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***OFFICIAL Survivor: Blood vs. Water*** (2 Viewers)

Wow Ciera realized what a major blunder she made last week and tried to correct it, but she came off as being easily manipulated by Hayden instead of thinking through what she wanted to do. I really wanted Hayden to stay alive as he is basically the only likable person left on the show. I am always appalled by Tyson, he thinks he is Ghandi out there, but people forget he made one of the top 3 dumbest Tribal decisions ever when he flipped his vote for no reason a few years back and let Russell stay in the game and cruise.

Loved seeing Tyson have to eat his own crap after Hayden had to spell out "rustle" for him.

Gervais was absolutely horrible tonight at TC. First he started the whole Ciera is 4 thing by talking about how tight he was with Monica and Tyson, then he made threats about Hayden going on jury when the jury are all pals with Hayden and also Hayden could easily win at Redemption and be back in the game. Additionally, he told Ciera to choose rocks when he could have tried to reason with her to vote out Hayden when they were discussing rocks.

Hope Hayden wins, if not him then Monica as she has been a silent assassin this game.

 
"I don't have pockets on any of my clothes so I have to put it right in my crotch where no one will suspect a bulge."

Friggin' Tyson. :lmao:

 
IMO Gervase should have picked Cierra for the reward instead of Tyson. Tyson isn't going to flip out, and it would have made Cierra feel more secure in the alliance.

I'm always amazed people want those that act the most "prickish" to win.. Hayden was doing a pretty good job of hiding who he really is until this episode.

Was he right in saying Tyson is running the group? Yes.. but there are better ways of doing it then the way he went about it. Came off as a bitter loser and if it wasn't for bitter jury members he'd have zero chance..

But as it sits now, a lot of the jury members are angry at Tyson so if Hayden makes it to the end vs. Gervarse and Tyson he will probably win by default.

Loved that Caleb got called out on his "They are backstabbers" comment.. yea, cause you didn't attempt to back stab anyone, right Caleb? :lmao:

Two weeks now of very little screen time for Monica.. So either she is just a follower of Tyson and there is nothing to show, or the producers are holding back.

Could she Flop next week.. I guess.. but last week the previews tried to make us believe Gervase was got in flip this week and others before him so I'd say no at this point.

IMO, if Laura makes it to the final 3 she could easily win this with the bitter jury and the fact she survived Redemption.

 
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Love it when people have the balls to make a move. Ciera thought it through and figured out this was her best shot. Glad she took it.
Meh. If she had thought it through more, she wouldn't have done it. Assuming math.A 33% chance of improving her position wasn't worth the 33% chance of going home tonight. Not to mention the fact that she may have already been in their top three. She's definitely not now.

It was a nice play by Hayden though. Talking other people into drawing rocks so you can stay is genius.
I think in her mind she went from a zero percent chance at top 3 to a 33% chance at top 3.

You also have to make a big move in order to win. So she upped her odds of winning from zero percent to something greater than that.

 
Pulling for Hayden and Monica. Monica deserves to win based on challenges. Hayden is likable and would get votes.

Gervase is too cocky/proud and he talked himself out of winning jury votes at TC. Dumb move.

Now all Sierra and Hayden needs is for Laura and Tina to get back into the tribe. It would instantly go from 3 on 2 to 4 on 3... and if they pull Monica in they could end the Tyson/Gervase team. If that happens I think Laura and Monica would be the favorites (maybe even Sierra since she would always have Laura's vote at TC). The last I-challenge is usually endurance or something else more suited for lighter women.

 
Corporation said:
I couldn't tell if he was talking with Katie as he was hugging her or talking to Hayden, but he pointed to their seat in the jury. Not very endearing.
I think he was talking to Katie. I thought he said something like "I believe your seat is right over there on the jury"... I couldn't believe she didn't say "and I believe you just lost at least one vote you pompous jackwad."

 
Pulling for Hayden and Monica. Monica deserves to win based on challenges. Hayden is likable and would get votes.

Gervase is too cocky/proud and he talked himself out of winning jury votes at TC. Dumb move.

