at 3pts...not sure what the tie breakers are (they're currently -5gd). NYC sits on 3pts with -2gd.
ETA....VAN went through with 3pts and -2gd).
Already qualified POR and LAFC play later, as does HOU vs LA gals. Hou has 1pt and will go through with a win. A tie knocks them both out. LA win puts them at 3pts...not sure what the tie breakers are (they're currently -5gd). NYC sits on 3pts with -2gd.
ETA....VAN went through with 3pts and -2gd).
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The Gator
Footballguy
I wonder how Sinn feels about Hojbjerg now - since it looks like he is headed to Spurs to fill a gaping hole a DM.
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Sammy3469
Footballguy
That was just a craptaculor match.
They were going for the win. But just...not good.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Seems like a fair chunk of change for Liverpool to pay somebody to take him off their hands.
El Floppo
Footballguy
MLS Remember us, we barely do Cup 2020 round of 16 has been set:
SATURDAY, JULY 25
Orlando City SC vs. Montreal Impact, 5 p.m. PDT (ESPN2)
Philadelphia Union vs. New England Revolution, 7:30 p.m. PDT (ESPN2)
SUNDAY, JULY 26
Toronto FC vs. New York City FC, 5:30 p.m. PDT (FS1)
Sporting Kansas City vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FC, 8 p.m. PDT (FS1)
MONDAY, JULY 27
San Jose Earthquakes vs. Real Salt Lake, 5:30 p.m. PDT (FS1)
Seattle Sounders FC vs. Los Angeles FC, 8 p.m. PDT (FS1)
TUESDAY, JULY 28
Columbus Crew SC vs. Minnesota United FC, 5 p.m. PDT (ESPN)
Portland Timbers vs. FC Cincinnati, 7:30 p.m. PDT (ESPN)
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The quarterfinals will be July 30-Aug. 1, followed by the semifinals Aug. 5-6 and the championship match on Aug. 11.
SATURDAY, JULY 25
Orlando City SC vs. Montreal Impact, 5 p.m. PDT (ESPN2)
Philadelphia Union vs. New England Revolution, 7:30 p.m. PDT (ESPN2)
SUNDAY, JULY 26
Toronto FC vs. New York City FC, 5:30 p.m. PDT (FS1)
Sporting Kansas City vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FC, 8 p.m. PDT (FS1)
MONDAY, JULY 27
San Jose Earthquakes vs. Real Salt Lake, 5:30 p.m. PDT (FS1)
Seattle Sounders FC vs. Los Angeles FC, 8 p.m. PDT (FS1)
TUESDAY, JULY 28
Columbus Crew SC vs. Minnesota United FC, 5 p.m. PDT (ESPN)
Portland Timbers vs. FC Cincinnati, 7:30 p.m. PDT (ESPN)
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The quarterfinals will be July 30-Aug. 1, followed by the semifinals Aug. 5-6 and the championship match on Aug. 11.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Damn, thats going to set a high bar for what United will have to pay someone to take Lingard.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Since when are times announced in left coast time? Add three hours to each for least coast time? This is so weird.
The Gator
Footballguy
Lovren jokes aside, I think its interesting that as dominant as Liverpool were this past season, they also seem to have some built-in advantages heading into next season.
After Sunday, Liverpool can give their players a good 3 weeks off, and come back refreshed for the new season.
Man City are still involved in Champions League which will run until August 23
Man United are still involved with Europa League, which will run until August 21
Chelsea are still involved in FA Cup, and at least 1 more CL game on August 8 - which does not leave much time for a break before a pre-season.
After Sunday, Liverpool can give their players a good 3 weeks off, and come back refreshed for the new season.
Man City are still involved in Champions League which will run until August 23
Man United are still involved with Europa League, which will run until August 21
Chelsea are still involved in FA Cup, and at least 1 more CL game on August 8 - which does not leave much time for a break before a pre-season.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It will be interesting to see if Atlanta returns to a latino coach now that de Boer is gone.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Via the magic of the Internet I'll reply to Floppo's question from the wrong thread in here.
I don't know if FDB was directly responsible but they have let a TON of talent walk out the door the last 2 years. The regression was expected but they started the season well but looked dreadful since the tournament started - granted Josef is still on the shelf and is impossible to replace.
Nagbe, Villaba, Gressel, Meram, LGP and Parkhurst all gone and that's after losing Almiron, Asad the previous year.
