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I think Kubiack already got picked up earlier today by the Saints.
I’m not very excited. What I remember was him being very unimaginative. For example, running DHop out of the same formation all the time instead of scheming to get him open. Also, his teams would typically start hot and then turtle, possibly because teams would figure him out?So Kingsbury...should we be cheering for him? I can't really remember how his offense was perceived in Arizona.
This report about Johnson's asking price was originally circulated by Josina Anderson. After which Johnson's agent is put on the defensive & depicts the report as rumor & irresponsible reporting. But Anderson then gets specific and cites sources familiar with the "preliminary talks" regarding the Carolina opening & owner David Tepper. Now, relevant here is that this story came out this past December, just before Christmas. The bad interview with Washington was just recently. These guys on the podcast, is it revealed how they're making this link? Perhaps if they said Washington, they meant Carolina?I was listening to The Athletic's Football GM Podcast with Randy Mueller and Mike Sando today, and they were kind of crapping on Washington. Their point was that after a quarter century of Snyder where people were constantly leaking to advance their own agendas, it seemed like they had righted the ship with the quick and decisive move to sign Peters, one of the top GM candidates. But suddenly with the whole Ben Johnson mess they were right back to leaking stuff about him asking for $15M or whatever. Not saying they're necessarily right about all that, but it does give one pause. ...
Your last point can apply to Luke Getsy also.I’m not very excited. What I remember was him being very unimaginative. For example, running DHop out of the same formation all the time instead of scheming to get him open. Also, his teams would typically start hot and then turtle, possibly because teams would figure him out?So Kingsbury...should we be cheering for him? I can't really remember how his offense was perceived in Arizona.
The Raiders going from hiring KK to not hiring him to hiring Getsy is hilarious.Your last point can apply to Luke Getsy also.I’m not very excited. What I remember was him being very unimaginative. For example, running DHop out of the same formation all the time instead of scheming to get him open. Also, his teams would typically start hot and then turtle, possibly because teams would figure him out?So Kingsbury...should we be cheering for him? I can't really remember how his offense was perceived in Arizona.
Yeah, I wasn't understanding how they were connecting the $15m to Washington after Johnson pulled his name out because I thought that number had been out there for a while.This report about Johnson's asking price was originally circulated by Josina Anderson. After which Johnson's agent is put on the defensive & depicts the report as rumor & irresponsible reporting. But Anderson then gets specific and cites sources familiar with the "preliminary talks" regarding the Carolina opening & owner David Tepper. Now, relevant here is that this story came out this past December, just before Christmas. The bad interview with Washington was just recently. These guys on the podcast, is it revealed how they're making this link? Perhaps if they said Washington, they meant Carolina?I was listening to The Athletic's Football GM Podcast with Randy Mueller and Mike Sando today, and they were kind of crapping on Washington. Their point was that after a quarter century of Snyder where people were constantly leaking to advance their own agendas, it seemed like they had righted the ship with the quick and decisive move to sign Peters, one of the top GM candidates. But suddenly with the whole Ben Johnson mess they were right back to leaking stuff about him asking for $15M or whatever. Not saying they're necessarily right about all that, but it does give one pause. ...
Maybe I misstated what they said on the podcast? Main point was that Washington was clearly leaking stuff about Johnson, whatever the details.Yeah, I wasn't understanding how they were connecting the $15m to Washington after Johnson pulled his name out because I thought that number had been out there for a while.This report about Johnson's asking price was originally circulated by Josina Anderson. After which Johnson's agent is put on the defensive & depicts the report as rumor & irresponsible reporting. But Anderson then gets specific and cites sources familiar with the "preliminary talks" regarding the Carolina opening & owner David Tepper. Now, relevant here is that this story came out this past December, just before Christmas. The bad interview with Washington was just recently. These guys on the podcast, is it revealed how they're making this link? Perhaps if they said Washington, they meant Carolina?I was listening to The Athletic's Football GM Podcast with Randy Mueller and Mike Sando today, and they were kind of crapping on Washington. Their point was that after a quarter century of Snyder where people were constantly leaking to advance their own agendas, it seemed like they had righted the ship with the quick and decisive move to sign Peters, one of the top GM candidates. But suddenly with the whole Ben Johnson mess they were right back to leaking stuff about him asking for $15M or whatever. Not saying they're necessarily right about all that, but it does give one pause. ...
