***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

You got lucky then. After about 2 or 3 months of sitting idle, gas begins to take on different characteristics.

It can take on different characteristics. I stored a car for almost a year and after charging the battery it started and ran just fine.

Why on earth would you even do that? Knowing that it can potentially destroy your engine?

 

[tdoss]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

 

[cstu]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

It's all good - I've 10,000 gallons stored in a vacuum-sealed underground storage tank.

 

[jamny]

For fans of the comics:

This thread is going to explode when they introduce the invisible zombies.

 

[pantherclub]

I think it is funny that people are freaking out about how ridiculous the sword lady is. Yea, towing zombies is a bit out there, but am curious to see the explanation (although I'll probably read it in the comics first). IMHO, the most ridiculous aspect of the show is how quick they are to start shooting the zombies, knowing that they are attracted to loud noises. A samurai sword seems like the absolute perfect weapon in a zombie apocalypse. It's relatively light-weight, and super sharp. Seems ideal for hacking down a horde of zombies.

silencers down?

Lots of silencers just floating around out there huh?

it seems like if they have access to unlimited ammo

How on earth did you come to this conclusion? They hinted and even said they were low on ammo in each of the past couple episodes.

Hershel's shotgun that held 100 rounds

We do you assume that he didn't reload when he was off-camera?

The gun would have been red hot.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Even the best of friendships can’t survive the attack of a slut



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[Dickies]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

You got lucky then. After about 2 or 3 months of sitting idle, gas begins to take on different characteristics.

I don't really buy this. I've got a classic car that barely gets driven in the winter. Come spring it fires right up and runs great. Perhaps if the fuel sits for years, but a few months should be harmless.

 

[DocGonzo]

For fans of the comics:This thread is going to explode when they introduce the invisible zombies.

Maybe they already have.

 

[Marvin]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

This is probably some story concocted by big oil to get people to buy more gas. Halfway serious about this.

 

[Marvin]

Cracked.com: 5 Reasons Why The Walking Dead Has to Get Better. Some NSFW text.

 

[jplvr]

I finally read the comics up until the point we're at now in the TV show. Some things are a little more clear, not much was spoiled for the future, and I'm contemplating reading further. Some things are different completely, some things are the same, and some things are the same, but portrayed in a different time frame or with some slight tweaks.

I think the show is much better than the comics thus far. I'm sure the comics have developed a huge extent more since this point of the story, but I think the TV show is leaps and bounds better in the sense of drama. Granted, I skimmed the comics very quickly.

If anyone is wondering, I read through #13 in the comics. #13 spoiled a little of what will most likely be the beginning of next season, so you probably want to stop at #12 if you do the same. Then again, stuff that went on in #13 in the comics may not happen at all. There are some different characters involved who may or may not be developed in the television series, so don't blame me if you read that far, they are introduced, and you are spoiled in their role.

The link to PDF files is below:

Spoiler

http://www.polvoestelar.com.mx/babilonia/Comics%20y%20Manga/Walking%20Dead,%20The/

I stopped reading for now. I'm not sure how far down the rabbit hole I want to go at this point. I'm a non-spoiler guy, so when I saw #1-12 are safe, I think you can be sure of that. I think reading further, even in the future, might be more dangerous as the writers of the show might introduce characters differently. I mean, we already know about a character with a katana and two zombie pets, but I haven't gotten that far in the comics. A character I've already seen in the comics could be introduced later in the TV show. I don't know much beyond the show, I think those sets of the comics are pretty safe, and I'm just covering my bases in case anyone complains later on after reading that far in them.

 

[jplvr]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

This is probably some story concocted by big oil to get people to buy more gas. Halfway serious about this.

Gas keeps for longer than they say.Ethanol is terrible additive when considering plastic containers. It's pretty much the worst part about owning a boat these days. Terribly destructive.

You don't want to be using old gas in your daily beater on a regular basis, but anyone acting like the gas isn't usable after 3 months is not correct. It's usable years out. It's just not "good" for an engine after a while.

 

[TexanFan02]

I finally read the comics up until the point we're at now in the TV show. Some things are a little more clear, not much was spoiled for the future, and I'm contemplating reading further. Some things are different completely, some things are the same, and some things are the same, but portrayed in a different time frame or with some slight tweaks.

I think the show is much better than the comics thus far. I'm sure the comics have developed a huge extent more since this point of the story, but I think the TV show is leaps and bounds better in the sense of drama. Granted, I skimmed the comics very quickly.

