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*** OFFICIAL WIS XVI Draft Thread *** (1 Viewer)

9.11 (203): Doug B -OTC (xx:32)

9.12 (204): Doctor Detroit - On Deck

9.13 (205): Brady Marino - In the hole

9.14 (206): oso diablo - :coffee:

9.15 (207): Koya - :coffee: :coffee:

 
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'Notorious T.R.E. said:
Sorry - meetings - show me...Richie Ashburn?
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9.3 - Richie Ashburn, CF Phillies
Don Richard "Richie" Ashburn was also known by the nicknames, "Putt-Putt", "The Tilden Flash", and "Whitey" due to his light-blond hair.

Ashburn was a singles hitter rather than a slugger, accumulating over 2,500 hits in 15 years against only 29 home runs. In his day he was regarded as the archetypal "spray hitter," stroking the ball equally well to all fields, thus making him harder to defend against. Ashburn accumulated the most hits (1,875) of any batter during the 1950s.

During an August 17, 1957, game, Ashburn hit a foul ball into the stands that struck spectator Alice Roth, wife of Philadelphia Bulletin sports editor, Earl Roth, breaking her nose. When play resumed Ashburn fouled off another ball that struck her while she was being carried off in a stretcher. Ashburn and Ms. Roth maintained a friendship for many years, and the Roth's son later served as a Phillies batboy.

Ashburn was drafted by the expansion New York Mets for the 1962 season. He had a good year offensively, batting .306, and was the team's first-ever All-Star Game representative.

One oft-told story is that on short flies to center or left-center, center fielder Ashburn would collide with shortstop Elio Chacón. Chacón, from Venezuela, spoke little English and had difficulty understanding when Ashburn was calling him off the ball. To remedy matters teammate Joe Christopher taught Ashburn to say "Yo la tengo," Spanish for "I’ve got it." When Ashburn first used this phrase it worked fine, keeping Chacón from running into him. But then left fielder Frank Thomas, who did not speak a word of Spanish, slammed into Ashburn. After getting up Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the heck is a Yellow Tango?"

Ashburn was well known for his dry humor as a broadcaster. On one occasion he was talking to Harry Kalas about his superstitions during his playing days. He said that he once had a habit of keeping a successful baseball bat in bed with him between games, not trusting the clubhouse crew to give him the same bat the next day. Ashburn told Kalas that he had "slept with a lot of old bats" in his day.
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9.12 1B Ted Kluszewski/Redlegs

The area known as Argo is located eight miles west of old Comiskey Park, a lowdown five-figure town known for a corn milling and processing plant that is among the largest of its kind – and has the odor to prove it. It was also home to Ted “Klu” Kluszewski, the 6-foot-2, 225-pound mountain of a man with the famous 15-inch biceps, whose legend in baseball and White Sox history will live even longer and go farther than the home runs he hit decades ago.

Kluszewski has often been referred to as one of the most underappreciated players of the post-World War II era; one whose accomplishments as a player and a coach have remained under the radar far too long. In the mid-1950s, Klu was the original “Big Red Machine,” a long-ball hitter and run-producer without peer. In the four seasons from 1953 to 1956, he averaged 179 hits, 43 homers, and 116 RBIs, numbers every bit as impressive as those of Eddie Mathews (152-41-109) and Duke Snider (180-42-123) in the same period. It's not a stretch to believe that, if Kluszewski had stayed healthy and productive for four or five more seasons, he would have joined Mathews and Snider in the Hall of Fame. Despite an abbreviated career, his 251 homers rank fifth on the Reds’ all-time list.
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Also you can stop pming me when I'm up. I get phone texts, those are good enough. TIA.
 
9.13- OF George Foster, Cincy Reds

This game was highlighted by a bench-clearing brawl that was ignited when the Reds' Eric Davis stole third base in the tenth inning. After a hard tag by Mets third baseman Ray Knight, the two men exchanged words, leading to Knight's punching Davis in the face.[35] Both benches emptied with the exception of Foster. Foster said that he stayed out of the ruckus because it set a bad example for children. Staying on the bench, however, set a worse example for his teammates.[36] After the series in Cincinnati, the manager Johnson officially announced Mitchell as the everyday left fielder.[37]

Foster complained that his demotion was racially motivated.[38] A very unusual incident, this comment by Mr. Foster created unfortunate turmoil with the fans, and inside the team. Indeed, fellow outfielder Daryl Strawberry was noted as saying "Maybe I am next." Yet the Mets soldiered on, with Foster making only fourteen plate appearances after that, walking once, getting one single, and striking out six times. However, this was just one more disturbance among many, in a tumultuous season for the team, as they became engaged in not just the one fight mentioned above, but 3 others. On August 7, the Mets released Foster and replaced him on their major league roster with Lee Mazzilli.[39] Interestingly, Mazzilli, an old Met, would later go on to make some key contributions to the World Series win that year.
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Yes, I have yet to draft a lefty bat (Simmons is switch). I call it the Anti-Larry Method.
 
