GOO!not a great pick, but not a horrible pick.he's a big mean linebacker who will make hits all over the field. i would have preferred goolsby or mitchell at LB (mitchell is going to be a serious steal for some team), but goo is a nice value here, considering that most had him as a top 10 OLB in this draft.
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Rian Wallace, LB Temple Seems ok, I guess. Seems like we passed on a bunch of players we had a greater need for, though.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Second verse, same as the first...:holdsbreathagain:
He has decent size and probably can play ILB in our scheme right away if he has to -- not a bad pick but I would have preferred seeing us grab another OL.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
My sentiments exactly. A fine value pick, but still would like to see another OL choice. Apparently, DE is not a need as the Steelers see it.
goo could give us the ILB depth we need behind farrior and foote, i think there was a need for an LB - his non stop motor and fercious hitting style is perfect for the ILB position in the 3-4, meeting the RB in the hole and making delayed blitzes at the QB. just dont ask him to cover anyone...also from here on out, there is no rian, there is only goo. if you call him rian, he just might punch you out - he's a little bit of a hothead...
still an intense warrior, and i like to see as many of them as possible in black and gold.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I haven't heard that, but an interesting tidbit....
TheLaw
Footballguy
I had heard scouts/GMs had contacted him about converting to a TE - maybe he isnt drafted - but I doubt he would make it in the NBA - given the recent history of hoopsters converting to TE - its not out of the question. But nothing in Pittsburgh papers on the possibility at all??
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I live in Orlando, so I wouldn't have seen it unless it was buried at the bottom of the front-page article on the FSU or UF spring games.....
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
If they can grab Alexander in round 6-7, that would be a nice pick.Kay-Jay and Kemeoatuaoutueoautu are both still out there?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Supposedly the Steelers talked with Troutman and he said he wasn't interested in playing football right now. The fact that the Steelers have 5 TEs (including Miller), I think it is extremely unlikely they'll use a draft pick just in case Troutman changes his mind.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
6th pick: Chris Kemoeatu!!!This looks like an outstanding draft!
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I am LOVING this draft!
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
:giantexhale:
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Kiper just said not to be surprised to see the Steelers try Kemoeatu at nose tackle. Considering the Steelers have Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke at NT, I would be SHOCKED to see the Steelers move him to the D-line. And I love Golic's story about Kemoeatu getting thrown out of two games for kicking an opponent!!!
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Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Sooooo late to the party...
Some thoughts on the draft so far.
1. Heath Miller - - Love the pick. We keep hearing how he's a marginal blocker, yet the highlights shown during coverage show Heath manhandling Shawne Merriman during the MD-UVa game. He was the primary receiving target at UVa the last couple years, hence he wasn't asked to block much. He'll be fine there. He's got every opportunity to be as good as Heap or Witten.
2. McFadden - excellent choice at the end of RD2. Lots of CBs selected ahead of him will not have as good of NFL careers as McFadden. There was excellent CB value in this draft and I'm glad the Stillers waited until RD2.
3. Essex -
- Who knows. What I do know is Northwestern had an EXCELLENT run blocking OL this past year and Essex was a big part of that. Given his height and speed, he's probably destined to play inside at OG. I think Komeatu (sp?) is falling due to anger management issues (Possibly a Turley-like career with many ups and downs in this area).
4. Fred Gibson - As far as Gibson is concerned, I'm not very happy with this selection. Gibson hears footsteps when the waterboy is re-filling the Gatorade jug. J.R. Russell of Louisville is still on the board and will be a better pro, IMO.
5. Rian Wallace - Judging on his size, 6'2" 241 - there's a possibility the Stillers drafted him as an ILB. I'm crying in my proverbial that Robert McCune was taken 12 slots earlier. Given a choice between Wallace and Lance Mitchell of Oklahoma, I'd have been much happier with Mitchell as an ILB.
