*** OFFICIAL WIS XVI Draft Thread *** (3 Viewers)

[Bogart]

7.24 - Fergie Jenkins - SP - Cubs8.01 - Buddy Bell -3B - RangersMy team is going to suck, but I'm going to enjoy rooting them on.

 

[RnR]

Let's see where this takes us...

8.02 - J.R. Richard (P, Astros)

PIC

 

[Pumpnick]

who wants a list for tomorrow am?

 

[Koya]

who wants a list for tomorrow am?

Hit me up #####.

 

[Koya]

So, ***ck is ok but bia,tch don't work?

 

[Spartans Rule]

8.3 Tim Burke, RP, Expos

 

[Tremendous Upside]

8.04 Freddy Lindstrom, 3B NY Giants

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

8.05 Eddie Joost SS Athletics

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

8.06 Bill Terry 1B Giants

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Normalized Stats:1B Bill Terry 377/434/587 C/A+2B Eddie Collins 358/431/490 B/A-SS Joe Cronin 331/410/493 B/A3B Al Rosen 336/417/612 B+/A-OF Joe Dimaggio 371/435/659 B+/A+SP Orval Overall 302 IP 1.76/.209/1.07 .03 HR/9SP Reb Russell 279 IP 2.82/.228/0.99 .03 HR/9SP Cy Blanton 270 IP 2.51/.222/1.07 .11 HR/9

 

[jfranco77]

Ok, let's hope this guy comes anywhere close to his statsDarrell Porter, C Royals

 

[Frostillicus]

Eric Davis, Reds

 

[Brady Marino]

Eeph is Pacfic time zone, but I'm pretty sure he's up by now for early morning church.

 

[the moops]

Not sure why I expected either of Lindstrom or Terry to make it all the way back around to me.Plan C!

 

[jfranco77]

SS Arky 646pa C/C+ 376/490/603RF Herman 736pa B/D 368/437/6471B Gehrig 755pa B/A+ 360/461/7593B Boggs 667pa B+/C- 361/458/566C Porter 679pa C/C+/A+ 287/418/470Pretty sure Porter will hit 8th, will probably go Arky-Herman-Gehrig for the top 3 spots, though Gehrig could just hit 2nd since he has enough PAs for it. Sp1 Coveleski 314ip 0.99whip 0.09/118hr .204oav# 2.91bb# 6.63ip/g 1.98erc#Sp2 Coombs 382ip 1.03whip 0.0/9999hr .212oav# 3.17bb# 7.84ip/g 2.20erc#Sp3 McQuillan 379ip 0.98whip 0.03/486hr .223oav# 2.54bb# 7.49ip/g 2.18erc#Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

 

[Brady Marino]

Eeph is Pacfic time zone, but I'm pretty sure he's up by now for early morning church.

Church must have been cancelled this morning.

 

[Doug B]

And yes, I am Eastern time. I live in West Michigan so it's the very far west end of Eastern time.

I looked at a time-&-date site for the winter sunrise & sunset times for Houghton, MI in the UP. That was about the furthest west sizeable town I could find in the Eastern Time zone.It would be weird to walk outside at a quarter to 8 a.m. and seeing pitch black.West Coast guys -- isn't L.A. the opposite? In the summer, there are nights where it doesn't get dark until 9 p.m.? Thought I heard that before.

 

[Doug B]

Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

You're not the only WIS player I've seen do this ... but I've noticed that you'll sell out a ton of other stats for low HR/9. Some other people sell out everything else for low BB/9.

 

[the moops]

West Coast guys -- isn't L.A. the opposite? In the summer, there are nights where it doesn't get dark until 9 p.m.? Thought I heard that before.

Here in Minneapolis it doesnt get dark until well after 9pm in the summer.

 

[Eephus]

Billy Williams Cubbies

 

[Koya]

Been a while (first pick actually) since I went real team scarcity:

Cal Eldred, P Brew Crew.

I'll take 100 really good starting innings and a franchise that is not exactly deep.

 

[Koya]

West Coast guys -- isn't L.A. the opposite? In the summer, there are nights where it doesn't get dark until 9 p.m.? Thought I heard that before.

Here in Minneapolis it doesnt get dark until well after 9pm in the summer.