George Grantham 2B Pirates

I don't have any guys that walk much, and although you have a lot of low BB guys here, he should still hold his own for about 500PAs as a potential leadoff guy. Walks and XBH's hopefully translate well enough, and ok D.

 
'the moops said:
franco and others. how good/bad are my picks?show your work with those fancy #'s
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Like Waddell, SchuppFine with with Perry, CliftDon't like Seaver, always terrible for meNot sure about Morgan/Killebrew.Yankee I probably not great for Killer and Clift.
 
'Doug B said:
'Koya said:
Does anyone have three? I think I have two but from the Pre Nerd Era™
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Not yet -- you, Kraft, and I have two.One thing I'd like to get is all time playoff appearances and World Series runners up. This should be possible to research if anyone is a real e-mail packrat. WIS.com, at the end of each season, e-mails all league participants the playoff series results.

I have a bunch of these old e-mails, but not all of them, I don't think.
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I have two playoff appearances.
 
'Brady Marino said:
'jfranco77 said:
'the moops said:
franco and others. how good/bad are my picks?show your work with those fancy #'s
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Like Waddell, SchuppFine with with Perry, CliftDon't like Seaver, always terrible for meNot sure about Morgan/Killebrew.Yankee I probably not great for Killer and Clift.
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What about my team? I'm not excited about it at all, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I like it. Heinie is an error factory at 3B but his bat is probably worth it. Fairly balanced offense. Defense (shaky catcher, holes at SS and maybe CF) could be an issue.
 
'rodg12 said:
'Eephus said:
Sherry Magee Phils
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Sounds made up...
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"On the ball field Magee is so fussy most of the time that people who do not know him naturally form the opinion from his actions that he is a born grouch," wrote the Philadelphia Times after the 1908 season. "That he is one of the most hot-headed players in either big league is admitted; it couldn't be denied, because the records, showing how often he has been suspended for scrapping with the umpires, speak for themselves." Off the field, the young slugger could be just as difficult. The captain of the Phillies during Magee's early years was Kid Gleason, who kept an old leather belt in his locker that he used on young players who misbehaved, and on several occasions Magee literally felt the captain's wrath. Sherry also became known for "crabbing" at teammates. "Magee, like Evers, has an unusual amount of base ball gray matter and spirit," explained one reporter. "This spirit plays for victories and is easily upset when 'bones' are pulled."
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'Eephus said:
'rodg12 said:
'Eephus said:
Sherry Magee Phils
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Sounds made up...
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"On the ball field Magee is so fussy most of the time that people who do not know him naturally form the opinion from his actions that he is a born grouch," wrote the Philadelphia Times after the 1908 season. "That he is one of the most hot-headed players in either big league is admitted; it couldn't be denied, because the records, showing how often he has been suspended for scrapping with the umpires, speak for themselves." Off the field, the young slugger could be just as difficult. The captain of the Phillies during Magee's early years was Kid Gleason, who kept an old leather belt in his locker that he used on young players who misbehaved, and on several occasions Magee literally felt the captain's wrath. Sherry also became known for "crabbing" at teammates. "Magee, like Evers, has an unusual amount of base ball gray matter and spirit," explained one reporter. "This spirit plays for victories and is easily upset when 'bones' are pulled."
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This Kid Gleason could have helped Milton Bradley.
 
