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Incredible show thus far, particularly the first 2 episodes.
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-fish-
Footballguy
Had the same feel as Walking Dead spending a season on a farm.
The episode may win an emmy, but it did absolutely nothing to further the story, which is what I'm in for. If the show becomes a bunch of disconnected one-off episodes, I'll stop watching.
-fish-
Footballguy
Frank did not exist in the game.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Yeah, but Bill did, and we knew about Frank and their relationship. It just wasn't front and center.
Stuff like this is the reason why I'm not watching this show until after it ends. Neil Druckman pushed the culture war stuff really hard when they were marketing TLOU2, so I flagged this particular part of the first game to check in and see how they handle it in the show. Sounds like it was roughly what I expected.
I'm not sure I get the "but that wasn't in the game!" comments. It's an adaptation. In the game, there are spores, so Joel has to wear a gas mask to keep from getting infected, which they didn't want to do in the show ("Pedro Pascal only does shows where he hides his face most of the time"). So they switched to tendrils instead as a means of virus spread. Is Joel supposed to crouch all the time and use workbenches to improve his weapons like in the game?
It has been a long time since I played the game, so I don't remember details, but in the link that was posted earlier explaining the detour they took for this episode, it says there are hints about Bill's sexuality in the game and that, as Joel and Ellie are driving away in the truck, she finds gay porn mags in the back seat. So they didn't change his sexuality just to make up a gay love story. The episode drew parallels between Joel and Bill, in that both seemingly preferred to go alone. Bill let someone into his life and was better off for it. By the end of the episode, Joel commits to getting Ellie where she needs to go. So it did move the story along.
It has been a long time since I played the game, so I don't remember details, but in the link that was posted earlier explaining the detour they took for this episode, it says there are hints about Bill's sexuality in the game and that, as Joel and Ellie are driving away in the truck, she finds gay porn mags in the back seat. So they didn't change his sexuality just to make up a gay love story. The episode drew parallels between Joel and Bill, in that both seemingly preferred to go alone. Bill let someone into his life and was better off for it. By the end of the episode, Joel commits to getting Ellie where she needs to go. So it did move the story along.
-fish-
Footballguy
Joel was already committed to getting her to the fireflies. The only thing that moves in their story is getting Bill's truck. The rest of the episode had nothing to do with the main story, which is Joel and Ellie's.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Sure it did. Offerman said it best “it shows that there is still something worth fighting for.” Paraphrased.
Too bad the politics forum is closed.
Too bad the politics forum is closed.
-fish-
Footballguy
There's still something worth fighting for...and then they both commit suicide.
It was like watching the beginning of "Up."
I think it's weird that people are trying to argue that this episode moved the story forward. Even Craig Mazin who wrote it called the episode "self-contained." Yeah, they get a truck. They didn't need 76 minutes to get a truck The episode was not part of the main story and wasn't intended to be.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I think Bill said he fulfilled his reason for living. It’s basically showing Joel that life is worth fighting for.
I agree on the Karl and Ellie story from up. I really enjoyed that and I really enjoyed this.
I did not play the game but I understand the gatekeeping. I was kind of like that through 5 seasons of game of thrones.
I agree on the Karl and Ellie story from up. I really enjoyed that and I really enjoyed this.
I did not play the game but I understand the gatekeeping. I was kind of like that through 5 seasons of game of thrones.
The General
Footballguy
For having everything planned so well… when the **** goes down you just stand in the middle of the road upright and try shooting a bunch of people.
Come on Bill, you are better than that.
Come on Bill, you are better than that.
beer 30
Footballguy
Lot of variables to answer that question, where are you located? have you already been prepping like Bill? Just on the surface I'd say it would be difficult to impossible unless you dedicated your life to it with the one specific goal of sheltering in place for the duration of whatever the apocalypse is. As for the gas burner **** out side the fence? I don't think one guy could pull that off. Go out to the woods and dig a hole deep enough to ensnare a full size man...then do it 50 or 60 more times. That alone would take forever and probably kill most of us. Then you have to know infrastructure stuff to keep the electric and gas on which I don't know anyone in my circles that would be able to pull that off.
Yea, first thing I thought was you spend your life prepping for this moment and the best you got is a standing in the road with a bolt action hunting rifle shooting dudes already on fire. Stay in the house and watch the light show, grab one of the 50 AR's you have stashed in the basement and hone your skills maybe but just standing in the middle of the road unprotected? [RandyMoss]Come on man![\RandyMoss]
And for icing on the cake, telling Frank, "Get a hold of Joel, he'll take care of you because you can't."
The General
Footballguy
Episode was fine. A bit sappy and heavy handed with the love story. Was better than Lifetime channel but not amazing either - on par with The Walking Dead for me and not the good first couple seasons.
No attachment to the video game so don’t care that they are mixing it up. I like the attempts to fill in what happened.
No attachment to the video game so don’t care that they are mixing it up. I like the attempts to fill in what happened.
The General
Footballguy
Pedro Pascal doing all the heavy lifting so far. I mean he’s the main character so he has all the material but he’s doing an excellent job.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
liked it a lot. don’t care about allegiance to a game.