I work with his brothers ex-wife.Your last point can apply to Luke Getsy also.I’m not very excited. What I remember was him being very unimaginative. For example, running DHop out of the same formation all the time instead of scheming to get him open. Also, his teams would typically start hot and then turtle, possibly because teams would figure him out?So Kingsbury...should we be cheering for him? I can't really remember how his offense was perceived in Arizona.
He’s definitely a great players coach.So pumped hearing Quinn's press conference. I'll run through my own living room wall during a game for this guy.
I don't care about Johnson per se, but I really hope this was all a misunderstanding and we don't have people continuing the Snyder-era tradition of trying to advance their own agendas through the media. It's dumb and destructive when we see it in politics, but it's a million times dumber in sports, when "narratives" are meaningless and the only thing that actually matters is your win-loss recordAt this point I don't care about Johnson or speculating on anything. We should all get behind the new staff, and whether they were the sexiest biggest potential splash hires or not, I am very confident they wlll be better than the mess we had with burned out Ron and Del Rio and EB. Like someone said earlier, we can only go up from here. This draft and FA period is going to be huge for the franchise. We have to get things right. I do have a lot of confidence in our GM, so I'm feeling pretty positive overall. I just hope we don't give up picks to move up to 1.1. I'd rather sit or move back that move up.
This is my overall hope with Quinn. He evolved a lot when he took the Dallas job (obviously, it helped to have players like Diggs and Parsons). Too many coaches get stuck in their ways; I hope he'll continue to improve. And I hope some of that rubs off on Kingsbury, tooHe’s definitely a great players coach.So pumped hearing Quinn's press conference. I'll run through my own living room wall during a game for this guy.
I don’t think he’s that great when it comes to scheming for the better teams (defensively)
He tends to divulge way too much information/talks way too much, and sometimes will get into the weeds regarding scheme.
Hopefully he’s learned a lot from the mistakes he’s made.
As mentioned, Quinn ran that Seahawks Defense that went to the SB, was the HC for Atlanta's run & has done very well in Dallas. We don't know if Quinn agreed to bring in Kingsbury or, he sold them given the options at QB. Who would know Caleb Williams better than his head coach? But besides that, according to John Kiem there are strong ties between Kingsbury & Phil Longo, who coached both Drake Maye & Sam Howell at UNC. Both of course are proponents of the Air-Raid offense. Hiring Kingsbury makes sense if you're looking at Williams, Maye or if they're considering Howell. Likely what they're going to determine in the next few months.It's been four days and I'm still getting unsolicited Dan Quinn endorsements from people around the NFL. Say what you want about the Quinn hire but few guys have a higher approval rating in the game. I'm taken aback as to how beloved he is among NFL players and coaches
Kingsbury wasn't the HC (or even the OC) for USC last year. I believe his title was "offensive analyst". And Williams, along the with the entire USC offense, regressed.Who would know Caleb Williams better than his head coach?
Appreciate the correction, an assumption on my part based on Kiem's tweet. Still, I think the connection between these three QBs & Kingsbury have everything to do with him being hired. I've read that Williams grew up in the D.C. area & a big fan. The stars, the multiple SB stars are aligning people! ha-ha. Seriously, this could work. If the Bears, Commanders & Broncos perhaps can work something out, it may not cost Washington a ton to move up one spot, with Chicago gaining more by moving back a 2nd time.Kingsbury wasn't the HC (or even the OC) for USC last year. I believe his title was "offensive analyst". And Williams, along the with the entire USC offense, regressed. That doesn't automatically make KK a bad hire, especially since I don't know how big of a role he played. But it certainly isn't a point in his favor. In any event, I'd be shocked if Williams doesn't go No. 1, to the Bears or someone else
At this point I don't care about Johnson or speculating on anything. We should all get behind the new staff, and whether they were the sexiest biggest potential splash hires or not, I am very confident they wlll be better than the mess we had with burned out Ron and Del Rio and EB. Like someone said earlier, we can only go up from here. This draft and FA period is going to be huge for the franchise. We have to get things right. I do have a lot of confidence in our GM, so I'm feeling pretty positive overall. I just hope we don't give up picks to move up to 1.1. I'd rather sit or move back that move up.
