What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

***OFFICIAL*** Washington Commanders Thread (1 Viewer)

ffmail4me said:
Like I said, I'm okay with it (but this stupid cancel culture forced a change that should have never happened) my only issue is the stupid W font. Just looks awful. The McLaurin jersey they showed looked pretty cool though 
Click to expand...
This is it? Different angle.

I guess the "W" could look better. Looks like a potential logo for Season 4 of Westworld. Placing it on the front of the black helmets is interesting.

But the colors/combinations look pretty sharp. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
With the buzz of this new lawsuit Flores filed against the NFL

Plantation Commanders has quite a ring to it

-We have a city/HS near Ft Laud, FL called Plantation and their mascot is known as the Colonels 

 
For those that are meh, on the name (I think all of us), list one name you would have preferred other than WFT.  Assuming they could buy it if it's trademarked.

Mine is Washington Warthogs ...  first, a warthog is a badass looking animal.  So cool logos and some neat mascot/dress up for fans.  The name rings well.  And it's an homage to the Hogs.  I'm guess Danny's $4B could have bought the name from the indoor soccer team that owned it.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Also, how bout Danny's look today.  sort of mustache.  no shave.  no glasses.  no suit.  completely disheveled.  I bet PR said ... we need you to look like anybody but yourself.

 
Sam Quentin said:
I feel like you could walk up to a 100 random people on the street and ask them what is a cool name for a football team and 100 of them would come up with something better than “Commanders.”
Click to expand...
Even the Washington Trademarks would have been better.

 
Like Tim Cowlishaw said yesterday on Around the Horn, at least the name ends with an S, which is the requirement of all NFL teams.  Personally, I'd have preferred Redhogs, but I'm fine with Commanders, because the name ends with an S.  Not only that, but all NFL teams are supposed to plural-sounding names that end with an S, so that's what make Commanders a legit name.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Brunell4MVP said:
For those that are meh, on the name (I think all of us), list one name you would have preferred other than WFT.  Assuming they could buy it if it's trademarked.

Mine is Washington Warthogs ...  first, a warthog is a badass looking animal.  So cool logos and some neat mascot/dress up for fans.  The name rings well.  And it's an homage to the Hogs.  I'm guess Danny's $4B could have bought the name from the indoor soccer team that owned it.
Click to expand...
Warriors, Generals

Red Wolves

 
BobbyLayne said:
I don’t suppose it’s easy to force the $4Bn sale of a franchise, but dream with me here a minute. Given the ownership history

• notorious racist George Preston Marshall +    
• the current train wreck +
• the PR disaster that is the Flores lawsuit

it would be a brilliant coup for the league to eliminate the Snyder cancer & embrace the leagues first black owner in one fell swoop.

Dream on…
Click to expand...
We should just make everything about race. Stupid whites. 

 
Yogibear said:
Like Tim Cowlishaw said yesterday on Around the Horn, at least the name ends with an S, which is the requirement of all NFL teams.  Personally, I'd have preferred Redhogs, but I'm fine with Commanders, because the name ends with an S.  Not only that, but all NFL teams are supposed to plural-sounding names that end with an S, so that's what make Commanders a legit name.
Click to expand...


I was pulling for Commanderz

 
Yogibear said:
Like Tim Cowlishaw said yesterday on Around the Horn, at least the name ends with an S, which is the requirement of all NFL teams.  Personally, I'd have preferred Redhogs, but I'm fine with Commanders, because the name ends with an S.  Not only that, but all NFL teams are supposed to plural-sounding names that end with an S, so that's what make Commanders a legit name.
Click to expand...
Ends with an S?

The Washington Feckless.

 
Yogibear said:
Like Tim Cowlishaw said yesterday on Around the Horn, at least the name ends with an S, which is the requirement of all NFL teams.  Personally, I'd have preferred Redhogs, but I'm fine with Commanders, because the name ends with an S.  Not only that, but all NFL teams are supposed to plural-sounding names that end with an S, so that's what make Commanders a legit name.
Click to expand...
I was disappointed when there was nothing about Hogs.

