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*** OFFICIAL Yankees 2008 Thread*** (2 Viewers)
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
lol Wilked, you ####bird. First time at Yankee Stadium tonight with TU, Sammy, and my man Koya and had a blast. I made a scene in my section and the Yankees fans seemed to like it. Met two tools and like 40k good baseball fans. I yelled Red Sux suck several times and the Tigers got the win with my favorite player Bonderman having a great game. Oh, and #### Wilked and the Red Sux.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Cool, good to hear you had a great time...would've been better if the Yanks could've shown up of course. Where'd you guys sit?lol Wilked, you ####bird. First time at Yankee Stadium tonight with TU, Sammy, and my man Koya and had a blast. I made a scene in my section and the Yankees fans seemed to like it. Met two tools and like 40k good baseball fans. I yelled Red Sux suck several times and the Tigers got the win with my favorite player Bonderman having a great game. Oh, and #### Wilked and the Red Sux.
wilked
Footballguy
wow, lot of hate in this man...Glad you had a good time...lol Wilked, you ####bird. First time at Yankee Stadium tonight with TU, Sammy, and my man Koya and had a blast. I made a scene in my section and the Yankees fans seemed to like it. Met two tools and like 40k good baseball fans. I yelled Red Sux suck several times and the Tigers got the win with my favorite player Bonderman having a great game. Oh, and #### Wilked and the Red Sux.
shadyridr
Footballguy
What kind of scene?You mightve been the only one having a blast. Yankee games are getting hard to watch with all the injuries and lack of offense. Im sure things will turn around.lol Wilked, you ####bird. First time at Yankee Stadium tonight with TU, Sammy, and my man Koya and had a blast. I made a scene in my section and the Yankees fans seemed to like it. Met two tools and like 40k good baseball fans. I yelled Red Sux suck several times and the Tigers got the win with my favorite player Bonderman having a great game. Oh, and #### Wilked and the Red Sux.
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Insoxicated
Stay Classy GB..... Yelling Red Sux Suck at a DET vs NYY game? Always nice to know who "that guy" islol Wilked, you ####bird. First time at Yankee Stadium tonight with TU, Sammy, and my man Koya and had a blast. I made a scene in my section and the Yankees fans seemed to like it. Met two tools and like 40k good baseball fans. I yelled Red Sux suck several times and the Tigers got the win with my favorite player Bonderman having a great game. Oh, and #### Wilked and the Red Sux.
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Glad you had a good time, I have found that to be the case in most places (most fans pretty cool)I know you mention being a Bonderman fan, but I have to say the Yankees swung their bats TERRIBLY. Bonderman had very little all game and if the Yankees were even remotely awake it could have gotten ugly. they missed extremely hittable pitches. This was a case of bad hitting. Pettitte pitched OK and Detroit took advantage of the a few mistakes.One item that really ticked me off was when Giambi was up with the bases juiced and hit one to pretty deep LC that was obviously going to get caught. I thought Jeter and Abreu should have tagged and been on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs. Instead Jeter did nothing. After the next single Jeter was almost thrown out at home plate. While it may have only cost them one run, it would have been exacerbated if he would have been thrown out. Either way, mistakes like that can cost you a game.While on Jeter, his throws to 1st base are such an adventure. Gonzalez looked great at 3rd and his throws are so accurate. I think Jeter will need to move to the OF next year at the latest. His defense is weak.Doctor Detroit said:lol Wilked, you ####bird. First time at Yankee Stadium tonight with TU, Sammy, and my man Koya and had a blast. I made a scene in my section and the Yankees fans seemed to like it. Met two tools and like 40k good baseball fans. I yelled Red Sux suck several times and the Tigers got the win with my favorite player Bonderman having a great game. Oh, and #### Wilked and the Red Sux.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Alberto "The Attorney General" Gonzalez is a real solid fielder...
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Agreed. I am very impressed with his quickness and his very accurate and strong arm. Keep in mind he has played 3 infioeld positions and I am pretty sure that he played only SS in teh minors of late.He has got a quick bat, but seems to struggle with the breaking ball. Not sure of how good a hitter he can be, but his defense is good and he has room to grow as a hitter
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Worst case he's a real good utility guy, filling at 2nd short and 3rd without being a complete liability with the bat...Ultimately the haul we got for Randy Johnson was pretty decent:Ohlendorf, Gonzalez, Luis Vizaino and Steven Jackson (still int he minors)...Not bad for a 40+ year old pitcher with horrible back problems and a 10+ million dollar contract
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
[icon] said:Yelling Red Sux Suck at a DET vs NYY game? Always nice to know who "that guy" is
Clifton
Footballguy
When do we get to shut this one down and move 2008 operations to the Official Yankees Rebuilding Thread?
