***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (6 Viewers)

[drpill]

Okay, so for the record, I watched the most recent episode tonight and I liked it quite a bit. It had pretty good pacing, nothing seemed ridiculously forced, and the ending scenes were very intense. Kirkman did a very nice job IMO. Suddenly there's a real sense of this show's potential again.

 

[Insein]

It was a good episode. I fastforwarded through the sisters scene. I'm sure it made me miss out on the emotional attachment but ### #### knots are boring. Thank god the action is back. They are being awfully cavalier just walking around town though. Need more tension.

 

[stbugs]

OK, it's a zombie apocalypse and you're in a camp within walking distance of a large city overrun by zombies. After sunset, what do you do?A) Post sentriesB) Establish a perimiter alarm with cans tied to a string to provide an early warning systemC) Who needs sentries or a warning system? Let's sit around a campfire frying fish and swapping stories!

Thought the same thing when the guy was all proud of himself for building the rock wall around the fire. I thought - "why the hell didn't you knuckleheads build some sort of wall around camp?" At least then they'd have more protection and would be able to have a bigger fire.

Somebody posted it earlier and I agree (note, I haven't read the comics). I think Merle led some zombies to the camp. It wasn't a fortress, but they mentioned a few times that no walkers had ever gotten close. Somebody stole the truck and if it was Merle, he would have been pissed and knew how to get to the camp. Sure, they could have done more to secure the area, but I don't think those were random walkers just happening to be there, so Merle, if he did it, could have easily disabled any security he knew about.Also, how about the notion that the folks at the camp got complacent or lax because they thought they were pretty safe? Pretty sure that was the intent of that whole scene. You can act like you aren't in danger and safe, but you never are.

 

[Statorama]

OK, it's a zombie apocalypse and you're in a camp within walking distance of a large city overrun by zombies. After sunset, what do you do?A) Post sentriesB) Establish a perimiter alarm with cans tied to a string to provide an early warning systemC) Who needs sentries or a warning system? Let's sit around a campfire frying fish and swapping stories!

Thought the same thing when the guy was all proud of himself for building the rock wall around the fire. I thought - "why the hell didn't you knuckleheads build some sort of wall around camp?" At least then they'd have more protection and would be able to have a bigger fire.

Somebody posted it earlier and I agree (note, I haven't read the comics). I think Merle led some zombies to the camp. It wasn't a fortress, but they mentioned a few times that no walkers had ever gotten close. Somebody stole the truck and if it was Merle, he would have been pissed and knew how to get to the camp. Sure, they could have done more to secure the area, but I don't think those were random walkers just happening to be there, so Merle, if he did it, could have easily disabled any security he knew about.Also, how about the notion that the folks at the camp got complacent or lax because they thought they were pretty safe? Pretty sure that was the intent of that whole scene. You can act like you aren't in danger and safe, but you never are.

If Merle led them there, he could have also cut the string of cans defense perimeter. IIRC, the zombies attacked without any warning.

 

[beer 30]

Somebody posted it earlier and I agree (note, I haven't read the comics). I think Merle led some zombies to the camp. It wasn't a fortress, but they mentioned a few times that no walkers had ever gotten close. Somebody stole the truck and if it was Merle, he would have been pissed and knew how to get to the camp. Sure, they could have done more to secure the area, but I don't think those were random walkers just happening to be there, so Merle, if he did it, could have easily disabled any security he knew about.

Also, how about the notion that the folks at the camp got complacent or lax because they thought they were pretty safe? Pretty sure that was the intent of that whole scene. You can act like you aren't in danger and safe, but you never are.

Exactly what I thought. Way too many of them to be random. They have demonstrated in every episode how zombies are attracted, rather quickly I might add, to either A.) noise or B.) dinner. If Merle stole the truck he most certainly had a large group following him or could have simply drove into a group, turned around and lead them out of the city straight to the camp.

 

[Charlie Frown]

I thought the episode was decent at some parts, terrible at most. Until the ending. That's what I want to see. I sure as hell didn't turn in to a program called 'The Walking Dead' to see a bunch 'The Sitting Living'.

So the camp was really that close to the city? It seemed like they didn't have to walk very far. And why didn't they steal another car? They didn't panic when the first zombie wandered into camp the week prior? Their alarm system consisted of...cans on a string? Parts of that episode were downright painful.