I don't remember days being that long in LA. While you are on the Western Part of the time zone, you are pretty far south.Now, up in the Pacific Northwest, you are even further west, and much further north. But since it's always cloudy and drizzling, you don't know when the sun's up anyhoo.

 

[oso diablo]

8.10 Andre Dawson - OF - Expos

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[Brady Marino]

8.12- C Ted Simmons, St. Louis Cardinals

In a twenty-one-year major league career, Simmons played in 2,456 games, accumulating 2,472 hits in 8,680 at bats for a .285 career batting average along with 248 home runs, 1,389 runs batted in and a .348 on base percentage.[1] He ended his career with a .986 fielding percentage.[1] An eight-time All-Star, he batted above .300 seven times, reached 20 home runs six times, and eight times exceeded 90 runs batted in. He switch-hit home runs in a game three times and established a since-broken National League career record for home runs by a switch-hitter (182).[23][29] Simmons held major league records for catchers with 2,472 career hits and 483 doubles, since broken by Iván Rodríguez. He ranks second all-time among catchers with 1,389 runs batted in and 10th with 248 home runs.[23] He caught 122 shutouts in his career, ranking him eighth all-time.

Pretty to grab him here, as I sense a LarryPlateau with catchers coming.Edit: formatting

 

[Doctor Detroit]

8.13 P Mike Cuellar/Orioles

 

[Doug B]

Will pick soon ... looking some things over.

 

[Koya]

8.13 P Mike Cuellar/Orioles

Was looking at him, really solid year and a lot of innings at this point in the draft. But there are few Brewers to be had (still a couple out there that will provide some value), so went scarcity.

 

[larry_boy_44]

8.13 P Mike Cuellar/Orioles

Was looking at him, really solid year and a lot of innings at this point in the draft. But there are few Brewers to be had (still a couple out there that will provide some value), so went scarcity.

you don't have to lie to make me feel better. I know how bad they are!

 

[Doug B]

8.14 (182): Twins SP Wolff, Roger

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

8.14 (182): Twins SP Wolff, Roger

Kind of steal this late, imo.

 

[Doug B]

8.14 (182): Twins SP Wolff, Roger

Kind of steal this late, imo.

Hope you're right ... been punting pitching awhile. If my squad doesn't rake, it's going to be a long season.Not that he's some kind of HOFer or anything, but I can't remember Wolff ever being selected in a past draft. I'm sure he was, though.

 

[Greco]

I'm thinking I could pick the rest of my team, which I pretty much have on the WIS site, and not snipe anybody.

 

[Kraft...]

Hoos First - OTC (Clock up @ xx:17)

pumpnick(I have list)

the moops

rodg12

SNC

larry_boy_44

Greco

Notorious TRE

Kraft

Chemical X

 

[jfranco77]

Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

You're not the only WIS player I've seen do this ... but I've noticed that you'll sell out a ton of other stats for low HR/9. Some other people sell out everything else for low BB/9.

HRs hurt a lot. I worry that In This Formattm, hits might hurt worse. But there's only so much you can do to prevent hits (.190oav# is about as good as it gets for a starter, especially those left) and you can cut down HRs a lot more than that. So I'm trying to trade 30% more hits for 80% less HRs. The trick is to build an offense that isn't completely dependent on HRs so I still have a chance in Kaufmann or a park like that where my pitchers give up even more hits.

 

[jfranco77]

8.10 Andre Dawson - OF - Expos

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Outstanding pick. I waffled between him and Porter a lot.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

You're not the only WIS player I've seen do this ... but I've noticed that you'll sell out a ton of other stats for low HR/9. Some other people sell out everything else for low BB/9.

HRs hurt a lot. I worry that In This Formattm, hits might hurt worse. But there's only so much you can do to prevent hits (.190oav# is about as good as it gets for a starter, especially those left) and you can cut down HRs a lot more than that. So I'm trying to trade 30% more hits for 80% less HRs. The trick is to build an offense that isn't completely dependent on HRs so I still have a chance in Kaufmann or a park like that where my pitchers give up even more hits.

Is this a Greco alias? You guys approach this draft the EXACT SAME WAY.

 

[jfranco77]

Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

You're not the only WIS player I've seen do this ... but I've noticed that you'll sell out a ton of other stats for low HR/9. Some other people sell out everything else for low BB/9.