If Goo is to stay outside, I don't see another OLB I would have taken ahead of him. Although in classic Steeler drafting form, I might have looked for the small college DE to convert to a OLB, namely John Jackson of Oklahoma and James Goddard of Marshall. Boty could have been had in the 6th of 7th.
6. Chris Komoeatu - - Major hot-head who also happens to be a monster on the field.
Upcoming picks @ #7a & #7b....
2 RBs - KayJay Harris or Lionel Gates (Harris would be dreamy).
WR - Again, J.R. Russell would be a GREAT pick, even with Gibson on board. At 6'3" 210, he's a great guy over the middle with play-making skills.
OC - Ben Wilkerson (injury concerns) was talked of as an early RD2 caliber talent.
DE - Jim Davis (VaTech) - He's can be a classic 3-4 DE in the mold of Aaron Smith.
FS - Remember this name - Patrick Body.
Looking at that list, I'd rank them:
1. KayJay Harris
2. Jim Davis
3. J.R. Russell
If we could land Jim Davis and one of those two skill players, I'll call this a very nice draft for a team that's looking for depth in a lot of places.
Some thoughts on the draft so far.
1. Heath Miller -
- Love the pick. We keep hearing how he's a marginal blocker, yet the highlights shown during coverage show Heath manhandling Shawne Merriman during the MD-UVa game. He was the primary receiving target at UVa the last couple years, hence he wasn't asked to block much. He'll be fine there. He's got every opportunity to be as good as Heap or Witten.2. McFadden - excellent choice at the end of RD2. Lots of CBs selected ahead of him will not have as good of NFL careers as McFadden. There was excellent CB value in this draft and I'm glad the Stillers waited until RD2.
3. Essex -
- Who knows. What I do know is Northwestern had an EXCELLENT run blocking OL this past year and Essex was a big part of that. Given his height and speed, he's probably destined to play inside at OG. I think Komeatu (sp?) is falling due to anger management issues (Possibly a Turley-like career with many ups and downs in this area).4. Fred Gibson - As far as Gibson is concerned, I'm not very happy with this selection. Gibson hears footsteps when the waterboy is re-filling the Gatorade jug. J.R. Russell of Louisville is still on the board and will be a better pro, IMO.
5. Rian Wallace - Judging on his size, 6'2" 241 - there's a possibility the Stillers drafted him as an ILB. I'm crying in my proverbial
that Robert McCune was taken 12 slots earlier. Given a choice between Wallace and Lance Mitchell of Oklahoma, I'd have been much happier with Mitchell as an ILB.If Goo is to stay outside, I don't see another OLB I would have taken ahead of him. Although in classic Steeler drafting form, I might have looked for the small college DE to convert to a OLB, namely John Jackson of Oklahoma and James Goddard of Marshall. Boty could have been had in the 6th of 7th.
6. Chris Komoeatu -
- Major hot-head who also happens to be a monster on the field.Upcoming picks @ #7a & #7b....
2 RBs - KayJay Harris or Lionel Gates (Harris would be dreamy).
WR - Again, J.R. Russell would be a GREAT pick, even with Gibson on board. At 6'3" 210, he's a great guy over the middle with play-making skills.
OC - Ben Wilkerson (injury concerns) was talked of as an early RD2 caliber talent.
DE - Jim Davis (VaTech) - He's can be a classic 3-4 DE in the mold of Aaron Smith.
FS - Remember this name - Patrick Body.
Looking at that list, I'd rank them:
1. KayJay Harris
2. Jim Davis
3. J.R. Russell
If we could land Jim Davis and one of those two skill players, I'll call this a very nice draft for a team that's looking for depth in a lot of places.
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Nice picking, gents! :stillers:
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Watch HOU steal Davis one pick ahead of PIT in the 7th....EDIT - Nope... Let's see if the Stillers and I are on the same wavelength...
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Shaun Who-a?
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Anyone know anything about this guy? Other than a knee injury and the fact that he is 6-5 270, I can't seem to find any worthwhile info on this guy.Shaun Who-a?