But the zombies killing a bunch of folk at the end made up for a lot of stuff. I just felt like I could have turned into the show for the last 15 minutes and been up to speed.

I'm good with character development. But they should pick interesting characters and not do it in such a heavy handed fashion. I didn't give a damn about the sisters. Especially not enough to care one of 'em was zombie food. And unless handless is going to vanish from the show, showing his escape would have been a PERFECT way to show us some of his character and give us some zombie action. They could have mixed in his flashbacks with his reality. He seems like one of the very few characters I might actually care about (either love or hate). Right now I want to see the father/son combo from week 1. I'd like to see more of the redneck brothers. Everyone else can die.

I hope I'm not the only one that was rooting for a lot more people to die. I would have even liked to see the sheriff's wife or kid die. That would have caused some tension between everyone. And it would cause an issue with his whole help everyone mentality.

It was impossible all along to believe that these people would have been some of the extremely few survivors. They didn't even have many guns enough though almost everyone is dead and every Southern house must have a dozen laying around. And with access to every vehicle on the planet they keep an old run down RV and bunch of auto auction rejects? They also could have lived in any house and made it safe, yet they lived in the woods with cans on a string as their security system. Maybe with people getting killed they'll finally show them getting smart and moving to a secure location (even the gang members figured that out...).As far as the character development I was glad to finally see them flesh out the characters, even if it was a little heavy-handed with the sisters. It was certainly better than the cartoonish way they were portrayed before.

This was actually the first episode I really liked and hope it keeps up. d

They actually address this in the comic and will probably do so in the show, it looks like they have the story on track again. Best episode yet in my opinion.

 

[TeamDingo]

OK, it's a zombie apocalypse and you're in a camp within walking distance of a large city overrun by zombies. After sunset, what do you do?A) Post sentriesB) Establish a perimiter alarm with cans tied to a string to provide an early warning systemC) Who needs sentries or a warning system? Let's sit around a campfire frying fish and swapping stories!

Thought the same thing when the guy was all proud of himself for building the rock wall around the fire. I thought - "why the hell didn't you knuckleheads build some sort of wall around camp?" At least then they'd have more protection and would be able to have a bigger fire.

Build a ? Go in the woods and build a around a camp. Let us know when you get back how it went.They have a perimeter and a lookout posted. They are down 5 adult males (6 if you count Rick) when they are attacked. These are leaderless not organized or trained people. They are (were) families and random ZA survivors. They were relatively safe there and they got lax and a herd found them. People have said "not enough character development" , "not enough zombie action". Seems like that is what this delivered and now the frustrated screen writers of America want red neck flashbacks and exciting sentry duty.

 

[Carver]

Can we please get the thread title updated to "Zombie critics unite"

LOL. I stopped watching a few weeks ago but the only reason I came into this thread was to see if other people were giving up on it and I was hoping to see you get all uppity about that. Your reactions to negative comments are really weird. How come you can't handle that some people dislike the show, the thread is about the show, you should be expecting a range of comments, positive, negative and in between.

You seem really hyper sensitive. Too much coffee? It was a joke. Pretty sad if you took that to be me not being able to handle criticism, pathetic even.I don't need my zombie apocalypse tv shows teaming with reality and character development, I hardly think I've had any outrageous reactions to the criticism but if hyperbole and sensationalism are your bag more power to you.

"ZOMBIE FIGHT!!!"

 

[Insein]

One thing that annoys me about zombie movies in general is the inability of the people to make an attempt to get away from the zombies biting them. The stupid girl just stands there while a zombie bites her arm. She was almost sticking it out there for them to eat it. Then when she gets bit on the neck again, no struggle to get away. I'm sure the most normal human reaction to anything biting them is to violently jerk their arms or body back and away from whats causing the pain. To just sit there and take it is annoying to see.

 

[CBusAlex]

Really, write whatever you want. But at least be consistent.

It's a show about walking corpses eating people, so obviously a heavy dose of suspension of disbelief is required. But it has to at least be internally consistant. You can't have the streets so full of zombies one minute that it's a huge risk to run half a block and grab the bag, then have the characters walk back to camp like it's nothing in that same epsisode. It makes it impossible for the viewer to know what's important when any potential conflicts or obstacles can just appear or disappear through magic.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Really, write whatever you want. But at least be consistent.