Now all Sierra and Hayden needs is for Laura and Tina to get back into the tribe. It would instantly go from 3 on 2 to 4 on 3... and if they pull Monica in they could end the Tyson/Gervase team. If that happens I think Laura and Monica would be the favorites (maybe even Sierra since she would always have Laura's vote at TC). The last I-challenge is usually endurance or something else more suited for lighter women.
:confused:

Why do you think two people are going to reenter the game? It has always just been one.

 
Maelstrom said:
Gervase...all you have to do is say you took the 2 people who were finishing the challenge behind you. Forestalls all the other questions about rank, cause you make the reward all about the challenge performance and paying Monica back rather than about alliances and spots.

And then you make sure Monica knows (ahead of time) that you have to tell Ciera she is in the top 3, so that you can lie about it with a straight face whenever you need to, including at the tribal. And tell Monica to just play off being "4" by saying, hey, I've either been right there or won most of the immunities so far, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. Little bit of planning by either Tyson or Gervase and Ciera feels really comfortable and doesn't bother to flip.
Yep. Tyson wouldn't have made that mistake. He'd have taken Monica and Ciera and explained it to Gervase later.

And they could even keep their final three promise to Ciera all the way to the end, without actually taking her to final three. Just make sure Monica wins immunity again at final four. Ciera sure isn't going to win it. Then it's, "sorry Ciera, nothing we can do".

 
biggamer3 said:
Loved seeing Tyson have to eat his own crap after Hayden had to spell out "rustle" for him.

Gervais was absolutely horrible tonight at TC. First he started the whole Ciera is 4 thing by talking about how tight he was with Monica and Tyson, then he made threats about Hayden going on jury when the jury are all pals with Hayden and also Hayden could easily win at Redemption and be back in the game. Additionally, he told Ciera to choose rocks when he could have tried to reason with her to vote out Hayden when they were discussing rocks.

Hope Hayden wins, if not him then Monica as she has been a silent assassin this game.
Well, Tyson was right that it's "ruffle feathers" not "rustle feathers". Feathers don't rustle. He just misheard "Russell" for "rustle" which is understandable. :shrug:

You're right about Gervase. He has been playing a good game, but in the heat of the moment his mouth betrays him.

I'd be ok with Hayden winning, though I still think it's Tyson. Monica has no chance. She has been impressive in challenges, but I don't think anyone likes her or respects the "outwit" portion of her game.

 
Pulling for Hayden and Monica. Monica deserves to win based on challenges. Hayden is likable and would get votes.

Gervase is too cocky/proud and he talked himself out of winning jury votes at TC. Dumb move.

Now all Sierra and Hayden needs is for Laura and Tina to get back into the tribe. It would instantly go from 3 on 2 to 4 on 3... and if they pull Monica in they could end the Tyson/Gervase team. If that happens I think Laura and Monica would be the favorites (maybe even Sierra since she would always have Laura's vote at TC). The last I-challenge is usually endurance or something else more suited for lighter women.
:confused:

Why do you think two people are going to reenter the game? It has always just been one.
:shrug: maybe they'll switch it up after one of the redemption challenges. One goes to the jury, two back into the game. If one goes I hope it's Laura.

 
Still can't believe Gervase and Monica basically told Cierra she was #4 twice in the same tribal council. Gervase should have said, "Cierra has it exactly right. I picked Monica b/c she gave up her food for all of us earlier and picked Tyson just because Cierra's won a lot of food challenges." And Monica should have just kept her mouth shut.

And Gervase talking so loud that the other survivors and jurors could hear him was just ######ed. That's three strikes my friend.

Love Hayden's game. Tried to blindside Tyson at the right time (foiled only by Cierra being a week late to realize what she needed to do), then scrambled like hell to fix it (A for effort), then stirred #### up when he knew he was on the way out last night. And survived because of it. Textbook good play and if he gets to the final three he's got last night's jurors in his pocket IMO. They were eating it up and literally beaming at what went down.

 
Hoping Laura or Hayden win at this point.

Does Laura have a back yard full of survivor challenges that she practices daily? She is dominant in these.