That woulda been a nice cap tip to the fans, had historic significance, been relatively inoffensive, and would be an animal (which fits with the majority of sports franchises).

The logo opportunities would have been terrific too.

 
Brunell4MVP said:
For those that are meh, on the name (I think all of us), list one name you would have preferred other than WFT.  Assuming they could buy it if it's trademarked.

Mine is Washington Warthogs ...  first, a warthog is a badass looking animal.  So cool logos and some neat mascot/dress up for fans.  The name rings well.  And it's an homage to the Hogs.  I'm guess Danny's $4B could have bought the name from the indoor soccer team that owned it.
Click to expand...
I wanted redwolves.  Just liked the name, the R could still be used and i felt that it was still a bit of a tribute to the native americans which i think would have been nice.  Really not a fan of Commanders at all.  Not surprised Washington leadership messed it up though.  At least the memes have been pretty hilarious.  :shrug:

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
I hated it at first and was embarrassed for the team. But it was so unique, and kind of old school sounding, I really grew to like it.
Click to expand...
Same - at first I thought it was snyder flipping the bird to the NFL for making him chane the name of his team. 

But over time it grew on me. 

Commanders is kinda lame. Maybe in time it will also grow on me.  Probably not. But maybe.

 
I think there's a general consensus that the new name is underwhelming, and the roll out was as well. Especially when the almost 2-year wait is taken into account.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/2/3/22915599/new-accusations-about-washingtons-toxic-workplace-come-out-as-congress-continues-its-investigation

This continuing development of this story is much more interesting to me. The roadblock to Dan Snyder's removal as Team Owner by the NFL really irks me. We've all heard the speculative narrative that if they force him out and he abdicates, disgruntled, he potentially could go 'scorched earth', and almost every NFL franchise has skeleton's in it's closet that they'd go to great lengths to keep hidden...

...but, if a path exists where Goodell/Jerry Jones (I'm fairly certain that behind the scenes, he's in the NFL driver's seat - apparently he's consolidated a block of somewhere between 50-75% of Ownership that will vote his way on almost anything he supports) can approach Snyder under the auspices of 'Dan, if there was an out, you know we'd find it for you, but in this, our hands are tied. Sorry.' , that might be our ticket out of this 2-decades long miasma we've been living in.

 
Oh, and FTR, I don't know how they didn't do whatever it would have taken to have named the Team 'Washington Warriors'. IMHO, that's about as game/set/match as it gets.

The company line was that 'Warriors' was too closely aligned with Native American themes. Warriors have existed across cultures since the dawn of man, so IMHO, that's lazy, and there had to be a workaround. I looked up the history of the Golden State Warriors, who originally were the Philadelphia Warriors, and over the course of 50 years, have modified their name/logo to remove any relationship to Native Americans. I find it hard to imagine anyone thinks of Native Americans when the Golden State Warriors come up in conversation - probably for quite some time now. If that's the case, hasn't the reference to that nickname for a sports team has changed over time to the point where it's now just generic 'Warriors'? Mix some modern military camouflage into the burgundy/gold/white/black and voila! A team name that stands in tribute to all of our military service members rather than just the Top Brass.

I'm really struggling to think that people who are highly regarded in their industry, and paid a lot of money to think about these things, come up with ideas and act on them...and this is the best they can do.

 
So apparently President Biden's dog is named Commander, and he tweeted "I suppose there is room for 2 Commanders in this town"  to which Ron tweeted back "Mr. President, please let your Commander know he is welcome to stop by practice anytime!"

No invitation for Biden to come though  :lmao:  Did I mention I love our coach? ;)

 
ffmail4me said:
So apparently President Biden's dog is named Commander, and he tweeted "I suppose there is room for 2 Commanders in this town"  to which Ron tweeted back "Mr. President, please let your Commander know he is welcome to stop by practice anytime!"

