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***OFFICIAL TRADE RUMORS MASTER THREAD*** (1 Viewer)

shadyridr said:
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Price for Gagne just went up...I imagine this takes the Red Sox out of the running for Gagne. The only question is, what are the Yankees going to give up?
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Rangers asked for Horne, Yanks turned them down. Supposedly out of the running now.
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Well, with Proctor gone there is quite a hole to fill. Proctor has pitched in 52 games this year already...someone needs to pick up those innings
 
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wilked said:
Price for Gagne just went up...I imagine this takes the Red Sox out of the running for Gagne. The only question is, what are the Yankees going to give up?
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I heard Hansen for Gagne was the offerre: Dye, sounds like Boston offered him 5 starts a week which he is o.k. with (originally he was against being traded to Boston)
 
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wilked said:
shadyridr said:
wilked said:
Price for Gagne just went up...I imagine this takes the Red Sox out of the running for Gagne. The only question is, what are the Yankees going to give up?
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Rangers asked for Horne, Yanks turned them down. Supposedly out of the running now.
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Well, with Proctor gone there is quite a hole to fill. Proctor has pitched in 52 games this year already...someone needs to pick up those innings
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Joba the Hut
 
ooofffaaa said:
wilked said:
shadyridr said:
wilked said:
Price for Gagne just went up...I imagine this takes the Red Sox out of the running for Gagne. The only question is, what are the Yankees going to give up?
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Rangers asked for Horne, Yanks turned them down. Supposedly out of the running now.
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Well, with Proctor gone there is quite a hole to fill. Proctor has pitched in 52 games this year already...someone needs to pick up those innings
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Joba the Hut
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just what you want to do with your young prospect, beat the hell out him...
 
Also, if you think the Yankees are going to put that much faith in an unproven rookie, you must think more lowly of them then I do. Cashman isn't that much of an idiot...

 
Agree with wilked, WMP and Hansen for Dye is a nice deal for the Red Sox. If the White Sox will play WMP they might have done well too. That guy needs consistent ab's.

 
Funkley said:
Agree with wilked, WMP and Hansen for Dye is a nice deal for the Red Sox. If the White Sox will play WMP they might have done well too. That guy needs consistent ab's.
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Wow, I can't believe Hansen's stock has fallen that far. That and the Sox are ready to make Drew a role player already.
 
ThisGuy said:
Funkley said:
Agree with wilked, WMP and Hansen for Dye is a nice deal for the Red Sox. If the White Sox will play WMP they might have done well too. That guy needs consistent ab's.
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Wow, I can't believe Hansen's stock has fallen that far. That and the Sox are ready to make Drew a role player already.
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Ya, I hear you about Hansen. The Sox toyed with his release and he really hasn't been the same since. He still has great potential, but it has been a while since he has been lights out. As for Drew, I wouldn't say they are making him a role player....they need a 4th OF bat badly, Wily Mo is not the answer and obvioulsy Hinske is not either. Given Dye's availability he is the best OF bat they can get, and given Drew's splits he makes a ton of sense. The only issue is just giving him the PT. If that means sacrificing some Drew ABs, then so be it. Drew is still the longterm solution though. Think of Dye as a hired gun for the championship run...
 
wilked said:
ThisGuy said:
Funkley said:
Agree with wilked, WMP and Hansen for Dye is a nice deal for the Red Sox. If the White Sox will play WMP they might have done well too. That guy needs consistent ab's.
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Wow, I can't believe Hansen's stock has fallen that far. That and the Sox are ready to make Drew a role player already.
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Ya, I hear you about Hansen. The Sox toyed with his release and he really hasn't been the same since. He still has great potential, but it has been a while since he has been lights out. As for Drew, I wouldn't say they are making him a role player....they need a 4th OF bat badly, Wily Mo is not the answer and obvioulsy Hinske is not either. Given Dye's availability he is the best OF bat they can get, and given Drew's splits he makes a ton of sense. The only issue is just giving him the PT. If that means sacrificing some Drew ABs, then so be it. Drew is still the longterm solution though. Think of Dye as a hired gun for the championship run...
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How Yankee of you. :goodposting:
 
hey, what else is a Rental but a hired gun? There is no doubt that Dye makes the Red Sox a better team, and if it costs them WMP and Hansen, so be it.