 
I think it is very likely that Monica wins the final immunity challenge at 4. Does the revelation last night that Tyson and Gervase are running things and she is #3 cause her to vote out Tyson because he has such a good resume? Doubtful because of how she thinks this game is all about loyalty, but I would love to see it happen. It's not that I dislike Tyson (he is pretty funny) but he has enough douchiness/snarkiness that is condescending that shows he has never quite understood what survivor is all about. The jury has to want to vote for you. If they don't, they will find a reason, no matter how lame, to vote for someone else. See Colby and Russell. Both deserved to win, but neither jury liked them enough to want to vote for them.

 
Glad I finally got to see Hayden do something on camera.

I don't watch BB, so I don't know him from there. But he seems to have a lot of likability votes going on here, which surprises me because up till last night, the entire substance of his game this year has been whining his way out of subbing in for Kat.

 
biggamer3 said:
Loved seeing Tyson have to eat his own crap after Hayden had to spell out "rustle" for him.
? Really am I wrong. I thought Tyson said Russel was a name and then he went into the rustle thing. which is wrong. Tyson is correct the saying is "ruffle feathers not rustle feathers"

I thought it was funny because Hayden was trying to make Tyson look dumb and he was using rustle wrong in the sentence. The way Hayden used it he was saying he was stealing or making a dry cracking sound with feathers.

rus·tle
ˈrəsəl/
verb
verb: rustle; 3rd person present: rustles; past tense: rustled; past participle: rustled; gerund or present participle: rustling
  1. 1.
    make a soft, muffled crackling sound like that caused by the movement of dry leaves or paper.
    "she came closer, her skirt swaying and rustling"
    synonyms: swish, whoosh, swoosh, whisper, sigh More "her dress rustled as she moved"
    swish, whisper, rustling;
    literarysusurration, susurrus
    "the rustle of the leaves"
    • move with a rustling sound.
      "a nurse rustled in with a syringe"
    • move (something), causing it to make a rustling sound.
      "Dolly rustled the paper irritably"
  2. 2.
    round up and steal (cattle, horses, or sheep).
    synonyms: steal, thieve, take; More
 
biggamer3 said:
Wow Ciera realized what a major blunder she made last week and tried to correct it, but she came off as being easily manipulated by Hayden instead of thinking through what she wanted to do. I really wanted Hayden to stay alive as he is basically the only likable person left on the show. I am always appalled by Tyson, he thinks he is Ghandi out there, but people forget he made one of the top 3 dumbest Tribal decisions ever when he flipped his vote for no reason a few years back and let Russell stay in the game and cruise.

Loved seeing Tyson have to eat his own crap after Hayden had to spell out "rustle" for him.

Gervais was absolutely horrible tonight at TC. First he started the whole Ciera is 4 thing by talking about how tight he was with Monica and Tyson, then he made threats about Hayden going on jury when the jury are all pals with Hayden and also Hayden could easily win at Redemption and be back in the game. Additionally, he told Ciera to choose rocks when he could have tried to reason with her to vote out Hayden when they were discussing rocks.

Hope Hayden wins, if not him then Monica as she has been a silent assassin this game.
Told the wife the same thing "Hayden is the only one I can even root for at this point."

I don't understand why anyone would say he's bitter or "prickish", he didn't come off that way at all to me; he was painted into a corner and fought to the bitter end, and it worked. He didn't seem bitter, he just laid all the cards on the table since he had nothing to lose. He also did it in front of the jury, so there can be no question or spinning of what really occurred. Just a great move. The only misstep was not explaining to Ciera EXACTLY why she would have been the next to go home even before Katie once they didn't need her vote anymore - because they were not going to let her hang around until her Mom gets back in the game.

On the whole Tyson flip; not only did his flip allow Russell to stay in the game, HE was the one who got voted out. One of the single dumbest moves in Survivor history.

