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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)
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packersfan
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The show is integrating new characters every season. If the Woodbury residents all end up being red shirts that doesn't bother me a great deal. There are other new characters being worked into the mix and apparently more are coming this season.
snogger
Footballguy
He does a pretty good job in the trailer for this upcoming episode .. then again he doesn't speak a word so there is that
Buckfast 1
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I'm not saying that we need flashbacks of Carol, her husband, and Sophia sitting around the dinner table in a pre-zombie apocalypse world. But perhaps a brief flashback that involved some of the Woodbury refugees' early response to the zombie outbreak might shed some more light on the characters, such that the viewers actually know enough about the characters to care whether they live or die. I just find it disappointing that, out of that entire group of Woodbury refugees, the only characters that the writers have invested any time in developing is really Tyreese, who isn't even really a Woodbury character. At this point, it just feels like they may have missed a good opportunity to inject some fresh, interesting characters into Rick's group. I'm still hoping that some interesting characters can emerge from Woodbury. I suppose that D'Angelo Barksdale still has a chance, although so far his storyline feels somewhat one-dimensional with his apparent issues with alcohol (which at this point amount to nothing more than a guy's reasonable desire for some booze to take the edge off during a zombie apocalypse).
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Copeman
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There are still 3 new characters they are going to introduce this year. When exactly, I don't know. But the three are all from the comics and each one is interesting. Most here should recognize each actor/actress playing the parts as well, if you watch alot of tv/movies, anyways.
cstu
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The only reason Tyreese even went to Woodbury is because Rick went nuts in front of him.
cstu
Footballguy
I'm not defending the dragging out of the Governor storyline but the biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse isn't the zombies.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor I was hoping he would come back much later there was no suspense at all this soon gotta make it a surprise like Sophia. There has to be some human conflict in the show, but not too much. The reason I watch TWD is because it is about people surviving in a ZOMBIE apocolypse. There are literally tons of shows about conflicted groups of humans to choose from, like that one that the power is out or really any action show. If I want gunfights I can watch those.Homer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I wasto see the Governor in the closing scenes, although it was obvious he would enter the story again at some point. He's a badly written soap opera villain played by a terrible actor. Single worst piece of casting in the entire show. Let's hope it ends quickly.
I tend to think in a situation like this there would be more encounters like running into the guys in the bar, the people on the bridge and gangs not Duke Dastardly stalking them.
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cstu
Footballguy
I don't cheer for them but when some unknown character gets killed it's meaningless to me.
Copeman
Footballguy
As the show has alluded to quite a few times, there were never that many walkers around to be worried about it. For some reason, the walkers are all advancing on the prison, which is the main plot line right now (which many people are forgetting or overlooking), hiding under this "virus" plot.
packersfan
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The Governor's return would seem to be an appropriate time to bring back this classic.
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phatdawg
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What I meant by that comment was that had they kept Shane and killed off Rick, I think Shane would have been destined to become a Governor-like figure. I think he would have eventually been so obsessed with his own self-interest that he would have viewed those around him as expendable ... much like the Governor does. I don't think he would have faced the moral dilemmas Rick has.
phatdawg
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packersfan
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Where I thought last season failed with the Governor was there was no real payoff. They did a good job early in the season comparing and contrasting Rick and the Governor as leaders. They then had the brilliant episode where they finally met. Then ...
Nothing really.
Last season was really building and building and building toward what appeared to be an inevitable Rick-Governor showdown and it never really materialized. Contrast that with the terrific work in Season 2 with Rick and Shane where everything built toward the inevitable showdown and it was sensational.
Maybe the writers pushed the Rick-Governor showdown off until this season. But that was one of my problems with last season's finale - no real sense of payoff with the Governor.
Nothing really.
Last season was really building and building and building toward what appeared to be an inevitable Rick-Governor showdown and it never really materialized. Contrast that with the terrific work in Season 2 with Rick and Shane where everything built toward the inevitable showdown and it was sensational.
Maybe the writers pushed the Rick-Governor showdown off until this season. But that was one of my problems with last season's finale - no real sense of payoff with the Governor.