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
How can a team hit so poorly in the clutch. It can't continue.I am tired of watching Cano get up there and swing at a first pitch breaking ball out of the strike zone and wave at it? I mean pick a pitch and sit on it. I can't believe this has not been told to him. I know he is a reactive hitter, but until he gets his groove on take a different approach.When do we get to shut this one down and move 2008 operations to the Official Yankees Rebuilding Thread?
I also would like to know when Jeter will drive a ball?
Moeller is awful behind the plate. he can't block balls and calls a terrible game.
Kennedy must use all of his pitches to be successful and if he can't throw strikes he will not be successful.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
A trade is coming. I get the feeling that we'll see Damon, Matsui or Giambi jettisoned in the next week to 10 days. If they could still do Sanchez for Matsui, I think they do it, bring up Gardner, put Damon on the bench for a month and see what happens and see if a bloodletting and fresh blood shakes the squad up.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Which Sanchez?Matsui is the only guy consistently hitting.I still think that when the weather warms up so will the Yankees.
yankeebrat
Footballguy
I think he should take Hughes' place in the starting rotation. Joe G does not, unfortunately.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I'm still really not worried. The Yankees can't really play any worse then they are for another long stretch, and I still think the injuries will ease up and they will get the full team back - and no one in the East is going anywhere here.
I'll start to worry on June 1 if they are 10 or more out of the potential Wild Card spot. Other then that, it's going to get warmer, the schedule is going to get a little better, and other teams will have their mediocre pitchers try to quiet this lineup.
Right now, I would like the offense to get going (who wouldn't), Hughes to heal and rehab and remember his stuff, Kennedy to be more aggressive, and Moose to keep pitching like he did the last time. Posada is a concern, of course, but other then that, I'm still pretty optimistic with this team.
I'll start to worry on June 1 if they are 10 or more out of the potential Wild Card spot. Other then that, it's going to get warmer, the schedule is going to get a little better, and other teams will have their mediocre pitchers try to quiet this lineup.
Right now, I would like the offense to get going (who wouldn't), Hughes to heal and rehab and remember his stuff, Kennedy to be more aggressive, and Moose to keep pitching like he did the last time. Posada is a concern, of course, but other then that, I'm still pretty optimistic with this team.
shadyridr
Footballguy
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Jonathan Sanchez on San Fran. He's starting out there, could work out of the pen.Liquid Tension said:
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
I think any Yankees fans who aren't worried are delusional...
The mere fact that they defied the odds last year to sneak in as the Wild Card has little bearing on this season, IMO...
This is a deeply flawed team right now, and those flaws are exacerbated by injuries to perhaps their two most indispensable offensive players Posada and Rodriguez.
Last season their offense really carried them, as they led the AL in runs per game at around 6. Their combined offensive line of .290/.366/.463 also led the league in all three categories. This helped to mask a lot of their pitching issues, as they flat out outslugged other squads.
This year? Not so much.
Right now they sit at 4.3 runs/game and a line of .255/.327/.408, which rank 10th, 10th and 6th respectively in the AL. They were 3rd in the league in walks last year. So far this year they're 9th. And Posada is going to miss at least half the season, and maybe more. Even ARod doesn't know how soon he's going to heal from his injury. Going from Posada and Rodriguez to Molina and Ensberg is a brutal hit to their offense.
And it's easy to say, "it's early, the bats will heat up," but it's not that early anymore, and where is the "heat" going to come from? Cano can't help but hit better, that's true, and Abreu will likely get his OBP up a bit, and Jeter has nowhere to go but up (as he's now the league's first $20 million Punch and Judy hitter), but without Posada and Rodriguez, I don't see a whole lot more offensive upside out there...
With the pitching staff, Wang cannot do more than he is right now, and Pettitte and Mussina are both .500 pitchers right now...I think Pettitte will end up a bit better than that, but not by much, and I wouldn't be shocked to see Mussina finish below .500. The 2 other spots? Who the #### knows? Hughes is out for a month or two at best, and Kennedy hasn't even won a game yet this season.