Gervase is a moron. He couldn't have done much more wrong at that tribal.

 
biggamer3 said:
Loved seeing Tyson have to eat his own crap after Hayden had to spell out "rustle" for him.
? Really am I wrong. I thought Tyson said Russel was a name and then he went into the rustle thing. which is wrong. Tyson is correct the saying is "ruffle feathers not rustle feathers"

I thought it was funny because Hayden was trying to make Tyson look dumb and he was using rustle wrong in the sentence. The way Hayden used it he was saying he was stealing or making a dry cracking sound with feathers.

rus·tle
ˈrəsəl/
verb
verb: rustle; 3rd person present: rustles; past tense: rustled; past participle: rustled; gerund or present participle: rustling
  1. 1.
    make a soft, muffled crackling sound like that caused by the movement of dry leaves or paper.
    "she came closer, her skirt swaying and rustling"
    synonyms: swish, whoosh, swoosh, whisper, sigh More "her dress rustled as she moved"
    swish, whisper, rustling;
    literarysusurration, susurrus
    "the rustle of the leaves"
    • move with a rustling sound.
      "a nurse rustled in with a syringe"
    • move (something), causing it to make a rustling sound.
      "Dolly rustled the paper irritably"
  2. 2.
    round up and steal (cattle, horses, or sheep).
    synonyms: steal, thieve, take; More
Sometimes when people are speaking extemporaneously, they make trivial mistakes. Tyson was a tool for trying to pounce, and he's the one who came off sounding like he didn't know rustle is a verb, not just a name. Hayden was cool for keeping cool.

 
Sometimes when people are speaking extemporaneously, they make trivial mistakes. Tyson was a tool for trying to pounce, and he's the one who came off sounding like he didn't know rustle is a verb, not just a name. Hayden was cool for keeping cool.
I thought it was good -- it sort of broke the tension and made people laught. Hayden also had a big ol' head of steam and that comment knocked the needle off the record.

Also, I suspect Tyson is more well-liked by his competitors than people seem to perceive here. He's sarcastic, but often at his own expense.

 
biggamer3 said:
Loved seeing Tyson have to eat his own crap after Hayden had to spell out "rustle" for him.
? Really am I wrong. I thought Tyson said Russel was a name and then he went into the rustle thing. which is wrong. Tyson is correct the saying is "ruffle feathers not rustle feathers"

I thought it was funny because Hayden was trying to make Tyson look dumb and he was using rustle wrong in the sentence. The way Hayden used it he was saying he was stealing or making a dry cracking sound with feathers.

rus·tle
ˈrəsəl/
verb
verb: rustle; 3rd person present: rustles; past tense: rustled; past participle: rustled; gerund or present participle: rustling
  1. 1.
    make a soft, muffled crackling sound like that caused by the movement of dry leaves or paper.
    "she came closer, her skirt swaying and rustling"
    synonyms: swish, whoosh, swoosh, whisper, sigh More "her dress rustled as she moved"
    swish, whisper, rustling;
    literarysusurration, susurrus
    "the rustle of the leaves"
    • move with a rustling sound.
      "a nurse rustled in with a syringe"
    • move (something), causing it to make a rustling sound.
      "Dolly rustled the paper irritably"
  2. 2.
    round up and steal (cattle, horses, or sheep).
    synonyms: steal, thieve, take; More
Sometimes when people are speaking extemporaneously, they make trivial mistakes. Tyson was a tool for trying to pounce, and he's the one who came off sounding like he didn't know rustle is a verb, not just a name. Hayden was cool for keeping cool.
Like Hayden said "Ruffle feathers, rustle feathers, who cares?"

Tyson thought Hayden was talking about Russel, and was stunned when Hayden was able to spell out Rustle that might not have been the perfect combo with feathers but was pretty reasonable to mistake with ruffle. I just thought Hayden pretty much owned the tribal and was happy to see him not get voted out.

People dont do this enough; make their cases fully in tribal without worrying about confrontation issues. Hayden kept saying "Yeah right she is 4" whenever they were saying Ciera was safe to drive home that Ciera was on the outs and it worked.

 
I can't for the life of me figure out why Ciera would turn on the Tyson alliance immediately after protecting them from Hayden's blindside.

 
I didn't perceive Hayden to be a bitter, sore loser. I think he is a fighter and did everything he could tactically to stay alive in the game. I like Hayden, but I also like Tyson. Tyson is sarcastic and regularly rips on people, but he is funny. He seemed to be awfully well liked by everyone until he flipped on them and got them booted, so I think it is bitterness about being outplayed that is fueling many on the jury.

It's funny. I don't see a lot of difference in Tyson and Boston Rob's behavior. BTW, I like them both. I always root for someone who has played hard and deserves to win.