There's still talent - Pity and Barco but neither of those guys has made the impact that Josef and Almiron made. Not sure where they go from here but going back to a Latino coach wouldn't surprise me at all.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
[Roger Gonzalez] Hearing Atlanta United will likely focus on South America for its next head coach. Hearing a lot of names, especially that of Ariel Holan. Former Independiente boss won Copa Sudamericana with El Rojo.AAABatteries said:
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I think that was Barco's old coach then.....?
bentley
Footballguy
Or in 2022 since Austin is now the only club joining the league next season. And with 42K deposits. Finally got the chance to get my tickets this week.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Is it first come first serve in terms of who gets a deposit converted into a season ticket in the new stadium or is the Supporter group section handled differently?
bentley
Footballguy
There were three levels of deposits. Premium, supporters and everything else. With good reason, they wanted to make sure that the people in the SS knew what they were in for.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
So are you assured of getting a ticket or will it still depend on how many of the 42k ahead of you make the conversion?
bentley
Footballguy
I had a super early deposit number, so I have my tickets in hand already.
An interesting thing is that the tickets are being allotted by deposit type. They have fewer supporters deposits than the section holds, so you could make a supporters deposit today and get a spot in that section. On the other hand, there are way more general deposits made than general seats available, so some of those folks will go on the waiting list.
bentley
Footballguy
I had a super early deposit number, so I have my tickets in hand already.
An interesting thing is that the tickets are being allotted by deposit type. They have fewer supporters deposits than the section holds, so you could make a supporters deposit today and get a spot in that section. On the other hand, there are way more general deposits made than general seats available, so some of those folks will go on the waiting list.
El Floppo
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
In a turn of events last Tues during the Milan/Sasassulo Match Kicker in Germany came out with a report that Ralf Ragnick and Milan were no longer going to partner up this coming year. Christian Falk then reported the deal was dead and Milan was going to make a public announcement which seemed odd for them since Ragnick was not publicly announced yet. After the 2-1 win for Milan the club announce Pioli had signed a 2 year contract extension Monday night. By Wednesday multiple journalists reported the deal fell through on Ragnick as Ragnick was offered only Technical director and not manager as well and would have to work with Pioli. Ragnick declined as he also wanted to be viewed as the Savior of Milan for not reaching European Football next year but because of Milan's run since the restart (2nd best club in the league since on based on goals and its) Ragnick no longer felt he could come. Also press releasing from publications from Maldini and some others about Ragnick made him turn the deal down.
DJackson10
Footballguy
To add to this Ragnick was not keen on some of Milan's signings like taking Kjaer from his loan and buying him now with their option for 3.5M which is a bargain among some other possible signings. For those who are big football fans and know Chip Kelly it's starting to sound like Ragnick is the European Soccer version of that along with Jurgen Klinnsman.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Well, quite a season end for United. They grab 3rd, qualify for CL and now can just go play for the Europa title without the pressure to need it for CL. Transfer window is open so they can get moving on getting players in and ready for the start of the season, since they will need it with only 3 weeks between the UEL final and the start of the EPL.
Set the record for most PKs in a season
McGuire played every minute of every game
Rashford and Martial each with 17 EPL goals despite missing significant time
Bruno transformed the attack
Needs: RW, Midfield Depth (Attacking MF and DCM), CB (left footed with pace, move McG back to the right CB).
Sell: Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Rojo, Sanchez, Smalling
Set the record for most PKs in a season
McGuire played every minute of every game
Rashford and Martial each with 17 EPL goals despite missing significant time
Bruno transformed the attack
Needs: RW, Midfield Depth (Attacking MF and DCM), CB (left footed with pace, move McG back to the right CB).
Sell: Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Rojo, Sanchez, Smalling
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
Yeah, was reading a review of all of them. 1 definitely shouldn't have been. perhaps 1-2 others were light, but the rest were penalties. But either way that is a lot.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
It was just a coincidence that Bruno seems to go down more than Thai hooker... right?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Agree with all of that but I still think they need a LB. If they can find someone, sell Shaw and give Williams some time to develop.
B Maverick
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
They do need to get CB right. Since the Rio/Vidic partnership there's been a lot of inconsistency there - I think McG can the other guy but they need someone. Lindelof is a good 3rd choice. I'd put 2nd priority DCM - I think we could upgrade on Matic, McT and Fred.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Agreed
reports are that McGuire being right footed is better suited to the other CB position. He and Lindelof are too much of the same type of back, although McG may be better in the air. Get a pacey left footed CB to compliment them, then Lindelof and Bailey can be your 2nd team.
As much as I like McT and Fred and how well they did considering, I don't think either are true holding MFs. Matic showed his shortcomings as the restart went on. He needs someone to give him a rest, someone who can play faster and help open a team up behind Bruno and Pogba (if he stays).
And I do want Sancho, even with the emergence on Greenwood. Being able to rotate Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Sancho and even James through that front 3? Need a break? Get Injured? We have you covered.
Also depth behind Bruno and Pogba will be important. They can't and won't play every game. You need another creative player to come in without losing much in possesion or attack.
