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***Official Super Bowl LII Thread*** - Eagles vs Patriots (1 Viewer)
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Ill be rooting for the Pats
Well yeah my original premise was the Chargers were worse. I'd take the other 2 teams to roll these stiffs though
Awww, that hurts me so. Just noticed that you have a mancrush on Mike Trout (which is kinda weird). But he's a huge Eagles fan and would be very disappointed in your bitterness and jealousy.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Cause... the pats defense... is better than the Vikings defense? I mean I know your schticking at this point so I let you keep rolling but I'm trying to follow along.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
mozzy84
Footballguy
Vikings played terrible, yes the pats defense will play better than they did last week.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
They played terrible. Any QB could have picked them apart. Except the other 17 who faced them this year.
CentralPA
Footballguy
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
We welcome all fans to watch. It's just the bitterness that makes us feel bad for you. :(
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Who's bitter? Just because I pointed out the Eagles are one of the worst superbowl teams of the last 25 years I'm bitter?
Maybe you should write the league office and suggest a tournament of past Super Bowl teams. Since you seem hung up on something irrelevant. Let us know how they respond.
Insein
Footballguy
Oh. Didn't realize we were talking strategy. I was just trying to keep up with the schtick.
babydemon90
Footballguy
So, on topic..
Kinda surreal with four ex-Eagles castoffs (Amendola, Dion Lewis. Chung, Rowe) that will presumably be playing a large role for the Pats this game. I think Rowe is the only at the time I was disappointed we got rid of, but it is impressive how the Pats keep turning nobodies into good players.
Another interesting topic - this particular formation of the Eagles (Foles at QB, Ajayi at RB, etc..) - there really isn't a ton of game film on. Usually in the Super Bowl, Bellichek has a full years of analysis on a teams tendencies and such - I wonder how valuable that old film is now. Might be an advantage here for Pederson to have some plays that the Pats won't have prepped for. Not to mention - are you prepping for Atlanta version, which seemed to run a lot more conservative, or the Vikings version, which took a lot more down the field shots? With such a small sample size with Foles, I think it might be harder to really hone in on tendencies..
Kinda surreal with four ex-Eagles castoffs (Amendola, Dion Lewis. Chung, Rowe) that will presumably be playing a large role for the Pats this game. I think Rowe is the only at the time I was disappointed we got rid of, but it is impressive how the Pats keep turning nobodies into good players.
Another interesting topic - this particular formation of the Eagles (Foles at QB, Ajayi at RB, etc..) - there really isn't a ton of game film on. Usually in the Super Bowl, Bellichek has a full years of analysis on a teams tendencies and such - I wonder how valuable that old film is now. Might be an advantage here for Pederson to have some plays that the Pats won't have prepped for. Not to mention - are you prepping for Atlanta version, which seemed to run a lot more conservative, or the Vikings version, which took a lot more down the field shots? With such a small sample size with Foles, I think it might be harder to really hone in on tendencies..
Plus the fact that Pederson added a portion of the old Chip Kelly playbook that Foles was comfortable with. I think that's why they made the best defense in the league look so ordinary last week. So many looks and different plays off of those looks. Much bigger challenge in this game. No better game-planner in the league than Belichick.
CentralPA
Footballguy
I wasn't happy when the Eagles let Lewis go. He showed sparks of his potential while with the Eagles but just had guys like McCoy ahead of him. Pats have really turned him into a great weapon.
Insein
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
Bossman
Footballguy
Patriots are returning to the SB with a team that is much less talented then previous Brady / Belechick SB teams.
They're bringing one Pro-Bowl player not named Brady to the game (McCourty). (ok, Slater .. but he's on special teams and Hightower is IR)
Safe to assume any of the previous SB Patriot teams with Brady would have kicked the crap out of this years version. Wilfork, McGinest, Rodney Harrison, Revis, Bruschi, Ty Law, Collins, Chandler Jones, Vrabel, etc. No comparison.
The AFC gives NE it's top contenders, the Titans and Jaguars. Yes, the best the AFC can offer for resistance comes from the AFC South ... and isn't the Colts. Pathetic.
