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***OFFICIAL Steelers 2005 draft Warroom*** (1 Viewer)

5 more picks. who d you like?green or browner for cb.am i missing something with OT e brown?j.tuck maybe

 
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would love see us get a road grader in elton brown. another o lineman that i wouldnt mind seeing go to us is ray willis. for CB eric green, stanley wilson are both solid.

 
The Steelers either don't see the need for OL depth that I do, or they're banking that a guy like Chris Kemeoatu is going to be there in round 3....

 
I would have liked Elton Brown too... apparently the Steelers are looking later in the draft for OL depth - they got a receiving threat and a CB. So far, I'd say we're OK, but not great. I am really worried about the line - Simmons and Hartings are one injury away from calling it a career and Starks is a huge ?I was lukewarm on Miller, but he's a better blocker than I gave him credit for, and if they incorporate the TE into the offense (for the first time since Eric Green) -he will help offset the loss of Burress. Could work out to be a great pick, so I am reserving judgment there. McFadden deserved to go before he did in terms of the available CBs - I think he's the 9th or 10th chosen - I had him 7th, so a decent value pick there. Still waiting to see if they address DE and G/C though.....

 
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So far so good.Miller is a damn fine addition and I think they will use him, A LOT. Neither El or Wilson can replace Burress, but in combination with Miller we are far better than last year. Much harder to cover 3 WRs when you have a killer pass-catching TE. McFadden should work into the mix just fine. Start out as a nickel guy, later who knows?Keep it comin' Steelers! :stillers:

 
i know it's early, but i am totaly disapointed with this draft so far.we draft essex who is probably a 5th rounder when elton brown and possibly go fason.they know more than me, but.......

 
i know it's early, but i am totaly disapointed with this draft so far.

we draft essex who is probably a 5th rounder when elton brown and possibly go fason.

they know more than me, but.......
Yeah, I don't understand the Essex thing. I have visions of Jamain Stephens dancing in my head. . .
 
I am not sure how you can be totally disappointed. In the first round the Steelers made a huge upgrade at TE. Tuman is okay but no defensive coordinator ever spent any time worrying about him. Miller looks like he could add a new dimension to the Steelers offense. Decent blocker, too. McFadden is a big, physical CB that will provide some competition with Ricardo Colclough, who hasn't proven yet that he is ready to step it up. I think the Steelers may have stolen one here.I'll admit that Essex might be a reach in the third but he is decent sized and was only drafted for insurance, at least for this year. Apparently the Steelers think he has potential and if Russ Grimm likes him over some of the other lineman left on the board then that is good enough for me.So overall they made a big upgrad at TE, addressed a need in the secondary and added some depth on the o-line. Looks good to me...

 
judging by how far elton brown has fallen, i guess theres a good reason we havent taken him...miller's a solid pick IF THEY USE HIM CORRECTLY. if this is mark bruener part II.... :hot: personally i would have take baas and not looked back - the offensive line is the key to steelers football. i do think miller fits the steelers profile and will contribute in a lot of ways.mcfadden works, a physical athletic CB - although he needs some coaching and development time - stanley wilson or eric green would have also been a solid pick.essex isnt as bad a pick as you might think. he's a tackle, but could also learn the guard position, which we need for depth, and is a vicious run blocker. like starks last year, he could be a much better player than his draft position if we get him motivated and playing up to his physical ability.the final verdict on both mcfadden and essex depends on the job our coaching staff and team does getting through to these kids and getting them motivated.2nd day guys that would make me :excited: Cro Thorpe, WR FSUFred Gibson WR UGAMarion Barber, RB MinnesotaKay Jay Harris, RB WVUChris Canty, DE, UVALorenzo Alexander, DT, CalLance Mitchell ILB OklahomaMike Goolsby ILB NDMarcus Lawrence ILB south carolinaStefan Lefors QB LouisvilleRyan Fitzpatrick QB Harvard

 
well, i'm assuming we are going to be altering our offense a little, as we've never used the TE except as a blocker. i would have preffered baas here.cb was a decent pick.the essex pick may turn out to be ok, but he could have been gotten a round later and we could have done something else with #3.again, just an armchair opinion though.

 
these guys are still here and would be nice

Chris Kemeaotu OG

Antajj Hawthorne DT

Jason Brown C
agreed, especially on kemeaotu - he's a great fit for the steelers offense with his mean streak.
 
Strengths: Excellent pure athletic ability...Tall with a lanky frame and long arms...Good ball skills...Decent speed and plays faster than he times...Explosive and a big play waiting to happen...Also a return man...Still has a lot of potential. Weaknesses: An underachiever who doesn't play up to his talent level...Very inconsistent...Slight frame and needs to add some weight and get stronger...Not very tough or physical...Questionable hands...Poor route runner...Doesn't always give top effort...Durability is a concern. Notes: Also played basketball for the Bulldogs...Has all the talent in the world...Could develop into a star at the next level or continue his underachieving ways...Boom or bust player. another plax maybe?

 
Nice. If he can add some beef to his frame he may work out very well. :thumbup:
even if he doesnt, we can use him exclusively as a deep threat. the problem with pinkston (the best compare to him imo) is that he cant do all the underneath stuff because of his size. we have Ward and ARE for that. not to mention that ward is the perfect WR to teach a kid physicality, and he has the UGA connection to boot.lovin this pick!!!!

 
I have visions of Jamain Stephens dancing in my head. . .
You articulated exactly what I was thinking when I saw that pick. I honestly don't know much about this kid, but every profile I see mentions "lazy", and "out of shape" - doesn't sound like a classic Steelers pick.
 