Our bullpen? Probably the best 8-9 inning combo in the league, but that does you no good when you only have a close lead late in a quarter of your games. The rest of the bullpen is borderline awful, especially with Bruney injured. LaTroy Hawkins? Jonathan Albaladejo? Ross Ohlendorf? Oh, and for everyone touting good old Ross, he has a 5.40 ERA!
I hope I'm wrong, but I really think this is the year the playoff streak ends.
The mere fact that they defied the odds last year to sneak in as the Wild Card has little bearing on this season, IMO...
This is a deeply flawed team right now, and those flaws are exacerbated by injuries to perhaps their two most indispensable offensive players Posada and Rodriguez.
Last season their offense really carried them, as they led the AL in runs per game at around 6. Their combined offensive line of .290/.366/.463 also led the league in all three categories. This helped to mask a lot of their pitching issues, as they flat out outslugged other squads.
This year? Not so much.
Right now they sit at 4.3 runs/game and a line of .255/.327/.408, which rank 10th, 10th and 6th respectively in the AL. They were 3rd in the league in walks last year. So far this year they're 9th. And Posada is going to miss at least half the season, and maybe more. Even ARod doesn't know how soon he's going to heal from his injury. Going from Posada and Rodriguez to Molina and Ensberg is a brutal hit to their offense.
And it's easy to say, "it's early, the bats will heat up," but it's not that early anymore, and where is the "heat" going to come from? Cano can't help but hit better, that's true, and Abreu will likely get his OBP up a bit, and Jeter has nowhere to go but up (as he's now the league's first $20 million Punch and Judy hitter), but without Posada and Rodriguez, I don't see a whole lot more offensive upside out there...
With the pitching staff, Wang cannot do more than he is right now, and Pettitte and Mussina are both .500 pitchers right now...I think Pettitte will end up a bit better than that, but not by much, and I wouldn't be shocked to see Mussina finish below .500. The 2 other spots? Who the #### knows? Hughes is out for a month or two at best, and Kennedy hasn't even won a game yet this season.
Our bullpen? Probably the best 8-9 inning combo in the league, but that does you no good when you only have a close lead late in a quarter of your games. The rest of the bullpen is borderline awful, especially with Bruney injured. LaTroy Hawkins? Jonathan Albaladejo? Ross Ohlendorf? Oh, and for everyone touting good old Ross, he has a 5.40 ERA!
I hope I'm wrong, but I really think this is the year the playoff streak ends.
shadyridr
Footballguy
I cant win. Last year I gave up in June and now this year Im delusional.
Last year they also had some long rough stretches with little to no offense. Remember that road trip to COL, SF, & BAL? But by the end of the year their offense ranked #1. I expect a similar result this yr (maybe not #1 but top 3 IMO).
Joba will be in the rotation sooner than later IMO. And he should be better than Kennedy & Hughes.
Thats because hes erroneously being used as a long man when IMO he has the stuff to be a dominant set up guy.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
But who do you root for? Normally I'd say The Rays....but Capella is a ####. He doesn't compare to the sausagefest in Boston though. The Orioles are pretenders. I guess I could go with the Blue Jays.....but they are Canadian.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Oh, I am a huge Yankee fan, so of course I am going to root for them regardless...
