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[IvanKaramazov]

Only criticism is that the cannibals should have been more gaunt.

I dunno. Hannibal Lecter seemed to be able to maintain his weight. Maybe the gaunt cannibals just need to get better with seasoning.

 

[beer 30]

I dunno. Hannibal Lecter seemed to be able to maintain his weight. Maybe the gaunt cannibals just need to get better with seasoning.

Was Hannibal's diet strictly human or was that like the good steak dinner you treat yourself to every once in a while?

As another counter though, the cannibals weren't strict cannibals. They ate everything else as much as possible but when they ran short, somebody drew a short straw.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I dunno. Hannibal Lecter seemed to be able to maintain his weight. Maybe the gaunt cannibals just need to get better with seasoning.

Was Hannibal's diet strictly human or was that like the good steak dinner you treat yourself to every once in a while?

As another counter though, the cannibals weren't strict cannibals. They ate everything else as much as possible but when they ran short, somebody drew a short straw.

That's a good point. For most cannibals, it's probably just a "birthdays and anniversaries" thing.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Even cannibals know the benefits of a balanced meal - they still had vegetables.

Personally I'd rather eat a gristly bicep than anything involving broccoli.

 

[brun]

I dunno. Hannibal Lecter seemed to be able to maintain his weight. Maybe the gaunt cannibals just need to get better with seasoning.

Was Hannibal's diet strictly human or was that like the good steak dinner you treat yourself to every once in a while?

As another counter though, the cannibals weren't strict cannibals. They ate everything else as much as possible but when they ran short, somebody drew a short straw.

Sometimes added fava beans and a nice chianti.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If you're hungry enough, you'll eat anything. I give them credit for their resourcefulness.

 

[jamny]

I watched the whole game walkthrough of season 1 and thought it was excellent. I might check out the finale of the show to compare.

 

[ZADO]

I dunno. Hannibal Lecter seemed to be able to maintain his weight. Maybe the gaunt cannibals just need to get better with seasoning.

Was Hannibal's diet strictly human or was that like the good steak dinner you treat yourself to every once in a while?

As another counter though, the cannibals weren't strict cannibals. They ate everything else as much as possible but when they ran short, somebody drew a short straw.

Clearly they were mixing in venison and horse meat

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

 

[wazoo11]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

But who would want to see Joel dying over and over like it's Free Guy

 

[GregR]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

But who would want to see Joel dying over and over like it's Free Guy

That's what happens when you don't want a waste a shiv for the quick kill.

 

[jobarules]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

As good as the show has been they've done a poor job on two fronts...

1. They dedicated two hours on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley when they should have been adding more depth to Joel/Ellie. Heck, an extra hour of Ellie/David and Henry/Sam would've had more of an impact to the story than those 2 wasted hours.

2. I get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

 

[beer 30]

I watched the whole game walkthrough of season 1 and thought it was excellent. I might check out the finale of the show to compare.

We have so missed your witty critique of the show

 

[Capella]

get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I have to be honest on like page 1 I said I didn’t want to watch because I have no interest in zombie stuff so this has made the show multiple times better for me. It’s like we know they are out there but I don’t really have to see them.

I am interested in playing the game now, but as with most games I will only get 40% of the way through and it’ll get too hard and I’ll quit.

 

[jamny]

I watched the whole game walkthrough of season 1 and thought it was excellent. I might check out the finale of the show to compare.

We have so missed your witty critique of the show

Obviously!
This thread is as boring as the show.
At least the game has infected occasionally.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

 

[BeTheMatch]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

Then I'd say it's late 24 or even in to 2025.

 

[wazoo11]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

But who would want to see Joel dying over and over like it's Free Guy

That's what happens when you don't want a waste a shiv for the quick kill.

Just the other day I discovered walking into Fedra officers accident = quick death

 

[wazoo11]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

Just in time for part 3 to be released on PS5

 

[jamny]

reddit is great for this show. r/thelastofus is where the show can do no wrong but r/thelastofus2 is where gamers are extremely critical of the show and also generally hate Part 2 of the game and the guy that took the reins of the 2nd game and show. The first page has banned any mention of the second and bans anyone that is too critical of the show. Needless to say, I like the 2nd page. I don't recommend going there though since it's full of spoilers for the whole series.

