***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (4 Viewers)

[Alex P Keaton]

My guesses on who dies:

Rick's Group:

Beth, Lil Asskicker

Woodbury:

Govenor, Tyrese's sister, Milton

Everyone else lives, but is scattered.

How can Beth die before giving birth to Rick's prison love child?

 

[GROMS]

decent episode my questions1. Why didnt rick just kill the gov when he had a clear chance?2. Why does Darrell bring a cross bow to an automatic weapons fight?

My thoughts exactly. The whole time Rick and the Gov. were talking I was thinking, "shoot him, shoot him, shoot him". I've always wondered why Darrell uses that crossbow. Didn't he have a handgun in his motorcycle bag in an earlier season?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Andrea - "I can't go back with the Gov"Gets in truck and goes back with the Gov.

She's a complete moron. Other than possibly Lori, she gets my vote for most annoying character through the first 4 seasons. She was also drawn to alpha-male Shane when he was strutting around trying to act like a freaking testosterone-infused roid maniac. Terrible decision making is a consistent theme with her.Beth on the other hand....

 

[flapgreen]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

How I saw it.

 

[flapgreen]

Andrea - "I can't go back with the Gov"Gets in truck and goes back with the Gov.

She's a complete moron. Other than possibly Lori, she gets my vote for most annoying character through the first 4 seasons. She was also drawn to alpha-male Shane when he was strutting around trying to act like a freaking testosterone-infused roid maniac. Terrible decision making is a consistent theme with her.Beth on the other hand....

What happens in the 4th season?

 

[flapgreen]

My guesses on who dies:

Rick's Group:

Beth, Lil Asskicker

Woodbury:

Govenor, Tyrese's sister, Milton

Everyone else lives, but is scattered.

How can Beth die before giving birth to Rick's prison love child?

How many times you think he hit it so far?

 

[Raider Nation]

Gotta give these zombies credit for their persistence.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Andrea - "I can't go back with the Gov"Gets in truck and goes back with the Gov.

She's a complete moron. Other than possibly Lori, she gets my vote for most annoying character through the first 4 seasons. She was also drawn to alpha-male Shane when he was strutting around trying to act like a freaking testosterone-infused roid maniac. Terrible decision making is a consistent theme with her.Beth on the other hand....

What happens in the 4th season?

3 seasons, whatever man. I'm getting my purple drank on. Let it be.

 

[badmojo1006]

funny stuffhttp://i.imgur.com/OJWOVVx.jpg?1

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I can't stand that episode because it's so against what I'd do.If I'm Rick and the gov says all he wants is our surrender. BAM! I blow his head off.But...let's say I'm in a good mood that day...I let him speak his mind. As soon as he says that he wants Michonne. BAM! I blow his head off.How does he not see how this goes down? You give up Michonne, then basically you'll give in to his demands anytime he threatens. What's to stop him from demanding the hottie next? You just gonna give up your people each time he asks? How does anyone follow you if you offer up Michonne? I wouldn't...there's no way I have faith in your leadership...you'll sell me out to save yourself and your kids. Screw you. This isn't rocket science.So, you're left to ponder his demand. You either give up Michonne and hope for the best. You don't give up Michonne and you're at war. Or your don't give up Michonne and you're on the run. Because of my earlier reasoning...giving up Michonne just is NOT an option. So...I'm left to war or run. I ain't running. There's always going to be bullies...time to take a stand. So...if I'm going to fight...why wait until the governor can plan to take me out? Just shoot his @zz right then and there. I'd trust that Daryl can take care of his guy...Hershel shouldn't have to worry about Poindexter...maybe he can help with gov's henchman. Andrea is a waste and no concern.Shoot gov then and there...then go back and formulate a plan for any retaliation by Woodbury.Other notes: I don't like that gov knows about my weapons. Spy or traitor, both?Andrea got back in with the gov so we could have the scene with her gathering Tyrese and his girl to help out. Only way we get them back on board. Sloppy writing. Also, maybe Andrea will finally come through and take out gov...but will probably end up being Poindexter finally driving the nail home.I absolutely hated the love scene. It just ain't happening. We're the only defense...Merle is trying to gather guns and leave...anyone could be attacking at any moment. Let's close the door and get banging.Why haven't they fortified their positions at the prison? Make it impossible for anyone to sneak into those towers. Put up plate infront of the stupid firing hole that Glenn made in the fence...how does it make sense to stand in the open with only a fence to protect you? Put up some damn plate.My son and I were discussing what we'd do...he'd hunker down at the prison and wait for the attack. I like it, if they fortified...but they didn't...it's dumb. No one gets attacked at their fort and decides to not change a single thing. Can't stand that...even the dumbest person knows that they'll just do it again. I'd take the attack to the town. When they're expecting me to be at the meet in two days...I'm assaulting the town...taking it over and using their mounted weapons against them when they return wondering why I didn't show up at the meet.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshotstab wound, I didn't see any lack of mobility.

Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

His arm was hanging at the very beginning of the episode, when he was scoping out the barn.

 

[Michael Brown]

My favorite part of the meeting in the barn...

Rick: You know, we are sitting here, you and I, like a couple of regular fellas. You do what you do, and I do what I gotta do. And now that we've been face to face, if I'm there and I gotta put you away, I won't like it. But I tell you, if it's between you and some poor ******* whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow, brother, you are going down.

Governor: There is a flip side to that coin. What if you do got me boxed in and I gotta put you down? Cause no matter what, you will not get in my way. We've been face to face, yeah. But I will not hesitate. Not for a second.

Rick: Maybe that's the way it'll be...Or, who knows?

Governor: Or maybe we'll never see each other again.

 

[flapgreen]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshot, I didn't see any lack of mobility.Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

How come it never shows them going to the bathroom? Do they ever go?

 

[flapgreen]

funny stuffhttp://i.imgur.com/OJWOVVx.jpg?1

 

[shuke]

Governor made an interesting comment when he said he knew Rick recently came across a nice stash of guns. How did he know about that?

Merle a spy?

Sending smoke signals?

 

[Disco Stu]

funny stuff

http://i.imgur.com/OJWOVVx.jpg?1

Also this

 

[Alex P Keaton]

My favorite part of the meeting in the barn...Rick: You know, we are sitting here, you and I, like a couple of regular fellas. You do what you do, and I do what I gotta do. And now that we've been face to face, if I'm there and I gotta put you away, I won't like it. But I tell you, if it's between you and some poor ******* whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow, brother, you are going down.Governor: There is a flip side to that coin. What if you do got me boxed in and I gotta put you down? Cause no matter what, you will not get in my way. We've been face to face, yeah. But I will not hesitate. Not for a second.Rick: Maybe that's the way it'll be...Or, who knows?Governor: Or maybe we'll never see each other again.

Awesome.

 

[Frostillicus]

I can't stand that episode because it's so against what I'd do.If I'm Rick and the gov says all he wants is our surrender. BAM! I blow his head off.But...let's say I'm in a good mood that day...I let him speak his mind. As soon as he says that he wants Michonne. BAM! I blow his head off.How does he not see how this goes down? You give up Michonne, then basically you'll give in to his demands anytime he threatens. What's to stop him from demanding the hottie next? You just gonna give up your people each time he asks? How does anyone follow you if you offer up Michonne? I wouldn't...there's no way I have faith in your leadership...you'll sell me out to save yourself and your kids. Screw you. This isn't rocket science.So, you're left to ponder his demand. You either give up Michonne and hope for the best. You don't give up Michonne and you're at war. Or your don't give up Michonne and you're on the run. Because of my earlier reasoning...giving up Michonne just is NOT an option. So...I'm left to war or run. I ain't running. There's always going to be bullies...time to take a stand. So...if I'm going to fight...why wait until the governor can plan to take me out? Just shoot his @zz right then and there. I'd trust that Daryl can take care of his guy...Hershel shouldn't have to worry about Poindexter...maybe he can help with gov's henchman. Andrea is a waste and no concern.Shoot gov then and there...then go back and formulate a plan for any retaliation by Woodbury.Other notes: I don't like that gov knows about my weapons. Spy or traitor, both?Andrea got back in with the gov so we could have the scene with her gathering Tyrese and his girl to help out. Only way we get them back on board. Sloppy writing. Also, maybe Andrea will finally come through and take out gov...but will probably end up being Poindexter finally driving the nail home.I absolutely hated the love scene. It just ain't happening. We're the only defense...Merle is trying to gather guns and leave...anyone could be attacking at any moment. Let's close the door and get banging.Why haven't they fortified their positions at the prison? Make it impossible for anyone to sneak into those towers. Put up plate infront of the stupid firing hole that Glenn made in the fence...how does it make sense to stand in the open with only a fence to protect you? Put up some damn plate.My son and I were discussing what we'd do...he'd hunker down at the prison and wait for the attack. I like it, if they fortified...but they didn't...it's dumb. No one gets attacked at their fort and decides to not change a single thing. Can't stand that...even the dumbest person knows that they'll just do it again. I'd take the attack to the town. When they're expecting me to be at the meet in two days...I'm assaulting the town...taking it over and using their mounted weapons against them when they return wondering why I didn't show up at the meet.

