***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Officer Pete Malloy]

And the whole thing with the old dude not wanting to give the blond chick the gun. It's really about suicide? There's no other way to kill yourself except for a gun?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

It was a solid start to the season but I didn't see anything that showed me massive improvement from the flaws of last year. I'll keep recording the show but won't watch the next few episodes unless I hear some great things in this thread.

Why do they not steal a better RV? How many times do we need to see that piece of crap break down before someone says "Hey, let's steal one of the thousand of vehicles abandoned in the streets!"? What kind of lookout is the old man? How do that many zombies show up? Didn't they show the zombies were able to smell the living in season one? Why didn't they smell anyone when they were walking past? What kind of parent lets their kid walk up on a deer like that?

I think I'm getting grumpy as I age. The acting was crappy. The characters...ugh. The plot? So melodramatic. at the blatant Hyundai placement. I really want to like this show. But it's not nearly as good as I wish it were. The hunter guy is fantastic. Love that dude. I wouldn't mind seeing everyone else die.

agree. I do enjoy the show enough to keep me watching, but I hate when horror/thriller stories have dumb characters. What's worse is when the dumb characters have dumb children. I hope Sophia is next.

How hard would it be to find a couple of armored cars?

So they can stop the bullets and RPG rounds the zombies are firing at the humans?

So that if they do get stuck somewhere the zombies can't get in. AND the size and weight of the car can be used to clear paths. That was actually just the first thing that popped into my head. I know that instead of Grandpa's POS RV I'd find a Hummer or something.

And I also agree that having Ted Nugent ride around on his chopper is a really stupid idea.

One thing to consider is that armored vehicles get very poor gas mileage because of their weight.Hummers are one of the least reliable big SUV's - you'd want to go with one of the Toyotas (Land Cruiser, Sequoia or Lexus LX470).

I'm not talking about buying one of them. Hell cars are disposable at this point. Just go pick one from the trees if you need a new one.

I disagree...within a few months all of the car batteries will be dead, and eventually the cars sitting around with gasoline in them will develop fuel-related problems (injectors, lines, fuel pump), will get moisture in the oil and the seals will dry up.

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with here. These people don't have any other options but the crappy RV?

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

And Rick's monologues - stop. Maybe it's because he's not American but listening to his breathy, melodramatic monologues makes me want to 'opt out'.

Those make me cringe. And I agree with whoever said these folks are terrible scavengers. We're supposed to believe these people have been smart enough to adapt to life with zombies? The only person who seems like he's changed his behavior is the hunter. He's clearly learned some of their habits and has used that to improve his survival odds. The others are just delaying the inevitable.

And who cares if a car breaks down and you don't know how to fix it? At that point you abandon it and grab one of the other thousands of cars. Is that any harder than needing to constantly grab some new part at inopportune times?

Last year they showed great care at avoiding zombie blood. I can buy the theory they thought that was how they could get infected but realized they're wrong (though they never mentioned that and instead had the characters totally change their style). But the people...are all so dumb!

I'd generally just leave a show quietly once it loses me. But I really hate the fact this show has such tremendous potential yet seems to awkwardly lurch forward down the path of mediocrity. So much wasted potential drives me insane.

Like spending more time in the CDC underground lab. I could think of plenty of ways to draw that out way more, and make it way more interesting and end it without the need for the "Oh I almost forgot, I happen to have a hand grenade that has never been mentioned before and it is just the thing we need to escape."

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Getting gas shouldn't be a problem, either.

Gasoline degrades over time and eventually it will become unusable.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Getting gas shouldn't be a problem, either.

Gasoline degrades over time and eventually it will become unusable.

How long is "over time"?

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

It was a solid start to the season but I didn't see anything that showed me massive improvement from the flaws of last year. I'll keep recording the show but won't watch the next few episodes unless I hear some great things in this thread.

Why do they not steal a better RV? How many times do we need to see that piece of crap break down before someone says "Hey, let's steal one of the thousand of vehicles abandoned in the streets!"? What kind of lookout is the old man? How do that many zombies show up? Didn't they show the zombies were able to smell the living in season one? Why didn't they smell anyone when they were walking past? What kind of parent lets their kid walk up on a deer like that?