 

[Capella]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

Just in time for part 3 to be released on PS5

Is this a real thing?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

reddit is great for this show. r/thelastofus is where the show can do no wrong but r/thelastofus2 is where gamers are extremely critical of the show and also generally hate Part 2 of the game and the guy that took the reins of the 2nd game and show. The first page has banned any mention of the second and bans anyone that is too critical of the show. Needless to say, I like the 2nd page. I don't recommend going there though since it's full of spoilers for the whole series.

Assuming the nail the landing, I may very well go back and watch S1 of this show. But yeah, as far as I'm concerned the story ends on Sunday.

 

[jobarules]

reddit is great for this show. r/thelastofus is where the show can do no wrong but r/thelastofus2 is where gamers are extremely critical of the show and also generally hate Part 2 of the game and the guy that took the reins of the 2nd game and show. The first page has banned any mention of the second and bans anyone that is too critical of the show. Needless to say, I like the 2nd page. I don't recommend going there though since it's full of spoilers for the whole series.

Part 2 was awesome.

 

[BeTheMatch]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

Just in time for part 3 to be released on PS5

Is this a real thing?

Yes

 

[jobarules]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

Just in time for part 3 to be released on PS5

Is this a real thing?

Yes

No its not

There is a multiplayer TLoU game coming out but no part 3.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I have to be honest on like page 1 I said I didn’t want to watch because I have no interest in zombie stuff so this has made the show multiple times better for me. It’s like we know they are out there but I don’t really have to see them.

I am interested in playing the game now, but as with most games I will only get 40% of the way through and it’ll get too hard and I’ll quit.

Game is great, but it's hard from the get go. Everytime someone wastes a bullet on the show I throw something at the screen.

 

[modogg]

Funny. I played the game a long time ago and still don't remember

same for me. i had to watch some clips on youtube to remember some of the specifics (completely forgot about the Sam storyline, but remembered having the sniper rifle)

get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I have to be honest on like page 1 I said I didn’t want to watch because I have no interest in zombie stuff so this has made the show multiple times better for me. It’s like we know they are out there but I don’t really have to see them.

I am interested in playing the game now, but as with most games I will only get 40% of the way through and it’ll get too hard and I’ll quit.

Game is great, but it's hard from the get go. Everytime someone wastes a bullet on the show I throw something at the screen.

and make sure you collect your bottles and bricks!! For me, the beginning of the game was much tougher, but it got easier as i got more weapons. i think i switched it to easy mode at some point in the beginning of the game to get through the tough parts

fun game though, and i recommend playing the whole part 1 of the game before the next season. If you want to venture to part 2 go for it, but you will see some spoilers that may not make the next season as fun.

for me, i enjoyed part 2 a ton. not sure why there was so much critiquing of it, wasn't sure where it came from. i think it was also the beginning of the "woke" movement in our country, so maybe that was what influenced people's opinions. For me, i enjoyed it a bunch, little long, but was fun

 

[wazoo11]

When is S2? I read late 24 or even in to 2025 for release.

Just in time for part 3 to be released on PS5

Is this a real thing?

Yes

No its not

There is a multiplayer TLoU game coming out but no part 3.

Not officially, no. It's been rumored and Neil (co-creater of game) hinted if there was to be a story - they'd entertain one.

 

[parrot]

Funny. I played the game a long time ago and still don't remember

same for me. i had to watch some clips on youtube to remember some of the specifics (completely forgot about the Sam storyline, but remembered having the sniper rifle)

get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I have to be honest on like page 1 I said I didn’t want to watch because I have no interest in zombie stuff so this has made the show multiple times better for me. It’s like we know they are out there but I don’t really have to see them.

I am interested in playing the game now, but as with most games I will only get 40% of the way through and it’ll get too hard and I’ll quit.

Game is great, but it's hard from the get go. Everytime someone wastes a bullet on the show I throw something at the screen.

and make sure you collect your bottles and bricks!! For me, the beginning of the game was much tougher, but it got easier as i got more weapons. i think i switched it to easy mode at some point in the beginning of the game to get through the tough parts

fun game though, and i recommend playing the whole part 1 of the game before the next season. If you want to venture to part 2 go for it, but you will see some spoilers that may not make the next season as fun.

for me, i enjoyed part 2 a ton. not sure why there was so much critiquing of it, wasn't sure where it came from. i think it was also the beginning of the "woke" movement in our country, so maybe that was what influenced people's opinions. For me, i enjoyed it a bunch, little long, but was fun

TLOU2 is a great game.

ETA: Fighting the Rat King on Hard+ was one of the most fun game experiences I've ever had. Still need to go back and do it in Survivor mode. It makes me laugh that gamers would willingly pass it up because "WOKE!"

