*** OFFICIAL WIS XVI Draft Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[Brady Marino]

14.3 Joe Grzenda, LHP, Senatorangers

Words can't even begin to express how much I hate my team.

I threw up in my mouth a little when I took Bob Ojeda and realized he's my 4th starter in an all-time draft.

 

[Spartans Rule]

14.3 Joe Grzenda, LHP, Senatorangers

Words can't even begin to express how much I hate my team.

I used him before. He was pretty decent as I recall.

He should be a solid lefty.This last turn was the first time I really started getting nailed by franchise problems.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

This draft ended for me the minute I figured out I could not roster Kiki Cuyler with my last pick.Tomorrow and Thursday I am out all day at the Pentagon, limited phone. You can text me but if I don't answer in 10 minutes, skip.

I too have been looking at Cuyler for about 7 rounds. There are still several OF options I like a lot -- just not quite as much as ol' Kiki. Couldn't make myself pull the trigger and instead of been filling in more scarce teams/positions.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Crap Kraft, you're rightSorryRepick coming

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

14.05 Mike Jorgensen 1B Les Expos de Montréal

 

[Doug B]

Don't you already have a Tiger?

Thanks for the catch

 

[Kraft...]

Bogart x2 makeup

Tremendous Upside Repicking

Arsenal of Doom - OTC (Clock up @ xx:39)

jfranco77

Frostillicus

eephus

Koya

oso diablo

Brady Marino

Doctor Detroit

Doug B

Hoos First

pumpnick

the moops

rodg12

SNC

larry_boy_44

Greco

Notorious TRE

Kraft

Chemical X

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Carl Mays SP Red Sox

 

[Eephus]

Has anybody texted AoD?

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

14.3 Joe Grzenda, LHP, Senatorangers

Words can't even begin to express how much I hate my team.

I threw up in my mouth a little when I took Bob Ojeda and realized he's my 4th starter in an all-time draft.

You guys are making feel better about taking 4 starters early, cause my offense is gonna suck.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

14.04 Steve Sax, 2B Les Doyers

 

[Kraft...]

Bogart x2 makeup

jfranco77 - OTC (Clock up @ xx:50)

Frostillicus

eephus

Koya

oso diablo

Brady Marino

Doctor Detroit

Doug B

Hoos First

pumpnick

the moops

rodg12

SNC

larry_boy_44

Greco

Notorious TRE

Kraft

Chemical X

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

How many IP do you need from each start to go with a 3 man rotation? 330+?I have a 4 man right now with:342314230306Just wondering if there's any chance of dropping to a 3 man sometimes.

 

[jfranco77]

Am I the only one considering a five-man rotation for this?

I will have to mix a 5th starter in occasionally.

I've had my 3-man since round 7, though I have thought about going with a crazy 4-man, 1200+ inning rotation given what's left in the pitching pool.

 

[jfranco77]

updating sheet now, gimme a couple.

 

[jfranco77]

I'll probably regret this as I don't need the depth. But I can't resist the urge to get a useful Met.

Cleon Jones, OF, Mets

The Mets were heavy underdogs in the 1969 World Series but took a 3–1 series lead. The Orioles were ahead 3–0 in Game five when Jones led off the sixth inning. Dave McNally struck Jones in the foot with a pitch, however, home plate umpire Lou DiMuro ruled that the ball missed Jones. Gil Hodges emerged from the dugout to argue, and showed DiMuro the shoe-polish smudged ball. DiMuro reversed his call, and awarded Jones first base. The following batter, Donn Clendenon, hit a two-run home run to pull the Mets within a run of Baltimore.

Following an Al Weis solo home run in the seventh to tie the game, Jones led off the eighth inning with a double, and scored on Ron Swoboda's double two batters later. With the Mets leading 5–3 in the ninth inning, Orioles second baseman Davey Johnson lifted a lazy fly ball which Jones caught to win the World Series

 

[jfranco77]

How many IP do you need from each start to go with a 3 man rotation? 330+?I have a 4 man right now with:342314230306Just wondering if there's any chance of dropping to a 3 man sometimes.

342/314/306 is pushing it. It would work as long as you have a deep bullpen. My team is 314/382/379.

 

[Frostillicus]

rp Phil Regan, Doggers

 

[Brady Marino]

How many IP do you need from each start to go with a 3 man rotation? 330+?I have a 4 man right now with:342314230306Just wondering if there's any chance of dropping to a 3 man sometimes.