I think I'm getting grumpy as I age. The acting was crappy. The characters...ugh. The plot? So melodramatic. at the blatant Hyundai placement. I really want to like this show. But it's not nearly as good as I wish it were. The hunter guy is fantastic. Love that dude. I wouldn't mind seeing everyone else die.

agree. I do enjoy the show enough to keep me watching, but I hate when horror/thriller stories have dumb characters. What's worse is when the dumb characters have dumb children. I hope Sophia is next.

How hard would it be to find a couple of armored cars?

So they can stop the bullets and RPG rounds the zombies are firing at the humans?

So that if they do get stuck somewhere the zombies can't get in. AND the size and weight of the car can be used to clear paths. That was actually just the first thing that popped into my head. I know that instead of Grandpa's POS RV I'd find a Hummer or something.

And I also agree that having Ted Nugent ride around on his chopper is a really stupid idea.

One thing to consider is that armored vehicles get very poor gas mileage because of their weight.Hummers are one of the least reliable big SUV's - you'd want to go with one of the Toyotas (Land Cruiser, Sequoia or Lexus LX470).

I'm not talking about buying one of them. Hell cars are disposable at this point. Just go pick one from the trees if you need a new one.

I disagree...within a few months all of the car batteries will be dead, and eventually the cars sitting around with gasoline in them will develop fuel-related problems (injectors, lines, fuel pump), will get moisture in the oil and the seals will dry up.

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with here. These people don't have any other options but the crappy RV?

They should find an alternative to the crappy RV but I'm just pointing out that cars can't be treated as disposable in the that world.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Getting gas shouldn't be a problem, either.

Gasoline degrades over time and eventually it will become unusable.

How long is "over time"?

A few months to years, depending on how it's stored, the weather, etc. The gas in tanks of cars sitting outside would go bad the fastest. Diesel fuel will last longer, but it has it's own issues with developing algae.

 

[roadkill1292]

Getting gas shouldn't be a problem, either.

Gasoline degrades over time and eventually it will become unusable.

How long is "over time"?

A few months to years, depending on how it's stored, the weather, etc. The gas in tanks of cars sitting outside would go bad the fastest. Diesel fuel will last longer, but it has it's own issues with developing algae.

The way this group is dissipating, I don't think they have that long to worry. They're not smart enough to outlast the usable gas.

 

[scoobygang]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.

I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

 

[roadkill1292]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

It's a pretty dumb show all around. Yet, here we are.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.

I disagree. There is a big difference between asking the viewers to buy into the basic premise of the show (zombies) and asking us to accept very large lapses in logic and reality. This is a mistake I think a lot of screenwriters and directors make. If you want me to be invested in this show about something totally extraordinary happening in the real world you better make it realistic.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

Reading World War Z now.

 

[jamny]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

Reading World War Z now.

Great book. Walking Dead probably ruined any chance of that being made into a series. The movie will never do it justice.

 

[Copeman]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

Reading World War Z now.

Me too. Bout midway through.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I think we just have to accept that the producers of the show have zero interest in making the show realistic at all.

I have to chuckle when this comes up regarding the rules of zombie behaviour.

They are allowed to make up any rules they want with the zombies, but at least have the characters behave with some common sense.

1. You are assuming everyone who survives has common sense to begin with (most don't)2. You are assuming (pretend now that this really did happen) that every person who has common sense would still have common sense while being chased by zombies, knowing the world might be over as you know it and pretty much everyone you have ever known is dead. And the strong likely hood that you are just prolonging your life and the odds are heavily against you that you'll ever survive.

 

[Copeman]

I'm surprised how many people on these boards/in this thread seem to be experts on something that doesn't exist.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Do none of the survivors think that the bowhunter guy being on a chopper is a bad idea? I mean, I understand being on something smaller to get around traffic jams, but A) they make a lot of noise, attracting attention and B) they offer little to no protection from zombie teeth. I mean, we all know that you want to look cool and all, but I'm not going to have a horde of zombies coming our way just because you think you look cool.

My thoughts exactly. A gunshot is around 140db but that chopper is probably a consistent 100db going down the road. It would be safer for them to be driving down the road yelling out the window "Hey walkers, here we are come and eat us!!!" as loud as they can.I think we just have to accept that the producers of the show have zero interest in making the show realistic at all.