 
wilked said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Dye switching Sox?
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looks that way. What I am hearing is that Wily Mo + Hansen will get the deal done. IMO the Pale Hose have to trade him...
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Seems like Dye is what is holding this up. He is in a contract year so of course he wants to play and since he can veto a trade to Boston, if they don't promise him sufficient playing time, why would he go. White Sox are not holding all the cards here.Platooning with Drew is not going to get him that many ABs.
 
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Hansen's inability to throw strikes 3-4 years ago is the kind of nuisance you put up with regarding top level prospects. But his inability to ever progress has resulted in him being to unreliable to even be a set up guy. Classic change of scenery deal.

 
I like that trade for the Dodgers. Hard to find a guy who can give you that many reliable innings out of the pen.

Dye for Hansen/Pena seems like a wash to me. I'd do it if I was CHW just on Hansen's potential alone, see if a change will help him. No benefit to keeping Dye.

 
Capella said:
I like that trade for the Dodgers. Hard to find a guy who can give you that many reliable innings out of the pen.

Dye for Hansen/Pena seems like a wash to me. I'd do it if I was CHW just on Hansen's potential alone, see if a change will help him. No benefit to keeping Dye.
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Playing at the Ravine may keep some of his flyballs in play too. Decent AL pitcher to NL usually = gold.
 
wilked said:
hey, what else is a Rental but a hired gun? There is no doubt that Dye makes the Red Sox a better team, and if it costs them WMP and Hansen, so be it.
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the offer was Pena and MDC unless it changed in the last few hoursre: Gagne

"Executives involved in the process" are telling Olney that the Sox are the frontrunners for Gagne.

The Yankees do not expect to be able to replace Proctor with Eric Gagne, however, with the Rangers preferring offers from the Boston Red Sox or Milwaukee Brewers.
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Oops...ESPN live right now with a special edition of BBTN.

Gammons says its WMP and Hanson being dicussed for Dye, and Sox battling Brewers for Gagne.

Olney says Mets hot after Cordero from Nationals.

 
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Wolf said:
wilked said:
hey, what else is a Rental but a hired gun? There is no doubt that Dye makes the Red Sox a better team, and if it costs them WMP and Hansen, so be it.
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the offer was Pena and MDC unless it changed in the last few hoursre: Gagne"Executives involved in the process" are telling Olney that the Sox are the frontrunners for Gagne.
The Yankees do not expect to be able to replace Proctor with Eric Gagne, however, with the Rangers preferring offers from the Boston Red Sox or Milwaukee Brewers.
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Just heard on WEEI the latest offer for Gagne is Murphy and Gabbard.
 
Capella said:
I like that trade for the Dodgers. Hard to find a guy who can give you that many reliable innings out of the pen.

Dye for Hansen/Pena seems like a wash to me. I'd do it if I was CHW just on Hansen's potential alone, see if a change will help him. No benefit to keeping Dye.
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He has a 1.50 WHIP this year
 
wilked said:
Also, if you think the Yankees are going to put that much faith in an unproven rookie, you must think more lowly of them then I do. Cashman isn't that much of an idiot...
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The Yankees basically traded a 30 year old average reliever for a 26 year old versatile player with power and an 850 OPS. Seems like a good deal to me but I agree they have to replace Proctor's innings. They feel they can replace his 6th or 7th innings with a combo of Karstens, Britton, or Chamberlain as they think all are better pitchers than Proctor and I cant say I disagree.
 
Tigers apparently got Jack Wilson and a reliever from the Pirates. Not sure what for yet but I would guess it would be a pitching prospect.