342/314/306 is pushing it. It would work as long as you have a deep bullpen. My team is 314/382/379.

Is 365/256/226/193 enough for a four man or am I going to need a 5th?

 

[Kraft...]

Bogart x2 makeup

eephus - OTC (Clock up @ xx:12)

Koya

oso diablo

Brady Marino

Doctor Detroit

Doug B

Hoos First

pumpnick

the moops

rodg12

SNC

larry_boy_44

Greco

Notorious TRE

Kraft

Chemical X

 

[jfranco77]

How many IP do you need from each start to go with a 3 man rotation? 330+?I have a 4 man right now with:342314230306Just wondering if there's any chance of dropping to a 3 man sometimes.

342/314/306 is pushing it. It would work as long as you have a deep bullpen. My team is 314/382/379.

Is 365/256/226/193 enough for a four man or am I going to need a 5th?

I would say 1000 is probably a good target. That's going to be a little less than 6 innings/game. (6*162 = 972, but we'll have high pitch counts).

 

[Brady Marino]

How many IP do you need from each start to go with a 3 man rotation? 330+?I have a 4 man right now with:342314230306Just wondering if there's any chance of dropping to a 3 man sometimes.

342/314/306 is pushing it. It would work as long as you have a deep bullpen. My team is 314/382/379.

Is 365/256/226/193 enough for a four man or am I going to need a 5th?

I would say 1000 is probably a good target. That's going to be a little less than 6 innings/game. (6*162 = 972, but we'll have high pitch counts).

Gotcha. May grab another to be on the safe side. Plus, Ojeda scares me.

 

[Kraft...]

We have thread attendance here for a run, don't F this up Gentlemen

 

[Brady Marino]

We have thread attendance here for a run, don't F this up Gentlemen

I hope Eephus didn't fall asleep at his computer again.

 

[Eephus]

We have thread attendance here for a run, don't F this up Gentlemen

I hope Eephus didn't fall asleep at his computer again.

Pick upcoming in 5 min. I'm trying not to screw up this pick.

 

[Eephus]

Steve Ontiveros P The OaklandsIt'll probably mean another worthless expansion team roster spot in the end game but I'm rolling with quality over quantity.

 

[Pumpnick]

Kraft u still have my list? The next 2 are good to go when I'm up.

 

[Greco]

please don't take any more of my targets, kthxbi

 

[RnR]

Steve Ontiveros P The Oaklands

It'll probably mean another worthless expansion team roster spot in the end game but I'm rolling with quality over quantity.

HARRRRRRR approved.

 

[Frostillicus]

please don't take any more of my targets, kthxbi

I thought nobody was taking your targets, and that was the problem?

 

[Koya]

Was eyeing ontiveros which on the bright side allows me to punt the As unless eeph wants to work a trade. Need a few

 

[Eephus]

The Kansas City Athletics had thirteen lousy years.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Tim Raines S 627 530 18 68 50-5 52-90 29.4 .330 .429 .526 B+/B $6,998,290Cecil Cooper L 678 622 25 122 17-6 42-39 24.9 .352 .387 .539 A/A- $7,367,919Freddy Lindstr R 706 641 22 106 15-18 33-48 27.7 .379 .425 .575 B-/B- $7,474,096Fred Lynn L 630 538 39 122 2-2 79-82 13.6 .333 .423 .637 B+/A- $8,379,183Heinie Manush L 734 672 13 108 17-5 14-39 49.1 .378 .414 .575 A/C+ $8,914,313Elston Howard R 482 446 21 77 0-3 65-28 21.2 .348 .387 .549 B+/A $6,420,531Barry Larkin R 527 464 20 69 24-6 64-55 23.2 .302 .378 .506 B+/A $5,952,603Steve Sax R 704 633 6 56 40-17 58-59 105.5 .332 .390 .441 B/B+ $6,902,431Lineup so far

 

[Kraft...]

Kraft u still have my list? The next 2 are good to go when I'm up.

 

[Kraft...]

Bogart x2 makeup

Koya - OTC (Clock up @ xx:35)

oso diablo

Brady Marino

Doctor Detroit

Doug B

Hoos First

pumpnick

the moops

rodg12

SNC

larry_boy_44

Greco

Notorious TRE

Kraft

Chemical X

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Steve Ontiveros P The Oaklands

It'll probably mean another worthless expansion team roster spot in the end game but I'm rolling with quality over quantity.