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Shaun Who-a?
EXACTLY!!!I'm a bit of a college football freak & have no idea who this is! Right position, wrong name. 
Same reaction I had. He did visit the team a couple of weeks ago but I don't know much at all about him.Nua Visits Steelers (Scroll Down To The Bottom)Shaun Who-a?
BYU Spotlight Article on Nua
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I am thrilled with the Kemoeatu pick in round 6 - never heard of Nua in my life.Anyone else think Harris or T.A. McLendon might be a good way to round this draft out at 7b?
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Crossing my fingers for Harris with 7B (but then again, I've been hoping we'd take him since round 4, so....)
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Harris -
McClendon - 
Harris or J.R. Russell are my hopes
The Steelers have added a few Memphis players over the last couple of years, and there are a couple of guys who aren't bad that didn't get drafted:
Albert Means
Robert Douglas
If Means has really matured (and it certainly looked like he had this season) he could make the switch to DE in a 3-4.
Albert Means
Robert Douglas
If Means has really matured (and it certainly looked like he had this season) he could make the switch to DE in a 3-4.
Douglas article text:
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
IS V Haynes UFA or RFA this year? I'd think that if this new guy works out that the writing is on the wall for Verron.edit typo
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
He was an RFA -- he signed a 1 year tender a few weeks ago at the minimum for his experience level, I believe. He will be a UFA at the end of this season.Haynes Signs Tender
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steelerfan1
Footballguy
although it is early to tell, i am a lot more pleased today than i was saturday.
still scratching my head with the essex pick, but getting the mad man in round 6 made up for it a little.
anyone think we should try to sign brandon browner?
a month or so ago they had him in the 2nd round. don't know what happened?
still a little surprised we didn't really addres the d-line though.
still scratching my head with the essex pick, but getting the mad man in round 6 made up for it a little.
anyone think we should try to sign brandon browner?
a month or so ago they had him in the 2nd round. don't know what happened?
still a little surprised we didn't really addres the d-line though.
Steelers Undrafted Free Agents....(list from Great Blue North; bio's from CNNSI)Zach Tuiasosopo Grade: 3.43 Position: FB Class: Sr School: Washington Conference: Pac-10 Ht., Wt.: 6-1.5, 249 40 Time: 5.07 BIO: Three-year starter at fullback who saw extensive action at linebacker as a freshman. Broke his leg during the third game of his senior campaign and finished the year with 5/62 on the ground. All-Conference selection as a junior after 29/87/2 carrying the ball with 11/132 as a pass catcher. Pleaded guilty to malicious mischief in April 2003 after breaking several car windows while under the influence.POSITIVES: Nice-sized fullback with possibilities as a triple-threat player. Quick off the snap, blocks with leverage and strong at the point of attack. Displays good blocking vision, has a nasty attitude and always looking for someone to hit. Jolts opponents at the point and finishes blocks. Solid receiver out of the backfield and does a good job carrying the ball.NEGATIVES: Must concentrate and play under control for 60 minutes. Marginally productive handling the ball in college.ANALYSIS: One of the better lead blockers in this draft, Tuiasosopo offers a good degree of upside potential for the next level. Must remain healthy and keep himself focused on the task at hand yet could be a very productive player at the next level for a long time to come.PROJECTION: Late Fifth Round Tavaris Capers Position: WR Class: School: UCF Conference: MAC Ht., Wt.: 5-9, 165Nate Washington Position: WR Class: School: Tiffin Conference: Division II Ht., Wt.: 6-0, 175Morgan Davis Grade: 3.46 Position: OT Class: Sr School: Wisconsin Conference: Big Ten Ht., Wt.: 6-6, 320 40 Time: 5.41 BIO: Starting tackle the past two seasons. Began his career as a reserve while also playing special teams.POSITIVES: Patient, finesse blocker who flashes power. Quick into run blocks, fights hard and seals defenders from the action. Stays square, does not overextend and blocks with leverage. Intelligent, immediately picks up assignments and keeps his feet moving throughout the action. Strong at the point, controls opponents once engaged