You love guns.

 

[tdoss]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

 

[BigJohn]

Governor made an interesting comment when he said he knew Rick recently came across a nice stash of guns. How did he know about that?

Merle a spy?

He must be using his cellphone to call the Governor

Twitter

 

[cstu]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

This. The Governor already has already been telling the people of Woodbury that Rick's group is a hostile threat. If Rick had killed the governor at what was supposed to be a peaceful negotiation, he would guarantee that that narrative would stick.

 

[packersfan]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

This. The Governor already has already been telling the people of Woodbury that Rick's group is a hostile threat. If Rick had killed the governor at what was supposed to be a peaceful negotiation, he would guarantee that that narrative would stick.

Yup. I think Rick acted rationally and intelligently.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshot, I didn't see any lack of mobility.Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

How come it never shows them going to the bathroom? Do they ever go?

Yep. They feed the zombies their feces

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

Kill the Governor and the two others that came with them and then feed the carcasses to the zombies.

 

[pollardsvision]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

This. The Governor already has already been telling the people of Woodbury that Rick's group is a hostile threat. If Rick had killed the governor at what was supposed to be a peaceful negotiation, he would guarantee that that narrative would stick.

Makes sense. Best explanation of Rick's approach.As part of that, I think the Rick's group's best hope for survival (other than running) is to win over some of the key Woodbury folk. That started playing out at the meeting. The scientist clearly decided he liked Hershel and the group by extension. The main henchman might also be at a point of not wanting to eliminate Darryl's group. The only reasonable way Rick could win a war with Woodbury is if the Gov's key people aren't sold killing them all. Rick coming in guns blazing at the meet would've destroyed that.If I was a betting man, I'd say the Gov gets killed and it's the scientist that does it.

 

[mr roboto]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

This. The Governor already has already been telling the people of Woodbury that Rick's group is a hostile threat. If Rick had killed the governor at what was supposed to be a peaceful negotiation, he would guarantee that that narrative would stick.

Makes sense. Best explanation of Rick's approach.As part of that, I think the Rick's group's best hope for survival (other than running) is to win over some of the key Woodbury folk. That started playing out at the meeting. The scientist clearly decided he liked Hershel and the group by extension. The main henchman might also be at a point of not wanting to eliminate Darryl's group. The only reasonable way Rick could win a war with Woodbury is if the Gov's key people aren't sold killing them all. Rick coming in guns blazing at the meet would've destroyed that.If I was a betting man, I'd say the Gov gets killed and it's the scientist that does it.

Thanks. I mentioned it a page back.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

Kill the Governor and the two others that came with them and then feed the carcasses to the zombies.

If they did that the season would end 3 episodes early

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

Kill the Governor and the two others that came with them and then feed the carcasses to the zombies.

If they did that the season would end 3 episodes early

I'd be entirely okay with that this season. Heck, spend the last 3 episodes showing them fortifying the prison, integrating with the Woodburyites, and then introduce some mysterious antagonist for next season in the last episode.I'm so sick of this Governor guy. Bad actor, bad writing, bad interpretation, horrible all around. Ending it three episodes early would've been a blessing.

 

[Copeman]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about.

Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?

If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.

And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

Kill the Governor and the two others that came with them and then feed the carcasses to the zombies.

If they did that the season would end 3 episodes early

I'd be entirely okay with that this season. Heck, spend the last 3 episodes showing them fortifying the prison, integrating with the Woodburyites, and then introduce some mysterious antagonist for next season in the last episode.I'm so sick of this Governor guy. Bad actor, bad writing, bad interpretation, horrible all around. Ending it three episodes early would've been a blessing.

I think he's fine, and does a good job with what he is given.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about.

Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?

If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.

And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

Kill the Governor and the two others that came with them and then feed the carcasses to the zombies.

If they did that the season would end 3 episodes early

I'd be entirely okay with that this season. Heck, spend the last 3 episodes showing them fortifying the prison, integrating with the Woodburyites, and then introduce some mysterious antagonist for next season in the last episode.I'm so sick of this Governor guy. Bad actor, bad writing, bad interpretation, horrible all around. Ending it three episodes early would've been a blessing.

I think he's fine, and does a good job with what he is given.

Yeah, he's probably fine as an actor, I don't know. I should've said "bad casting"... Just the wrong guy for the role. I'll be less than psyched if they keep him around past this season.

