Godsbrother
Footballguy
In week 1 he kicked 2 FGs including the game winner in OT. Now he misses a couple in the rain on a crappy re-sodded surface and all of a sudden he has lost it? I think you are overreacting here...
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***OFFICIAL*** Steelers 2009 Thread (1 Viewer)
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Bizkiteer
Footballguy
Not overreacting, he just doesn't look to be his former self. His kicks were shakey in pre-season and yesterday was bad not once, but twice. Hey, I'm not saying the guy is bum, but PK's seem go bad and fast at times...just ask Vanderjadt.I wish the 'Skins PK had at least half the talent that Reed has because God knows we need it. We can't seem to score an offensive TD, so kicking is about all we got.
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
He's fine... now go worry about your owner throwing money at problems and not putting together a team.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Not much to report from Tomlin's press conference.
Tomlin said that he felt the defense played a good job against the run but not very good on 3rd downs. He said they did not do well in short coverage. He said he has not lost any confidence in PK Jeff Reed.
He marvelled at the Begals defense, especially Odom's 7 sacks in 2 games, and said that Palmer is back to playing at a high level.
Other than that, not much else to report except for the injuries:
Tyrone Carter (thigh) should be able to return to practice on a limited basis Thursday. If he cannot play then Mundy will get the start. He said that CBs Townsend and Ratliff could play some safety as well.
Limas Sweed (ankle) was running this morning and will practice tomorrow.
No mention of Troy Polamalu.
Tomlin said that he felt the defense played a good job against the run but not very good on 3rd downs. He said they did not do well in short coverage. He said he has not lost any confidence in PK Jeff Reed.
He marvelled at the Begals defense, especially Odom's 7 sacks in 2 games, and said that Palmer is back to playing at a high level.
Other than that, not much else to report except for the injuries:
Tyrone Carter (thigh) should be able to return to practice on a limited basis Thursday. If he cannot play then Mundy will get the start. He said that CBs Townsend and Ratliff could play some safety as well.
Limas Sweed (ankle) was running this morning and will practice tomorrow.
No mention of Troy Polamalu.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
According to the Post Gazette, Polamalu may be back for the Lions game on 10/11:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Ward was back 2 weeks after that injury - how much more evidence does Troy need? 
belljr
Footballguy
Damn it - 1 week too late
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
<Grandpa Simpson-amalu> "That hyperbaric oxygen chamber stole my sooooooooul!!!!!! **runs off w/"Head 'n Shoulders" coif flowing in the breeze**</Grandpa Simpson-amalu>Ward was back 2 weeks after that injury - how much more evidence does Troy need?
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Yes they do.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
This team looked defeated even before it was over. Hines and Santonio sitting on the bench looking beaten while the D was still out there. As much as anything else, this team needs some leadership and attitude adjustment.
Offensive and Defensive play calling has been bad. Lebeau has dialed back blitzing while Polamalu is out and I don't think its working. We need to keep pressure on the QB.
As much as I love to blame the O-line for our woes, other than a few 3rd/short 4th/short plays, I thought they did a decent job. Best running production on the year and Willie looked to have a little burst. How bad must Mendenhall be though?
We're a couple of missed plays from both 0-3 and 3-0. Not time to hit the panic button yet. But this team needs to get its attitude back. If they don't, getting Troy back will help only marginally.
Offensive and Defensive play calling has been bad. Lebeau has dialed back blitzing while Polamalu is out and I don't think its working. We need to keep pressure on the QB.
As much as I love to blame the O-line for our woes, other than a few 3rd/short 4th/short plays, I thought they did a decent job. Best running production on the year and Willie looked to have a little burst. How bad must Mendenhall be though?
We're a couple of missed plays from both 0-3 and 3-0. Not time to hit the panic button yet. But this team needs to get its attitude back. If they don't, getting Troy back will help only marginally.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Not sure I agree that Hines & Santonio looked defeated but everything else is spot on.
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
SWEED
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
One of the few Steelers who actually looked good was Big Ben. The guy continues to amaze me and is playing like a qb who should be 3-0 right now. I think it's still way too early to panic though........they still get to face the entire division.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Big Ben hosting the WWE Monday night raw next week.......... 
. I'll definitely have to catch that one.
. I'll definitely have to catch that one.
The Jerk
Footballguy
I'd go with disgusted and a state of disbelief more than defeated.Losing a game the Steelers led by 11 (or more) in the fourth quarter has only happened twice in the past 18 seasons (vs. 100+ wins and a tie) so I can understand some of that. The fact that both happened in the same stadium and comprises the past two wins the Bengals have at home against the Steelers is interesting but ultimately meaningless.