If anyone is wondering, I read through #13 in the comics. #13 spoiled a little of what will most likely be the beginning of next season, so you probably want to stop at #12 if you do the same. Then again, stuff that went on in #13 in the comics may not happen at all. There are some different characters involved who may or may not be developed in the television series, so don't blame me if you read that far, they are introduced, and you are spoiled in their role.

The link to PDF files is below:

Spoiler

http://www.polvoestelar.com.mx/babilonia/Comics%20y%20Manga/Walking%20Dead,%20The/

I stopped reading for now. I'm not sure how far down the rabbit hole I want to go at this point. I'm a non-spoiler guy, so when I saw #1-12 are safe, I think you can be sure of that. I think reading further, even in the future, might be more dangerous as the writers of the show might introduce characters differently. I mean, we already know about a character with a katana and two zombie pets, but I haven't gotten that far in the comics. A character I've already seen in the comics could be introduced later in the TV show. I don't know much beyond the show, I think those sets of the comics are pretty safe, and I'm just covering my bases in case anyone complains later on after reading that far in them.

Eh, go ahead and read them. I've read up to about #40, and while some things may be spoiled, the TV show diverges so far from the comics it doesn't really matter. For instance, there's a black man that's a strong, major character in the comics. And he would have showed before now. The TV show has T-Dog.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Cracked.com: 5 Reasons Why The Walking Dead Has to Get Better. Some NSFW text.

A lot of good points in there, actually.

 

[JoeSteeler]

I finally read the comics up until the point we're at now in the TV show. Some things are a little more clear, not much was spoiled for the future, and I'm contemplating reading further. Some things are different completely, some things are the same, and some things are the same, but portrayed in a different time frame or with some slight tweaks.

I think the show is much better than the comics thus far. I'm sure the comics have developed a huge extent more since this point of the story, but I think the TV show is leaps and bounds better in the sense of drama. Granted, I skimmed the comics very quickly.

If anyone is wondering, I read through #13 in the comics. #13 spoiled a little of what will most likely be the beginning of next season, so you probably want to stop at #12 if you do the same. Then again, stuff that went on in #13 in the comics may not happen at all. There are some different characters involved who may or may not be developed in the television series, so don't blame me if you read that far, they are introduced, and you are spoiled in their role.

The link to PDF files is below:

Spoiler

http://www.polvoeste...%20Dead,%20The/

I stopped reading for now. I'm not sure how far down the rabbit hole I want to go at this point. I'm a non-spoiler guy, so when I saw #1-12 are safe, I think you can be sure of that. I think reading further, even in the future, might be more dangerous as the writers of the show might introduce characters differently. I mean, we already know about a character with a katana and two zombie pets, but I haven't gotten that far in the comics. A character I've already seen in the comics could be introduced later in the TV show. I don't know much beyond the show, I think those sets of the comics are pretty safe, and I'm just covering my bases in case anyone complains later on after reading that far in them.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

This is probably some story concocted by big oil to get people to buy more gas. Halfway serious about this.

Gas keeps for longer than they say.Ethanol is terrible additive when considering plastic containers. It's pretty much the worst part about owning a boat these days. Terribly destructive.

You don't want to be using old gas in your daily beater on a regular basis, but anyone acting like the gas isn't usable after 3 months is not correct. It's usable years out. It's just not "good" for an engine after a while.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

 

[pantherclub]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

This is probably some story concocted by big oil to get people to buy more gas. Halfway serious about this.

Gas keeps for longer than they say.Ethanol is terrible additive when considering plastic containers. It's pretty much the worst part about owning a boat these days. Terribly destructive.

You don't want to be using old gas in your daily beater on a regular basis, but anyone acting like the gas isn't usable after 3 months is not correct. It's usable years out. It's just not "good" for an engine after a while.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

So wouldnt a newer/brand new car last a crap ton longer than a 70's era truck or an 80's era RV?And better gas mileage.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

This is probably some story concocted by big oil to get people to buy more gas. Halfway serious about this.

Gas keeps for longer than they say.Ethanol is terrible additive when considering plastic containers. It's pretty much the worst part about owning a boat these days. Terribly destructive.

You don't want to be using old gas in your daily beater on a regular basis, but anyone acting like the gas isn't usable after 3 months is not correct. It's usable years out. It's just not "good" for an engine after a while.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

So wouldnt a newer/brand new car last a crap ton longer than a 70's era truck or an 80's era RV?And better gas mileage.