Officer Pete Malloy
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He dresses like Han Solo and talks like Holling Vincoeur from "Northern Exposure".
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Copeman
Footballguy
The show does miss Shane. Not so much the character, but the actor. Jon Bernthal played the part perfect. I think the show really misses his presence.
I'd like to see what he would have done with the part of Daryl. Norman Reedus isn't a good actor. I know I know, but "he's a bad###!!!!"
I'd like to see what he would have done with the part of Daryl. Norman Reedus isn't a good actor. I know I know, but "he's a bad###!!!!"
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Disco Stu
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phatdawg
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Hey, all I am saying is if I go to see Jaws I want to see some people getting chomped on by sharks, not a bunch of shootouts with the tagline "The most dangerous killer in the ocean is........da dum da.....Man"Agree. I'd rather see another rogue group of bandits.I'm not defending the dragging out of the Governor storyline but the biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse isn't the zombies.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor I was hoping he would come back much later there was no suspense at all this soon gotta make it a surprise like Sophia. There has to be some human conflict in the show, but not too much. The reason I watch TWD is because it is about people surviving in a ZOMBIE apocolypse. There are literally tons of shows about conflicted groups of humans to choose from, like that one that the power is out or really any action show. If I want gunfights I can watch those.Homer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I was
I tend to think in a situation like this there would be more encounters like running into the guys in the bar, the people on the bridge and gangs not Duke Dastardly stalking them.
Plus the allure of the governer was the conflict with Andrea and his assistant whose name escapes me, with them dead the whole Michon thing just seems weak.
cstu
Footballguy
The show suffers from not having an antagonistic character. Everyone is a predictable good guy, especially now that they got rid of Carol who was finally becoming interesting. I'd love it if they had Michonne step up and start talking more and taking more of a leadership role. Whether they're right or wrong, someone needs to be able to play devil's advocate to Rick's ideas.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Exactly. The show hasn't been the same since Shane died or Merle was with the main group. That constant tension isn't present, just moments here and there.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I'm with you.
Slider6
Footballguy
Yes, they did a really bad job of showing why Michonne hates the Governor so much.Hey, all I am saying is if I go to see Jaws I want to see some people getting chomped on by sharks, not a bunch of shootouts with the tagline "The most dangerous killer in the ocean is........da dum da.....Man"Agree. I'd rather see another rogue group of bandits.I'm not defending the dragging out of the Governor storyline but the biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse isn't the zombies.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor I was hoping he would come back much later there was no suspense at all this soon gotta make it a surprise like Sophia. There has to be some human conflict in the show, but not too much. The reason I watch TWD is because it is about people surviving in a ZOMBIE apocolypse. There are literally tons of shows about conflicted groups of humans to choose from, like that one that the power is out or really any action show. If I want gunfights I can watch those.Homer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I was
I tend to think in a situation like this there would be more encounters like running into the guys in the bar, the people on the bridge and gangs not Duke Dastardly stalking them.
Plus the allure of the governer was the conflict with Andrea and his assistant whose name escapes me, with them dead the whole Michon thing just seems weak.
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Maelstrom
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Exactly. Kirkman has repeated said, whether in reference to the comics or TV show, that it is a story about the PEOPLE that happens to be set in a zombie apocalypse, and how the people react and relate to each other under that kind of pressure. Zombies are not the antagonist, they are just the setting, of the story.I'm not defending the dragging out of the Governor storyline but the biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse isn't the zombies.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor I was hoping he would come back much later there was no suspense at all this soon gotta make it a surprise like Sophia. There has to be some human conflict in the show, but not too much. The reason I watch TWD is because it is about people surviving in a ZOMBIE apocolypse. There are literally tons of shows about conflicted groups of humans to choose from, like that one that the power is out or really any action show. If I want gunfights I can watch those.Homer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I was
I tend to think in a situation like this there would be more encounters like running into the guys in the bar, the people on the bridge and gangs not Duke Dastardly stalking them.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
Not like they could go with the storyline from the comics. (Not saying they couldn't have tried, but it would have been significantly watered down for TV.)