No invitation for Biden to come though  :lmao:  Did I mention I love our coach? ;)
Click to expand...
😂😂😂

 
nittanylion said:
I think there's a general consensus that the new name is underwhelming, and the roll out was as well. Especially when the almost 2-year wait is taken into account.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/2/3/22915599/new-accusations-about-washingtons-toxic-workplace-come-out-as-congress-continues-its-investigation

This continuing development of this story is much more interesting to me. The roadblock to Dan Snyder's removal as Team Owner by the NFL really irks me. We've all heard the speculative narrative that if they force him out and he abdicates, disgruntled, he potentially could go 'scorched earth', and almost every NFL franchise has skeleton's in it's closet that they'd go to great lengths to keep hidden...

...but, if a path exists where Goodell/Jerry Jones (I'm fairly certain that behind the scenes, he's in the NFL driver's seat - apparently he's consolidated a block of somewhere between 50-75% of Ownership that will vote his way on almost anything he supports) can approach Snyder under the auspices of 'Dan, if there was an out, you know we'd find it for you, but in this, our hands are tied. Sorry.' , that might be our ticket out of this 2-decades long miasma we've been living in.
Click to expand...
Both Washington and the League may be in trouble now

Turns out the the NFL actually took explicit steps to legally make sure that the “investigation” was really all about figuring out how to best protect Snyder than it was to get the truth and find justice. A legal arrangement was actually made that meant that a lot of the investigation actually would fall under attorney client privilege and make it impossible for anyone to get their hands on it. It’s been lie after lie and deception after deception from Goodell on this thing. 

 
GroveDiesel said:
Both Washington and the League may be in trouble now

Turns out the the NFL actually took explicit steps to legally make sure that the “investigation” was really all about figuring out how to best protect Snyder than it was to get the truth and find justice. A legal arrangement was actually made that meant that a lot of the investigation actually would fall under attorney client privilege and make it impossible for anyone to get their hands on it. It’s been lie after lie and deception after deception from Goodell on this thing. 
Click to expand...
so your saying there is a chance he will go?  please please please!!!

 
PinkydaPimp said:
so your saying there is a chance he will go?  please please please!!!
Click to expand...
Not any time soon I don’t think. The NFL clearly circled the wagons and hooked their fates together. The only way Snyder is going down is if Congress legitimately pursues it and the NFL will fight it tooth and nail the whole way. Best case, IMO, is Congress really goes after it, a woman involved sues and gets the legal arrangement invalidated and forces the release of the documents, and the resulting nuclear fallout and extent of the coverup eventually forces both Snyder and Goodell out in humiliation a few years from now.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Both Washington and the League may be in trouble now

Turns out the the NFL actually took explicit steps to legally make sure that the “investigation” was really all about figuring out how to best protect Snyder than it was to get the truth and find justice. A legal arrangement was actually made that meant that a lot of the investigation actually would fall under attorney client privilege and make it impossible for anyone to get their hands on it. It’s been lie after lie and deception after deception from Goodell on this thing. 
Click to expand...
Reprehensible from the NFL yet again.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Both Washington and the League may be in trouble now

Turns out the the NFL actually took explicit steps to legally make sure that the “investigation” was really all about figuring out how to best protect Snyder than it was to get the truth and find justice. A legal arrangement was actually made that meant that a lot of the investigation actually would fall under attorney client privilege and make it impossible for anyone to get their hands on it. It’s been lie after lie and deception after deception from Goodell on this thing. 
Click to expand...
This is news?

 
I always hoped for the Red Tails.  An homage to the Tuskegee Airmen of WW2.  As far as the new name, I associate the name with them representing the city of the Commander-In-Chief (regardless of which party is in power).

And yes, the new name is meh.

 
I just want to this team to win like it did during my childhood (80s/90s) I really don't care what name is on the jersey. I will also always call them my beloved Redskins, this cancel culture can't tell me what to call my favorite team  :grad:

 
I did not hear about this before.  From PFT:

On March 5, 2021, the station’s long-time morning show, The Sports Junkies, reported that they had received a portion of a written report prepared by attorney Beth Wilkinson. The report included a recommendation that the league “force the owner to divest his ownership of the team.”
Click to expand...