Again older cars are much easier to take care of, especially when it's not easy to get parts or you aren't some master mechanic.As far as an RV, I would have no problem with having one. What better vehicle to utilize while out on the road? Can hold a bunch of people, can store alot of stuff you need to survive, has some comforts of home, etc..

But theirs caught fire so you don't have to worry about that anymore.

 

[jplvr]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

For comic guys, would this be a good product to get up to speed on things? I'm not worried about spoiling the show, and I want something physical that I can read, not just pdfs.

 

[bigbottom]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

 

[JoeSteeler]

For comic guys, would this be a good product to get up to speed on things? I'm not worried about spoiling the show, and I want something physical that I can read, not just pdfs.

If it's not something you would want to keep check your library. My local library has volumes 1-5.

 

[Usual21]

For comic guys, would this be a good product to get up to speed on things? I'm not worried about spoiling the show, and I want something physical that I can read, not just pdfs.

That has issues 1-42 I believe. Heavy as hell, though. About two inches thick and weighs about 4-5 lbs. Think bag of sugar.

 

[cstu]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

 

[cstu]

For comic guys, would this be a good product to get up to speed on things? I'm not worried about spoiling the show, and I want something physical that I can read, not just pdfs.

That has issues 1-42 I believe. Heavy as hell, though. About two inches thick and weighs about 4-5 lbs. Think bag of sugar.

Same price at B&N and you can use the 20% off coupon T3C3B4U.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

 

[Marvin]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

This is disturbing on quite a few levels.

 

[cstu]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Had a car sit for a year. Needed a new battery. Started up first time. 05 Mazda.

I know...I don't get this gas thing. I've had gas in a couple of large containers forever. I pour it in my mower and vroom...everytime.

link

This is probably some story concocted by big oil to get people to buy more gas. Halfway serious about this.

Gas keeps for longer than they say.Ethanol is terrible additive when considering plastic containers. It's pretty much the worst part about owning a boat these days. Terribly destructive.

You don't want to be using old gas in your daily beater on a regular basis, but anyone acting like the gas isn't usable after 3 months is not correct. It's usable years out. It's just not "good" for an engine after a while.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

So wouldnt a newer/brand new car last a crap ton longer than a 70's era truck or an 80's era RV?And better gas mileage.

Again older cars are much easier to take care of, especially when it's not easy to get parts or you aren't some master mechanic.As far as an RV, I would have no problem with having one. What better vehicle to utilize while out on the road? Can hold a bunch of people, can store alot of stuff you need to survive, has some comforts of home, etc..

But theirs caught fire so you don't have to worry about that anymore.

There have to be brand new cars sitting on car lots all over the place that would be far more reliable that than a 70's or 80's vehicle with a 100k on the odometer. It's just silly that they use these cars and it only makes sense for the 'look' they are going for in the show.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

This is disturbing on quite a few levels.

And while zombie marvin is still sitting in his Prius wondering why the car won't start after 9 months, I will first point and laugh, and then I will shoot him too. Then I will drive over the Prius in my 84 Ford truck. Which by the way, are very very easy to fix, and can pretty much burn any kind of gelled gasoline for quite a while before even thinking of seizing up.

 

[tdoss]

Let's be honest here. Nothing is gonna run longer and better than an old VW bug.

 

[bigbottom]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

 

[bigbottom]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

That makes sense. But didn't you say "After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless"? "Pretty much useless" is not the same thing as "not ideally suited." Even you said that the gas would still work, which makes it useful (say, if you needed to get away from immediate harm), though not ideally useful. Clearly, you overstated your point initially. It's your unwillingness to acknowledge that you did so, while continuing to cite your resume, that has me somewhat perplexed.

 

[Marvin]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

This is disturbing on quite a few levels.

And while zombie marvin is still sitting in his Prius wondering why the car won't start after 9 months, I will first point and laugh, and then I will shoot him too. Then I will drive over the Prius in my 84 Ford truck. Which by the way, are very very easy to fix, and can pretty much burn any kind of gelled gasoline for quite a while before even thinking of seizing up.

What in the world are you talking about? Prius?

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

That makes sense. But didn't you say "After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless"? "Pretty much useless" is not the same thing as "not ideally suited." Even you said that the gas would still work, which makes it useful (say, if you needed to get away from immediate harm), though not ideally useful. Clearly, you overstated your point initially. It's your unwillingness to acknowledge that you did so, while continuing to cite your resume, that has me somewhat perplexed.

