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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Commanders Thread (2 Viewers)
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fatness
Footballguy
There's a good long article in the Athletic about Ron Rivera:
https://theathletic.com/5185070/202...vera-fired/?access_token=7916765&redirected=1
Here it is archived if you don't have access to the Athletic:
https://archive.ph/7mfIc
https://theathletic.com/5185070/202...vera-fired/?access_token=7916765&redirected=1
Here it is archived if you don't have access to the Athletic:
https://archive.ph/7mfIc
Fat Nick
Footballguy
I saw that stat during the game this weekend. Good for him. I always felt like he was a stand-up guy who just played hard. I think he had some degree of loyalty to us for drafting him after his health issues caused him to slide. While I think we got fair compensation for him, I also wonder why they felt the need to trade both him and Young. My guess is it comes down to draft flexibility and maybe questions around being able to re-sign him, but it also made a hole that we then need to fill in the off-season...presumably with one of the picks we have.
dgreen
Footballguy
How about a new thread after we win a Super Bowl...next February!!!!
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Josh isn't playing around. I love how wide and thorough the net has been so far. Much different than Dan getting a hard on for one player or coach, whoever he thinks would make the biggest splash, and jump without doing due diligence and exploring all the available options...
dgreen
Footballguy
Or when Dan was unable to even get people interested in interviewing.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Great point. We have been treated/viewed like a franchise who's headquarters was built on a burial ground. What a difference getting the son of Satan out and a respectable owner in with a great track record. Also helps to have the draft capitol and cap space we have right now.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Harris is a dream owner. He won't be perfect, but he's done this before. His group has the liquid assets necessary to pay well, fix stadiums, improve weight lifting rooms, etc. And experience running a sports team. That doesn't add up to a Super Bowl without a lot of things falling into place (see his 76ers which haven't won a title). He will however do things as professionally as possible. Including hiring coaches, etc.
Dan was out of money (and a really, really bad person). Much like a normal person that has too much of their net worth in their house, Dan had too much in the value of the team. He was poor from a liquidity perspective. The only way for him to get to get liquid was by selling the team (or by stealing from the NFL through financial shenanigans).
It's nice having an owner that isn't a bad person nor cash poor.
Dan was out of money (and a really, really bad person). Much like a normal person that has too much of their net worth in their house, Dan had too much in the value of the team. He was poor from a liquidity perspective. The only way for him to get to get liquid was by selling the team (or by stealing from the NFL through financial shenanigans).
It's nice having an owner that isn't a bad person nor cash poor.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
I’m to the point I’ve convinced myself we are landing both Peters and Johnson and will be really disappointed if either fail to happen. Add in Drake Maye and hooboy…that’s how you launch a rebuild.
Interesting combo of names, btw lol
Interesting combo of names, btw lol
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
FWIW, I think Cunningham has a good shot at this job. I've thought he was the favorite for a while, though no media outlets I've seen have had him in the top 3 candidates.. The Ozzie Newsome association being the biggest plus. With Roseman too.
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
PFT and some national media people are talking "Belichik to Washington." Meanwhile all the local beat reporters are reporting that there's no interest in him from the front office.
I think maybe this is a big change, and now local team ownership is talking once again to local media.
I think maybe this is a big change, and now local team ownership is talking once again to local media.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
So I've seen this a few times over the past few months - really says a lot for Mike Shanahan as a coach of coaches. Also says a lot about how bad we were at that time to not be able to identify the potential in any of them and instead landing that schlub Jay Gruden to be our fearless leader for 6 years.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
So what do we know about this guy?Its official, The Commanders have hired a new general manager: The San Francisco 49ers assistant GM Adam Peters.
Glad they got it done quickly. Now I hope they can land one of the top HC candidates. I'm hoping for Ben Johnson, but I admit I don't really know which of these guys will make a good HC
ffmail4me
Footballguy
By all accounts, he was the best GM candidate in the entire league. Many quotes saying this was a grand slam hire for Washington. He's been a success everywhere he's been, won Super Bowls with the Patriots and Broncos and was a huge part of building the Niners current stacked roster. HUGE get for Washington, just read the 49ers forums, they are really pissed they didn't promote him to head GM.So what do we know about this guy?Its official, The Commanders have hired a new general manager: The San Francisco 49ers assistant GM Adam Peters.