 
I can't for the life of me figure out why Ciera would turn on the Tyson alliance immediately after protecting them from Hayden's blindside.
Yep, a week too late. I think that move should automatically remove her from consideration for winning. She wouldn't flip when she had numbers, but decides to flip when she doesn't. Bad move.

 
When Caleb's tower collapsed at the end of the challenge, Tina's wasn't really very high. He might have just been able to stack up the piles of "cards" flat and come close to reaching her height.

 
Yeah Ciera had a pretty clear path to the finals if she flips last week (and they kept the blindside quiet so Tyson did not play his idol). If she flipped last week and Tyson got voted off, then she is in a 4 person alliance with Katie, Hayden, and Caleb. Hayden and Caleb are pretty tight so she pairs up with Katie. Vote Gervase and Monica out. At 4, there is a reasonable chance her mom comes back and they vote out Hayden and Caleb. Final 3 of Laura M, Ciera, and Katie.

If someone other than her mom comes back (Monica, Gervase, or Tyson), they probably try to go to the finals with Katie and Ciera rather than Hayden and Caleb.

If Tina comes back, she goes to the finals with Katie and Ciera.

If Hayden or Caleb win immunity at 4 they would definitely vote out Tyson or Gervase if they came back, They might out Monica or Laura M. if they came back, They would definitely take Tina and Katie if Tina came back.

 
I can't for the life of me figure out why Ciera would turn on the Tyson alliance immediately after protecting them from Hayden's blindside.
Yep, a week too late. I think that move should automatically remove her from consideration for winning. She wouldn't flip when she had numbers, but decides to flip when she doesn't. Bad move.
The mistake was not doing it last week.

As someone pointed out upthread, the math last night was having a 100% chance of finishing 4th vs. a 33% chance of finishing top three. Barring a challenge win at four (and good luck with that vs Tyson, Gervase and Monica), she was DOA in her old alliance.

 
Yeah Ciera had a pretty clear path to the finals if she flips last week (and they kept the blindside quiet so Tyson did not play his idol). If she flipped last week and Tyson got voted off, then she is in a 4 person alliance with Katie, Hayden, and Caleb. Hayden and Caleb are pretty tight so she pairs up with Katie. Vote Gervase and Monica out. At 4, there is a reasonable chance her mom comes back and they vote out Hayden and Caleb. Final 3 of Laura M, Ciera, and Katie.

If someone other than her mom comes back (Monica, Gervase, or Tyson), they probably try to go to the finals with Katie and Ciera rather than Hayden and Caleb.

If Tina comes back, she goes to the finals with Katie and Ciera.

If Hayden or Caleb win immunity at 4 they would definitely vote out Tyson or Gervase if they came back, They might out Monica or Laura M. if they came back, They would definitely take Tina and Katie if Tina came back.
:goodposting:

Though a Tina/Katie/Ciera final three is awful beyond words. :X

I'm not sure Katie realizes there's a game happening here. She seems like a spectator most of the time. Those two young girls are also ridiculously bad at challenges. Just embarrassing.

 
Nice call re: "flat" Sarnoff.

When Laura M had that huge lead with six minutes to go I was completely baffled that she kept working. She should have stopped and if both players looked like they might catch her she could have started up again. Why risk knocking the thing over?

 
Yeah Ciera had a pretty clear path to the finals if she flips last week (and they kept the blindside quiet so Tyson did not play his idol). If she flipped last week and Tyson got voted off, then she is in a 4 person alliance with Katie, Hayden, and Caleb. Hayden and Caleb are pretty tight so she pairs up with Katie. Vote Gervase and Monica out. At 4, there is a reasonable chance her mom comes back and they vote out Hayden and Caleb. Final 3 of Laura M, Ciera, and Katie.

If someone other than her mom comes back (Monica, Gervase, or Tyson), they probably try to go to the finals with Katie and Ciera rather than Hayden and Caleb.

If Tina comes back, she goes to the finals with Katie and Ciera.