in the block and easily rides them from their angle of attack.NEGATIVES: Lacks footwork and range sliding off the edge and not effective in motion. Bends at the waist and must make better use of blocking angles. Stands to improve the strength of his base.ANALYSIS: A hard-working lineman with size and growth potential, Davis is best in a small area on the strong side. A marginal athlete, he will be effective at the next level in a blocking scheme that reduces his area responsibilities and confines him to closed quarters.PROJECTION: Late Fifth Round Ronald Stanley Grade: 3.25 Position: ILB Class: Jr School: Michigan St. Conference: Big Ten Ht., Wt.: 6-0, 235 40 Time: 4.75 BIO: Four-year starter and All-Conference selection who led the team in tackles as a senior posting 125/9/2. Accumulated 100 or more tackles each of the past three seasons. Used at both outside and middle linebacker.POSITIVES: Efficient, alert defender who flies around the football. Diagnoses the action, takes good angles to the play and quick locating the ball. Breaks down well, scrapes well laterally and rarely off his feet. Disciplined, does not bite on ball fakes and immediately picks up coverage assignments. Displays quickness and explosion filling gaps up the field.NEGATIVES: Not fluid dropping into space and does more turning and chasing than actual covering. Cannot immediately alter his angle of attack. Slow getting through the trash laterally and held up at the point of attack by blocks. Not a sudden or explosive defender.ANALYSIS: A consistent defender with excellent intangibles and football intellect, Stanley lacks the pure size/speed numbers for the next level. The inability to be effective in pass coverage lends one to believe he's best off on the inside of a 34 defense where he is allowed to freely flow to the action. An inexpensive backup who must make it on special teams.PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent Andre Frazier Grade: 3.43 Position: OLB Class: Sr School: Cincinnati Conference: C-USA Ht., Wt.: 6-4.5, 234 40 Time: 4.73 BIO: All-Conference selection the past two seasons posting 37/11/5 as a junior and 56/10.5/7 the prior year. Moved into the starting lineup as a sophomore.POSITIVES: Undersized yet explosive collegiate defensive end who projects to linebacker at the next level. Quick off the snap, keeps his pads low to the ground and drives up the field. Plays with excellent balance, body control and works hard until the whistle blows. Displays effective hand technique getting around opponents, rushes the edge with speed and redirects to the action. Rarely off his feet and moves laterally to string plays to the flanks. Good head for the ball and immediately diagnoses the action.NEGATIVES: Handled at the point by a single blocker or moved off the line. Has difficulty shedding blocks by opposing tight ends.ANALYSIS: An athletic prospect who lined up in a three point stance in college, Frazier projects well to outside linebacker in a 34 defense. Displays both the instincts and athletic abilities to play in space and has long range potential.PROJECTION: Mid Fifth Round Arnold Harrison Grade: 3.09 Position: OLB Class: Sr School: Georgia Conference: SEC Ht., Wt.: 6-2.5, 240 40 Time: 4.71 BIO: Part-time starter the past two seasons, posting 32 tackles as a senior after 48 as a junior.POSITIVES: Hard-working outside linebacker best on the strong side. Bends his knees playing with leverage, works to get involved in the action and wraps up ballcarriers. Takes good angles to the play, can run with backs in coverage and gets depth on drops. Effective special teams player throughout his career.NEGATIVES: Hesitant, slow to react and not very decisive. Overall game lacks suddenness. Must do a better job using his hands to keep opponents away.ANALYSIS: A solid size/speed prospect, Harrison looks the part, yet does not always play to it. Does not show the instincts to go along with his athletic ability, and presently stands as a late round pick and developmental prospect.PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent DT Elliott Harris -- (6'2", 265, 5.09) -- ARKANSASPK Shaun Suisham -- Bowling GreenLS Greg Warren -- North CarolinaFB John Kuhn -- Shippensburg(edited for some copy and paste errors)
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Interesting article on the Blogger today about Fred Gibson:
Ex-Coach: Gibson a Steal
I hope Gibson comes into camp prepared and shows what he can do -- he'll likely never have a better opportunity to make an impact than he will this season. Otherwise, I guess we'll have another Lee Mays on our hands.