 

[Corporation]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

As good as the show has been they've done a poor job on two fronts...

1. They dedicated two hours on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley when they should have been adding more depth to Joel/Ellie. Heck, an extra hour of Ellie/David and Henry/Sam would've had more of an impact to the story than those 2 wasted hours.

2. I get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

I get what you're saying here and I know it's a trope, but this is why I don't cringe when people say that they'd rather have fewer storylines featuring gay characters, or cross-dressers (it's coming). When books, films, and games play the "religious people are all secretly evil" card, fine. Let's play cards then.

Also, to be fair, the controversy around TLOU2 centered around the story and various culture-war stuff that ND lead with. I think everybody agrees that if you like the gameplay from the first game, you'll like this one too.

 

[Corporation]

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

I get what you're saying here and I know it's a trope, but this is why I don't cringe when people say that they'd rather have fewer storylines featuring gay characters, or cross-dressers (it's coming). When books, films, and games play the "religious people are all secretly evil" card, fine. Let's play cards then.

Also, to be fair, the controversy around TLOU2 centered around the story and various culture-war stuff that ND lead with. I think everybody agrees that if you like the gameplay from the first game, you'll like this one too.

I managed to avoid all the spoilers around the second game (and still don't really know). The review sites I read at the time all just focused on hating the storyline and didn't delve into what elements they hated about the story (in an effort not to spoil anything). They just said it was such a far departure from the first game it would ruin the experience. I wasn't playing that style of game when it came so it just didn't occur to me that the criticisms were politically motivated. The reviews at the time were almost overwhelmingly negative so I just decided to skip it. I did like the gameplay of the first one but the story is what captured me. If it veers too far off from Joel and Ellie vs the world, I may just leave it and enjoy the experience I had.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

I get what you're saying here and I know it's a trope, but this is why I don't cringe when people say that they'd rather have fewer storylines featuring gay characters, or cross-dressers (it's coming). When books, films, and games play the "religious people are all secretly evil" card, fine. Let's play cards then.

Also, to be fair, the controversy around TLOU2 centered around the story and various culture-war stuff that ND lead with. I think everybody agrees that if you like the gameplay from the first game, you'll like this one too.

I managed to avoid all the spoilers around the second game (and still don't really know). The review sites I read at the time all just focused on hating the storyline and didn't delve into what elements they hated about the story (in an effort not to spoil anything). They just said it was such a far departure from the first game it would ruin the experience. I wasn't playing that style of game when it came so it just didn't occur to me that the criticisms were politically motivated. The reviews at the time were almost overwhelmingly negative so I just decided to skip it. I did like the gameplay of the first one but the story is what captured me. If it veers too far off from Joel and Ellie vs the world, I may just leave it and enjoy the experience I had.

That makes sense. Like I said, somebody literally leaked the entire game (at least the story parts) way before it launched, so that whole discussion was extremely spoilery. My sense (full disclosure: never played it) is that it's a good game if you don't mind the stuff that generated all the commotion. It is dark though, but I think people expect that given how the first game went.

 

[modogg]

Funny. I played the game a long time ago and still don't remember

same for me. i had to watch some clips on youtube to remember some of the specifics (completely forgot about the Sam storyline, but remembered having the sniper rifle)

get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I have to be honest on like page 1 I said I didn’t want to watch because I have no interest in zombie stuff so this has made the show multiple times better for me. It’s like we know they are out there but I don’t really have to see them.

I am interested in playing the game now, but as with most games I will only get 40% of the way through and it’ll get too hard and I’ll quit.

Game is great, but it's hard from the get go. Everytime someone wastes a bullet on the show I throw something at the screen.

and make sure you collect your bottles and bricks!! For me, the beginning of the game was much tougher, but it got easier as i got more weapons. i think i switched it to easy mode at some point in the beginning of the game to get through the tough parts

fun game though, and i recommend playing the whole part 1 of the game before the next season. If you want to venture to part 2 go for it, but you will see some spoilers that may not make the next season as fun.

for me, i enjoyed part 2 a ton. not sure why there was so much critiquing of it, wasn't sure where it came from. i think it was also the beginning of the "woke" movement in our country, so maybe that was what influenced people's opinions. For me, i enjoyed it a bunch, little long, but was fun

TLOU2 is a great game.