It's a show about walking corpses eating people, so obviously a heavy dose of suspension of disbelief is required. But it has to at least be internally consistant. You can't have the streets so full of zombies one minute that it's a huge risk to run half a block and grab the bag, then have the characters walk back to camp like it's nothing in that same epsisode. It makes it impossible for the viewer to know what's important when any potential conflicts or obstacles can just appear or disappear through magic.

I'll admit my "wall" suggestion was a little extreme. You guys hit it on the head here with the inconsistent rules used. - Too risky to grab the bag on the way out of town, but yet it is so important to leave camp to go back and get it. - They have a lookout during the day, but no need for one at night- are super cautious about getting zombie blood on them in one episode, but killing them at will in others/holding somebody who's just been bitten and getting blood all over

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Really, write whatever you want. But at least be consistent.

It's a show about walking corpses eating people, so obviously a heavy dose of suspension of disbelief is required. But it has to at least be internally consistant. You can't have the streets so full of zombies one minute that it's a huge risk to run half a block and grab the bag, then have the characters walk back to camp like it's nothing in that same epsisode. It makes it impossible for the viewer to know what's important when any potential conflicts or obstacles can just appear or disappear through magic.

I'll admit my "wall" suggestion was a little extreme. You guys hit it on the head here with the inconsistent rules used.

- Too risky to grab the bag on the way out of town, but yet it is so important to leave camp to go back and get it.

- They have a lookout during the day, but no need for one at night

- are super cautious about getting zombie blood on them in one episode, but killing them at will in others/holding somebody who's just been bitten and getting blood all over

This is the one that really pisses me off. The one guy wipes the arrows on his pants, and also uses the arrows to hunt their food. I'd be perfectly okay with zombie blood being harmless. I'm also okay with zombie blood infecting others. But it seems not only do they switch from episode to episode, they'll sometimes ignore this very lesson even within the same episode! Either the characters are worried about it or they're not. I can understand if the sheriff's gang was worried about blood and the gang bangers weren't (different groups are always bound to have different beliefs unless there is clear proof). But even the sheriff himself has warned people about getting the blood on them yet he seems to be downright indifferent to getting any on him. It's maddening.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Really, write whatever you want. But at least be consistent.

It's a show about walking corpses eating people, so obviously a heavy dose of suspension of disbelief is required. But it has to at least be internally consistant. You can't have the streets so full of zombies one minute that it's a huge risk to run half a block and grab the bag, then have the characters walk back to camp like it's nothing in that same epsisode. It makes it impossible for the viewer to know what's important when any potential conflicts or obstacles can just appear or disappear through magic.

I'll admit my "wall" suggestion was a little extreme. You guys hit it on the head here with the inconsistent rules used.

- Too risky to grab the bag on the way out of town, but yet it is so important to leave camp to go back and get it.

- They have a lookout during the day, but no need for one at night

- are super cautious about getting zombie blood on them in one episode, but killing them at will in others/holding somebody who's just been bitten and getting blood all over

This is the one that really pisses me off. The one guy wipes the arrows on his pants, and also uses the arrows to hunt their food. I'd be perfectly okay with zombie blood being harmless. I'm also okay with zombie blood infecting others. But it seems not only do they switch from episode to episode, they'll sometimes ignore this very lesson even within the same episode! Either the characters are worried about it or they're not. I can understand if the sheriff's gang was worried about blood and the gang bangers weren't (different groups are always bound to have different beliefs unless there is clear proof). But even the sheriff himself has warned people about getting the blood on them yet he seems to be downright indifferent to getting any on him. It's maddening.

You would think that step 1 would be for the writers to ask "How does the zombie virus spread?". Basically make up a set of rules for that and stick to it. Either you can get it from blood splatter or you need to be bitten directly, etc..

 

[ScottyFargo]

I didn't mind the episode. I enjoyed the action and the zombie killing. I don't understand how an old folks home isn't zombie central, though. If hospitals are breeding grounds, then old folks homes can't be far behind. Kind of a stretch to turn it into a zombie fortress, but o.k., we have to imagine there are survivors living in the cities in pockets.