If Hayden or Caleb win immunity at 4 they would definitely vote out Tyson or Gervase if they came back, They might out Monica or Laura M. if they came back, They would definitely take Tina and Katie if Tina came back.
:goodposting:

Though a Tina/Katie/Ciera final three is awful beyond words. :X

I'm not sure Katie realizes there's a game happening here. She seems like a spectator most of the time. Those two young girls are also ridiculously bad at challenges. Just embarrassing.
:goodposting: On the other side, Monica and Laura M. are beasts at challenges. If either of them are in the final 4 you better be in good with them because they are probably deciding who is going to the finals.

 
I can't for the life of me figure out why Ciera would turn on the Tyson alliance immediately after protecting them from Hayden's blindside.
Yep, a week too late. I think that move should automatically remove her from consideration for winning. She wouldn't flip when she had numbers, but decides to flip when she doesn't. Bad move.
The mistake was not doing it last week.

As someone pointed out upthread, the math last night was having a 100% chance of finishing 4th vs. a 33% chance of finishing top three. Barring a challenge win at four (and good luck with that vs Tyson, Gervase and Monica), she was DOA in her old alliance.
Too much game left to assume you can't possibly move up from 4th to 3rd imo. Especially considering there will be someone coming back into the game from RI. That was one factor that seemed to be ignored at TC.

If you're Ciera, you might not be able to get Monica to flip at F5 when it's you and Hayden. But what if Laura or Tina come back after that vote? An all-girl final three gives Monica a much better chance and seems pretty appealing. That's a reasonable route to the final three that doesn't involve drawing rocks or going up against Hayden in the final vote.

 
When Caleb's tower collapsed at the end of the challenge, Tina's wasn't really very high. He might have just been able to stack up the piles of "cards" flat and come close to reaching her height.
I thought about that too and wondered if there was a rule against it. Also wondered if Laura could attempt to startle Caleb when she was done. A sudden shout directed his way would have done it.

 
It's funny. I don't see a lot of difference in Tyson and Boston Rob's behavior. BTW, I like them both. I always root for someone who has played hard and deserves to win.
Good posting. My wife called him boston rob without the likeability last night

 
It's funny. I don't see a lot of difference in Tyson and Boston Rob's behavior. BTW, I like them both. I always root for someone who has played hard and deserves to win.
Good posting. My wife called him boston rob without the likeability last night
Eh, I think Tyson is far more likable than Boston Rob. I didn't like Tyson before this season, but he has been more likable this time around. Meanwhile, what was likable about Boston Rob's dictatorship he held over his alliance, which was filled with sheep, the last time?

 
When Caleb's tower collapsed at the end of the challenge, Tina's wasn't really very high. He might have just been able to stack up the piles of "cards" flat and come close to reaching her height.
no way. there was only like 30 seconds left when his entire stack fell.

 
I can't for the life of me figure out why Ciera would turn on the Tyson alliance immediately after protecting them from Hayden's blindside.
Yep, a week too late. I think that move should automatically remove her from consideration for winning. She wouldn't flip when she had numbers, but decides to flip when she doesn't. Bad move.
The mistake was not doing it last week.

As someone pointed out upthread, the math last night was having a 100% chance of finishing 4th vs. a 33% chance of finishing top three. Barring a challenge win at four (and good luck with that vs Tyson, Gervase and Monica), she was DOA in her old alliance.
Too much game left to assume you can't possibly move up from 4th to 3rd imo. Especially considering there will be someone coming back into the game from RI. That was one factor that seemed to be ignored at TC.

If you're Ciera, you might not be able to get Monica to flip at F5 when it's you and Hayden. But what if Laura or Tina come back after that vote? An all-girl final three gives Monica a much better chance and seems pretty appealing. That's a reasonable route to the final three that doesn't involve drawing rocks or going up against Hayden in the final vote.
VERY :goodposting: Tina or Laura comes back and the power could easily switch..

 
If you're factoring in Ciera's chance to slip into the top 3 with Tyson as a flaw in her reasoning, you also have to acknowledge that if she were to make the finals that way she'd have 0% chance of winning. The drawing rocks route atleast gives her a chance to win.

 
When Caleb's tower collapsed at the end of the challenge, Tina's wasn't really very high. He might have just been able to stack up the piles of "cards" flat and come close to reaching her height.
no way. there was only like 30 seconds left when his entire stack fell.
There were already 4 stacked-up "towers" at his feet, maybe 12-18 inches tall each. Just picking those up and dropping them on each other would have given him 5 feet or so.