It's a show about zombies.....

That isn't an excuse. This isn't an episode of Scooby Doo. If it's just a "show about zombies" why all the character development? Why are there multiple story lines that have nothing to do with zombies? Why do they take the time to set up realistic relationships and situations but then do a ham-handed job in other areas?

Because many people are idiots and when under duress not everyone makes rash decisions. Odds of living realistically is next to none, not a lot of sense to prolong your life since everyone you know is dead and you are with people you are force to trust and work with but in normal circumstances would never hang around with or trust for a minute.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

I'm surprised how many people on these boards/in this thread seem to be experts on something that doesn't exist.

It's still real to me dammit!

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Do none of the survivors think that the bowhunter guy being on a chopper is a bad idea? I mean, I understand being on something smaller to get around traffic jams, but A) they make a lot of noise, attracting attention and B) they offer little to no protection from zombie teeth. I mean, we all know that you want to look cool and all, but I'm not going to have a horde of zombies coming our way just because you think you look cool.

My thoughts exactly. A gunshot is around 140db but that chopper is probably a consistent 100db going down the road. It would be safer for them to be driving down the road yelling out the window "Hey walkers, here we are come and eat us!!!" as loud as they can.I think we just have to accept that the producers of the show have zero interest in making the show realistic at all.

It's a show about zombies.....

That isn't an excuse. This isn't an episode of Scooby Doo. If it's just a "show about zombies" why all the character development? Why are there multiple story lines that have nothing to do with zombies? Why do they take the time to set up realistic relationships and situations but then do a ham-handed job in other areas?

Because many people are idiots and when under duress not everyone makes rash decisions. Odds of living realistically is next to none, not a lot of sense to prolong your life since everyone you know is dead and you are with people you are force to trust and work with but in normal circumstances would never hang around with or trust for a minute.

Not buying it. It's lazy, sloppy writing.

 

[scoobygang]

Great book. Walking Dead probably ruined any chance of that being made into a series. The movie will never do it justice.

I loved World War Z. And I'm on record as saying that I thought an anthology show drawn from it would be awesome. But anthology shows are way out of favor. I haven't read Kirkman's series. I'm sure it's better than the show, but I also suspect I wouldn't like it much. Because I think the whole "look at how much of our humanity we lose" angle is kind of cliched and played out. Over two hours in a movie? Sure. As a continuing series? Ugh. If you do make the point, I think it needs to be done far more subtledly than this series seems capable of doing it. My wife told me this morning that she had trouble sleeping after watching the show last night. I told her I had trouble NOT sleeping during the Jesus soliloquy.

 

[Colts Win]

I have Directv and I thought they are now doing AMC in HD.

Is this show just not shot in HD or do I need to check some settings?

 

[badmojo1006]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

Reading World War Z now.

Great book. Walking Dead probably ruined any chance of that being made into a series. The movie will never do it justice.

From what I hear, the movie will be radically different from the book.

 

[jamny]

I have Directv and I thought they are now doing AMC in HD.Is this show just not shot in HD or do I need to check some settings?

Yeah, you have to reset your Season Pass (or whatever they call it) to record the HD version. Happened to me too.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Great book. Walking Dead probably ruined any chance of that being made into a series. The movie will never do it justice.

I loved World War Z. And I'm on record as saying that I thought an anthology show drawn from it would be awesome. But anthology shows are way out of favor. I haven't read Kirkman's series. I'm sure it's better than the show, but I also suspect I wouldn't like it much. Because I think the whole "look at how much of our humanity we lose" angle is kind of cliched and played out. Over two hours in a movie? Sure. As a continuing series? Ugh. If you do make the point, I think it needs to be done far more subtledly than this series seems capable of doing it. My wife told me this morning that she had trouble sleeping after watching the show last night. I told her I had trouble NOT sleeping during the Jesus soliloquy.

I am just starting World War Z and I keep thinking this would be a great miniseries, but you are right it would be hard to do it right.

 

[jamny]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

Reading World War Z now.

Great book. Walking Dead probably ruined any chance of that being made into a series. The movie will never do it justice.

From what I hear, the movie will be radically different from the book.

It pretty much has to be I think.

