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***Official Super Bowl LII Thread*** - Eagles vs Patriots (1 Viewer)

i get Pats fans are sensitive to some of this stuff, but this article does make some valid points:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl-playoffs/2018/1/29/16943670/new-england-patriots-penalties-edge
My response to a troll posting that article in the NEP indefinite thread. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/703376-indefinite-new-england-patriots-thread/?do=findComment&comment=20818573

Obviously the harsh tone of the post doesn’t apply to you at all, GB. You’re not a troll.  But it may shed some light on the topic. 

Good luck today :thumbup:  

I was in bed by 9pm sick, coming down with something not good. Slept poorly due to fever and whatnot. REALLY hoping I can shake this by midday as I am going to have a house FULL of people by noon.... :unsure:  

worst case, whiskey. Lots of it. Skip work tomorrow. Unfortunately I have a 2nd Phone interview with an awesome job Monday at 11am. :lol:   

 
Nothing adds up to say the Eagles should win but why not us and why not now......if we are going to bring home a SuperBowl I can’t think of a better way. Lay it out there against the best and see what happens. Go Eagles. 
That’s the spirit! :thumbup:  

Anyone saying you guys have no chance are insane. You’ve got a helluva team that has a great mindset for this game. They seem loose and confident.

The test is if they can keep that mindset once they walk out under the lights. Luckily you guys are well coached and have several guys who have “been there” before (notably Blount and Long) who can help calm the guys down and keep them grounded. 

 
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Pats 31-20

That said, I won’t be surprised if the Eagles win and eventually I will probably even be happy for their fan base. They have stayed loyal to that team through decades and decades of losing and not getting it done, similar to Sox fans prior to 2004. Eventually the worm turns, don’t think it will be tonight but if it is good on them.

 
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I can tell you that it's actually a natural feeling.  When I lived in Pittsburgh (for most of my life), anyone who lived in the city but was a fan of another team absolutely hated the fans and the Steelers.  I think it's more common when you live in a city that has a passionate fanbase and successful teams.  I don't think many people living in Jacksonville would hate the Jaguars.  It doesn't help that the majority of the Philly sports talk hosts are complete arrogant douchebags.  If you're a fan of any other team trying to call into the majority of those shows (I've never even attempted), you're basically either ridiculed or discarded.  But the same thing happens in Pittsburgh and I'm guessing Boston, Chicago, etc.
I lived in Minnesota and hated Vikings fans.  And they weren't a successful team at all.   It was annoying to see so many people jump on the bandwagon each year, then all jump off at exactly the same time once it became clear the season had fallen apart (again).  

 
That’s the spirit! :thumbup:  

Anyone saying you guys have no chance are inside. You’ve got a helluva team that has a great mindset for this game. They seem loose and confident.

The test is if they can keep that mindset once they walk out under the lights. Luckily you guys are well coached and have several guys who have “been there” before (notably Blount and Long) who can help calm the guys down and keep them grounded. 
There is nothing that can drive discussion like a SB between 2 passionate fans bases like NE and Philly. We’ve all had or fun in here but I hope win or lose everyone stays classy. Eagles win their first or Pats win their sixth. Either way it will make for an epic story. I hope everyone enjoys the game and is safe!

 
There is nothing that can drive discussion like a SB between 2 passionate fans bases like NE and Philly. We’ve all had or fun in here but I hope win or lose everyone stays classy. Eagles win their first or Pats win their sixth. Either way it will make for an epic story. I hope everyone enjoys the game and is safe!
Well said, my friend. Hopefully the winners celebrate like adults. (And NE disappears into the night?)

 
SB is finally here!  I've been trying to stay out of this thread, but will be around tonight.  

This should be a great game, and neither team have glaring weaknesses.  I think people are overlooking the NE D and how good they have been at limiting points since about week 5, and people are also overlooking the Philly O with Foles.   I think a lot will come down to Peterson/Foles, and how he decides to trust him and come out of the gate.  The last thing you want to do is let the Pats keep within a score for 3 Quarters while you run the ball all game, but even worse would be to go down by a couple scores and MAKE Foles have to be the hero or to have him come out shaky.  I think the NE O's strengths match up OK with the Philly D so they and use Danny and Gronk to soften them up.  If Philly puts somebody else on Gronk or takes away coverage downfield, you have 2 burners in Hogan and Cooks that can make them pay.  