Fiddles
Footballguy
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-...n-FB-Davis.html
The Pittsburgh Steelers have brought back a familiar face as they re-signed veteran fullback Carey Davis this morning, according to a league source.
Davis, who was the starter in the Super Bowl last season, was one of the final cuts as he lost out to rookie fifth-round pick Frank Summers. The 28-year-old started 11 games over the last two seasons for the Steelers and had previous stops in Indianapolis, Atlanta and Miami.
The Steelers’ lack of a running game has been a frequent topic of conversation in their 1-2 start, and the fullback has been minimized in the offensive scheme. Summers has reportedly struggled and was not active in Sunday’s loss to Cincinnati. Davis had been on the workout circuit, getting tryouts in Baltimore and St. Louis.
It's not know yet known what corresponding roster move will be made by the Steelers.
The Pittsburgh Steelers have brought back a familiar face as they re-signed veteran fullback Carey Davis this morning, according to a league source.
Davis, who was the starter in the Super Bowl last season, was one of the final cuts as he lost out to rookie fifth-round pick Frank Summers. The 28-year-old started 11 games over the last two seasons for the Steelers and had previous stops in Indianapolis, Atlanta and Miami.
The Steelers’ lack of a running game has been a frequent topic of conversation in their 1-2 start, and the fullback has been minimized in the offensive scheme. Summers has reportedly struggled and was not active in Sunday’s loss to Cincinnati. Davis had been on the workout circuit, getting tryouts in Baltimore and St. Louis.
It's not know yet known what corresponding roster move will be made by the Steelers.
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Sweet! So we ge to see the "Davis for a two yard loss inside handoff" installed back into the short yardage package.
analog_hiss
Footballguy
Looks this was a necessary move as Summers was put on IR, Johnson has an ankle sprain, and Willie is dealing with turf toe.Fiddles said:
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Funny how Summers was fine last week, was inactive for the game, but suddenly developed a back injury that Tomlin described as a "mystery injury" and placed on the IR a few hours later. Does anyone get the feeling that perhaps they realized that "Frank the Tank" is not ready for primetime?
I guess they are probably lucky to get Davis back considering he already knows the system but it does not bode well for the running game.
I guess they are probably lucky to get Davis back considering he already knows the system but it does not bode well for the running game.
Ben Stiller
Footballguy
As a Steelers fan I've never been as discouraged as I was watching Carey Davis & Gary Russell set up to receive the kick-off after Fitzgerald's go-ahead TD late in the Super Bowl.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Yes! And also the quick pass to Davis out in the flat that is either dropped, caught while falling down, or tackled immediately.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Larry Brown XXX
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
Time to run 4 wide with Logan in the backfield.
Just kidding of course, but this crappy running game is making me miss the smash mouth running team the Steelers used to be.
Just kidding of course, but this crappy running game is making me miss the smash mouth running team the Steelers used to be.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Tomlin pulled no punches when it came to Sweed in the press conference yesterday. He was asked if he was concerned about Sweed's drops and said something to the effect of : "He's just not catching the ball when he gets behind the defense. He's making mistakes and it's something that has to get worked out." Then, he was asked if he was concerned that it could get in Limas' head and wouldn't get worked out and replied : "Yes, I am."
Later, they asked him if the dressing of McDonald over Sweed was becoming a possiblity, and replied : "Absolutely."
I have a feeling we may see McDonald this week and not Limas.
Later, they asked him if the dressing of McDonald over Sweed was becoming a possiblity, and replied : "Absolutely."
I have a feeling we may see McDonald this week and not Limas.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Rumors are flying around town that Polamalu might play this week. Although he has resumed running he hasn't officially been practicing so I think it is doubtful.
Still it would be a sight for sore eyes to see him in the secondary this week against the Chargers.
Still it would be a sight for sore eyes to see him in the secondary this week against the Chargers.
The Jerk
Footballguy
ESPN just said Polamalu is "not ruling himself out" of the game on Sunday and that the knee really felt well (or something like that) after running on it on Wednesday. (L.A. Sports Center @ 1:26 EDT)
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Although it's not a must win game, I don't like the Steelers chances of making the playoffs if they lose to the Chargers on Sunday. They absolutely need a spark on defense this week.The Jerk said:
I find it very ironic that Tomlin is not calling out Holmes for his horrible play the last two games.
treat88
Footballguy
Holmes play has always been inconsistent.The SB made national expectations of Holmes far higher than he had ever previously performed.Thing is I think the SB and those national accolades made Holmes believe he was really that good himself.Guy has got to get back to fundamentals.