 

[Psychopav]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshot, I didn't see any lack of mobility.Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

How come it never shows them going to the bathroom? Do they ever go?

How come they never eat? I don't think they've eaten anything since they left the farm. Shouldn't they be dead by now?

 

[mr roboto]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshot, I didn't see any lack of mobility.Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

How come it never shows them going to the bathroom? Do they ever go?

How come they never eat? I don't think they've eaten anything since they left the farm. Shouldn't they be dead by now?

You don't get it. They ARE the Walking Dead.

 

[Psychopav]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshot, I didn't see any lack of mobility.

Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

How come it never shows them going to the bathroom? Do they ever go?

How come they never eat? I don't think they've eaten anything since they left the farm. Shouldn't they be dead by now?

You don't get it. They ARE the Walking Dead.

Woah. Mind...blown.I see dead people.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Also, what was the timeframe between last night's episode and the previous episode? Rick seemed healed from the gunshot, I didn't see any lack of mobility.Maybe Andrea went to the prison between the two episodes to set up the meeting and saw the gun haul

How come it never shows them going to the bathroom? Do they ever go?

How come they never eat? I don't think they've eaten anything since they left the farm. Shouldn't they be dead by now?

And no one every gets a cold either...this is BS!

 

[Worm]

Y'all are crazy. There is no way scientist guy kills the governor. If anything, he will have a chance/choice, and will chicken out, and the governor will kill him.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Y'all are crazy. There is no way scientist guy kills the governor. If anything, he will have a chance/choice, and will chicken out, and the governor will kill him.

I can't figure him out. Part me feels like he's doing what he's doing to keep an eye on Andrea like the Gov told him to do. I can't see him outing the Gov

 

[stbugs]

Y'all are crazy. There is no way scientist guy kills the governor. If anything, he will have a chance/choice, and will chicken out, and the governor will kill him.

I can't figure him out. Part me feels like he's doing what he's doing to keep an eye on Andrea like the Gov told him to do. I can't see him outing the Gov

He was keeping an eye on Andrea and while he sometimes wondered about the governor, he had always backed him up until he met Herschel and found out that the governor was planning to slaughter Rick's group. I think he suspected the governor wasn't the greatest guy, but unlike Martinez, Milton didn't go on the raids of the National Guard, etc. where the governor killed people in cold blood. Milton was naive and a follower, but he isn't anymore. That said, I still don't think he has the cahones to kill the governor, but I could see him help Andrea do it.

 

[lod01]

Y'all are crazy. There is no way scientist guy kills the governor. If anything, he will have a chance/choice, and will chicken out, and the governor will kill him.

I can't figure him out. Part me feels like he's doing what he's doing to keep an eye on Andrea like the Gov told him to do. I can't see him outing the Gov

He was keeping an eye on Andrea and while he sometimes wondered about the governor, he had always backed him up until he met Herschel and found out that the governor was planning to slaughter Rick's group. I think he suspected the governor wasn't the greatest guy, but unlike Martinez, Milton didn't go on the raids of the National Guard, etc. where the governor killed people in cold blood. Milton was naive and a follower, but he isn't anymore. That said, I still don't think he has the cahones to kill the governor, but I could see him help Andrea do it.

So far they have done a really good job at not doing the obvious. Milton could easily be a non factor in any possible killing of the Gov. and then meet some untimely death next season.Or he could find some technique to barbecue the walkers for food.

 

[doowain]

Anyone else wondering why in the previews for the final 3 episodes they keep showing someone burning up in flames. Governor?

 

[-fish-]

How come they never eat?

that big bag of meth that daryl got.

 

[Psychopav]

How come they never eat?

that big bag of meth that daryl got.

I'm gonna eat you this Friday. Better watch out!Fishy fishy!!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I can't read this thread because I didn't see this week's ep yet, but wasn't it kind of ####ty that they left that hitchhiker for dead?

this show has really taken a turn for the worse.

 

[Demian]

Whole season of meh so far.

Really? You are one of the few who does not like this season. I think it is the best overall

Each episode just feels more and more like filler, especially since coming back from hiatus. The first two seasons seemed much more large scale and epic. Right now it's a wild west soap opera with a few token zombie killings to remind you that it's still The Walking Dead.

 

[babydemon90]

Where does everyone keep getting fuel for their vehicles? I'm thinking the guy at the Shell station turned off the pumps when the zombies showed up.

I've been thinking this as well. No idea if this is right or not, but I'm sure I've read/heard somewhere that fuel goes bad after a few months sitting around.