 

[Dr. Doofenshmirtz]

Cover story of entertainment weekly i just got

 

[Harry Manback]

I didn't mind the episode. I enjoyed the action and the zombie killing. I don't understand how an old folks home isn't zombie central, though. If hospitals are breeding grounds, then old folks homes can't be far behind. Kind of a stretch to turn it into a zombie fortress, but o.k., we have to imagine there are survivors living in the cities in pockets.

Hospitals are a breeding ground because the newly infected, ie: people showing symptoms of sickness, fever, aches and pains, etc go to the hospital for treatment BEFORE they are re-animated as zombies, and before the outbreak is known to the world.These newly infected show up exhibit symptoms of normal sicknesses, pass away, and are reanimated in the morgue, or in their hospital room depending on how fast they re-animate.Old people homes don't have that issue, unless we are to believe this is not an infection but rather a supernatural event a la Dawn of the Dead, where all people who die become zombies, regardless of how they died.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I didn't mind the episode. I enjoyed the action and the zombie killing. I don't understand how an old folks home isn't zombie central, though. If hospitals are breeding grounds, then old folks homes can't be far behind. Kind of a stretch to turn it into a zombie fortress, but o.k., we have to imagine there are survivors living in the cities in pockets.

Hospitals are a breeding ground because the newly infected, ie: people showing symptoms of sickness, fever, aches and pains, etc go to the hospital for treatment BEFORE they are re-animated as zombies, and before the outbreak is known to the world.These newly infected show up exhibit symptoms of normal sicknesses, pass away, and are reanimated in the morgue, or in their hospital room depending on how fast they re-animate.Old people homes don't have that issue, unless we are to believe this is not an infection but rather a supernatural event a la Dawn of the Dead, where all people who die become zombies, regardless of how they died.

Good point on the newly infected showing up at hospitals. I was speaking from a pov that assumed dead people just turned into zombies, but that is assuming too much because the show might be figuring that out as they go along rather than working from a premise.

 

[prosopis]

I am still enjoying this show but I have to admit the "gangsters" had me

 

[Guzalot]

I am still enjoying this show but I have to admit the "gangsters" had me

I'm going to give the show the benefit of the doubt on this one. The "evil" gangsters didn't bother to check on their elderly relatives and looked after themselves. The gangsters that were victims of their situation but still had a conscience are the ones we see on the show.Yeah, it takes some suspension of disbelief but so does a zombie apocalypse.

 

[modogg]

Good point on the newly infected showing up at hospitals. I was speaking from a pov that assumed dead people just turned into zombies, but that is assuming too much because the show might be figuring that out as they go along rather than working from a premise.

I'm pretty sure the show has an idea of some of the details on the zombiue infection. The comic book has been going for years and I can't imagine they put this kind of money and effort into a show with out thinking of some of the basic things like how the zombie infection spreads. I think the premise they are trying for is supposed to be as one of the survivors who don't know what is going on. i know with the comic they approached it this way and as the story goes on they (the survivors) learn more and more about the zombies. and the gangster piece was a bit of a stretch, but they have covered most of the racial perspectives that i think they can at this point, so i have to think we are done with themand i like the theory with Merle leading the zombies to the camp, that is a good call

 

[Kirby]

How long til that fat mexican that got shot in the ### turns into a zombie and eats everyone in the nursing home?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I watched the most recent episode last night, and while the writing is still really bad, at least they're trying to develop the characters now. It's not as disappointing as the first few episodes were.

 

[WVU Alum]

I watched the most recent episode last night, and while the writing is still really bad, at least they're trying to develop the characters now. It's not as disappointing as the first few episodes were.

Kirkman penned the 4th episode.

 

[TeamDingo]

I think the premise they are trying for is supposed to be as one of the survivors who don't know what is going on. i know with the comic they approached it this way and as the story goes on they (the survivors) learn more and more about the zombies.

This.If you are familiar with the comic, you know how people turn into zombies. A bunch of isolated survivors in the woods (and the viewers) do not know yet. If the TV show follows the story at the end of this first arc/season we will know more.Having said that, there is an absence of internal consistency with what they do and what they think they know. But I do not have a problem with Andrea being drenched in blood while her sister dies in her arms.