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I agree with everything you wrote. However, he was pretty consistently reliable at OSU. Like alot of high-performing college football players, I think Holmes is struggling at times with playing against players of a similar talent level. He's got plenty of NFL level talent to succeed, but I fear he isn't consistent because he doesn't have an NFL level work ethic. I don't doubt he wants to be great in the NFL, but that takes elite preparation and practice, something I'm not sure he's willing to do.
Holmes has always been inconsistent in his opportunities and numbers he puts up week to week, but never for dropping multiple passes each game and running wrong routes. Those are two different things. I love Holmes, but I don't agree with Tomlin calling out Sweed and Mendenhall, but giving the vets such as Holmes and Parker a pass.
treat88
Footballguy
Disagree.15 receptions on 30 targets in 2009 to date.55 receptions on 114 targets in 2008.52 receptions on 84 targets in 2007.49 receptions on 86 targets in 2006.He's regressed to an approx 50% catch rate largely due to poor route running, mostly an inability to sight adjust and understand his hot responsibilities, and inconsistent hands.
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Even more reason for Tomlin to also call out Holmes.
treat88
Footballguy
Agreed. Sweed takes the heat, but Holmes hurts the team more often.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Holmes has made some big plays for this team. Sweed's next big catch will be his first.
I agree and has I have stated I love Holmes, but you cannot ignore his very poor play the last two games. IMHO a coach cannot just call out reserve players for their poor play and ignore the starters poor play and keep his credibility.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Nonsense. I guarantee you the coaching staff is not ignoring poor play from anyone. They go through the film and it becomes obvious to the whole team when a player, regardless of his status, is screwing up.By calling out underachieving players to the media Tomlin is sending a clear signal that they better get their act in gear. He does cut a little slack in that area for proven vets because he knows these guys will come through for him down the road.Tomlin is in no danger of losing his credibility with his players or front office and that is pretty much all that matters.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Anyone else find it odd that the Steelers are anywhere from 6.5 to 7 point favorites? The opening was 5 points so who in the heck is betting on the Steelers?
analog_hiss
Footballguy
I don't have a subscription to steelcityinsider, but a friend does. In a conversation with him last night, the friend said Wexell commented in his upate yesterday that S. Logan looked great at his "natural position of RB."
Any subscribers to the insider care to add to this? Was Logan just working on the scout team (playing the Sproles roll)?
Any subscribers to the insider care to add to this? Was Logan just working on the scout team (playing the Sproles roll)?
analog_hiss
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Not a subscriber, but that is exactly what Coach Mike said that they'd be doing with him this week in his Tuesday presser. Of course, if Parker's toe is gimpier than they'd hoped maybe he WAS working him in as part of the regular rotation?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Tomlin said in his press conference that they would be using Logan on the scout team because of his size and running style. It wouldn't shock me to see them put Logan in the backfield for a play or two for a surprise.
The Jerk
Footballguy
He's a running back by trade, not a receiver as some have claimed. Logan was fourth in the CFL in rushing last season (first in ypc) 2008 CFL rushing leaders and sixth in combined rushing/receiving yards (2008 CFL combined yards). There's only eight teams, but that's still a decent showing.Godsbrother said:
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analog_hiss
Footballguy
Parker sits out Steelers practice again
Friday, October 02, 2009
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Running back Willie Parker is not practicing again today because of his turf toe injury and it doesn't appear as though he will play Sunday night against the San Diego Chargers.
Parker has not worked with the team since injuring his toe five days ago against the Cincinnati Bengals. When a player doesn't practice all week, he rarely, if ever, plays in the game.
The Steelers have not made any official determination about Parker, who rushed for a combined 261 yards in two games against the Chargers last season, including 146 in the playoff game at Heinz Field.
Friday, October 02, 2009
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Running back Willie Parker is not practicing again today because of his turf toe injury and it doesn't appear as though he will play Sunday night against the San Diego Chargers.
Parker has not worked with the team since injuring his toe five days ago against the Cincinnati Bengals. When a player doesn't practice all week, he rarely, if ever, plays in the game.
The Steelers have not made any official determination about Parker, who rushed for a combined 261 yards in two games against the Chargers last season, including 146 in the playoff game at Heinz Field.
The Gray Hood
Footballguy
considering their opponent in week 5, I'd be interested in hearing more about mike wallace, and where the production will come from in that game.
will he possibly steal from ward?
will he possibly steal from ward?