Glad they got it done quickly. Now I hope they can land one of the top HC candidates. I'm hoping for Ben Johnson, but I admit I don't really know which of these guys will make a good HC
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Da Franchise
Footballguy
Absolutely amazing! I cannot believe how everything has fallen in place over the last 12 months. It’s like hitting the powerball. We went from a truly garbage franchise that had to beg people to work here to the most desirable spot in the league in record time.
A few months from now we will be talking about Peters/Johnson/Maye and the exciting group of draft picks and free agents we snagged to build the roster. We will probably be considered the hottest up and comer next year and are going to get tons of press. There’s no reason this can’t be a playoff team next year- it’s not that hard to get to 9 wins and that usually does it.
I’m calling it now.
2024- early round playoff exit.
2025- deep playoff contender
2026- Super Bowl window is wide open
A few months from now we will be talking about Peters/Johnson/Maye and the exciting group of draft picks and free agents we snagged to build the roster. We will probably be considered the hottest up and comer next year and are going to get tons of press. There’s no reason this can’t be a playoff team next year- it’s not that hard to get to 9 wins and that usually does it.
I’m calling it now.
2024- early round playoff exit.
2025- deep playoff contender
2026- Super Bowl window is wide open
fatness
Footballguy
So what do we know about this guy?Its official, The Commanders have hired a new general manager: The San Francisco 49ers assistant GM Adam Peters.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...ve-for-the-new-ownership-source-says/3514767/
"He spent seven years with the Niners, first as VP of player personnel and then the past three as assistant GM working under John Lynch.
A Super Bowl champion with Denver from his eight years with the Broncos that followed a stint in New England, Peters was one of two finalists for the job along with Chicago AGM Ian Cunningham."
Look at the 49'ers roster. It's one of the best in the league. A lot of that is due to Peters.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I’ll feel out of the darkness if we ever make the playoffs.
fatness
Footballguy
Nicki Jhabvala
@NickiJhabvala
Adam Peters’s truly worked his way up. His career path, from player to executive:
JUCO tight end
Walk-on DE at UCLA
Graduate assistant in fball ops at UCLA
Scouting assistant in NE
Pro scout in NE
Area scout in NE
Regional scout in DEN
National scout in DEN
Asst. dir. of college scouting in DEN
Director of college scouting in DEN
VP of player personnel in SF
Asst. GM in SF
GM in WAS
@NickiJhabvala
Adam Peters’s truly worked his way up. His career path, from player to executive:
JUCO tight end
Walk-on DE at UCLA
Graduate assistant in fball ops at UCLA
Scouting assistant in NE
Pro scout in NE
Area scout in NE
Regional scout in DEN
National scout in DEN
Asst. dir. of college scouting in DEN
Director of college scouting in DEN
VP of player personnel in SF
Asst. GM in SF
GM in WAS
ffmail4me
Footballguy
That's what I've been hoping all along. Trade back, get a top 3 OL player, and address the many needs we have with all these draft picks.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I'm soured on Howell. The reason he looked worse over the year is more than just the OL. It's that the opponents learn a QB's tendencies after watching game film. They figured out that they could disguise the pre-snap read and Howell could not adjust. There were guys open as has been shown on some film. Can he learn it? Maybe. Our position coaches super sucked but you'd think Bienemy could have gotten more from Howell by year end. He couldn't. And history shows that QBs with slow progression reads don't ever get out of that.
That doesn't mean we don't trade down if the right offer is there. They can get a solid QB in round 2, and let them compete with Howell. It;s a deep QB draft. Problem with that is we may never draft this high again. If Maye Williams or Daniels are the real deal you really have to take them and fill holes with $90M in cap space.
That's why they hired a real GM with talent evaluation background. I feel confident he will do the right thing regarding Howell, which is 1000x more than any of us know. Its pretty telling SF passed over Howell and they took Purdy even later in the same draft. To me it means they didn't think Howell was worthy of drafting in round 1-4. It's also telling that prior to that they loved Trey Lance and wasted picks to get him. So even the best make mistakes. There is a lot that goes in to a QBs success. or failure. You can actually mess up at QB and have a good enough other 21 players it can get hidden. SF also has a stud LT, which helps. I'd be fine with a LT at like 8th pick and getting an extra pick this year and next.