ETA: Fighting the Rat King on Hard+ was one of the most fun game experiences I've ever had. Still need to go back and do it in Survivor mode. It makes me laugh that gamers would willingly pass it up because "WOKE!"

oh wow, i didn't realize (or forgot) that guy's name was the rat king. that one was fun,threw the kitchen sink and that M.F.'er

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

 

[Todem]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

As good as the show has been they've done a poor job on two fronts...

1. They dedicated two hours on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley when they should have been adding more depth to Joel/Ellie. Heck, an extra hour of Ellie/David and Henry/Sam would've had more of an impact to the story than those 2 wasted hours.

2. I get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

TLOU2 was even better than the masterful original. One of the all time great storytelling/apocalyptic games I have ever played.

The characters are rich, the levels (set pieces) are incredible.

If you loved the first game you’re cheating yourself not playing the second game.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

Sure. Spoilers though? Thats cool? How is this different from if it was based on a book?

 

[Todem]

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

I get what you're saying here and I know it's a trope, but this is why I don't cringe when people say that they'd rather have fewer storylines featuring gay characters, or cross-dressers (it's coming). When books, films, and games play the "religious people are all secretly evil" card, fine. Let's play cards then.

Also, to be fair, the controversy around TLOU2 centered around the story and various culture-war stuff that ND lead with. I think everybody agrees that if you like the gameplay from the first game, you'll like this one too.

I managed to avoid all the spoilers around the second game (and still don't really know). The review sites I read at the time all just focused on hating the storyline and didn't delve into what elements they hated about the story (in an effort not to spoil anything). They just said it was such a far departure from the first game it would ruin the experience. I wasn't playing that style of game when it came so it just didn't occur to me that the criticisms were politically motivated. The reviews at the time were almost overwhelmingly negative so I just decided to skip it. I did like the gameplay of the first one but the story is what captured me. If it veers too far off from Joel and Ellie vs the world, I may just leave it and enjoy the experience I had.

The backlash was incredibly toxic and quite frankly xenophobic to the highest degree.

The game….the video game is fantastic.

People take themselves far too seriously in today’s society….it’s really ridiculous.

 

[jobarules]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

As good as the show has been they've done a poor job on two fronts...

1. They dedicated two hours on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley when they should have been adding more depth to Joel/Ellie. Heck, an extra hour of Ellie/David and Henry/Sam would've had more of an impact to the story than those 2 wasted hours.

2. I get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

I think that is a really good point. For a friend of mine who didn't play the game, he said as soon as he saw the dude praying he knew he was going to be a bad guy. Having David not be so obviously bad from the start may have had a better chance of convincing viewers that "perhaps he is good" before the inevitable turn.

I thought the Bill/Frank episode was really well done but Ellie/Riley could have been much shorter and allowed for a larger arc for David.

Overall still really love the series and looking forward to the finale. Then I'll have to decide if I want to play TLOU2. It got such bad reviews at the time I skipped it because I didn't want it to ruin the first experience for me (kind of like the Matrix sequels took the shine off the original for me).

TLOU2 was even better than the masterful original. One of the all time great storytelling/apocalyptic games I have ever played.

The characters are rich, the levels (set pieces) are incredible.

If you loved the first game you’re cheating yourself not playing the second game.

Agreed. The criticism made zero sense. When I played it I was blown away.

 

[jobarules]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

Sure. Spoilers though? Thats cool? How is this different from if it was based on a book?

What spoilers? I havent seen a single one and have been very careful not to let one slip.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

Sure. Spoilers though? Thats cool? How is this different from if it was based on a book?

What spoilers? I havent seen a single one and have been very careful not to let one slip.

There have been multiple but Im trying my best to pretend I didnt read them so you tell me, Is the Rat King something that I should have learned about yet? Also, throwing out hints and vague references to the second game and ending or plotlines going forward happens a lot.

Its just a departure from the SOP around here for two decades.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Nobody has said a single thing about anything that happens in the second game. At least as far as I know.

Do you consider it a spoiler to be told that the second game gets a little dark? Were you expecting a musical? It's a zombie show.

 

[jobarules]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

Sure. Spoilers though? Thats cool? How is this different from if it was based on a book?

What spoilers? I havent seen a single one and have been very careful not to let one slip.

There have been multiple but Im trying my best to pretend I didnt read them so you tell me, Is the Rat King something that I should have learned about yet? Also, throwing out hints and vague references to the second game and ending or plotlines going forward happens a lot.

Its just a departure from the SOP around here for two decades.

Rat King is a random boss in the second game. I didnt even remember him and had to look him up. Not really a big spoiler IMO but I can see something thinking it is.