 

[TeamDingo]

I am still enjoying this show but I have to admit the "gangsters" had me

I think if they were able to do this story over two episodes it could have been much better and less corny and groan inducing. My main problem with the writing is that with only 6 episodes everything is so clunky and heavy handed and all the characters are just drawn with broad stokes and stereotypes. So far the only characters allowed to do anything different or interesting are Daryl, Glenn and Rick. Hopefully with more time they will give the other characters stuff instead of clunky on the nose obvious dialogue for character development.

 

[Dr. Doofenshmirtz]

I enjoy it. Its a zombie show. Not going to over think it. Its not Lost

I do Ricks wife. She is the Dr from prison break.

 

[The_Hunchback]

I enjoy it. Its a zombie show. Not going to over think it. Its not Lost

I do Ricks wife. She is the Dr from prison break.

Really? I thought it was pretty close.

 

[Jobber]

The ending of Ep 4 was especially good. I think I scared my family by cheering so loud from my computer. Good ol' zombie action.

 

[CBusAlex]

I am still enjoying this show but I have to admit the "gangsters" had me

I'm going to give the show the benefit of the doubt on this one. The "evil" gangsters didn't bother to check on their elderly relatives and looked after themselves. The gangsters that were victims of their situation but still had a conscience are the ones we see on the show.Yeah, it takes some suspension of disbelief but so does a zombie apocalypse.

Is "gangster" code for "minority" in this post?

 

[NewlyRetired]

TWD got the cover of Entertainment Weekly this week.

Cover title is

The Best New Show On TV

Everything you need to know about the shocking hit series The Walking Dead

The inside article is entitled



Dead and Loving It

Audiences hungry for good TV have feasted upon The Walking Dead. The story behind how flesh eating zombies conquered television and a sneak peak at whats up next.

 

[Rustoleum]

Good point on the newly infected showing up at hospitals. I was speaking from a pov that assumed dead people just turned into zombies, but that is assuming too much because the show might be figuring that out as they go along rather than working from a premise.

I'm pretty sure the show has an idea of some of the details on the zombiue infection. The comic book has been going for years and I can't imagine they put this kind of money and effort into a show with out thinking of some of the basic things like how the zombie infection spreads. I think the premise they are trying for is supposed to be as one of the survivors who don't know what is going on. i know with the comic they approached it this way and as the story goes on they (the survivors) learn more and more about the zombies. and the gangster piece was a bit of a stretch, but they have covered most of the racial perspectives that i think they can at this point, so i have to think we are done with themand i like the theory with Merle leading the zombies to the camp, that is a good call

Totally unfamiliar with the comic, but here are my wild speculations:My first thought was that he loaded up the back of the truck with them and drove them there (well, second thought, my first thought was that it was Merle opening up the wife beater's tent to start a coup).I half-expect him to be sitting in the truck, dead of his wound, or in the process of turning zombie, so his boondock saint brother has to kill him in an upcoming episode.

 

[SPM]

Just watched the last episode and figured more people would have liked it. I'm not even that big of a zombie fan but am really enjoying this show so it was surprising to see all the negative posts in here.

 

[beer 30]

I'm not even that big of a zombie fan but am really enjoying this show so it was surprising to see all the negative posts in here.

Oh hai, new here I see, welcome t the thread. It's what we do.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Good point on the newly infected showing up at hospitals. I was speaking from a pov that assumed dead people just turned into zombies, but that is assuming too much because the show might be figuring that out as they go along rather than working from a premise.

I'm pretty sure the show has an idea of some of the details on the zombiue infection. The comic book has been going for years and I can't imagine they put this kind of money and effort into a show with out thinking of some of the basic things like how the zombie infection spreads. I think the premise they are trying for is supposed to be as one of the survivors who don't know what is going on. i know with the comic they approached it this way and as the story goes on they (the survivors) learn more and more about the zombies. and the gangster piece was a bit of a stretch, but they have covered most of the racial perspectives that i think they can at this point, so i have to think we are done with themand i like the theory with Merle leading the zombies to the camp, that is a good call

Totally unfamiliar with the comic, but here are my wild speculations:My first thought was that he loaded up the back of the truck with them and drove them there (well, second thought, my first thought was that it was Merle opening up the wife beater's tent to start a coup).I half-expect him to be sitting in the truck, dead of his wound, or in the process of turning zombie, so his boondock saint brother has to kill him in an upcoming episode.