In the comics
Michonne was brutally raped by the Governor, in scenes that even in the comics were hard to continue reading. In the TV show, they had the Governor molest Maggie, but it's hard to figure out exactly what got Michonne so upset with him. It was extremely clear in the comics just why she hated him so much.
DocGonzo
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Agree with all of the above. He was never interesting and totally unnecessary.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the GovernorHomer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I was
Agree with pretty much all of this. The Governor was a lot more brutal in the comics and I thought that brutality was the thing that made him interesting. The TV version just comes off as a typically stock TV villain. They've winked at the comic book brutality, but they haven't really developed it. Part writing and part the actor, I guess, but whatever the reason I think it's taken away the characteristic that made him interesting.
Psychopav
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I used to love this show but it seems like the last couple episodes have been more about zombies and less about gardening. I think I may be done with this show.
This thread is gold, Jerry, gold!
Psychopav
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If they aren't going to give us the gardening show we all desire, then they could have at least had the Pea be a mutant of some kind and attack <_<I agree. A whole hour and they only open 1 peapod! Come on, at least give us a carrot or a potato!I used to love this show but it seems like the last couple episodes have been more about zombies and less about gardening. I think I may be done with this show.
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It's better than the show.Do we think the gov is holding Lori hostage? Would explain her recent whereabouts and involvement with the midnight rat dangling.I used to love this show but it seems like the last couple episodes have been more about zombies and less about gardening. I think I may be done with this show.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Yep. And if I am remembering correctly the title Walking Dead refers to thisr people trying to deal with the apocalypse and not the zombies themselves.Exactly. Kirkman has repeated said, whether in reference to the comics or TV show, that it is a story about the PEOPLE that happens to be set in a zombie apocalypse, and how the people react and relate to each other under that kind of pressure. Zombies are not the antagonist, they are just the setting, of the story.I'm not defending the dragging out of the Governor storyline but the biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse isn't the zombies.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor I was hoping he would come back much later there was no suspense at all this soon gotta make it a surprise like Sophia. There has to be some human conflict in the show, but not too much. The reason I watch TWD is because it is about people surviving in a ZOMBIE apocolypse. There are literally tons of shows about conflicted groups of humans to choose from, like that one that the power is out or really any action show. If I want gunfights I can watch those.Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.I was
I tend to think in a situation like this there would be more encounters like running into the guys in the bar, the people on the bridge and gangs not Duke Dastardly stalking them.
3C's
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You mouse over and see the link has the words hot babe and naked in it...I'd think that's warning enough.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
After letting her leave the Governor tried to have Michonne killed. I think that's why she hates him so much in the show. She also probably blames Andrea's death on him as well.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Agree with all of the above. He was never interesting and totally unnecessary.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the GovernorGotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.I was
Agree with pretty much all of this. The Governor was a lot more brutal in the comics and I thought that brutality was the thing that made him interesting. The TV version just comes off as a typically stock TV villain. They've winked at the comic book brutality, but they haven't really developed it. Part writing and part the actor, I guess, but whatever the reason I think it's taken away the characteristic that made him interesting.
Agreed. I mentioned my thought a couple times that I think Laurie killing him in that building would have been a great ending for him. I know they have plans, but for those of us who watched Heroes, it reminds me of the Season 1 ending in which Sylar didn't die. I know they liked the character and sometimes that drives a decision, like in Heroes, that derails the show a bit because the "revenge" takes too long and ends up being such a huge story. As you posted later, it kind of takes away from the whole last season. Heck, he could have just gone back to Woodbury and started over.
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Damn it, I mean Andrea. I think it would have been a much better story line if she got the Governor killed in that building. I thought the miraculous escape with no weapon only to track her down just before Rick saw her was not good at all. Like the posts on the previous couple pages, I am really not interested at all in the Governor anymore. The fact that he is already back really cheapens all of the stuff at the end of last season.
Pretty sure she is a pile of slop in that zombie's belly. She probably can't walk anymore. They could do a Total Recall Kuato scene where she comes out of a zombie's belly and kills him while he tries to fight off the zombie.
cstu
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