Trust me, nobody has come close to spoiling the second game.

 

[glvsav37]

my friend has a podcast for this show. Give it a listen if you dig podcasts

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

Sure. Spoilers though? Thats cool? How is this different from if it was based on a book?

What spoilers? I havent seen a single one and have been very careful not to let one slip.

There have been multiple but Im trying my best to pretend I didnt read them so you tell me, Is the Rat King something that I should have learned about yet? Also, throwing out hints and vague references to the second game and ending or plotlines going forward happens a lot.

Its just a departure from the SOP around here for two decades.

Rat King is a random boss in the second game. I didnt even remember him and had to look him up. Not really a big spoiler IMO but I can see something thinking it is.

Trust me, nobody has come close to spoiling the second game.

Not a “big” spoiler?

Since when is it OK to discuss things from the source material that haven’t happened in the show yet? Is that not the very definition of a spoiler regardless of how big or small it is?

Am I crazy? Wtf?

 

[jobarules]

This thread doesn't have enough video game talk and spoilers imo.

It's a show based on a video game. You're going to be exposed to a little video game talk.

Sure. Spoilers though? Thats cool? How is this different from if it was based on a book?

What spoilers? I havent seen a single one and have been very careful not to let one slip.

There have been multiple but Im trying my best to pretend I didnt read them so you tell me, Is the Rat King something that I should have learned about yet? Also, throwing out hints and vague references to the second game and ending or plotlines going forward happens a lot.

Its just a departure from the SOP around here for two decades.

Rat King is a random boss in the second game. I didnt even remember him and had to look him up. Not really a big spoiler IMO but I can see something thinking it is.

Trust me, nobody has come close to spoiling the second game.

Not a “big” spoiler?

Since when is it OK to discuss things from the source material that haven’t happened in the show yet? Is that not the very definition of a spoiler regardless of how big or small it is?

Am I crazy? Wtf?

No, like I said I understand what you are saying but I am trying to assure you that the spoiler isn't big. It might not even be small. Id call it inconsequential to the story and wouldnt even shock me if its not in the show.

 

[GordonGekko]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

As good as the show has been they've done a poor job on two fronts...

1. They dedicated two hours on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley when they should have been adding more depth to Joel/Ellie. Heck, an extra hour of Ellie/David and Henry/Sam would've had more of an impact to the story than those 2 wasted hours.

2. I get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

The core construction of the show was built upon appealing to Hugh Jackman to sign on. Once you get an "A Lister" to sign on, you start to get much easier traction to get other desirable actors to also come aboard a project. You can't entice someone like Jackman or a Josh Brolin to sign on unless it's pitched as prestige television aimed at deep character exploration/introspection. In effect, someone like Jackman and Brolin want the same cache that McConaghey got for True Detective S1. Which was a career boost.

When HBO HQ failed to secure Jackman, they also lost, tragically, Tom Pelphrey, who was desired to play the role of Tommy, and would be seen as capable of potentially leading the show at some point on his own. Or taking a spin off. So when Pascal was cast, there was pressure to cast someone who would be seen as naturally could be related to him by blood. So Gabriel Luna was cast.

Also if Jackman was cast, that would have convinced Evangeline Lilly to come aboard as Tess and make her a much larger character. Also the show would have gotten a larger episode order.

Pascal is mailing it in. He's upset he didn't get offered the same salary as Jackman and Brolin. He also doesn't want to be typecast as the babysitter who takes valuable child "cargo" around in shows. He has close to no real chemistry with Ramsey. At least the show figured that out early and did it's best to keep them mostly separated. You are right, there is very little character development that shows a progression of a bond between the two lead characters.

It's not hard to see why Jackman and Brolin turned down the role of Joel. The foreshadowing is extremely heavy handed on the character. He's often emasculated and glaringly so. You can't hold onto the perception of "leading man" Hollywood status and play this kind of babysitter character. Now when Jackman did Real Steel, that was more in line with what would have worked here, a rogue with a heart of gold. In this show, Joel is not a rogue at all. He's an incompetent rogue. He's not carrying a heart of gold hidden away, he's just being forced into a situation that operates as a proxy to cognitive behavioral therapy.

The operational belief now is that Lena Dunham poisoned Bella Ramsey's mind. HBO HQ wants none of that. They don't want controversy off the set. They want prestige television and not to alienate any large segment of it's potential audience. Just like with Jamie Lynn Sigler with The Sopranos, everyone figured out that the casting was wrong just a little too late.

