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***OFFICIAL*** Steelers 2009 Thread (1 Viewer)

Gentlemen, what's the skinny on Kendall Simmons? Should Pats fans be happy or mad?
His greatest skill was falling down untouched out of his backpedal.He was about as bad a player as can be found regularly starting in the NFL.He is diabetic and trying to rehab an Achilles tear, even if he's back to 100%....well, that's not sayin much.If he sees regular time, Brady may not make much of a comeback.
Don't forget the frostbite he once suffered when he fell asleep during rehab for a heel injury while a cooling device was attached to his foot. Classic!He was a late first round draft pick (2002) and did start for multiple seasons so he at least at one point had some talent. I don't feel many Steelers fans believe he lived up to his draft selection, however.
 
Gentlemen, what's the skinny on Kendall Simmons? Should Pats fans be happy or mad?
His greatest skill was falling down untouched out of his backpedal.He was about as bad a player as can be found regularly starting in the NFL.He is diabetic and trying to rehab an Achilles tear, even if he's back to 100%....well, that's not sayin much.If he sees regular time, Brady may not make much of a comeback.
Don't forget the frostbite he once suffered when he fell asleep during rehab for a heel injury while a cooling device was attached to his foot. Classic!He was a late first round draft pick (2002) and did start for multiple seasons so he at least at one point had some talent. I don't feel many Steelers fans believe he lived up to his draft selection, however.
Ouch.Hopefully this is the kind of stuff that was said about Mike Vrable too...
 
Gentlemen, what's the skinny on Kendall Simmons? Should Pats fans be happy or mad?
His greatest skill was falling down untouched out of his backpedal.He was about as bad a player as can be found regularly starting in the NFL.He is diabetic and trying to rehab an Achilles tear, even if he's back to 100%....well, that's not sayin much.If he sees regular time, Brady may not make much of a comeback.
Don't forget the frostbite he once suffered when he fell asleep during rehab for a heel injury while a cooling device was attached to his foot. Classic!He was a late first round draft pick (2002) and did start for multiple seasons so he at least at one point had some talent. I don't feel many Steelers fans believe he lived up to his draft selection, however.
Ouch.Hopefully this is the kind of stuff that was said about Mike Vrable too...
Vrabel was a player that needed to be developed and BB was a mastermind in the way he schemed for Vrabel. OG is a totally different story. You either have talent or you don't. Simmons is terrible period.
 
Gentlemen, what's the skinny on Kendall Simmons? Should Pats fans be happy or mad?
His greatest skill was falling down untouched out of his backpedal.He was about as bad a player as can be found regularly starting in the NFL.He is diabetic and trying to rehab an Achilles tear, even if he's back to 100%....well, that's not sayin much.If he sees regular time, Brady may not make much of a comeback.
Don't forget the frostbite he once suffered when he fell asleep during rehab for a heel injury while a cooling device was attached to his foot. Classic!He was a late first round draft pick (2002) and did start for multiple seasons so he at least at one point had some talent. I don't feel many Steelers fans believe he lived up to his draft selection, however.
Ouch.Hopefully this is the kind of stuff that was said about Mike Vrable too...
Vrabel was a player that needed to be developed and BB was a mastermind in the way he schemed for Vrabel. OG is a totally different story. You either have talent or you don't. Simmons is terrible period.
Thanks for the feedback...I'll inform the Dark Lord....
 
Regarding Simmons, the Steelers did sign him to a large 2nd contract so clearly they liked him at that point. I think the issue with him was that he was always injured, probably affected his play too. Similar to Marvel Smith.

 
Regarding Simmons, the Steelers did sign him to a large 2nd contract so clearly they liked him at that point. I think the issue with him was that he was always injured, probably affected his play too. Similar to Marvel Smith.
That's good to hear...as long as NE protects themselves against injury there's upside here...thanks frenchy
 
Steelers add eighth player to practice squad

Monday, September 07, 2009

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers this morning filled out their practice squad of eight players when they signed defensive back Tuff Harris, 26.

Harris was cut by the Tennessee Titans, where he played six games last season. He played one game for the Miami Dolphins in 2007. He played college ball at Montana.
Bet you he's gone after week 1.
 
I didn't see this signing coming but it looks like a reasonable deal.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09251/996414-66.stm

Steelers sign one more veteran before season starts

Tuesday, September 08, 2009

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers came to one final contract extension before the regular season starts when center Justin Hartwig today signed a four-year, $10 million contract. The deal includes a $2.1 million signing bonus.