Of course I am picking the Pats, but I could see this either way, and I am just hoping for yet another close and entertaining game like all their other SB appearances.  

NE 28 - Philly 27 

 
The more I delved into the past two weeks, part of me wonders if NE stops the Eagles pass rush that this could turn into NE winnIng handily. 

Philadelphia reminds me of the 92 Bills team. For those too young to remember, current PHI coach Frank Reich subbed in for an injured Jim Kelly and led his own 28-3 miracle comeback against the Oilers. (Somewhat mirroring Foles leading the charge instead of Wentz).

In the divisional game, the Bills defense came alive, beating PIT on the road again with Reich 24-3.   They followed that with a 29-10 thumping of Marino’s Dolphins in Miami (with Kelly back).

Meanwhile, the Cowboys sailed through the Eagles 34-10 (similar to the Pats vs. TEN). They battled the Niners in the NFCCG, holding on by a single possession before a late TD sealed the game. 

I remember the talk at the time that this time it was Buffalo’s year, they were confident, they were clicking on offense and defense, etc. Then the game came and the Bills got blown out 52-17.

While I am not suggesting that NE is going to hang 50 on the Eagles, I would not read a ton into the Eagles defense being stellar the last couple of weeks and the team is bursting with confidence.

If the Eagles do win, they will have beaten a team that has been the healthiest it’s been all season with the greatest QB of his generation and likey the greatest head coach of all time (certainly the best in the free agency era). On top of that, PHI would have beaten 3 head coaches (with the NE coordinators moving on next year). Bottom line, PHI would have earned a victory again a really good team. 

 
The more I delved into the past two weeks, part of me wonders if NE stops the Eagles pass rush that this could turn into NE winnIng handily. 

Philadelphia reminds me of the 92 Bills team. For those too young to remember, current PHI coach Frank Reich subbed in for an injured Jim Kelly and led his own 28-3 miracle comeback against the Oilers. (Somewhat mirroring Foles leading the charge instead of Wentz).

In the divisional game, the Bills defense came alive, beating PIT on the road again with Reich 24-3.   They followed that with a 29-10 thumping of Marino’s Dolphins in Miami (with Kelly back).

Meanwhile, the Cowboys sailed through the Eagles 34-10 (similar to the Pats vs. TEN). They battled the Niners in the NFCCG, holding on by a single possession before a late TD sealed the game. 

I remember the talk at the time that this time it was Buffalo’s year, they were confident, they were clicking on offense and defense, etc. Then the game came and the Bills got blown out 52-17.

While I am not suggesting that NE is going to hang 50 on the Eagles, I would not read a ton into the Eagles defense being stellar the last couple of weeks and the team is bursting with confidence.

If the Eagles do win, they will have beaten a team that has been the healthiest it’s been all season with the greatest QB of his generation and likey the greatest head coach of all time (certainly the best in the free agency era). On top of that, PHI would have beaten 3 head coaches (with the NE coordinators moving on next year). Bottom line, PHI would have earned a victory again a really good team. 
Good post, I think that’s very realistic and I am getting sick of all the media on how confident the Eagles are and people picking them. Pats are easy favorites for a number of reasons including the ones you mention but fee we have a punchers chance. If they do pull it off you couldn’t have written a better script including many reasons you mentioned and how great the Pats team and staff is. 

 
I can definitely relate to living in an area with a passionate fan base and hating said fan base. 

Grew up in rural Texas. Went to college in the city now I'm back in the town I grew up in.  

Cowboys fans are extremely obnoxious. Every year is "their year." And they love saying Eagles have no rings yet they have 1 post season win in 20 years. 

 
Will be fun...the two best teams in football...I feel confident because the three biggest difference-makers (BB, Brady and Gronk) are wearing blue and white...I also think a huge x-factor is the Pats had to play a big time D in Jacksonville in their last game...if they were going from an average D like the Steelers to Philly it would be more of a shock going against this unit...anything is possible in a one game format but I definitely have a very calming confidence because we have BB and TB12...just seen them deliver in this scenario too many times not to be optimistic..

 
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I just want to watch the game. I’m on analysis overload, at this point.

I honestly have no idea how the game plays out, but I am hoping for a good game. The only thing that would be a disappointment for me would be an extreme blowout, or for the game to come down to some BS call at the end.