I think his first issue is fixing this defense. It's bad. It's one of the lowest paid in the NFL, which often means least talented. The CBs are slow. There are no LBs. There is no edge rush. It's hard to win football games when the opponent is dragging the D up and down the field 10 times a game. They need playmakers. They won't use a 1st on the problem, but they gotta find some playmakers later in the draft. And this GM has proven he can find those.
That doesn't mean we don't trade down if the right offer is there. They can get a solid QB in round 2, and let them compete with Howell. It;s a deep QB draft. Problem with that is we may never draft this high again. If Maye Williams or Daniels are the real deal you really have to take them and fill holes with $90M in cap space.
That's why they hired a real GM with talent evaluation background. I feel confident he will do the right thing regarding Howell, which is 1000x more than any of us know. Its pretty telling SF passed over Howell and they took Purdy even later in the same draft. To me it means they didn't think Howell was worthy of drafting in round 1-4. It's also telling that prior to that they loved Trey Lance and wasted picks to get him. So even the best make mistakes. There is a lot that goes in to a QBs success. or failure. You can actually mess up at QB and have a good enough other 21 players it can get hidden. SF also has a stud LT, which helps. I'd be fine with a LT at like 8th pick and getting an extra pick this year and next.
I think his first issue is fixing this defense. It's bad. It's one of the lowest paid in the NFL, which often means least talented. The CBs are slow. There are no LBs. There is no edge rush. It's hard to win football games when the opponent is dragging the D up and down the field 10 times a game. They need playmakers. They won't use a 1st on the problem, but they gotta find some playmakers later in the draft. And this GM has proven he can find those.
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fatness
Footballguy
It's official now. Adam Peters is GM of the Washington Commanders.
"Throughout my career in the NFL, I’ve learned that successful organizations begin with a strong ownership group willing to commit the resources needed to foster a culture of winning. We have that here in Washington and it’s my responsibility and privilege to carry out the mission of delivering a team that will ultimately compete for Super Bowls. I know how much the Commanders mean to our fans, our owners, the legends who paved the way for this franchise, and the NFL. The work starts now.”
Peters replaces Martin Mayhew as General Manager."
"Throughout my career in the NFL, I’ve learned that successful organizations begin with a strong ownership group willing to commit the resources needed to foster a culture of winning. We have that here in Washington and it’s my responsibility and privilege to carry out the mission of delivering a team that will ultimately compete for Super Bowls. I know how much the Commanders mean to our fans, our owners, the legends who paved the way for this franchise, and the NFL. The work starts now.”
Peters replaces Martin Mayhew as General Manager."
fatness
Footballguy
Press conference tomorrow at 2 pm in Ashburn with Adam Peters.
@BenStandig
6:03 PM · Jan 15, 2024
JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
In about seven months, the Josh Harris ownership group has turned Washington from NFL pariah to NFL destination. That’s remarkable.
@BenStandig
6:03 PM · Jan 15, 2024
JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
In about seven months, the Josh Harris ownership group has turned Washington from NFL pariah to NFL destination. That’s remarkable.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Honestly, and not just a homer take, but the way Dallas and the Eagles have imploded, I think Washington might be in the best position to take control of this division in the next few years. Obviously, we need to get the right head coach (I'm very confident we will) and then hit some home runs in this draft (also confident we will with Peters running the show) I'm excited for the future!
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Two key take aways from the Adam Peters press conference...
- "what I can tell you is that you're going to see great competitors, you're going to see a physical team" .... in other words, the current team isn't physical
- "We are going to build through the draft here and supplement through free agency." ... the draft really matters to this guy unlike the last guy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I'm still waiting for the coach/GM who comes out in his initial press conference and says, "We're going to build a finesse team, full of white-collar guys who eat their sushi lunches out of a Bento box."
fatness
Footballguy
Rams defensive coordinator Raheem Morris has a busy schedule this week as he interviews for three head coaching jobs. He will interview with the Panthers on Wednesday, the Commanders on Thursday and the Seahawks on Friday, according to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN. All three interviews are virtual.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Bobby Slowik interviews on Sunday. Big fan of this guy mostly because he reminds me of a less casual Mike McDaniel. Young. Success with QBs. Not a re-tread. Aggressive scheme. Worked for 49ers from 2017-2022 so has the GM connection. Johnson is probably a better hire, but I'm very much OK with this guy too.
fatness
Footballguy
Regardless of whether the Lions win or lose on Sunday, Washington will get their second interview with Ben Johnson within the next 2 weeks. I'm pretty sure he is their first choice for HV.