 
Nigel said:
Wolf said:
wilked said:
hey, what else is a Rental but a hired gun? There is no doubt that Dye makes the Red Sox a better team, and if it costs them WMP and Hansen, so be it.
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the offer was Pena and MDC unless it changed in the last few hoursre: Gagne"Executives involved in the process" are telling Olney that the Sox are the frontrunners for Gagne.
The Yankees do not expect to be able to replace Proctor with Eric Gagne, however, with the Rangers preferring offers from the Boston Red Sox or Milwaukee Brewers.
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Just heard on WEEI the latest offer for Gagne is Murphy and Gabbard.
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Can the Rangers really be that stupid? You laughed at me for Clippard yet this is just as bad if not worse.
 
looks like they originally wanted MDC, interesting...

The Red Sox were waiting Tuesday morning to hear back from the White Sox on their latest offer for Dye. According to two baseball men who had been in contact with the two clubs, the Red Sox's latest offer was reliever Craig Hansen and outfielder Wily Mo Pena in exchange for Dye and a minor leaguer. The White Sox are believed to prefer Manny Delcarmen to Hansen, but they don't appear to have a better offer from any other club.
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Jefferson the Caregiver said:
Nigel said:
wilked said:
So Gagne and Dye for Wily Mo, Gabbard, Hansen, and Murphy? Color me ecstatic
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sounds too good to be true, so it probably isn't.
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Yeah, because just like Dye, Gagne can reject the deal.Gagne may not like being behind Papelbon and possibly even Okajima. He also will not meet his incentives this way.
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Depends on matchups, but I think Gagne would be the set up guy with Okie pitching the 7th. I assume Gagne would also be the closer when Paps gets a day off.I think Gagne will accept it as long as they agree to pay him the "games finished" bonus he has built into his contract - something like 1.5mil if he maxes it out.
 
WEEI reporting that they believe that Dye to Boston is done...

unconfirmed as of right now

 
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Olney says ALL executives involved says the Sox are going to complete the deal for Gagne. Rosenthal also saying it is extremely close to being done. With Murphy going to the Pale Hose, not sure who the Sox would ship to Texas...

 
Doesnt Boston already have the best record in the league? Just sick. Great job by Epstein so far. But Im glad the Yankees didnt overreact by trading one of their big 3 pitching prospects although I mightve budged on Horne.

 
Finless said:
Jefferson the Caregiver said:
Nigel said:
wilked said:
So Gagne and Dye for Wily Mo, Gabbard, Hansen, and Murphy? Color me ecstatic
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sounds too good to be true, so it probably isn't.
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Yeah, because just like Dye, Gagne can reject the deal.Gagne may not like being behind Papelbon and possibly even Okajima. He also will not meet his incentives this way.
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This whole thing makes no sense to me either. Gagne isn't going to come in and set-up and we don't need him to come in and set-up. Most likely we'll use him in a mop-up role to keep the bull pen ERA down.
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You can't have too many shut down arms in the playoffs. Having Okajima, Gagne and Paps in the pen to shorten games to 6 innings is invaluable. It is also huge if God forbid Paps goes down, as he did at the end of last year.
 
On Gagne, Rosenthal says that the Rangers would receive right-hander Kason Gabbard and an additional player or players in the deal, sources say.

 
wilked said:
On Gagne, Rosenthal says that the Rangers would receive right-hander Kason Gabbard and an additional player or players in the deal, sources say.
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According to the Yankee board, Texas asked for Clippard and Marquez and were turned down by Cashman. Not sure how true that is but he had to do that deal if true.
 
shadyridr said:
wilked said:
Also, if you think the Yankees are going to put that much faith in an unproven rookie, you must think more lowly of them then I do. Cashman isn't that much of an idiot...
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The Yankees basically traded a 30 year old average reliever for a 26 year old versatile player with power and an 850 OPS. Seems like a good deal to me but I agree they have to replace Proctor's innings. They feel they can replace his 6th or 7th innings with a combo of Karstens, Britton, or Chamberlain as they think all are better pitchers than Proctor and I cant say I disagree.
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Dodgers bullpen has been getting hammered since the break. They have plenty of position prospects they can bring up, but the young pitchers have struggled. Do they bring up Chin-Lung Hu to back up SS or LaRoche to back up 3B now?
 
Dye immediately becomes much better then what we had on the bench previously. If you guys can't see that, I am not sure what to tell you

 
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