Funny story (at least to me): I was 13 when Williams won his Super Bowl. I wouldn't say I disliked him, but I wasn't a huge fan, for reasons having nothing to do with race. Since before Williams even joined the team, I absolutely loved Jay Schroeder. I honestly can't remember why, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it now, but from the moment he came in to replace Theismann in the broken-leg game vs the Giants, I liked him....and before anyone jumps to conclusions, I have no issues with Jacoby Brissett. I liked Jason Campbell just fine, and Donovan McNabb himself, as well, despite his being washed as a QB by the time he arrived here. Tony Banks didn't rub me the wrong way, and I absolutely loved Doug Williams. Didn't care much for headcase Jeff George's personality, but at least he was an establiished NFL starting QB, with a body of work and possibly the most powerful cannon to ever play pro football.
Thank you very much.
I will continue to hope that Caleb Williams does nothing to diminish his stock between now and Draft Day, so that the Bears, or some other Team they partner with in trade, selects him, and the WFT does not.
I didn't enjoy when Robert Griffin the 3rd transitioned into RG3.
I enjoyed Duane Haskins (RIP) when he was playing here in my backyard (Bullis Prep), and at Ohio St., but not what he transitioned into after being drafted.
I don't care how talented Caleb Williams is, if he comes with a sideshow that could develop into a freakshow.
Just MHO, based on what I've read and observed, I firmly believe that CW has the kind of issues beyond his football skills that I don't personally care for. I want this franchise, in the state it's currently in, to have nothing to do with any players I feel are lacking positive intangibles. Or appear, to me, to be narcissistic, to lack maturity and mental fortitude. Glad to let another Team, in a more advanced stage of development, invest in the means that I feel it will take to mine that potential pot of gold.
...and before anyone jumps to conclusions, I have no issues with Jacoby Brissett. I liked Jason Campbell just fine, and Donovan McNabb himself, as well, despite his being washed as a QB by the time he arrived here. Tony Banks didn't rub me the wrong way, and I absolutely loved Doug Williams. Didn't care much for headcase Jeff George's personality, but at least he was an establiished NFL starting QB, with a body of work and possibly the most powerful cannon to ever play pro football.
Thank you very much.
Tom's brother?Larry Izzo hired as special teams coordinator. I know nothing about him.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/washington-commanders
Yeah, I mean, I have been cool with all the coach hires so far but this Bobby Johnson move was a real head scratcher. I know he had experience coaching Bills OL before NYG and that's where he and Dabol worked together. I suppose the lines were a bit better there but even what I've read of his time there, he wasn't a real needle mover. I don't think he was our first choice to coach the line either. I seem to remember that Quinn was trying to hire Dallas TE coach as the offensive line coach but Jerry blocked him.
The identity of the next quarterback is an open question and Kingsbury indicated that it will impact his overall offensive philosophy. While his background includes working with the pass-heavy Air Raid scheme, Kingsbury noted his Arizona teams didn’t rank at the top of the league in pass percentage and said any offensive plans will be designed around the personnel on hand.
“First and foremost, being able to adapt to your personnel, do what you do best and don’t ask them to do things they can’t do. . . . We want to be balanced, we want to be able to run the football and play-action pass and really do whatever it takes to win,” Kingsbury said. “The Air Raid deal — I’m honored to be a pair of that because it was Mike Leach and I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I wouldn’t categorize anything we do under that name.”
Kingsbury also said that any offense has to avoid stagnation by continually evolving to make sure they can stay ahead of defenses. The ultimate choice at quarterback will play a big role in that effort in Washington in 2024 and beyond.
This tact veers wildly from the previous setup where most coaches worked together or had formidable links.
The straightforward approach on defense would be for Quinn and Whitt to implement the plan that helped Dallas rank fifth in points and yards allowed last season. Or for Kingsbury, the Arizona Cardinals’ head coach from 2019 to 2022, to load up his staff with various disciples from previous stops. But this Washington brain trust, including first-year general manager Adam Peters, sought a big tent worth of ideas rather than gather assistants with similar experiences.