It will be the final contract extension the team does this season, sources say.

Hartwig enters his second season as the Steelers starting center since he signed as a free agent in 2008.

First published on September 8, 2009 at 2:19 pm

Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09251/996414...m#ixzz0QXjZpsHt

 
I didn't see this signing coming but it looks like a reasonable deal.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09251/996414-66.stm

Steelers sign one more veteran before season starts

Tuesday, September 08, 2009

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers came to one final contract extension before the regular season starts when center Justin Hartwig today signed a four-year, $10 million contract. The deal includes a $2.1 million signing bonus.

It will be the final contract extension the team does this season, sources say.

Hartwig enters his second season as the Steelers starting center since he signed as a free agent in 2008.

First published on September 8, 2009 at 2:19 pm

Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09251/996414...m#ixzz0QXjZpsHt
Amazingly cap friendly deal.Omar Khan proves again he is one of the best in the business.

Just a great, great off-season so far. Cap friendly deals for proven vets heading into unstable times.

With no CBA, Colon is a RFA.

That leaves Hampton, Clark, and Reed.

No CBA = 2 franchise tags and 1 transition tag.

Hmmm.......

 
I didn't see this signing coming but it looks like a reasonable deal.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09251/996414-66.stm

Steelers sign one more veteran before season starts

Tuesday, September 08, 2009

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers came to one final contract extension before the regular season starts when center Justin Hartwig today signed a four-year, $10 million contract. The deal includes a $2.1 million signing bonus.

It will be the final contract extension the team does this season, sources say.

Hartwig enters his second season as the Steelers starting center since he signed as a free agent in 2008.

First published on September 8, 2009 at 2:19 pm

Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09251/996414...m#ixzz0QXjZpsHt
Amazingly cap friendly deal.Omar Khan proves again he is one of the best in the business.

Just a great, great off-season so far. Cap friendly deals for proven vets heading into unstable times.

With no CBA, Colon is a RFA.

That leaves Hampton, Clark, and Reed.

No CBA = 2 franchise tags and 1 transition tag.

Hmmm.......
I like the deal though I would have preferred signing Clark first...
 
Regarding Simmons, the Steelers did sign him to a large 2nd contract so clearly they liked him at that point. I think the issue with him was that he was always injured, probably affected his play too. Similar to Marvel Smith.
That's good to hear...as long as NE protects themselves against injury there's upside here...thanks frenchy
Vrabel's a far different story as he was successful in Pittsburgh as a rush end in the 3-4 but he never seemed to fit the scheme in any other situation. He and the Steelers system was not a good match.I suppose there can be some hope for NE in terms of their OL scheme being different than the Steelers scheme, but that's about as far as I can go in the comparison. If Simmons was a 3rd or 4th round pick, his release by the Steelers would not have been noteworthy. As it is, it didn't make much noise.
 
Simmons showed a lot of promise 5-6 years ago. I remember in that 2004 preseason he was playing like a monster, looked like pro bowl quality talent. Then he tore his ACL and was done for that year. Then later on he developed diabetes and struggled maintaining the strength/weight he once had and you need to have to play inside on the offensive line in the NFL. After all that, he was just not the same player, not even close. He was pretty terrible in 2007, and was even worse in 2008 before he got hurt. I don't see much of an upside for the Pats, but they've found playing time for other Steelers cast offs in recent years like Chad Scott, Hank Poteat, and others, not to mention Mike Vrabel who turned into a damn fine OLB, so I guess you never know for sure. I wouldn't think of him as anything more than veteran depth though.

 
For all the Roethlisberger naysayers, keep on ripping him and ranking him behind Manning, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Palmer, etc. I'll take him over any of those guys.

:2cents: :( :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
For all the Roethlisberger naysayers, keep on ripping him and ranking him behind Manning, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Palmer, etc. I'll take him over any of those guys. :( :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :football:
:2cents: Exactly what I was thinking while I watched him lead those last two drives. :thumbup:
 
berger looked good, but you should be thanking rob bironas for that win
Yep, the game wouldn't possibly had played out any differently had he made those FGs. Every play would have been exactly the same from that point.
 
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Welcome back, Daniel Sepulveda!!!

The Titans started 3 drives inside the 5, one at the 10 and one at the 11, so 5 of their 12 possessions for the game were inside their 12 yard line. Don't think this didn't affect the entire outcome of the game.