 

[Copeman]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.I got sucked into watching the show again. I don't think it's improved much, but maybe I'm being too hard on it.

Fair point. I don't think any of us are being too hard on it. Yes, it's a show about zombies. But we've been incredibly spoiled over the years. 28 Days later is an excellent zombie movie that deals with the whole people are the true monsters angle. WWZ is a great book that shows us how people would act and gives believable zombie actions. Hell, even Zombieland, while a zombie comedy, showed us how they could actually survive in such a world. There have been numerous zombie movies/books over the years that have raised the zombie bar. After seeing/reading various other zombie storylines it really shows how weak and poorly developed this one is. Yes, even accounting for the fact it's a show about zombies. It seems the writers don't have a clear view how to get where they're trying to take the show.

Reading World War Z now.

Great book. Walking Dead probably ruined any chance of that being made into a series. The movie will never do it justice.

From what I hear, the movie will be radically different from the book.

It pretty much has to be I think.

If not, the cast would be HUGE.

 

[Copeman]

The new show "Hell on Wheels", which will come on right after TWD, looks pretty good. Might have to check that out.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Do none of the survivors think that the bowhunter guy being on a chopper is a bad idea? I mean, I understand being on something smaller to get around traffic jams, but A) they make a lot of noise, attracting attention and B) they offer little to no protection from zombie teeth. I mean, we all know that you want to look cool and all, but I'm not going to have a horde of zombies coming our way just because you think you look cool.

My thoughts exactly. A gunshot is around 140db but that chopper is probably a consistent 100db going down the road. It would be safer for them to be driving down the road yelling out the window "Hey walkers, here we are come and eat us!!!" as loud as they can.I think we just have to accept that the producers of the show have zero interest in making the show realistic at all.

It's a show about zombies.....

That isn't an excuse. This isn't an episode of Scooby Doo. If it's just a "show about zombies" why all the character development? Why are there multiple story lines that have nothing to do with zombies? Why do they take the time to set up realistic relationships and situations but then do a ham-handed job in other areas?

Because many people are idiots and when under duress not everyone makes rash decisions. Odds of living realistically is next to none, not a lot of sense to prolong your life since everyone you know is dead and you are with people you are force to trust and work with but in normal circumstances would never hang around with or trust for a minute.

Not buying it. It's lazy, sloppy writing.

Taken from Sepinwall, seems to fit here

Apparently none of you watched Lost or 24, two very popular plot-centric action shows where numerous episodes were devoted to very little actual plot development in order to deliver suspense, character development, and introduce new subplots.

You may not have liked it, but calling it bad writing because they were searching for a missing girl is really unfair. The world has ended. If you think about it, surviving that would be a very mundane existence. Even the graphic novel itself has been punctuated by short bursts of action after long periods of tension and uncertainty. What were you expecting, exactly? Die Hard with the undead?

 

[badmojo1006]

The new show "Hell on Wheels", which will come on right after TWD, looks pretty good. Might have to check that out.

When I first saw the ads, I thought they made "Red Dead Redemption" into a TV show

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Do none of the survivors think that the bowhunter guy being on a chopper is a bad idea? I mean, I understand being on something smaller to get around traffic jams, but A) they make a lot of noise, attracting attention and B) they offer little to no protection from zombie teeth. I mean, we all know that you want to look cool and all, but I'm not going to have a horde of zombies coming our way just because you think you look cool.

My thoughts exactly. A gunshot is around 140db but that chopper is probably a consistent 100db going down the road. It would be safer for them to be driving down the road yelling out the window "Hey walkers, here we are come and eat us!!!" as loud as they can.I think we just have to accept that the producers of the show have zero interest in making the show realistic at all.

It's a show about zombies.....

That isn't an excuse. This isn't an episode of Scooby Doo. If it's just a "show about zombies" why all the character development? Why are there multiple story lines that have nothing to do with zombies? Why do they take the time to set up realistic relationships and situations but then do a ham-handed job in other areas?

Because many people are idiots and when under duress not everyone makes rash decisions. Odds of living realistically is next to none, not a lot of sense to prolong your life since everyone you know is dead and you are with people you are force to trust and work with but in normal circumstances would never hang around with or trust for a minute.