 
When Caleb's tower collapsed at the end of the challenge, Tina's wasn't really very high. He might have just been able to stack up the piles of "cards" flat and come close to reaching her height.
I thought about that too and wondered if there was a rule against it. Also wondered if Laura could attempt to startle Caleb when she was done. A sudden shout directed his way would have done it.
I wondered if Caleb could have used two of the "cards" as big fans and flap his arms toward Tina's tower in an attempt to blow it over before time expired.

 
Joe T said:
Disco Stu said:
Love it when people have the balls to make a move. Ciera thought it through and figured out this was her best shot. Glad she took it.
Meh. If she had thought it through more, she wouldn't have done it. Assuming math.A 33% chance of improving her position wasn't worth the 33% chance of going home tonight. Not to mention the fact that she may have already been in their top three. She's definitely not now.

It was a nice play by Hayden though. Talking other people into drawing rocks so you can stay is genius.
I think in her mind she went from a zero percent chance at top 3 to a 33% chance at top 3.

You also have to make a big move in order to win. So she upped her odds of winning from zero percent to something greater than that.
0 % chance that broad made that calculation.

 
Tyson was right about the Russell Feathers, it was a good exchange regardless. Hayden did his best to hold his own there but he was still wrong.

I don't really care who wins the game. I feel like Tyson, Hayden and even Sierra have played a game that is deserving enough to win. Even if Gervase or Monica took it, I really wouldn't care.

 
Joe T said:
Disco Stu said:
Love it when people have the balls to make a move. Ciera thought it through and figured out this was her best shot. Glad she took it.
Meh. If she had thought it through more, she wouldn't have done it. Assuming math.A 33% chance of improving her position wasn't worth the 33% chance of going home tonight. Not to mention the fact that she may have already been in their top three. She's definitely not now.

It was a nice play by Hayden though. Talking other people into drawing rocks so you can stay is genius.
I think in her mind she went from a zero percent chance at top 3 to a 33% chance at top 3.

You also have to make a big move in order to win. So she upped her odds of winning from zero percent to something greater than that.
0 % chance that broad made that calculation.
In case anyone really wants to go through the math here...

The only thing that matters is that Ciera (I'm pretty sure that's the right spelling, not an S for her) went from 0% chance (assumption that she's #4 and those people are the F4) to a nonzero chance. But...

Deadlocking it in that way only gave her a 33% chance at improving enough to get into that F3 with Hayden and Katie because Monica and Gervase (sp?) and Hayden would be "immune." The only way she'd improve was Tyson going home.

And that doesn't account for RI person returning. All in all, I think she made the right move, but the numbers weren't favorable. It was a good "David strategy" and IMO a necessary one. High variance, she's the underdog, right move.

 
Tyson is hard to root for after pointing out the jury chair for Katie.

Gervase looked like a dope - calling out Hayden - "don't hate the player, hate the game" - which ironically Gervase was doing to hayden

 
I was really disappointed Ciera told her 'alliance' the idol clue (as if she was really tight with them then end up not voting with them at tribal). It's almost like these people are giving the whole thing to Tyson on a silver platter.

The Ruffle-Russell exchange was great. I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard.

It would've been so much better to watch if CBS had not spoiled it though. It was really kind of boring. Even sucked watching redemption. Sort of like watching a recording of a game you already know the outcome of. Why would drawing rocks make a cameraman gasp anyway?

 
Unfortunately there's no way around it but by seeing how much time was left made it obvious that it was going to rocks.

Great episode though. Like this season.

 
It's funny. I don't see a lot of difference in Tyson and Boston Rob's behavior. BTW, I like them both. I always root for someone who has played hard and deserves to win.
Good posting. My wife called him boston rob without the likeability last night
Eh, I think Tyson is far more likable than Boston Rob. I didn't like Tyson before this season, but he has been more likable this time around. Meanwhile, what was likable about Boston Rob's dictatorship he held over his alliance, which was filled with sheep, the last time?
I've never understood what is so great about Boston Rob. The last time he played and won, it was annoying how the tribe members were his puppets, and did whatever he said. It was boring to watch.

 

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