And in a bizarre fit of the expected, because Ronda Rousey has some linkage to HBO in the past, apparently her representation has been lobbying to get her onto the show and into the main cast for a future season(s)

Not getting Jackman was a huge loss. That all but ensured no Tom Pelphrey ( IMHO, he's a fantastic and underrated actor). And it removed any potential to offer Florence Pugh her own spin off show within the same universe. When you don't get the A List guy, you don't get the A List sphere around them. You get the B List tier of casting potential.

No one expected this to be such a huge hit. If they could predict this, and if Jackman could have predicted this, he would have signed on and we'd have an entirely different show.

Now it's just HBO HQ hoping Ramsey doesn't drag them into a major scandal in the national daily media cycle. That's the best consolation prize they have left.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm just here for the "culture war" talk.

 

[jobarules]

I’m glad this didn’t end up just one big zombie show. But the lack of encounters with infected overall makes it seem like it isn’t so bad out there or it is pretty easy to avoid given knowledge accumulated over the last 20 years.

As good as the show has been they've done a poor job on two fronts...

1. They dedicated two hours on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley when they should have been adding more depth to Joel/Ellie. Heck, an extra hour of Ellie/David and Henry/Sam would've had more of an impact to the story than those 2 wasted hours.

2. I get not making it a zombie show but the lack of infected is silly. For example, in the game Ellie and David start bonding while fighting off a hoarde of infected. They could've had that scene and added another episode of David to make you think he wasn't a bad guy and then dropped the bomb in the next episode that was evil.

The core construction of the show was built upon appealing to Hugh Jackman to sign on. Once you get an "A Lister" to sign on, you start to get much easier traction to get other desirable actors to also come aboard a project. You can't entice someone like Jackman or a Josh Brolin to sign on unless it's pitched as prestige television aimed at deep character exploration/introspection. In effect, someone like Jackman and Brolin want the same cache that McConaghey got for True Detective S1. Which was a career boost.

When HBO HQ failed to secure Jackman, they also lost, tragically, Tom Pelphrey, who was desired to play the role of Tommy, and would be seen as capable of potentially leading the show at some point on his own. Or taking a spin off. So when Pascal was cast, there was pressure to cast someone who would be seen as naturally could be related to him by blood. So Gabriel Luna was cast.

Also if Jackman was cast, that would have convinced Evangeline Lilly to come aboard as Tess and make her a much larger character. Also the show would have gotten a larger episode order.

Pascal is mailing it in. He's upset he didn't get offered the same salary as Jackman and Brolin. He also doesn't want to be typecast as the babysitter who takes valuable child "cargo" around in shows. He has close to no real chemistry with Ramsey. At least the show figured that out early and did it's best to keep them mostly separated. You are right, there is very little character development that shows a progression of a bond between the two lead characters.

It's not hard to see why Jackman and Brolin turned down the role of Joel. The foreshadowing is extremely heavy handed on the character. He's often emasculated and glaringly so. You can't hold onto the perception of "leading man" Hollywood status and play this kind of babysitter character. Now when Jackman did Real Steel, that was more in line with what would have worked here, a rogue with a heart of gold. In this show, Joel is not a rogue at all. He's an incompetent rogue. He's not carrying a heart of gold hidden away, he's just being forced into a situation that operates as a proxy to cognitive behavioral therapy.

The operational belief now is that Lena Dunham poisoned Bella Ramsey's mind. HBO HQ wants none of that. They don't want controversy off the set. They want prestige television and not to alienate any large segment of it's potential audience. Just like with Jamie Lynn Sigler with The Sopranos, everyone figured out that the casting was wrong just a little too late.

And in a bizarre fit of the expected, because Ronda Rousey has some linkage to HBO in the past, apparently her representation has been lobbying to get her onto the show and into the main cast for a future season(s)

Not getting Jackman was a huge loss. That all but ensured no Tom Pelphrey ( IMHO, he's a fantastic and underrated actor). And it removed any potential to offer Florence Pugh her own spin off show within the same universe. When you don't get the A List guy, you don't get the A List sphere around them. You get the B List tier of casting potential.

No one expected this to be such a huge hit. If they could predict this, and if Jackman could have predicted this, he would have signed on and we'd have an entirely different show.

Now it's just HBO HQ hoping Ramsey doesn't drag them into a major scandal in the national daily media cycle. That's the best consolation prize they have left.

Dude youre making random **** up. Just stop