NE ekes out a win vs the mighty Jags and Vegas still has the Pats as 5 point favorites ... against the best team from the NFC.
. Ridiculous.
I can only think to myself, jeeze ... how bad are these Eagles?
They're bringing one Pro-Bowl player not named Brady to the game (McCourty). (ok, Slater .. but he's on special teams and Hightower is IR)
Safe to assume any of the previous SB Patriot teams with Brady would have kicked the crap out of this years version. Wilfork, McGinest, Rodney Harrison, Revis, Bruschi, Ty Law, Collins, Chandler Jones, Vrabel, etc. No comparison.
The AFC gives NE it's top contenders, the Titans and Jaguars. Yes, the best the AFC can offer for resistance comes from the AFC South ... and isn't the Colts. Pathetic.
NE ekes out a win vs the mighty Jags and Vegas still has the Pats as 5 point favorites ... against the best team from the NFC.
. Ridiculous.I can only think to myself, jeeze ... how bad are these Eagles?
need2know
Footballguy
Bad enough to maybe win this gamePatriots are returning to the SB with a team that is much less talented then previous Brady / Belechick SB teams.
They're bringing one Pro-Bowl player not named Brady to the game (McCourty). (ok, Slater .. but he's on special teams and Hightower is IR)
Safe to assume any of the previous SB Patriot teams with Brady would have kicked the crap out of this years version. Wilfork, McGinest, Rodney Harrison, Revis, Bruschi, Ty Law, Collins, Chandler Jones, Vrabel, etc. No comparison.
The AFC gives NE it's top contenders, the Titans and Jaguars. Yes, the best the AFC can offer for resistance comes from the AFC South ... and isn't the Colts. Pathetic.
NE ekes out a win vs the mighty Jags and Vegas still has the Pats as 5 point favorites ... against the best team from the NFC.
I can only think to myself, jeeze ... how bad are these Eagles?
Gronk isn't a pro bowler?Patriots are returning to the SB with a team that is much less talented then previous Brady / Belechick SB teams.
They're bringing one Pro-Bowl player not named Brady to the game (McCourty). (ok, Slater .. but he's on special teams and Hightower is IR)
Safe to assume any of the previous SB Patriot teams with Brady would have kicked the crap out of this years version. Wilfork, McGinest, Rodney Harrison, Revis, Bruschi, Ty Law, Collins, Chandler Jones, Vrabel, etc. No comparison.
The AFC gives NE it's top contenders, the Titans and Jaguars. Yes, the best the AFC can offer for resistance comes from the AFC South ... and isn't the Colts. Pathetic.
NE ekes out a win vs the mighty Jags and Vegas still has the Pats as 5 point favorites ... against the best team from the NFC.
I can only think to myself, jeeze ... how bad are these Eagles?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
To be fair the Giants would probably rank pretty far down in talent of super bowl teams. Yet they won both.
dhockster
Footballguy
Well, if you pointed it out, it must be true.
Since the Chargers played in the Super Bowl there have been 23 Superbowls (including this years) and 46 teams playing.
Why the Eagles ARE NOT one of the worst superbowl teams since the Chargers:
Metric #1 - Regular season record - Eagles are tied for the 10th best regular season record out of 46.
to be continued.......
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Funny I only see 2 regular season wins for Foles and both were against garbage teams.
need2know
Footballguy
So the two playoff wins aren't worth anything?
That's more than million dollar Stafford has in his life
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Right, so your premise is they are the worst of the Super Bowl teams because their starting QB only had two wins?
How many of the Eagles' 53-man roster were there all season and amassed that overall record.
You do realize that, contrary to what network advertisers might lead you to believe, games are not decided by having the starting QBs in a staredown at midfield...
Anarchy99
Footballguy
One of the issues for the Eagles is that Foles has never faced NE. I don’t remember what the record is in for QBs in their first starts against B.B. defenses, but I remember it was not good. Of course, most of those games were not against 13 win teams, so that makes things a bit different.
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Undefeated in regular season and undefeated in post season. You are seeing what you want to see.
Foles just beat the best defense in football 38-7 and this Stafford fan is talking smack.
You can't make this stuff up.
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jon007
Footballguy
Here is the truth.