Of course, the report was never sent to the NFL.

Link to the PFT story:  https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/07/106-7-the-fan-got-it-right-with-its-report-regarding-the-washington-investigation/

 
need2know said:
Terrible name
Click to expand...


It's a great name if the team starts winning Super Bowls.

Phoebe Cates was in a movie with Matthew Modine called Private School. Modine is an acting stiff, he would fit right in with the cast of the Blair Witch Project. It was on Cates to carry that movie all by herself.

The interesting thing is part of the strategy in that film was to put Cates in as much unflattering tacky outfits as possible to draw away from her seductive vixen theme in Fast Times At Ridgemont High role. Private School wanted a more sedate wholesome Cates image.

The problem was that Phoebe Cates was a pure smokeshow dime piece. You could put her in a Hot Dog On A Stick uniform and she'd still look like a SI Swimsuit model. You could dress her up like the crazy killer clown from Stephen King's IT, and her Pennywise routine would still make guys sit upright in those movie chairs.

The point of this ( Beyond Cates being the perfect blend of sexy and cute, which Steve Carrell was talking about in Crazy Stupid Love) is that winning is sexy and if you keep winning, everyone looks "cute" even a puntable team name like the Commanders.

It's part of the "Halo Effect" which means if you are seen as undeniably attractive, that all your other qualities are assumed to be positive and uplifting and virtuous as well. How do you know if Phoebe Cates is a "great charming sweet girl"?  She's hot as hell or was but people just assume that. But that's pretty basic psychology and sociology at work. Cates could have been running a secret drug ring and importing children in shipping containers for all we know.

So this is kind of a "Reverse Halo Effect" where the stink of Dan Snyder makes everyone else look ugly.

Pick anyone in Hollywood where you think their face could stop a clock. Then have them, in slow motion, come out of the pool like Cates did in Fast Times. Do you think it's going to have the same effect? You go from a Perfect 10 to a Middling 2. Now put that Middling 2 in Private School. Then those tacky outfits are completely garish and make you want to puke.

People just hate Dan Snyder.  And Snyder has given people lots of reasons to hate him. But let's be clear about the methodology in which a pretty pedestrian team football now is now a sign of the future apocalypse simply because Dimwit Dan chose it for Washington.

In the 80's, if I had singular Ahab moment, it was trying to find a Phoebe Cates clone with a strong mix of Belinda Carlisle and maybe a dash of young Lauren Bacall. That was my white whale. I would drive my Porsche to the record store sometimes and see what real people looked like to remind myself of such an ill fated pursuit and realize fiction is better than truth sometimes, until it's not.

Keeping with that, some of you have " white whale " where you envision a world and life for the former Redskins without Dan Snyder. I don't see that happening. Sorry my football brothers, I don't see that happening.

The best you guys are going to get is maybe the Jennifer Grey tier post Red Dawn.

 
Marvelous said:
I did not hear about this before.  From PFT:

Of course, the report was never sent to the NFL.

Link to the PFT story:  https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/07/106-7-the-fan-got-it-right-with-its-report-regarding-the-washington-investigation/
Click to expand...
This part is beyond ridiculous:

the league never received a written report, because the league didn’t want a written report. In the end, Commissioner Roger Goodell received an oral report from Wilkinson.
Click to expand...
How in the world does an organization of this size close out a matter like this with an oral report?

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

K
Official #3 Pick Strategy Discussion (Redraft, PPR, 12 Teams)
Replies
10
Views
2K
kyoun1e
K
Ministry of Pain
Atlanta Falcons Offense '24- WR/RB/TE/QB and the OL
Replies
3
Views
1K
zamboni
zamboni
Ministry of Pain
Jim Harbaugh vs Patrick Mahomes or How the West was Won
Replies
0
Views
420
Ministry of Pain
Ministry of Pain

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top