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The bottom line is that the team as a whole is underperforming. Because of that there is a lot of upside. Posada being out is a HUGE blow because they go from a strength to a liability (overall). The same is true with ARod, but I expect ARod back in a week. BTW, Ensberg should be doing a better job and that has been disappointing.Yesterday we saw a couple of good signs. Molina's hit the ball to the right side AND got a cheap hit (he needs to look right field first). Further, Molina walked for the FIRST time this year. That is pretty ####ing sad. Also, Jeter drove the ball to the right side (and side) for the first time in awhile as well. Cano's swing is actually getting better and if he could swing at strikes he will start to break out. While his swing seems better to me, he is still not picking up pitches well at all (way out in front at times and swinging at bad pitches).BTW, Jeter's throws to 1st are an adventure.The pitching overall will not get worse, although one would expect Rivera to not be as strong moving forward. Mussina pitched Excellent yesterday and while he will not dominate, if he can spot the ball with accuracy and change speeds he can be effective. 3 runs in 6 innings would be great and I would love that 4.50 ERA from him and I think he can do it. He will have a few bad games though.The 4 and 5 spots CAN'T get any worse and I expect them to get better. Wang will not stay perfect, but his ERA should't be too much higher. Pettitte shouldn't get worse either.The first sentence stands for me and I think the Yankees make the playoffs again as long as the injuries don't continue.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
sub .500 
shadyridr
Footballguy
sub .500
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Anyone who would post in somebody else's forum and wants to mock them is obviously not the smartest person. The standings show the Yankees one game above .500.That being said, the weather warmed up today and the Yankees hit the ball. Like I said the other day, when the weather warms up they will hit better.Rasner, didn't pitch all that well, but he didn;t give away bases with walks and Seattle's offense is one of the weaker ones.Jeter had an excellent day!Melky getting it done .864 OPS, Damon and Matsui the same with .921 and .902 respectively.Cano and Ensberg have been the biggest disappointments at .471 and .517 respectively.Get healthy and let the weather be warm...The Yanks are fine.sub .500
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Good weekend. Mike and the Angry Puppy are dealing with some interesting calls today. I don't get it. Did anyone expect another 125 win season?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
OMG OMG OMG - they didn't win on Monday. The sky is falling! Hank is going to sign the frozen heads of Gehrig Ruth and Munson and force Joe to put them in the game! The new stadium is falling down. Dogs and cats living together!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Man, this is shaping up to be a LONG year.
The only thing I have left to hope for in this baseball season is Boston not winning the World Series.
wilked
Footballguy
wow, just read that Joba was crying on the bench.
Internet sleuths, someone needs to link a photo
Just for the heck of it
http://jkmckenna.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/joba-bugs.jpg
Internet sleuths, someone needs to link a photo
Just for the heck of it
http://jkmckenna.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/joba-bugs.jpg
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He's allowed to cry for one night. Buckner has been crying for over 20 years.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Ok, so he isn't a God. Pitchers give up runs. Move on.
And not for nothing, but it wasn't a bad pitch. He got beat.
And not for nothing, but it wasn't a bad pitch. He got beat.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
The walks were the problem, not the HR.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Ian Kennedy threw a 1 hitter thru 7.1 innings last night in AAA walking 0. I think he'll be fine once he gets called back up. For some reason he was scared to throw strikes. Once he works through those original nerves he'll be a solid ML pitcher. He's got the stuff to be so IMO.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Exactly!Also, Delucci is a dead fastball hitter so the selection wasn't great. The short porch hurt us, but the lack of offense was the key again.shadyridr said:
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
It is a big jump though and the the zone in the minors seems a little larger than most of the SZ in the majors. His stuff is decent, but not great...but he has plenty to be OK.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
And if he gets a pop up with Delucci the walks don't matter.Obviously the walks hurt, but the "surprise" of the game was the HR. And he was 2 strikes away from having another Joba 8th.I'm not worried.shadyridr said:
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The walks are more avoidable and within your control.The offense was anemic again. Wang had awful control but hung in there with some fantastic defense from Molina. Had some good throws and the DP was amazingly hard to get the throw off so fast and make a strike; incredibly hard play for a catcher.Can someone please tell Melky Cabrera to stop taking SIX STEPS before attempting to throw a guy out. If he would have just charged and got rid of the ball quickly he would have thrown the guy out. What the heck is he thinking? If you have that TiVo'd take a look at it, it is absurd.BTW, I usually don;t hear much from the announcers normally, but they were talking about how great Lee's WHIP is and Coney said that the scouts look for someone under a 1.5 and repeated a bunch of times how that is the magic number they are impressed with??? Somebody better teach Coney a little bit more as a 1.5 is not good at all.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Yep that was ridiculous. I dont remember him doing that last year.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
So what's with the guy banging the two lead pipes together?
That's not annoying at all.
That's not annoying at all.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I have to ask. What would the Yanks record be right now with Torre at the helm? Any different?
shadyridr
Footballguy
They started out worse last year.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'm far less optimistic about another bounce back like the one last season.
Torre always had a calming effect on a team. It remains to be seen if Girardi can be the same way.
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=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Fixedand curious to hear Yankee replies. 2 wins? 3 wins?
