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***** Official Westworld Thread ***** (1 Viewer)

There is no guarantee it is the same Dolores.

If she gained too much sentience or something happened in the past and let's say she got destroyed or something they wouldn't have to reprogram her.

If they liked her build and function in the park they could just build a new one.

 
The Duff Man said:
There is no guarantee it is the same Dolores.

If she gained too much sentience or something happened in the past and let's say she got destroyed or something they wouldn't have to reprogram her.

If they liked her build and function in the park they could just build a new one.
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this would be a reasonable explanation that would work

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Well it was 30 years ago, but we've been shown that Stubbs, for example, is.  As is Cullen.  With QA, her entire function seems to be to argue to decommission at the first sign of irregularity. 
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:shrug:  Maybe, but I have generally thought of that as not performing their story lines, not that they were concerned for the safety of the guests.  Stubbs seems to have a healthy respect for what they could do, but even still he was very surprised when that host wasn't stopping on command and crushed his own skull.

 
The Gator said:
You're the guy who watched Mad Max Fury Road on your iPhone, on a plane, and said it was boring, right?

Maybe pay attention to this one, fella
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This show has some of the same issues that had.  No characters that you care if they die in a fire.  I mean I guess Dolores is somewhat likable, but that's about it.  And she's not really a person, but a robot, which I guess I can get behind.  

They are trying to inject some amount of mystery, but I feel like the progression is writing itself. :shrug:   I mean it's just a matter of time until a guest gets hurt, and the robots turn on their makers. Then you have that zombie robot army in the basement.  Just a matter of time before daddy leads them out of there.  

 
culdeus said:
This show has some of the same issues that had.  No characters that you care if they die in a fire.  I mean I guess Dolores is somewhat likable, but that's about it.  And she's not really a person, but a robot, which I guess I can get behind.  

They are trying to inject some amount of mystery, but I feel like the progression is writing itself. :shrug:   I mean it's just a matter of time until a guest gets hurt, and the robots turn on their makers. Then you have that zombie robot army in the basement.  Just a matter of time before daddy leads them out of there.  
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it's how they use the means at their disposal to tell that story.... not just the story. IMO, that's what's been so compelling straight along, along with the tweaks on what is human/humanity and what the mystery of when/what/who is going on. 

if you want a different story and don't care about the production, acting, writing, editing, music... like I said earlier- best to bail on this one if it hasn't grabbed you after 3 episodes.

 
Westworld, the movie, was a simple robot uprising horror movie.  The show is obviously striving to be something far more than that.  Precisely because you can't fill 60 hours of story with a robot uprising horror movie.  Is there going to be an uprising?  Likely.  Maybe even multiple ones.  But that's so far from the end game or purpose of the show that I can't imagine it as a complaint.  There are lots of ways this could shake out.  We could have seasons of content focusing on the hosts after an uprising, trying to deal with the consequences of having developed free will while having personalities and histories that were literally programmed into them.

 
culdeus said:
This show has some of the same issues that had.  No characters that you care if they die in a fire.  I mean I guess Dolores is somewhat likable, but that's about it.  And she's not really a person, but a robot, which I guess I can get behind.  

They are trying to inject some amount of mystery, but I feel like the progression is writing itself. :shrug:   I mean it's just a matter of time until a guest gets hurt, and the robots turn on their makers. Then you have that zombie robot army in the basement.  Just a matter of time before daddy leads them out of there.  
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Speaking of army...are all the bots being made that we see during the show dudes?

Maybe this is a front for building military robots

 
The Gator said:
You're the guy who watched Mad Max Fury Road on your iPhone, on a plane, and said it was boring, right?

Maybe pay attention to this one, fella
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:lmao:   I said that exact same thing. 

I'm down with Westworld tho.  

 
culdeus said:
This show has some of the same issues that had.  No characters that you care if they die in a fire.  I mean I guess Dolores is somewhat likable, but that's about it.  And she's not really a person, but a robot, which I guess I can get behind.  
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We are not watching the same show, apparently. 

 
Teresa is a bot. Nah.

But good call in here on the other stuff.  That episode was fun.

 
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More astute people than me in here noticed that Ford came out of nowhere in that cottage last episode. I wasn't concerned about it if it was a continuity or set design issue... thought Fords inclusion was more important to the story than whether the production team missed a door. Stupid me to doubt the production here.... makes me realize I have to pay a LOT closer attention to pretty much everything- as every frame and move appears to have intent.

 
So I'm curious how many clues, aside from the door/non-door last week, can be found by watching the show know Bernie is a bot. 

 
I think the takeaway that is the most fun from last night's episode is that we now know that what see on screen when the character is a bot, is what the bot sees.  So the question becomes now is there stuff in the park and in the offices and HQ that we haven't seen yet because we've only been in those moments with a bot who can't see something.   Could lend itself to some interesting things.

And now that we know he is a bot, we also know that Ford knows everything so far.  Granted, he pretty much said it in the final scene, but now we know.

 
Bernard being a bot is hardly suprising.

The brutality by which he killed Theresa though? Again, nothing in here is superfluous.  

A lot of ways that could have gone down. Instead, it was a few debilitating punches from the "kindhearted" Bernard, before smashy smashy into the wall. While not a prolonged death, it was an especially raw and violent one.

 
Koya said:
Bernard being a bot is hardly suprising.

The brutality by which he killed Theresa though? Again, nothing in here is superfluous.  

A lot of ways that could have gone down. Instead, it was a few debilitating punches from the "kindhearted" Bernard, before smashy smashy into the wall. While not a prolonged death, it was an especially raw and violent one.
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I don't know why it did not dawn on me last night - but a bot killed a person :oldunsure:

Wasn't Delores one of the blueprints - we already know she can kill living things...

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
cstu was a host all along!

Gotta say that Hulk has been all over this stuff from Ep 2.  The Bernard = Arnold hypothesis seems very, very likely now considering some of the dialogue choices.
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It also halfway explains that photo, too.  Since we saw it through Bernard's eyes, and he can't "see" anything that would cause him harm or question himself.  That's why there appears to be a blank space, Bernard was built in Arnold's image.  

 
bigmarc27 said:
Only because people pick and analyze every single detail of everything now. 

You throw enough theories against the wall, some are bound to happen. 
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I don't know Bernard as a bot seemed to be a favorite theory almost from the beginning - lot of clues along the way, particularly in how Ford interacted with him.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I don't know Bernard as a bot seemed to be a favorite theory almost from the beginning - lot of clues along the way, particularly in how Ford interacted with him.
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from the first episode we were talking about it in here- and we're not even that smart.

 
Spin said:
It also halfway explains that photo, too.  Since we saw it through Bernard's eyes, and he can't "see" anything that would cause him harm or question himself.  That's why there appears to be a blank space, Bernard was built in Arnold's image.  
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And what would cause him harm? Seeing himself...Arnold 

That pic definitely fits three people; Ford, his dad and Arnold 

 
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