 
Welcome back, Daniel Sepulveda!!!The Titans started 3 drives inside the 5, one at the 10 and one at the 11, so 5 of their 12 possessions for the game were inside their 12 yard line. Don't think this didn't affect the entire outcome of the game.
:loco: It was refreshing to see quality punting, will be a huge asset this year. :thumbup:
 
berger looked good, but you should be thanking rob bironas for that win
Yep, the game wouldn't possibly had played out any differently had he made those FGs. Every play would have been exactly the same from that point.
he shanked a chipshot in a VERY low scoring game
And in case I was too subtle for you in my first response, I'm suggesting the Steelers just might have responded differently if he makes that first field goal. For that matter, the Titans may have responsed differently to the Steelers response.This reminds me of the Seahawk fans who go through SB XL and add up points the officials took (in their view) from the Seahawks and add them up to suggest the Seahawks win that game if calls go differently. They completely discount how the real score impacted game decisions, etc.So let's play your way. I'll give the Titans both FGs, but since we're eliminating mistakes, then we cannot count Hines Ward's fumble. The Steelers score the TD there instead of turning the ball over and win 17-16. This is fun!
 
They just need to go to the shotgun/three-wide as the base O ala New England. Mewelde Moore=Kevin Faulk, have him in 40-50% of the time. Use pass to set up run.

 
berger looked good, but you should be thanking rob bironas for that win
Yep, the game wouldn't possibly had played out any differently had he made those FGs. Every play would have been exactly the same from that point.
he shanked a chipshot in a VERY low scoring game
By the way, if you're suggesting the Titans could have won and/or the Steelers were fortunate to win, then I completely agree. The game went to overtime and was tied for all but 8 minutes and 40 seconds.But seriously, out of that game you pick out the missed field goals.What about Ben's 20 yard sack that cost three points.Hines Ward's fumble.Polamalu's injury.It works both ways, especially in a close game.
 
Welcome back, Daniel Sepulveda!!!The Titans started 3 drives inside the 5, one at the 10 and one at the 11, so 5 of their 12 possessions for the game were inside their 12 yard line. Don't think this didn't affect the entire outcome of the game.
Sepulveda and Logan are going to make a huge difference in field position this season.
 
Manster said:
berger looked good, but you should be thanking rob bironas for that win
Yep, the game wouldn't possibly had played out any differently had he made those FGs. Every play would have been exactly the same from that point.
he shanked a chipshot in a VERY low scoring game
In the hardest stadium in the entire league to make field goals.Ill thank the stadium. Thank you Heinz Field.
He shanked it on the closed end. He can't blame the stadium for that. Although it did look like a bad snap.
 
Manster said:
berger looked good, but you should be thanking rob bironas for that win
Yep, the game wouldn't possibly had played out any differently had he made those FGs. Every play would have been exactly the same from that point.
he shanked a chipshot in a VERY low scoring game
In the hardest stadium in the entire league to make field goals.Ill thank the stadium. Thank you Heinz Field.
He shanked it on the closed end. He can't blame the stadium for that. Although it did look like a bad snap.
:goodposting: That kicked wouldn't have been good if they had placed the goal posts on the line of scrimmage.
 
Kicking is mostly a mental excercise. I will continue to thank the stadium. Thank you Heinz Stadium.
In that case give me some credit too. I sit five rows up from where Bironas was kicking into the net and was yelling that he was going to shank one as he was warming up before the kick.
 
Manster said:
berger looked good, but you should be thanking rob bironas for that win
Yep, the game wouldn't possibly had played out any differently had he made those FGs. Every play would have been exactly the same from that point.
he shanked a chipshot in a VERY low scoring game
And in case I was too subtle for you in my first response, I'm suggesting the Steelers just might have responded differently if he makes that first field goal. For that matter, the Titans may have responsed differently to the Steelers response.This reminds me of the Seahawk fans who go through SB XL and add up points the officials took (in their view) from the Seahawks and add them up to suggest the Seahawks win that game if calls go differently. They completely discount how the real score impacted game decisions, etc.So let's play your way. I'll give the Titans both FGs, but since we're eliminating mistakes, then we cannot count Hines Ward's fumble. The Steelers score the TD there instead of turning the ball over and win 17-16. This is fun!
Steelers always seem to have low scoring games and every year some ##### walks in here and yaps about luck. Somehow though the rebuts always make me laugh when they prove the guy a fool.
 