This is a dangerous dance. Not sure if I'm doing it right and probably won't be until the end.

 

[Kraft...]

We have thread attendance here for a run, don't F this up Gentlemen

Way to F it up fellas <_<

 

[Doug B]

Lineup so far

Pretty airtight defense in the Astrodome.

 

[rodg12]

We have thread attendance here for a run, don't F this up Gentlemen

Way to F it up fellas <_<

I blame Koya...

 

[Koya]

Really wanted Oliveros, but will go with a decent Arm who can also start and a weak franchise:

Tom Murphy, P Palm Springs Angels

 

[oso diablo]

14.11 Cy Williams - OF - Phillies

bio

pic

my favorite part of this draft has been learning more about Cy Williams. Was once the career HR leader in the NL, passing Roger Conner, until surpassed by Rogers Hornsby. Other good stuff in the bio link.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm looking to trade for a different stadium:I have the Vet-2 singles+2 doubles+1 triples0 HRLooking for a more negative HR stadium

 

[Eephus]

Steve Ontiveros P The Oaklands

It'll probably mean another worthless expansion team roster spot in the end game but I'm rolling with quality over quantity.

This is a dangerous dance. Not sure if I'm doing it right and probably won't be until the end.

I'm at 4000 PAs and 1300 IP and we're just past the halfway mark. I figure the guys drafted after round 20 in this format will mostly be roster fodder. We all survived with some wasted spots in the alphabet and dice rolling sims.There was a big dropoff between Ontiveros and the best available expansion team RP. Surprisingly the A's lead with 20 players drafted already. The team is pretty picked over considering they had four very lean decades after Mack broke the great Philadelphia team up.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Bob Gibson R 22-9-0 305 1.12 .184 0.85 7.92 1.83 0.32 268-62 $12,216,556Dean Chance R 20-9-4 279 1.65 .195 1.01 6.69 2.78 0.23 207-86 $11,057,607Chief Bender R 23-5-0 270 1.58 .207 0.92 5.58 1.69 0.04 155-47 $10,515,238Jake Weimer L 20-14-0 326 1.91 .204 1.06 5.19 2.84 0.03 177-97 $11,716,724Hoyt Wilhelm R 7-7-20 144 1.81 .177 0.83 6.63 2.00 0.69 106-32 $5,649,522Willie Hernand L 9-3-32 141 1.92 .194 0.94 7.18 2.31 0.38 112-36 $5,640,418 101-47-56 1,465 1.62 .195 0.95 6.48 2.27 0.23 1025-360 $56,796,065Pitching staff

 

[oso diablo]

14.11 Cy Williams - OF - Phillies

thought his 1924 season looked the best, but then i noticed that his 1923 season has been played over 1300 times in WIS leagues in the past 4+ years.

 

[RnR]

14.11 Cy Williams - OF - Phillies

thought his 1924 season looked the best, but then i noticed that his 1923 season has been played over 1300 times in WIS leagues in the past 4+ years.

That looks like a glitch in the matrix to me.

 

[Kraft...]

Bogart x2 makeup

Brady Marino - OTC (Clock up @ xx:01)

Doctor Detroit

Doug B

Hoos First

pumpnick

the moops

rodg12

SNC

larry_boy_44

Greco

Notorious TRE

Kraft

Chemical X

 

[Eephus]

14.11 Cy Williams - OF - Phillies

thought his 1924 season looked the best, but then i noticed that his 1923 season has been played over 1300 times in WIS leagues in the past 4+ years.

That looks like a glitch in the matrix to me.

High normalized HRs in 1923 season

 

[RnR]

14.11 Cy Williams - OF - Phillies

thought his 1924 season looked the best, but then i noticed that his 1923 season has been played over 1300 times in WIS leagues in the past 4+ years.

That looks like a glitch in the matrix to me.

High normalized HRs in 1923 season

So the 116 HR season is legit?

 

[Eephus]

14.11 Cy Williams - OF - Phillies

thought his 1924 season looked the best, but then i noticed that his 1923 season has been played over 1300 times in WIS leagues in the past 4+ years.

That looks like a glitch in the matrix to me.

High normalized HRs in 1923 season

So the 116 HR season is legit?

+4 HR park Williams' log5 HR/100 rate in 1923 is higher than Sammy Sosa's in either of his 60+ HR seasons.