I don't think so

 

[thayman]

Where does everyone keep getting fuel for their vehicles? I'm thinking the guy at the Shell station turned off the pumps when the zombies showed up.

I've been thinking this as well. No idea if this is right or not, but I'm sure I've read/heard somewhere that fuel goes bad after a few months sitting around.

I don't think so

As gasoline ages the parts of gas that make your engine go will evaporate. After a year most cars on the side of the road wouldn't start but the gas in them could run that crappy Hyundai they are driving around. Although it would probably run rougher and the fuel they are siphoning off from other cars would eventually gum up the injectors and their cars wouldn't start. A car with a carburetor would be better since it's easier to clean, also condensation in gas tanks would be an issue since some of the gas they are getting would have water in it.

 

[flapgreen]

I can't read this thread because I didn't see this week's ep yet, but wasn't it kind of ####ty that they left that hitchhiker for dead?this show has really taken a turn for the worse.

He had the flu and everyone was trying to avoid getting it, since NO ONE EVER GETS SICK.

 

[curta269]

Whole season of meh so far.

Really? You are one of the few who does not like this season. I think it is the best overall

Each episode just feels more and more like filler, especially since coming back from hiatus. The first two seasons seemed much more large scale and epic. Right now it's a wild west soap opera with a few token zombie killings to remind you that it's still The Walking Dead.

I'm sure some episodes are filler now that the seasons are longer than 6 episodes. The last two episodes are setting up for the finale of season 3, especially last weeks episode. I liked at as it wasn't as intense, and both groups got to know each other some what. I would think its harder to kill someone in war that you know, than someone you don't.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Few interesting parts to the show:

- the development/interaction between the leutenants of the two groups;

- showing the gun taped to the table just to indicate that the gov. has something up his sleeve but leaving it go at that;

- the byplay between Darryl and the gov's Lt. when the zombies come.

Am I the only one here who wants to see Herschel being chased by a zombie?

Foreshadowing to a following week when they meet back at the shack under the guise of a "deal", but both planning to attack the other.

I can see this gun being unloaded when its time to use it.

I think the purpose of showing the taped gun was to point out what a great decision it was for Rick not to hang his guns on the wall. The govenor would have never gotten his hands below the table without Rick unloading on him. If Rick had hung his guns up the govenor would have killed him.

 

[zoonation]

Rick not killing the Governor in cold blood may have been a storytelling device but it felt realistic to me. Rick's not a murderer and if he thought there was any way to make peace without more people dying that strikes me as the move he would first make. There also may have been a part of him that wanted to meet this guy face-to-face who had done so many awful things to people he cares about. Plus I think the Governor did a good job of working on Rick's psyche and making him possibly reconsider his position. I thought those scenes were extremely well done. So while I can agree things are being dragged out to get to a likely big dramatic showdown it felt entirely realistic to me and at no point did I think the characters were being contorted to fit the storytelling.

At one point in the conversation...Gov says he wants nothing but their surrender. How is that peace?At the end of the conversation...Gov says he wants Michonne (to torture and kill obviously). How is that peace without more bloodshed?If your goal is to keep the bloodshed to a minimum...go, listen to the madman speak...confirm he's a nutjob and end this nonsense right there.And to whoever said the town might have someone else in the wings...sure...they might...but no one as twisted as this jackal with a bloodlust for Michonne and ultimately Rick's group.

It's not an easy call but I believe Rick made the correct one. Sure you get rid of the madman but you've also destroyed any credibility as a peaceful neighbor. Woodbury may not have another madman but they now know they're a threat and have them outnumbered. It won't take someone like the Governor to convince the town they need to attack the prison and kill everyone.

This. The Governor already has already been telling the people of Woodbury that Rick's group is a hostile threat. If Rick had killed the governor at what was supposed to be a peaceful negotiation, he would guarantee that that narrative would stick.

Makes sense. Best explanation of Rick's approach.As part of that, I think the Rick's group's best hope for survival (other than running) is to win over some of the key Woodbury folk. That started playing out at the meeting. The scientist clearly decided he liked Hershel and the group by extension. The main henchman might also be at a point of not wanting to eliminate Darryl's group. The only reasonable way Rick could win a war with Woodbury is if the Gov's key people aren't sold killing them all. Rick coming in guns blazing at the meet would've destroyed that.If I was a betting man, I'd say the Gov gets killed and it's the scientist that does it.

Thanks. I mentioned it a page back.

I dont think he was talking to you.