Not buying it. It's lazy, sloppy writing.

Taken from Sepinwall, seems to fit here

Apparently none of you watched Lost or 24, two very popular plot-centric action shows where numerous episodes were devoted to very little actual plot development in order to deliver suspense, character development, and introduce new subplots.

You may not have liked it, but calling it bad writing because they were searching for a missing girl is really unfair. The world has ended. If you think about it, surviving that would be a very mundane existence. Even the graphic novel itself has been punctuated by short bursts of action after long periods of tension and uncertainty. What were you expecting, exactly? Die Hard with the undead?

That's not what I'm talking about. I wasn't finding fault with the whole thing about them searching for the girl. Oh and Lost and 24 were crappy shows so I'm not sure Steppenwolf should be using them as examples.

 

[scoobygang]

I have no problem with an episode devoted to finding Sophia. I do think that Sophia hasn't been developed enough to devote much more time to finding her. But the episode wasn't only devoted to finding Sophia. It was also devoted to them finding a church just so that we could get two leaden pieces of explanatory internal dialogue delivered for our benefit (and to get a creepy but implausible action sequence). And it was devoted to a completely inexplicable scene of "wonder" with them encouraging the boy to go commune with a deer WHEN THEY WERE STILL LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE GIRL.

This isn't about plausibility. It's about taking the characters and situations seriously on the terms that the show itself has set for us. And if a character is driven to find that girl, because that's in his nature, it undermines everything the show has told us to have him distracted by a moment of natural grace like he has ADHD or something.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I have no problem with an episode devoted to finding Sophia. I do think that Sophia hasn't been developed enough to devote much more time to finding her. But the episode wasn't only devoted to finding Sophia. It was also devoted to them finding a church just so that we could get two leaden pieces of explanatory internal dialogue delivered for our benefit (and to get a creepy but implausible action sequence). And it was devoted to a completely inexplicable scene of "wonder" with them encouraging the boy to go commune with a deer WHEN THEY WERE STILL LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE GIRL.

This isn't about plausibility. It's about taking the characters and situations seriously on the terms that the show itself has set for us. And if a character is driven to find that girl, because that's in his nature, it undermines everything the show has told us to have him distracted by a moment of natural grace like he has ADHD or something.

Exactly.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Do none of the survivors think that the bowhunter guy being on a chopper is a bad idea? I mean, I understand being on something smaller to get around traffic jams, but A) they make a lot of noise, attracting attention and B) they offer little to no protection from zombie teeth. I mean, we all know that you want to look cool and all, but I'm not going to have a horde of zombies coming our way just because you think you look cool.

My thoughts exactly. A gunshot is around 140db but that chopper is probably a consistent 100db going down the road. It would be safer for them to be driving down the road yelling out the window "Hey walkers, here we are come and eat us!!!" as loud as they can.I think we just have to accept that the producers of the show have zero interest in making the show realistic at all.

It's a show about zombies.....

That isn't an excuse. This isn't an episode of Scooby Doo. If it's just a "show about zombies" why all the character development? Why are there multiple story lines that have nothing to do with zombies? Why do they take the time to set up realistic relationships and situations but then do a ham-handed job in other areas?

Because many people are idiots and when under duress not everyone makes rash decisions. Odds of living realistically is next to none, not a lot of sense to prolong your life since everyone you know is dead and you are with people you are force to trust and work with but in normal circumstances would never hang around with or trust for a minute.

Not buying it. It's lazy, sloppy writing.

Taken from Sepinwall, seems to fit here

Apparently none of you watched Lost or 24, two very popular plot-centric action shows where numerous episodes were devoted to very little actual plot development in order to deliver suspense, character development, and introduce new subplots.

You may not have liked it, but calling it bad writing because they were searching for a missing girl is really unfair. The world has ended. If you think about it, surviving that would be a very mundane existence. Even the graphic novel itself has been punctuated by short bursts of action after long periods of tension and uncertainty. What were you expecting, exactly? Die Hard with the undead?

That's not what I'm talking about. I wasn't finding fault with the whole thing about them searching for the girl. Oh and Lost and 24 were crappy shows so I'm not sure Steppenwolf should be using them as examples.