I have visions of Jamain Stephens dancing in my head. . .
You articulated exactly what I was thinking when I saw that pick. I honestly don't know much about this kid, but every profile I see mentions "lazy", and "out of shape" - doesn't sound like a classic Steelers pick.
at least it wasnt the first round.
 
I was hoping for Gibson or Canty with this pick - can't argue with this one. Gibson is VERY similar to Burress at a glance -narrow frame, tall, fast, but doesn't do too much after the catch and will make the spectacular catch while dropping an easy ball. Looks to me like they replaced Burress with a very similar player.Naturally, Canty goes off the board right after him - would have been a terrific fit as a 3-4 end and might have been the better choice here, but Gibson is a good value pick in round 4.

 
I have visions of Jamain Stephens dancing in my head. . .
You articulated exactly what I was thinking when I saw that pick. I honestly don't know much about this kid, but every profile I see mentions "lazy", and "out of shape" - doesn't sound like a classic Steelers pick.
at least it wasnt the first round.
:thumbup: I'm just curious as to why they chose him this high, unless they know something I don't. Seems to me they could have gotten him in round 5, if so, they could have had Canty and Gibson in addition to Essex. I'm nitpicking here - Essex may well have been a riser I didn't know about and I may end up loving the pick. Just seems like he may not be a guy who can step in and play well right away, like a Baas....

 
I'm just curious as to why they chose him this high, unless they know something I don't. Seems to me they could have gotten him in round 5, if so, they could have had Canty and Gibson in addition to Essex. I'm nitpicking here - Essex may well have been a riser I didn't know about and I may end up loving the pick. Just seems like he may not be a guy who can step in and play well right away, like a Baas....
I haven't talked to anyone whose football opinion I trust who doesn't think he was a large reach. I'd love to be proven wrong. And truthfully, I am really happy about 3 of the first 4 Steelers picks so far, which is better than I can say about the past few drafts. If they keep it up I'm willing to cut some slack for the Essex pick.
 
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Is there a prayer that Kemeaotu falls another 32 picks? 

::holdsbreath::
or kay jay...
Either one would be fine with me :thumbup: , although If I had to throw some money down right now I'd guess KJH will be taken before Kemeaotu.
Listening to Cowher on the video conference yesterday seemed to indicate that he is very satisfied with the RB situation going into next year. I think they may be waiting until next year to draft an RB unless they feel the value is too great to pass someone up in the next round or two.
 
I gotta say I'm shocked Anttaj Hawthorne is still out there. Did he really fall this far based on a positive test for marijuana? Didn't hurt Sapp that much. Someone is going to get a bonafide steal with this guy - too bad there's really no fit for him in Pittsburgh - seems like he'd really only be useful as a NT in the 3-4.

 
if they are going D-line, i would like to see it be lorenzo alexander.i would LOVE to see a lance mitchell pick. he was only the leader of probably the best defense in college football before his torn ACL. we need some depth at ILB, and he can provide it.kemeaotu, and i will do backflips.

 
if they are going D-line, i would like to see it be lorenzo alexander.

i would LOVE to see a lance mitchell pick. he was only the leader of probably the best defense in college football before his torn ACL. we need some depth at ILB, and he can provide it.

kemeaotu, and i will do backflips.
I agree - I see the remaining needs in order as:OG/OT

ILB

RB

DE/OLB (we always get one of these so I might as well get used to it)

 
if they are going D-line, i would like to see it be lorenzo alexander.

i would LOVE to see a lance mitchell pick. he was only the leader of probably the best defense in college football before his torn ACL. we need some depth at ILB, and he can provide it.

kemeaotu, and i will do backflips.
I agree - I see the remaining needs in order as:OG/OT

ILB

RB

DE/OLB (we always get one of these so I might as well get used to it)
i think james harrison's emergence has kept the DE/OLB pick at bay. sounds like RB might also be not very pressing - but kay jay harris would be a fine pick in the 5th - didnt expect jacobs to go before him.i was just about to say mccune and goolsby would also be tremendous ILB picks, but there goes mccune...

*fingers crossed for kemeaotu, mitchell, alexander, goolsby, or harris*

 
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if they are going D-line, i would like to see it be lorenzo alexander.

i would LOVE to see a lance mitchell pick. he was only the leader of probably the best defense in college football before his torn ACL. we need some depth at ILB, and he can provide it.

kemeaotu, and i will do backflips.
I agree - I see the remaining needs in order as:OG/OT

ILB

RB

DE/OLB (we always get one of these so I might as well get used to it)
i think james harrison's emergence has kept the DE/OLB pick at bay. sounds like RB might also be not very pressing - but kay jay harris would be a fine pick in the 5th - didnt expect jacobs to go before him.i was just about to say mccune and goolsby would also be tremendous ILB picks, but there goes mccune...

*fingers crossed for kemeaotu, mitchell, alexander, goolsby, or harris*
I hope so -- Harrison looks like the real deal at OLB so if we go DE I'd much rather have a guy built for the job than a speedrush 'tweener.5 more picks to go. . . :unsure:

 
McFaddenat the end of rounjd 2 is what i call a STEAL!

Been a FSU fan my whole life, and all i can say about McFadden is.....WATCH OUT!

How can a guy who weighs 190 lbs squat 432 lbs? Thats just absurd!

This kid is a SHUTDOWN corner. Hes VERY tough and physical. One of the best things about him, besides his covering ability, is that hes a great tackler in the open field; a rare trait among a lot of CBs nowadays. Also, due to his size and strength, hes very strong in run support.



He did not allow any TDs his last 2 years at FSU...NOT ONE! This is in the ACC aginst other big-time WRs

He didnt get much recognition/publicity in the draft because he didnt get many INTs...basically because his man was NEVER open!

I will be watching more Steeler games to check up on BMAC..great pickup guys!

 
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