Regarding Simmons, the Steelers did sign him to a large 2nd contract so clearly they liked him at that point. I think the issue with him was that he was always injured, probably affected his play too. Similar to Marvel Smith.
That's good to hear...as long as NE protects themselves against injury there's upside here...thanks frenchy
:mellow: Steelers also gave a big contract at the time to Kordell. How'd that work out. Steelers are a great organization, but they are not perfect. Simmons is spent and is done. Injuries and diabetes curtailed his promise yrs ago.
 
GREEN BAY -- Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher is expected to undergo surgery early Monday morning after dislocating his right wrist in Sunday's 21-15 loss to the Packers.Urlacher injured his wrist in the first quarter, although it is unclear exactly how he suffered the injury. He had an X-ray at halftime and no MRI was needed.A surgery related to a dislocation could have something to do with bone being put back into place. The extent of Urlacher's injury wasn't evident following the game although he was expected to undergo a procedure upon the team's arrival back in Chicago after midnight.The Bears are hopeful it will not sideline Urlacher long. He played well before exiting with three tackles.The defensive co-captain talked last week about being in the best playing shape of his career after back and neck injuries slowed him down the previous two seasons.Urlacher wasn't the only starting linebacker to go down in the first quarter.Strong-side linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa suffered a sprained posterior cruciate ligament in his right knee and did not return. It is unknown how long he will be out.Hunter Hillenmeyer replaced Urlacher at middle linebacker while Nick Roach stepped in at strong-side linebacker.Tight end Desmond Clark suffered a back injury in the third quarter and was taken to the bench. Starting left guard Frank Omiyale walked off with an injury shortly after Clark and was replaced by Josh Beekman.Reserve cornerback Trumaine McBride exited with a knee injury and did not return.
The Bears really got beat up last night and with the way Cutler was throwing picks I am thinking this is a good week to be traveling to Chicago.
 
No Urlacher should certainly help the running game. So maybe they can average *gasp!* TWO yards a carry!?

I'm basically ready to agree with Sigfreid....line up in the gun w/3 WRs and a TE as the base D with Moore back there as the RB and dare teams to send the house on Ben. More times than not, he finds a way to stay upright and burns 'em. Sure, it'll probably wind up getting him killed, but hell, at least they'll move the ball and score points, right?

That "running game" display on Thursday is quite possibly the worst I've seen since....I don't even remember when. Yeah, the Titans front 7 are good, but there was a time(not so long ago) when that didn't matter. The Steelers ran on ANYONE.

Zierlein, Arians, Tomlin and Colbert all share equally in the blame, IMO. The scheme is flawed for the personnel they have....or the personnel is flawed for the scheme they run. Either way, they should have addressed it by A) Scrapping the system/Zierlein for a better system/coach or, B) Acquiring lineman who fit the scheme. They've done neither, yet, and it's making me scratch my head. They obviously see the same games we do.(Or maybe they don't, given Arians speech about Colon being "the best RT in football" this offseason).

 
No Urlacher should certainly help the running game. So maybe they can average *gasp!* TWO yards a carry!?I'm basically ready to agree with Sigfreid....line up in the gun w/3 WRs and a TE as the base D with Moore back there as the RB and dare teams to send the house on Ben. More times than not, he finds a way to stay upright and burns 'em. Sure, it'll probably wind up getting him killed, but hell, at least they'll move the ball and score points, right? That "running game" display on Thursday is quite possibly the worst I've seen since....I don't even remember when. Yeah, the Titans front 7 are good, but there was a time(not so long ago) when that didn't matter. The Steelers ran on ANYONE. Zierlein, Arians, Tomlin and Colbert all share equally in the blame, IMO. The scheme is flawed for the personnel they have....or the personnel is flawed for the scheme they run. Either way, they should have addressed it by A) Scrapping the system/Zierlein for a better system/coach or, B) Acquiring lineman who fit the scheme. They've done neither, yet, and it's making me scratch my head. They obviously see the same games we do.(Or maybe they don't, given Arians speech about Colon being "the best RT in football" this offseason).
I hear you but unfortunately we are stuck with this o-line for a while since they are all signed now. All we can hope is they (and the play calling) will get better as the season goes on.
 