Ex-Coach: Gibson a Steal
I hope Gibson comes into camp prepared and shows what he can do -- he'll likely never have a better opportunity to make an impact than he will this season. Otherwise, I guess we'll have another Lee Mays on our hands.
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A lot of people have been trashing the Essex pick, but I like what I have read about him. I have not seen his technique, or agressiveness, quickness, or ability to finish a block ever questioned. What I have seen as negatives were his upper body strength, weight control, and committment to the weight room. These are all things that I think Russ Grimm, the strength and conditioning coach, and Allan Faneca can fix. Maybe they could have picked him up later, but based on what they did pick later, I can hardly criticize the timing. I have to say that I am more optimistic about this draft than any that I can remember.
i heard essex on a radio show here in pittsburgh a couple days ago and he sounds like he has his head on straight. smart guy, willing to learn from Russ Grimm, wants to validate his draft selection. maybe the steelers reached for him, but if we end up with a starting left tackle, we'll be glad they did.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Didn't think this warranted it's own thread, but Kemoeatu signed a three year deal worth about $1M. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05139/507030.stm
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Chris Kemoeatu, a rookie guard from Utah, blasted Eagles linebacker Hugh Douglas right out of the game film with a devastating block Monday night.
"He just knocked him down and kept going after him," said tackle Max Starks . A sixth-round pick, Kemoeatu appears to be a perfect fit for the Steelers. He loves their large menu of counter plays because they afford him the chance to pull and punish. "At Utah, we had three or four counter plays," he said. "Here, it's like eight to nine. It's fun. I love pulling and hitting people."
Kemoeatu also got high marks for delivering three "pancake" blocks as a wedge man on the kickoff return team.
"He was impressive, to say the least," said coach Bill Cowher.
At practice yesterday, Kemoeatu neutralized mammoth nose tackle Casey Hampton on a pass-blocking drill.
Chris Kemoeatu, a rookie guard from Utah, blasted Eagles linebacker Hugh Douglas right out of the game film with a devastating block Monday night.
"He just knocked him down and kept going after him," said tackle Max Starks . A sixth-round pick, Kemoeatu appears to be a perfect fit for the Steelers. He loves their large menu of counter plays because they afford him the chance to pull and punish. "At Utah, we had three or four counter plays," he said. "Here, it's like eight to nine. It's fun. I love pulling and hitting people."
Kemoeatu also got high marks for delivering three "pancake" blocks as a wedge man on the kickoff return team.
"He was impressive, to say the least," said coach Bill Cowher.
At practice yesterday, Kemoeatu neutralized mammoth nose tackle Casey Hampton on a pass-blocking drill.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
This is why I was begging for them to take him from round 4 on. Getting him in the 6th round is going to prove to be absolute larceny if he can keep his head on straight.link
Chris Kemoeatu, a rookie guard from Utah, blasted Eagles linebacker Hugh Douglas right out of the game film with a devastating block Monday night.
"He just knocked him down and kept going after him," said tackle Max Starks . A sixth-round pick, Kemoeatu appears to be a perfect fit for the Steelers. He loves their large menu of counter plays because they afford him the chance to pull and punish. "At Utah, we had three or four counter plays," he said. "Here, it's like eight to nine. It's fun. I love pulling and hitting people."
Kemoeatu also got high marks for delivering three "pancake" blocks as a wedge man on the kickoff return team.
"He was impressive, to say the least," said coach Bill Cowher.
At practice yesterday, Kemoeatu neutralized mammoth nose tackle Casey Hampton on a pass-blocking drill.
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