Nice. You missed your calling.

 

[SPM]

I'm not even that big of a zombie fan but am really enjoying this show so it was surprising to see all the negative posts in here.

Oh hai, new here I see, welcome t the thread. It's what we do.

Been here forever just used to threads about TV shows that have at least an even mix of good and bad reviews.

 

[beer 30]

I'm not even that big of a zombie fan but am really enjoying this show so it was surprising to see all the negative posts in here.

Oh hai, new here I see, welcome to the thread. It's what we do.

Been here forever just used to threads about TV shows that have at least an even mix of good and bad reviews.

Spend anytime time in the old LOST threads? Think that but now we have introduced a new nuance, comic book :woot:

 

[STBootleg]

So did we ever find out if the zombie that got off the bus in the first episode was Kevin Bacon?

 

[Harry Manback]

So did we ever find out if the zombie that got off the bus in the first episode was Kevin Bacon?

Really?

 

[Harry Manback]

This one?

 

[STBootleg]

This one?

Yes, I was just kidding.

 

[Harry Manback]

This one?

Yes, I was just kidding.

There's a bunch of people who actually thought that according to the innerwebs.

 

[STBootleg]

This one?

Yes, I was just kidding.

There's a bunch of people who actually thought that according to the innerwebs.

I know, I read some of those. My dad called me(he is a huge Romero fan) after that episode and said "Did you see Kevin Bacon as a zombie?" i thought it was funny how people debated over how he looked like Kevin Bacon compared to Jim Carrey.

BTW, love a zombie series on TV.

 

[goonsquad]

This one?

Yes, I was just kidding.

There's a bunch of people who actually thought that according to the innerwebs.

I know, I read some of those. My dad called me(he is a huge Romero fan) after that episode and said "Did you see Kevin Bacon as a zombie?" i thought it was funny how people debated over how he looked like Kevin Bacon compared to Jim Carrey.

BTW, love a zombie series on TV.

I never took the term "Footloose" literally before.

 

[snogger]

I DVR it and watch it on the following Weekend so am always behind the rest of you which is why I haven't been in the thread..

Now I wish I hadn't entered this thread..

Lot's of.. Why this, why that..

Why not just sit back and enjoy the first Zombie T.V. series that each week is worth grabbing a bag of and enjoy??

 

[Northern Voice]

I think it's getting better. Say what you want about the older sister, and the abused wife, but at least they're working on giving the audience a couple more characters to potentially invest in. Does anyone know if all 6 season one episodes were complete when season 2 got picked up? I'm just wondering if they are planning on setting up the characters for the next season, or if they're going to try to force a ton of plot/action into these last two episodes.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Lot's of.. Why this, why that.. Why not just sit back and enjoy the first Zombie T.V. series that each week is worth grabbing a bag of and enjoy??

Personally, this is why I don't watch much on TV.This is basically like an average horror movie. While that's fine every once in awhile for a 90 min movie, it gets stale quickly when it's hours of TV and having to wait a week for a payoff that's not there. There was a lot of excitement and build up, and I think it just left a lot of people disappointed.

 

[snogger]

Lot's of.. Why this, why that.. :( Why not just sit back and enjoy the first Zombie T.V. series that each week is worth grabbing a bag of and enjoy??

Personally, this is why I don't watch much on TV.This is basically like an average horror movie. While that's fine every once in awhile for a 90 min movie, it gets stale quickly when it's hours of TV and having to wait a week for a payoff that's not there. There was a lot of excitement and build up, and I think it just left a lot of people disappointed.

Loving it myself.. I make sure no one is home when I watch it so I am not interrupted while watching it.. I know I'll be watching the reruns again once the season is over and anticipating the start of the next one.

 

[Rebirtha]

Catching up on the first 4 via On Demand before tomorrow. Really liked the first episode.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

The sister is just dumb.

 

[Abraham]

I'm watching, but I think the 1st episode was the high water mark. THis episode is okay. I really wish there were more zombies though, which means the character dev is lacking.