Think it's fairly clear you haven't liked this show so why waste your time watching it? Are you the type of person who watched The Killing but instead of just turning it off, watched it then cried about it on message boards? Also what have you written that's been made into film or TV since you seem to pretend to know how to write. TIA

 

[Walton Goggins]

I have no problem with an episode devoted to finding Sophia. I do think that Sophia hasn't been developed enough to devote much more time to finding her. But the episode wasn't only devoted to finding Sophia. It was also devoted to them finding a church just so that we could get two leaden pieces of explanatory internal dialogue delivered for our benefit (and to get a creepy but implausible action sequence). And it was devoted to a completely inexplicable scene of "wonder" with them encouraging the boy to go commune with a deer WHEN THEY WERE STILL LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE GIRL. This isn't about plausibility. It's about taking the characters and situations seriously on the terms that the show itself has set for us. And if a character is driven to find that girl, because that's in his nature, it undermines everything the show has told us to have him distracted by a moment of natural grace like he has ADHD or something.

Can't expect given the situation for those people to act logically/rationally all the time.

 

[Copeman]

Yikes. Lots of people trying to take this show way too seriously. For whatever reason.....

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I have no problem with an episode devoted to finding Sophia. I do think that Sophia hasn't been developed enough to devote much more time to finding her. But the episode wasn't only devoted to finding Sophia. It was also devoted to them finding a church just so that we could get two leaden pieces of explanatory internal dialogue delivered for our benefit (and to get a creepy but implausible action sequence). And it was devoted to a completely inexplicable scene of "wonder" with them encouraging the boy to go commune with a deer WHEN THEY WERE STILL LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE GIRL. This isn't about plausibility. It's about taking the characters and situations seriously on the terms that the show itself has set for us. And if a character is driven to find that girl, because that's in his nature, it undermines everything the show has told us to have him distracted by a moment of natural grace like he has ADHD or something.

I half way expected the deer to turn and look at the boy with like a hole in body. ZOMBIE DEER!!!!!Then while they are running for the ZEER. Zasquatch steps out and starts chasing them.

 

[scoobygang]

Yikes. Lots of people trying to take this show way too seriously. For whatever reason.....

Well, the show wants to be taken seriously. AMC could deliver on its tag line of "Gory Matters Here." They could just make a hardcore zombie survival series. It could be fun. They've decided not to do that. They've made the decision to make the pace of the show contemplative. It's clear that they want the show to be thoughtful. So it ends up being a lousy guilty pleasure and a lousy dramatic series.I'm sure you could make a great thoughtful, contemplative zombie series and you could make a fun slick zombie entertainment. Just as The Wire was a great thoughtful, contemplative cop show and many people find CSI to be a fun, slick procedural. I don't think this show does either very well. I actually did give up on the show in Season 1. I came back, despite reservations, because some critics suggested it had improved.I'm leaning toward not bothering anymore, but I have to admit that I watched LOST to the end, even while thinking that it was never remotely as good as it should have been. It's a weakness in me.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I have no problem with an episode devoted to finding Sophia. I do think that Sophia hasn't been developed enough to devote much more time to finding her. But the episode wasn't only devoted to finding Sophia. It was also devoted to them finding a church just so that we could get two leaden pieces of explanatory internal dialogue delivered for our benefit (and to get a creepy but implausible action sequence). And it was devoted to a completely inexplicable scene of "wonder" with them encouraging the boy to go commune with a deer WHEN THEY WERE STILL LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE GIRL.

This isn't about plausibility. It's about taking the characters and situations seriously on the terms that the show itself has set for us. And if a character is driven to find that girl, because that's in his nature, it undermines everything the show has told us to have him distracted by a moment of natural grace like he has ADHD or something.

Exactly.

"Yeah son, go walk all by yourself towards a deer that zombies would consider food. Don't worry about finding Sophia, we'll wait here until you're done."

 

[SacramentoBob]

I have no problem with an episode devoted to finding Sophia. I do think that Sophia hasn't been developed enough to devote much more time to finding her. But the episode wasn't only devoted to finding Sophia. It was also devoted to them finding a church just so that we could get two leaden pieces of explanatory internal dialogue delivered for our benefit (and to get a creepy but implausible action sequence). And it was devoted to a completely inexplicable scene of "wonder" with them encouraging the boy to go commune with a deer WHEN THEY WERE STILL LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE GIRL. This isn't about plausibility. It's about taking the characters and situations seriously on the terms that the show itself has set for us. And if a character is driven to find that girl, because that's in his nature, it undermines everything the show has told us to have him distracted by a moment of natural grace like he has ADHD or something.