I hear you but unfortunately we are stuck with this o-line for a while since they are all signed now. All we can hope is they (and the play calling) will get better as the season goes on.
I know, and it makes me want to do bad things to puppies. :goodposting:I kept hoping in the offseason, when it became apparent they were going to "keep the band together", that they'd at least jettison Zierlein. You look back at the guy's career track record for his team's running game and outside of 2006(I think. May have been '07) for Pittsburgh, his teams have been ordinary at best. Mid-20's. And that's exactly where they wound up a season ago...and likely will this year(and that could potentially be a dream scenario if it wasn't all just Tenn. having a good front 7 last Thursday). I know that the talent on the OL isn't great and that's the biggest reason they struggle.....but it's compounded when they're asked to do things that they aren't particularly good at.I don't understand how the coaching staff can continually watch all the RBs get whacked 1-2 yards deep in the backfield almost every running play and still think that all this pulling/read-react/zone hore@#%$# is a good idea. Particularly in short-yardage. I think every person on earth, including the ones who don't own a TV, knows precisely where the Steelers are running when they line up in that 3 TE formation and have the UB shift to one side or another just before the snap. Almost without fail they go right behind the motion guy off of an inside handoff to the RB. By the time the QB gets the ball to the runner, at least one defender is right in his kitchen. If I can pick that up, and I certainly ain't breaking down tape here, then I'm pretty sure DCs can too.
 
Are we allowed to criticize the O-line now?
When did anyone ever stop criticizing it over the past 2+ seasons? :blackdot:
I wish I could disagree with you or give you some hope that it get better but I can't. You are 100% right.
But...but....you're GOD'S brother!!! If you don't have the pull to make things better, then I guess I'll just go hook up the gas pipe right now. My faith in anything is now totally shot. Thanks, dude. ***stops car in moving traffic on the Liberty Bridge....methodically scribbles a note in the dust on the dashboard "The Steelers OL is just too bad. I can't handle it any more."....calmly turns off engine and carefully exits the car.....nonchalantly walks to the side of the bridge...hops over the edge without even pausing***

"I hope you're happ-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!"

 
4 man fronts kick a DE out to the 9 tech and force a DE/TE match-up. Neither Miller nor Spaeth can handle that 1 on 1 and it gets backfield penetration every time.

That is just made worse by both FWP and Mendenhall's lack of vision.

This unit was surprisingly good in pass pro. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Pitt's line and running game is far more successful against 3-4 teams.

 
4 man fronts kick a DE out to the 9 tech and force a DE/TE match-up. Neither Miller nor Spaeth can handle that 1 on 1 and it gets backfield penetration every time.

That is just made worse by both FWP and Mendenhall's lack of vision.



This unit was surprisingly good in pass pro. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Pitt's line and running game is far more successful against 3-4 teams.
This has been largely ignored. I think they looked really good in pass protection. They give up sacks, but a line made up entirely of HoF'ers would give up sacks with Ben back there. The answer is pass to set up the run. That is the make-up of this team. The best player on the O is the QB. The next best players are the WR's. The line pass blocks well, but can't run block at all.

It is strange to say it, but the Steelers are a passing team.

 
4 man fronts kick a DE out to the 9 tech and force a DE/TE match-up. Neither Miller nor Spaeth can handle that 1 on 1 and it gets backfield penetration every time.

That is just made worse by both FWP and Mendenhall's lack of vision.



This unit was surprisingly good in pass pro. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Pitt's line and running game is far more successful against 3-4 teams.
This has been largely ignored. I think they looked really good in pass protection. They give up sacks, but a line made up entirely of HoF'ers would give up sacks with Ben back there. The answer is pass to set up the run. That is the make-up of this team. The best player on the O is the QB. The next best players are the WR's. The line pass blocks well, but can't run block at all.

It is strange to say it, but the Steelers are a passing team.
They were good against the pass in the 4th quarter when Tennessee inexplicably rushed only 3-4. Against the pass when Tennessee sent more, they were average at best. And their run blocking is the worst in the league.But I agree they are a passing team.

 
4 man fronts kick a DE out to the 9 tech and force a DE/TE match-up. Neither Miller nor Spaeth can handle that 1 on 1 and it gets backfield penetration every time.

That is just made worse by both FWP and Mendenhall's lack of vision.



This unit was surprisingly good in pass pro. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Pitt's line and running game is far more successful against 3-4 teams.
This has been largely ignored. I think they looked really good in pass protection. They give up sacks, but a line made up entirely of HoF'ers would give up sacks with Ben back there. The answer is pass to set up the run. That is the make-up of this team. The best player on the O is the QB. The next best players are the WR's. The line pass blocks well, but can't run block at all.

It is strange to say it, but the Steelers are a passing team.
For the most part I think this has been true since their AFC Divisional win over Indy in 2006.
 

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