Yes, after 3 months, gas will become useless, especially when there is no new(er) gas around to put on top of it. Don't know whats so hard to understand about that. Sure you will be able to drive around, but with the old gas in the tank (also accounting for more older gas being used to fill it up), the vehicle (again depending on what kind of vehicle) will eventually seize up on you. Aren't we talking about surviving here? Longeveity?

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

This is disturbing on quite a few levels.

And while zombie marvin is still sitting in his Prius wondering why the car won't start after 9 months, I will first point and laugh, and then I will shoot him too. Then I will drive over the Prius in my 84 Ford truck. Which by the way, are very very easy to fix, and can pretty much burn any kind of gelled gasoline for quite a while before even thinking of seizing up.

What in the world are you talking about? Prius?

Sorry, thats what I picture you driving.

 

[cstu]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

PRI claims that its PRI-G product could make 15 year old gas usable. Thoughts? I like the idea of using older trucks but personally I'd go for a 6.2L Ford Superduty.

 

[Marvin]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

This is disturbing on quite a few levels.

And while zombie marvin is still sitting in his Prius wondering why the car won't start after 9 months, I will first point and laugh, and then I will shoot him too. Then I will drive over the Prius in my 84 Ford truck. Which by the way, are very very easy to fix, and can pretty much burn any kind of gelled gasoline for quite a while before even thinking of seizing up.

What in the world are you talking about? Prius?

Sorry, thats what I picture you driving.

I drive an 85 Ford truck which is one better than yours. Loser.

 

[Copeman]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

PRI claims that its PRI-G product could make 15 year old gas usable. Thoughts? I like the idea of using older trucks but personally I'd go for a 6.2L Ford Superduty.

Some additives work well, yes. But after 15 years, no way. Not even the additives we sell, some coming directly from refiners can do that. And would you want to keep looking for fuel additive durig a time like this? Or just go with a vehicle that could handle older gasoline for longer periods of time?

 

[Copeman]

I drive an 85 Ford truck which is one better than yours. Loser.

Then you will survive. Although an 84 is still better.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

This side argument about whether old gasoline would work or not in a zombie apocalypse is a new low, even for nerds.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Yes, after 3 months, gas will become useless, especially when there is no new(er) gas around to put on top of it. Don't know whats so hard to understand about that. Sure you will be able to drive around, but with the old gas in the tank (also accounting for more older gas being used to fill it up), the vehicle (again depending on what kind of vehicle) will eventually seize up on you. Aren't we talking about surviving here? Longeveity?

"The zombies are about to get us. Drive, drive!!""Are you nuts? If we drive away, the vehicle will eventually seize up, depending on what kind it is!"

"Oh, yeah. I didn't think of that. Never mind."

(They get eaten.)

 

[Marvin]

This side argument about whether old gasoline would work or not in a zombie apocalypse is a new low, even for nerds.

Nerd? I drive a 1985 Ford F150, son.

 

[stbugs]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

That makes sense. But didn't you say "After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless"? "Pretty much useless" is not the same thing as "not ideally suited." Even you said that the gas would still work, which makes it useful (say, if you needed to get away from immediate harm), though not ideally useful. Clearly, you overstated your point initially. It's your unwillingness to acknowledge that you did so, while continuing to cite your resume, that has me somewhat perplexed.

Yes, after 3 months, gas will become useless, especially when there is no new(er) gas around to put on top of it. Don't know whats so hard to understand about that. Sure you will be able to drive around, but with the old gas in the tank (also accounting for more older gas being used to fill it up), the vehicle (again depending on what kind of vehicle) will eventually seize up on you. Aren't we talking about surviving here? Longeveity?

Your bolded line doesn't seem to equate to "pretty much useless." If you mean that eventually the cars will sieze up, does that mean you could keep hopping from car to car with old gas and get a few months out of that car? What is the point at which old gas can no longer be put in cars with no engine issue and work?

 

[bigbottom]

After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless. And no electricity to pump gas out of service station pumps.

Older cars are much easier to work on than newer cars.

Which is entirely my point. During a zombie apocalypse, I would think you would want to keep a car running as long as you could. Not many mechanics/stations around if and when the engine dies.

My point of contention was with the bolded, which is entirely untrue. I think you can probably find a working vehicle if yours breaks down.