The General
Footballguy
Would have likely been just as corny. That was some sappy writing TBH.
dkp993
Footballguy
While I admit I hit the fast forward once they started making out and went to bed. I thought the episode was fantastic. I loved walking dead for the first couple seasons, but what I loved about it is what hooked me in the first couple episodes and that was how people were dealing with this (particularly Morgan and his inability to kill his zombie wife) I don’t need another show where they just go across country killing zombies. The human component is what will make the show great.
I absolutely believe seeing how people survived for 20 years moved the story forward.
I absolutely believe seeing how people survived for 20 years moved the story forward.
TripItUp
Footballguy
yeah, that struck me as rather absurd...
TripItUp
Footballguy
Sure you do. If people loved the themes and plots of the game, they probably don't want to see that messed with as it redefines their ideal of what the show should be about.
I had never even heard of the video game, so I don't have any skin in the game but the homosexuality angle just seemed like a rather bizarre twist based on the first two episodes.
FTR, I liked the episode and the show as a whole is the best thing going right now.
The General
Footballguy
I mean I get the trying to humanize people and give back stories to how people survived and what they did. Obviously that these happened to be gay people made no difference.
Setting up this in about 30 minutes start to finish is insanely hard to do effectively from a story telling standpoint.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Meh
EZD222
Footballguy
My wife was crying by the end of the episode and I thoroughly enjoyed it (as a non-video game player). It was a filler episode but it was an A+ filler episode. Hell Breaking Bad made The Fly episode and that's still one of the more memorable eps from the series.
If this show was primarily geared to the video game players it would not nearly garner the audience it has now and the producers know they need that balance to expand to a wider demo. The video game audience are going to continue to watch because ultimately their appetite is going to be satiated when they dive back into that story arc.
If this show was primarily geared to the video game players it would not nearly garner the audience it has now and the producers know they need that balance to expand to a wider demo. The video game audience are going to continue to watch because ultimately their appetite is going to be satiated when they dive back into that story arc.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Yikes
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I, for one, am shocked - SHOCKED, I TELL YA - that so many people got triggered last night.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Didn’t advance the story yada yada…….that episode was awesome tv. I watch shows to be entertained and that episode was incredible.
dkp993
Footballguy
Huh?
The General
Footballguy
This was my beef. Way too little time to develop this. Just starting to get into the main guy and the girl and they spring this 30 year story arc in like 30 mins.
Was ok just not super great episode for me.
dkp993
Footballguy
So ****ty medicine tasting water is the last thing you drink? Yeah no. Wine good please
jamny
Footballguy
But the wine probably tasted like crap with the pills in it.
dkp993
Footballguy
Close. Wine with meds, then more wine. Lol.
The General
Footballguy
That Beaujolais they were drinking is like a 15 dollar bottle…but point taken I did think the same thing
jamny
Footballguy
That's my price point for wine, but I'm not a Beaujolais fan. Too fruity. But it does probably go well with rabbit.That Beaujolais they were drinking is like a 15 dollar bottle…but point taken I did think the same thing
The General
Footballguy
If it’s my last bottle I’m pulling out they good stuff and I’m going a bottle each minimum…then the powder…then another glass til I’m out!That's my price point for wine, but I'm not a Beaujolais fan. Too fruity. But it does probably go well with rabbit.That Beaujolais they were drinking is like a 15 dollar bottle…but point taken I did think the same thing
TLEF316
Footballguy
Agreed that Offerman just standing in the middle of the road firing a bolt action rifle was incredibly strange and made no sense. And you obviously had to suspend disbelief in terms of him getting all that set up and keeping it all working for all those years.
Never played the game, so "it didn't happen there" doesn't bother me at all. Thought it was a very odd choice to have a filler episode (even if it advanced the plot with them getting the truck) so early in the run. Combine\ that with the gay angle (which some people will obviously have a problem with) and they certainly ran the risk of derailing some of the early momentum.
Certainly not what I was expecting or hoping for (I'm a big Offerman fan, so disappointed that he wont be in more episodes) but it was well done television.
Never played the game, so "it didn't happen there" doesn't bother me at all. Thought it was a very odd choice to have a filler episode (even if it advanced the plot with them getting the truck) so early in the run. Combine\ that with the gay angle (which some people will obviously have a problem with) and they certainly ran the risk of derailing some of the early momentum.
Certainly not what I was expecting or hoping for (I'm a big Offerman fan, so disappointed that he wont be in more episodes) but it was well done television.
wazoo11
Footballguy
It was a minor subplot to them looking for the battery
The creators of the show opted for drama over action
dkp993
Footballguy
This was my biggest take away. Im a fan too and was looking forward to him being a part of the ongoing show.
wazoo11
Footballguy
(She finds a love interest in the first game dlc And part II)
dkp993
Footballguy
And, imo, the reason the show will have staying power.
An entire episode dedicated to a love story of a minor character. Horrible
Sorry if a spoiler but in the game she's a lesbian and they hinted at it in epaiode 1 when she ignored the boyfriend question.
It was boring as hell. Well acted no doubt but you were entertained by that?
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Yup. Slice of beauty in a sea of misery. Might even rewatch it.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Guess Linda Ronstadt’s Long Long Time has had a huge run up the chart. Streaming up 5000% week over week.
wazoo11
Footballguy
I'm totally fine with it
There are parts from II (game) where I literally was on the edge of my seat game play wise - and if they choose not to use it - so be it I guess
wazoo11
Footballguy
Stranger things effect
fatness
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Natural beauty as well
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