As an Eagles’ fan for many, many years- I have nothing but respect for the Patriots and their team and coaches. If (when, really) we do finally win a Lombardi, I’d be glad to have done it against an elite opponent. I just feel like this is our year. Enjoy your parties, GL during the game, and hopefully, I can come back in here to collect some salty [icon] tears later tonight.

Fly, Eagles, fly!

 
Ok, I don't post on gameday (like curly im superstitious) so it is crunch time.

Im concerned about the NE def not being as good as past years and Phi having the edge on OL & DL, and if passionate fans wanting it so, so badly is a factor it could be a long day for NE.

Having said that i see it being close for a while but the wheels eventually come off for Phi at some point and NE wins going away 42-20.

Win or lose I won't blame the home town refs or accuse Phi of cheating and I hope most of the Eagles fans will show some class and do likewise.

Good luck Eagles fans, your going to need it!
Like all those other NE super bowl blowouts, eh?

I agree that PHI has the advantage on the lines, but obviously Brady and Belichick would be 1 and 2 in a draft of elements on either teams.

The more that I have thought about it, it is going to come down to Pederson.  Is he up for the task and can he make the adjustments necessary with the playcalling and keeping the players in the right mind frame?  He has shown a lot of this this year, and I really think this is what the game will come down to.  

 
Nothing adds up to say the Eagles should win but why not us and why not now......if we are going to bring home a SuperBowl I can’t think of a better way. Lay it out there against the best and see what happens. Go Eagles. 
I call BS.  Big advantage to Philly's front 4 on defense.  Fletcher Cox is a living god.  Huge money is coming in on the Eagles side of the line.  Philly has demonstrated a lack of doing stupid things.  Teams that lose to New England do stupid things (hello Jacksonville).

I think this game is going to be epic, either way.

 
I LOVE being out on days like today. We NE fans do it right. EVERYONE is out in Patriots gear. Hats, caps, jerseys, jackets, shirts, pants, sweatshirts, scarves, buttons, signs, whatever. From babies to 90 years olds in wheelchairs to workers at every place of business. Not a lot of talk about the game all week. Then the sea of endless support. No need to shoot down the Eagles. We’ve done this so many times we know how to do it. Then you bump into and discuss which year is the stuff they are wearing from. Pretty much every woman out today is in a Brady jersey. He plays for the ladies. Lol.  

 
I call BS.  Big advantage to Philly's front 4 on defense.  Fletcher Cox is a living god.  Huge money is coming in on the Eagles side of the line.  Philly has demonstrated a lack of doing stupid things.  Teams that lose to New England do stupid things (hello Jacksonville).

I think this game is going to be epic, either way.
Sure but how far do you go down the list to get to that advantage.....from coach to QB to experience on paper this is all Pats. Fortunately the games not played on paper though, any given Sunday.  :thumbup:

 
This is hardly the first game where the patriots opponent is better and more talented across the board except for belichick and Brady

 
Huge advantage for the Pats. Eagles D isn’t as good as it has appeared the past 2 games. Foles is a backup for a reason. Both are going against all time greats. But as was said, any given Sunday!

 
Huge advantage for the Pats. Eagles D isn’t as good as it has appeared the past 2 games. Foles is a backup for a reason. Both are going against all time greats. But as was said, any given Sunday!
This may be the worst take yet. 

The Eagles D is legit, and has been all year.  How are they not as good as what we’ve seen? We saw it! :doh:  

Foles is arguably the best backup QB in the league & he’s done a fine job as a starter. The Eagles OC has a great play action game plan to help him succeed, and the Eagles have so many weapons on defense they can beat you short, intermediate & deep. 

I haven’t seen Foles fail to execute since he became the starter. 

No offense, but this is a terrible take. You’re dramatically underrating the eagles here IMO. 

I concede that anything can happen, but dismissing the eagles like this is ridiculous. 

 
There is nothing that can drive discussion like a SB between 2 passionate fans bases like NE and Philly. We’ve all had or fun in here but I hope win or lose everyone stays classy. Eagles win their first or Pats win their sixth. Either way it will make for an epic story. I hope everyone enjoys the game and is safe!
This is a better take. :)  

 
Is Chris Mortensen ok? 