If the Pats win then they are the best team and everyone thought they would win. No big deal.
If the Eagles win then the Pats just got beat by a Nick Foles lead team.
It's not the Eagles that are up against it. It's the Patriots.
If the Pats win then they are the best team and everyone thought they would win. No big deal.
If the Eagles win then the Pats just got beat by a Nick Foles lead team.
It's not the Eagles that are up against it. It's the Patriots.
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This is what I mean about playing with house money. How many Eagles fans thought our season was over when Wentz went down for the year? (I'll raise my hand, for sure). Oh sure, we'd make the playoffs. Wentz clinched that part. But we saw the Packers without Rodgers. And the Cowboys when Romo was lost for the year early 3 seasons ago. It suddenly became a 'wait till next year'. Most didn't dream of a playoff win. Let alone two. And no one could have predicted blowing out such a complete team like Minnesota. Unless the Eagles get manhandled 45-6 or something, there is no possible bad outcome of the game as for the future of this team. If they lose 24-17 to the best QB and team in league history with a backup MLB, LT, and QB? So what.Here is the truth.
If the Pats win then they are the best team and everyone thought they would win. No big deal.
If the Eagles win then the Pats just got beat by a Nick Foles lead team.
I hope the players play with the same level of no-fux-given as I have. Just relax and have fun. This isn't even the varsity.
JuniorGong
Footballguy
After reading this thread, I’m just hoping the Pats don’t get embarrassed by the mighty Eagles. I can’t believe Vegas has them favored, man are those guys idiots.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I think the Minny win was flukey, Minny TO's really shifted momentum. Beating the Falcons doesn't impress me...one of the softest teams in football. I'm no Stafford honk but give him the Eagles supporting cast and he could pull off a win
Not a Stafford fan Chief. He's a 2nd tier QB at bestFoles just beat the best defense in football 38-7 and this Stafford fan is talking smack.
38-7 Is flukey. ?
Also, I like that you're saying that Stafford with the same team that folds is playing with could pull off a win. The highest paid quarterback in football might "pull off" a win against a team that was just destroyed 38 to 7 by Foles.
Thank you for proving our point. You are dismissed
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Heard the same story in 2014 against the Seahawks. Heard the same story last season against the Falcons. You can float as many stats and theories out there as you want, but at the end of the day you know this game comes down to coaching. And who do you trust more, one of the best coaches of all time..or a guy who's from the Andy Reid coaching tree?
JuniorGong
Footballguy
Minny joins a long line of dome teams that crapped the bed when having to play outdoors in January in the cold, crazy how lathered up people are getting with that win.
That might stand up if it was 17-14. Besides, it was 50 degrees with no wind.
Back to the drawing board. Do better next time.
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devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Lol. I beg to differ. The 2011 Patriots had one of the worst defenses in the league that season, and Edelman was a defensive back during most of their playoff run.Patriots are returning to the SB with a team that is much less talented then previous Brady / Belechick SB teams.
They're bringing one Pro-Bowl player not named Brady to the game (McCourty). (ok, Slater .. but he's on special teams and Hightower is IR)
Safe to assume any of the previous SB Patriot teams with Brady would have kicked the crap out of this years version. Wilfork, McGinest, Rodney Harrison, Revis, Bruschi, Ty Law, Collins, Chandler Jones, Vrabel, etc. No comparison.
The AFC gives NE it's top contenders, the Titans and Jaguars. Yes, the best the AFC can offer for resistance comes from the AFC South ... and isn't the Colts. Pathetic.
NE ekes out a win vs the mighty Jags and Vegas still has the Pats as 5 point favorites ... against the best team from the NFC.
I can only think to myself, jeeze ... how bad are these Eagles?
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
What happened to the Eagles the last time they played a great QB and offense on the road without Wentz? That's right, they haven't. This team has struggled all season on the road against good teams regardless. Meanwhile the Patriots have been one of the best road teams in the NFL over the past 2 seasons.
need2know
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Obviously, but considering 90% of the Eagles fans are part of the lower class I don't think many will be able to afford the cost of a ticket and trip to Minnesota.
need2know
Footballguy
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