It's not "entirely" untrue. I work for a fuels company, I know alot about gas/fuel. Sure gas will still "work", but the older it gets, the more damage it will do to your engine. It's that simple.

If 3-month old gas still works, I don't know that "pretty much useless" is a fair description.

If you think continually using old gas in a car won't hurt the engine and eventually having it seize up during a zombie apocalypse isn't a bad thing (pretty much useless), I don't want to be part of your group.I'll be the one to put an arrow through your head from the bed of my 84 Ford truck a few weeks later.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. A number of folks in this thread already stated that they've started up their cars with three-month old gas in the tank without incident, thus rendering your bolded statement above a fallacy. I do respect the recitation of your resume as a defense mechanism though. That's good stuff.

Not at all. But as I said, I do work in the fuels industry and do have extensive experience working on both older and newer cars, and I know what gas does to an engine the older it gets, and what engines/vehicles are best suited for such use. Gas only begins to degrade after 2 or 3 months (depending on a variety of factors). By the time more months to a year come, it is going to hurt your engine. It will break down. During a zombie apocalypse. I just know from the experience I have what would be best suited for such a situation. Nothing more than that. But go ahead and keep thinking it is. Thats also good stuff.

That makes sense. But didn't you say "After sitting idle in gas tanks for more than 3 months, gas is pretty much useless"? "Pretty much useless" is not the same thing as "not ideally suited." Even you said that the gas would still work, which makes it useful (say, if you needed to get away from immediate harm), though not ideally useful. Clearly, you overstated your point initially. It's your unwillingness to acknowledge that you did so, while continuing to cite your resume, that has me somewhat perplexed.

Yes, after 3 months, gas will become useless, especially when there is no new(er) gas around to put on top of it. Don't know whats so hard to understand about that. Sure you will be able to drive around, but with the old gas in the tank (also accounting for more older gas being used to fill it up), the vehicle (again depending on what kind of vehicle) will eventually seize up on you. Aren't we talking about surviving here? Longeveity?

See the bolded? Being able to drive around is useful. Particularly if you are trying to get away from a zombie horde bearing down on you.open scene: our tattered gang sees hundreds of zombies coming toward them from down the road. The group, struck with looks of horror and fear turn to Rick, their leader, for guidance.

Rick: "The zombie horde is almost here. Everyone into this van. We're going to put 25 miles or so between us an these zombies and then we'll regroup."

Copeman: "Rick, we can't do this. This van has been sitting here for three months. The gas in the tank is pretty much useless."

Rick turns the key and the van's engine roars to life.

Rick: "Looks like it's working to me. Everyone in, the zombies are on our ###."

Copeman: "Rick. The gas has been sitting idle in the tank for three months. It's probably starting to change characteristics. It will cause damage to the engine."

Rick: "What the hell are you talking about?!? The car is running!"

Copeman: "Well, sure, it's running now. But eventually the van's engine will be damaged and the van may seize up."

Rick: "It seems to be running just fine!"

Copeman: "Yeah, but in a week or two the van may seize up. And that's because the gas is pretty much useless."

Rick: "A week or two?!? These zombies are going to eat us in about 10 seconds. Everyone get your asses in the van."

Everyone but Copeman jumps in the van

Copeman: "I'm telling you that gas is pretty much useless. We should look for a fresher source . . . "

The zombies converge on Copeman taking him to the ground as the van speeds off into the distance, leaving the zombie horde far behind.

Lori: "The gas sure seems useful to me."

fade out. end scene.

 

[Copeman]

Yes, after 3 months, gas will become useless, especially when there is no new(er) gas around to put on top of it. Don't know whats so hard to understand about that. Sure you will be able to drive around, but with the old gas in the tank (also accounting for more older gas being used to fill it up), the vehicle (again depending on what kind of vehicle) will eventually seize up on you. Aren't we talking about surviving here? Longeveity?

"The zombies are about to get us. Drive, drive!!""Are you nuts? If we drive away, the vehicle will eventually seize up, depending on what kind it is!"

"Oh, yeah. I didn't think of that. Never mind."

(They get eaten.)

Or they do drive, and keep driving into the middle of nowhere to escape, think they are safe, and the engine dies. Now they have nothing. In the middle of nowhere. With zombies on the way.

 

[TexanFan02]

This side argument about whether old gasoline would work or not in a zombie apocalypse is a new low, even for nerds.

I don't know, the Ninja discussion was dumber, if that's possible.

 

[bigbottom]

Damn you Maurile.