Dan Quinn was wrongly reported to be coming for his third interview. He rescheduled his second interview and that's what is coming up.
Dan Quinn was wrongly reported to be coming for his third interview. He rescheduled his second interview and that's what is coming up.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
It must be a done deal. Contract terms agreed and only waiting until DET season is over. Otherwise they would have hired Quinn, Morris or Slowik already.
nittanylion
Footballguy
With both the Ravens and the Lions being eliminated yesterday, today could be quite a newsworthy day here, in the land of Burgundy and Gold!
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Dan Sndyer gone? check
Hired great new GM? check
Getting ready to hire one of the most coveted coaches in the league? check
Plenty of draft capitol and salary cap room to improve roster? check
There are LOTS of reasons for optimism and excitement for us lifelong Washington fans. I do wish we could rebrand as this Commanders name and mascot is so dumb, but outside of that, everything most of us have wished for is coming to fruition. Oh, and Dallas and the Eagles chocking down the stretch was pretty sweet too.
Hired great new GM? check
Getting ready to hire one of the most coveted coaches in the league? check
Plenty of draft capitol and salary cap room to improve roster? check
There are LOTS of reasons for optimism and excitement for us lifelong Washington fans. I do wish we could rebrand as this Commanders name and mascot is so dumb, but outside of that, everything most of us have wished for is coming to fruition. Oh, and Dallas and the Eagles chocking down the stretch was pretty sweet too.
fatness
Footballguy
Ben Standig
@BenStandig
Busy 48 hours ahead for the Commanders. The in person interview schedule:
Today [Monday] - Anthony Weaver, Mike Macdonald
Tue - Dan Quinn; Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson in DET
(Previous - Slowik, Bieniemy)
I think we'll have a HC this week.
@BenStandig
Busy 48 hours ahead for the Commanders. The in person interview schedule:
Today [Monday] - Anthony Weaver, Mike Macdonald
Tue - Dan Quinn; Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson in DET
(Previous - Slowik, Bieniemy)
I think we'll have a HC this week.
fatness
Footballguy
Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
#Lions OC Ben Johnson informed the #Seahawks and #Commanders that he’s staying in Detroit, per sources. Johnson is still only 37 and will be a hot head coaching candidate again next year. But first, he wants to take another shot at bringing a Lombardi Trophy to Detroit.
@TomPelissero
#Lions OC Ben Johnson informed the #Seahawks and #Commanders that he’s staying in Detroit, per sources. Johnson is still only 37 and will be a hot head coaching candidate again next year. But first, he wants to take another shot at bringing a Lombardi Trophy to Detroit.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
As someone who has spent my whole life as a football bigamist rooting for both Detroit and Washington, I'm honestly not sure how to process this news.
Obviously the Detroit side of me is happy. As for the Commanders, will be interesting to see who they go after. Most of the remaining top candidates seem to be defensive guys (McDonald, Quinn, Glenn, hell even Vrabel and Belichick), which would mean their choice of OC would be almost as important, especially since job #1 will be to develop the No. 2 pick into a franchise QB
Obviously the Detroit side of me is happy. As for the Commanders, will be interesting to see who they go after. Most of the remaining top candidates seem to be defensive guys (McDonald, Quinn, Glenn, hell even Vrabel and Belichick), which would mean their choice of OC would be almost as important, especially since job #1 will be to develop the No. 2 pick into a franchise QB
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Most would agree that Johnson is one of the better OCs in the league. We have no idea how good of a HC he will be. It's still possible that Washington gets the better HC out of all this.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Good point. You're talking to a guy who wanted the Lions to hire Whisenhunt over Caldwell and Bienemy over Campbell, and was also excited about the Jay Gruden hire for DC. I know nothing.