'RnR said:
'Eephus said:
'rodg12 said:
'Eephus said:
Sherry Magee Phils
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Sounds made up...
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"On the ball field Magee is so fussy most of the time that people who do not know him naturally form the opinion from his actions that he is a born grouch," wrote the Philadelphia Times after the 1908 season. "That he is one of the most hot-headed players in either big league is admitted; it couldn't be denied, because the records, showing how often he has been suspended for scrapping with the umpires, speak for themselves." Off the field, the young slugger could be just as difficult. The captain of the Phillies during Magee's early years was Kid Gleason, who kept an old leather belt in his locker that he used on young players who misbehaved, and on several occasions Magee literally felt the captain's wrath. Sherry also became known for "crabbing" at teammates. "Magee, like Evers, has an unusual amount of base ball gray matter and spirit," explained one reporter. "This spirit plays for victories and is easily upset when 'bones' are pulled."
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This Kid Gleason could have helped Milton Bradley.
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The Kid wasn't able to do much with Chick Gandil and Swede Risberg
 
'jfranco77 said:
'Brady Marino said:
'jfranco77 said:
'the moops said:
franco and others. how good/bad are my picks?show your work with those fancy #'s
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Like Waddell, SchuppFine with with Perry, CliftDon't like Seaver, always terrible for meNot sure about Morgan/Killebrew.Yankee I probably not great for Killer and Clift.
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What about my team? I'm not excited about it at all, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I like it. Heinie is an error factory at 3B but his bat is probably worth it. Fairly balanced offense. Defense (shaky catcher, holes at SS and maybe CF) could be an issue.
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Simmons is B-/B/A in the year I'm using him. Looks decent to me. :shrug: But agree that Heinie will be oof at 3B and my glaring SS and CF holes are an eyesore. Foster is A/B, which means if I'm absolutely utterly desperate, he could play CF. But I'll try to avoid it and just have him be my one good fielding COF.
 
'Eephus said:
'RnR said:
'Eephus said:
'rodg12 said:
'Eephus said:
Sherry Magee Phils
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Sounds made up...
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"On the ball field Magee is so fussy most of the time that people who do not know him naturally form the opinion from his actions that he is a born grouch," wrote the Philadelphia Times after the 1908 season. "That he is one of the most hot-headed players in either big league is admitted; it couldn't be denied, because the records, showing how often he has been suspended for scrapping with the umpires, speak for themselves." Off the field, the young slugger could be just as difficult. The captain of the Phillies during Magee's early years was Kid Gleason, who kept an old leather belt in his locker that he used on young players who misbehaved, and on several occasions Magee literally felt the captain's wrath. Sherry also became known for "crabbing" at teammates. "Magee, like Evers, has an unusual amount of base ball gray matter and spirit," explained one reporter. "This spirit plays for victories and is easily upset when 'bones' are pulled."
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This Kid Gleason could have helped Milton Bradley.
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The Kid wasn't able to do much with Chick Gandil and Swede Risberg
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Happy Felsch down?
 
'Brady Marino said:
'jfranco77 said:
'Brady Marino said:
'jfranco77 said:
'the moops said:
franco and others. how good/bad are my picks?show your work with those fancy #'s
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Like Waddell, SchuppFine with with Perry, CliftDon't like Seaver, always terrible for meNot sure about Morgan/Killebrew.Yankee I probably not great for Killer and Clift.
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What about my team? I'm not excited about it at all, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I like it. Heinie is an error factory at 3B but his bat is probably worth it. Fairly balanced offense. Defense (shaky catcher, holes at SS and maybe CF) could be an issue.
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Simmons is B-/B/A in the year I'm using him. Looks decent to me. :shrug: But agree that Heinie will be oof at 3B and my glaring SS and CF holes are an eyesore. Foster is A/B, which means if I'm absolutely utterly desperate, he could play CF. But I'll try to avoid it and just have him be my one good fielding COF.
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Oh, I didn't remember Simmons having a defensive year that good. You're fine then.
 
'Doug B said:
'RnR said:
Love this shtick. One pick away, and won't leave the name via PM. Well done, sir.
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I'm usually still mulling over multiple names when I'm one pick away :shrug:
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While I have my nice color coded KoyaSheets, not nearly as much time to devote to these things as I used to. Got a good amount of prep over the weekend, but once the week hits, it's tough.The result is Im usually mulling over multiple names with it is already my pick.
 
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Definitely some feel involved in drafting but I like to have it narrowed down to 2-3 guys five or so picks before I make my pick. To Many names that close gets you to over thinking.

 
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'Koya said:
The result is Im usually mulling over multiple names with it is already my pick.
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How can you not, really? Don't people have to evaluate possible plateaus at positions they may want to punt? Or the likelihood that their Plan B guy will fall if they pass on Plan A guy?
 
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