HRs hurt a lot. I worry that In This Formattm, hits might hurt worse. But there's only so much you can do to prevent hits (.190oav# is about as good as it gets for a starter, especially those left) and you can cut down HRs a lot more than that. So I'm trying to trade 30% more hits for 80% less HRs. The trick is to build an offense that isn't completely dependent on HRs so I still have a chance in Kaufmann or a park like that where my pitchers give up even more hits.

Is this a Greco alias? You guys approach this draft the EXACT SAME WAY.

Greco, the guy who took McNally and McLain? If you want a team that could be mine, other than mine, it's rodg12.

 

[Frostillicus]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

Normalized numbers...it's on your spreadsheet, dum-dum.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

You're not the only WIS player I've seen do this ... but I've noticed that you'll sell out a ton of other stats for low HR/9. Some other people sell out everything else for low BB/9.

HRs hurt a lot. I worry that In This Formattm, hits might hurt worse. But there's only so much you can do to prevent hits (.190oav# is about as good as it gets for a starter, especially those left) and you can cut down HRs a lot more than that. So I'm trying to trade 30% more hits for 80% less HRs. The trick is to build an offense that isn't completely dependent on HRs so I still have a chance in Kaufmann or a park like that where my pitchers give up even more hits.

Is this a Greco alias? You guys approach this draft the EXACT SAME WAY.

Greco, the guy who took McNally and McLain? If you want a team that could be mine, other than mine, it's rodg12.

The jerk store called, they are running out of you.

 

[Hoos First]

Dan Quisenberry

 

[Doctor Detroit]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

Both/neither work

 

[Kraft...]

for Pump

8.16 - Dolph Camilli 1B Phillies

 

[jfranco77]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

Those are log5 numbers. Basically a realistic projection for what the guy should produce based on the combination of their RL numbers and their + numbers.110 AVG+ and .300 AVG is not the same thing as 110 AVG+ and .330 AVG. The first guy would have an AVG# of .310 (guessing) and the second would be .340. So even though they are both 110 AVG+, the second guy is better. It's most noticeable in HR/9+. A guy with HR numbers of 0.12raw/98+ (Dutch Leonard) will give up about 50 less HRs than a guy with HR numbers of 0.90raw/98+. And the HR/9# of a guy like Leonard will be like 0.15, and the second guy will be like 0.85.

 

[the moops]

there goes my 1b. doh. one sec

 

[Frostillicus]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

Normalized numbers...it's on your spreadsheet, dum-dum.

I thought that's what the + was?

 

[rodg12]

Solid rotation, keeps the ball in the park, going to give up a lot of hits, hoping the offense can carry starter ERAs in the 5s.

You're not the only WIS player I've seen do this ... but I've noticed that you'll sell out a ton of other stats for low HR/9. Some other people sell out everything else for low BB/9.

HRs hurt a lot. I worry that In This Formattm, hits might hurt worse. But there's only so much you can do to prevent hits (.190oav# is about as good as it gets for a starter, especially those left) and you can cut down HRs a lot more than that. So I'm trying to trade 30% more hits for 80% less HRs. The trick is to build an offense that isn't completely dependent on HRs so I still have a chance in Kaufmann or a park like that where my pitchers give up even more hits.

Is this a Greco alias? You guys approach this draft the EXACT SAME WAY.

Greco, the guy who took McNally and McLain? If you want a team that could be mine, other than mine, it's rodg12.

 

[the moops]

I hate my team.

8.17 Ferdie Schupp - P, Giants

 

[Eephus]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

Normalized numbers...it's on your spreadsheet, dum-dum.

I thought that's what the + was?

# is log5

 

[Frostillicus]

What are the stats that end with #? Should I be using those rather than + numbers? And if so, you're all cheaters.

Those are log5 numbers. Basically a realistic projection for what the guy should produce based on the combination of their RL numbers and their + numbers.110 AVG+ and .300 AVG is not the same thing as 110 AVG+ and .330 AVG. The first guy would have an AVG# of .310 (guessing) and the second would be .340. So even though they are both 110 AVG+, the second guy is better. It's most noticeable in HR/9+. A guy with HR numbers of 0.12raw/98+ (Dutch Leonard) will give up about 50 less HRs than a guy with HR numbers of 0.90raw/98+. And the HR/9# of a guy like Leonard will be like 0.15, and the second guy will be like 0.85.

Ok, so you are all cheaters.