I half way expected the deer to turn and look at the boy with like a hole in body. ZOMBIE DEER!!!!!Then while they are running for the ZEER. Zasquatch steps out and starts chasing them.

Jack Links Messin With Zasquatch commercials?

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I'm surprised how many people on these boards/in this thread seem to be experts on something that doesn't exist.

I took a class in college.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Yikes. Lots of people trying to take this show way too seriously. For whatever reason.....

 

[Insein]

These comments are not inspiring me to watch. Looks like more of the same annoying details that ruin a great concept.

 

[SacramentoBob]

These comments are not inspiring me to watch. Looks like more of the same annoying details that ruin a great concept.

It's watchable. Just some things are mind-boggling. Like last night when the post a lookout to watch for zombies. And finally they see one or two walk out from behind a car, followed by dozens more. Then they zoom out and it's zombies all over the highway as far as the eye can see and they are maybe 100 feet away. It really took that long for you to see them?

 

[Colts Win]

Let's concede that in a zombie show, the plausability of the storage rate of fossil fuels isn't necessarily the biggest bar to our suspension of disbelief.

I disagree. There is a big difference between asking the viewers to buy into the basic premise of the show (zombies) and asking us to accept very large lapses in logic and reality. This is a mistake I think a lot of screenwriters and directors make. If you want me to be invested in this show about something totally extraordinary happening in the real world you better make it realistic.

I'm guessing most people have no idea how long gas would stay good.

 

[Apple Juice]

These comments are not inspiring me to watch. Looks like more of the same annoying details that ruin a great concept.

It's watchable. Just some things are mind-boggling. Like last night when the post a lookout to watch for zombies. And finally they see one or two walk out from behind a car, followed by dozens more. Then they zoom out and it's zombies all over the highway as far as the eye can see and they are maybe 100 feet away. It really took that long for you to see them?

Yeah, there were quite a few transitional edits that didn't work at all. That was the most glaring one. Things like that don't really bother me--I could live with that. For the most part the filming of the action sequences and suspense are done very well. The problem is the writing is lazy and forced. The dialouge is hard to take seriously. If you're a fan of this show, imagine how much greater it would be if you cared about the characters, and there were emotional investments at stake with each decision they made? This show would be phenomenal. All it woudl take to elevate this show to phenomenal is competent writing and half-way decent acting. It's the approach of greatness and falling short because of lousy dialouge that makes the show frustrating.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Yikes. Lots of people trying to take this show way too seriously. For whatever reason.....

the fbg love to ##### and moan

 

[Copeman]

These comments are not inspiring me to watch. Looks like more of the same annoying details that ruin a great concept.

It's watchable. Just some things are mind-boggling. Like last night when the post a lookout to watch for zombies. And finally they see one or two walk out from behind a car, followed by dozens more. Then they zoom out and it's zombies all over the highway as far as the eye can see and they are maybe 100 feet away. It really took that long for you to see them?

Yeah, there were quite a few transitional edits that didn't work at all. That was the most glaring one. Things like that don't really bother me--I could live with that. For the most part the filming of the action sequences and suspense are done very well. The problem is the writing is lazy and forced. The dialouge is hard to take seriously. If you're a fan of this show, imagine how much greater it would be if you cared about the characters, and there were emotional investments at stake with each decision they made? This show would be phenomenal. All it woudl take to elevate this show to phenomenal is competent writing and half-way decent acting. It's the approach of greatness and falling short because of lousy dialouge that makes the show frustrating.

How do you know people don't care about the characters? Because you may not?

 

[roadkill1292]

Yikes. Lots of people trying to take this show way too seriously. For whatever reason.....

the fbg love to ##### and moan

No, this is important.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Yikes. Lots of people trying to take this show way too seriously. For whatever reason.....

the fbg love to ##### and moan

No, this is important.

Yeah because the majority of things discussed in the FFA are important.