ETA oof just saw he was diagnosed with cancer in 2016. Initial throat issue clear but spread to lung and probably chasing it rest of his life. Sucks, always been a fan. Glad he’s out there doing what he enjoys.  :thumbup:

 
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Lucky for you that gameday is finally here. Your material is stale as ####
It’s a win win for us. They lose and we get to call them losers and call them chokers like Romo. 

They win and we can argue if they or the 1990 Giants are the worst super bowl winners of all time.

Either way Junior will still be Junior in the morning. A sad, small and miserable human being. 

 
Lol. Your jokes are older than the Cowboys Super Bowl trophies. 
Your best player was just suspended this season, that is still going on, for beating up women. It's not old, you're just tired of realizing that your team is comprised of a bunch of scumbags. Enjoy the game today. Go Birds

 
This may be the worst take yet. 

The Eagles D is legit, and has been all year.  How are they not as good as what we’ve seen? We saw it! :doh:  

Foles is arguably the best backup QB in the league & he’s done a fine job as a starter. The Eagles OC has a great play action game plan to help him succeed, and the Eagles have so many weapons on defense they can beat you short, intermediate & deep. 

I haven’t seen Foles fail to execute since he became the starter. 

No offense, but this is a terrible take. You’re dramatically underrating the eagles here IMO. 

I concede that anything can happen, but dismissing the eagles like this is ridiculous. 
Spit out the hook :lol:  

 
Your best player was just suspended this season, that is still going on, for beating up women. It's not old, you're just tired of realizing that your team is comprised of a bunch of scumbags. Enjoy the game today. Go Birds
Lmao

https://www.google.com/amp/cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2017/05/08/dallas-cowboys-arrest-totals-five-years-philadelphia-eagles-washington-new-york-giants-dui-drugs-domestic-violence/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bustle.com/p/5-football-players-accused-of-sexual-assault-domestic-violence-who-are-playing-in-the-super-bowl-8016166/amp

Youre such an idiot and hypocrite. 

 
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It’s a win win for us. They lose and we get to call them losers and call them chokers like Romo. 

They win and we can argue if they or the 1990 Giants are the worst super bowl winners of all time.

Either way Junior will still be Junior in the morning. A sad, small and miserable human being. 
:lmao:

Sorry chief, no winning going on for you guys in any way. What a joke. 

 
Stop embarrassing yourself, you are a bigger joke than your team. Let people that still have meaningful games left not have to suffer through your garbage. 
I stayed out of your awful thread like I promised Dude (Insein). You two morons are fair game in here. 

Dont you have a stupid dog mask to put on? 

 
I stayed out of your awful thread like I promised Dude (Insein). You two morons are fair game in here. 

Dont you have a stupid dog mask to put on? 
Hey everyone. Please acknowledge steadybobbin.  His team hasn't played a meaningful game in over 20 years and he desperately needs your attention. Just like a post he makes or do something so that he feels a little better about himself. He hates seeing Eagle and Patriot fans discussing a game that actually means something. So please be kind to him. It's not easy representing a team of criminals who repeatedly suck your after year. Peace be with you my friend.

 
Hey everyone. Please acknowledge steadybobbin.  His team hasn't played a meaningful game in over 20 years and he desperately needs your attention. Just like a post he makes or do something so that he feels a little better about himself. He hates seeing Eagle and Patriot fans discussing a game that actually means something. So please be kind to him. It's not easy representing a team of criminals who repeatedly suck your after year. Peace be with you my friend.
This is just too easy. 

 Can’t believe you’re rooting for that rapist Nelson Agholor. 

So Rape is OK but you draw the line at beating women? 

 
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Hey everyone. Please acknowledge steadybobbin.  His team hasn't played a meaningful game in over 20 years and he desperately needs your attention. Just like a post he makes or do something so that he feels a little better about himself. He hates seeing Eagle and Patriot fans discussing a game that actually means something. So please be kind to him. It's not easy representing a team of criminals who repeatedly suck your after year. Peace be with you my friend.
He has to be in his teens right? Hopefully no kids. 

More importantly- Go Eagles!

 
I must have missed that suspension. You're struggling here buddy. Which seems appropriate for a Cowboys' fan
He didn’t get suspended because nobody cares about the Eagles,Junior. Kind a like how your mother feels about you.

 Please do me a favor and post your comments about how the Pats aren’t a dynasty again. Lmao

 

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