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**Official YANKEES 2009 Thread** (2 Viewers)

jobarules said:
27% of their home wins have been walkoff wins. Thats crazy. Has that ever been done before?
That is crazy. It was cool when they put up the list of walkoff wins yesterday and I realized I've seen 4 of them.5/1 Posada single5/17 Damon HR6/12 A-Rod/Castillo Error8/28 Cano HR :unsure:
 
Props to the Rays for showing Jeter respect tonight by clapping for him

Classy thing to do

:lmao:

Shows how much respect he has around the league

Likely the most respected player in baseball by his peers

 
congratsI also am very nervous about facing Verlander & Jackson in the first round. But to say they dont feel like a WS contendor is ridiculous. They have the best record in baseball by at least 5 games.
:thumbup: Yes CONGRATS Cobalt..... Cobalt Wins Coooooobalt Wins... Say's Sterling in classic fashion.That said, Once the playoffs start anything can happen - There's not much the Yankees could have done more to make facing Verlander and Jackson 1-2 an easier task. I'd like to see a Cobalt recap of Yankee management blunders this year.You may be the only baseball fan on earth that would say the team with the best record in baseball doesn't seem like a "contender". Even A.J. - I'm still in favor of that move - For as up and down as he's been - When it comes to playoff time, I think you need his kind of stuff and I think he'll rise to that occasion... I could certainly see Pettite in Game 2 though and A.J. in game 3.But, enjoy marriage - Everyone is doing it. :towelwave:
Can't argue with much now, huh? :towelwave: 20/20, most everything looks spot on. Hughes is prolly the best MR in the game, which is much more valuable than Santana d-u-n for the season. Burnett's inconsistent, but...I'll take his bad w/the good. Swisher's been inconsistent, but same thing as Burnett (and he's been better than I expected). Andy's been phenomenal...CC & Teix, of course, awesome...I mean what's to complain about? I made a bad read on this team. God, I hope this doesn't all flame out in the ALDS or CS.
 
Props to the Rays for showing Jeter respect tonight by clapping for himClassy thing to do:thumbup:Shows how much respect he has around the leagueLikely the most respected player in baseball by his peers
If you read Jeet's lips when he got on first you can see him say to Richard, "I owe ya one".Thought that was pretty cool.
 
This Joba / Hughes thing continues to bug me and what they are doing now makes no sense to me at all. Yet, I hate to act like a naysayer because in the end for all the warts that I saw 3 months ago they've hit the groove and just look awesome right now. Still, this Joba thing is a problem to me - a big problem.

And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.

Other than this stuff, though, in the end there really isn't anything to complain about. Time to start getting guys healthy rested and ready, figure out the playoff scenario most benefitting the starting rotation, decide who starts game two (I think Andy but I'm biased for the old guys) and then start October.

 
And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.
:shrug: Annoying? Stupid?? a Joke???? Really???? Sheesh... I didn't even know it was a big enough deal to be #####in that it was too big a deal...It was a milestone - it was fun as a Yankee fan and that's that...I guess Francessa has to whine about something.Whatever.
 
And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.
:lmao: Annoying? Stupid?? a Joke???? Really???? Sheesh... I didn't even know it was a big enough deal to be #####in that it was too big a deal...It was a milestone - it was fun as a Yankee fan and that's that...I guess Francessa has to whine about something.Whatever.
:) A little surprised to hear Yankee's take on the Jeter stuff. I'm enjoying it, as are most Yankee fans. Even Jeter, normally very mellow about such stuff, acknowledged getting goose bumps last night when he got the tying hit and the ovation he received. He also said it was his favorite moment at the new stadium so far.
 
And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.
:) Annoying? Stupid?? a Joke???? Really???? Sheesh... I didn't even know it was a big enough deal to be #####in that it was too big a deal...It was a milestone - it was fun as a Yankee fan and that's that...I guess Francessa has to whine about something.Whatever.
:no: A little surprised to hear Yankee's take on the Jeter stuff. I'm enjoying it, as are most Yankee fans. Even Jeter, normally very mellow about such stuff, acknowledged getting goose bumps last night when he got the tying hit and the ovation he received. He also said it was his favorite moment at the new stadium so far.
I just don't get it from a national point of view. That's all.
 
And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.
:mellow: Annoying? Stupid?? a Joke???? Really???? Sheesh... I didn't even know it was a big enough deal to be #####in that it was too big a deal...It was a milestone - it was fun as a Yankee fan and that's that...I guess Francessa has to whine about something.Whatever.
<_< A little surprised to hear Yankee's take on the Jeter stuff. I'm enjoying it, as are most Yankee fans. Even Jeter, normally very mellow about such stuff, acknowledged getting goose bumps last night when he got the tying hit and the ovation he received. He also said it was his favorite moment at the new stadium so far.
I just don't get it from a national point of view. That's all.
who cares about the nation point of view?Enjoy it, this is Yankees history
 
And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.
:hifive: Annoying? Stupid?? a Joke???? Really???? Sheesh... I didn't even know it was a big enough deal to be #####in that it was too big a deal...It was a milestone - it was fun as a Yankee fan and that's that...I guess Francessa has to whine about something.Whatever.
:goodposting: A little surprised to hear Yankee's take on the Jeter stuff. I'm enjoying it, as are most Yankee fans. Even Jeter, normally very mellow about such stuff, acknowledged getting goose bumps last night when he got the tying hit and the ovation he received. He also said it was his favorite moment at the new stadium so far.
I just don't get it from a national point of view. That's all.
Is it really getting that much press nationally?
 
And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.
:unsure: Annoying? Stupid?? a Joke???? Really???? Sheesh... I didn't even know it was a big enough deal to be #####in that it was too big a deal...It was a milestone - it was fun as a Yankee fan and that's that...I guess Francessa has to whine about something.Whatever.
:towelwave: A little surprised to hear Yankee's take on the Jeter stuff. I'm enjoying it, as are most Yankee fans. Even Jeter, normally very mellow about such stuff, acknowledged getting goose bumps last night when he got the tying hit and the ovation he received. He also said it was his favorite moment at the new stadium so far.
I just don't get it from a national point of view. That's all.
Is it really getting that much press nationally?
Yeah I don't know how much press it gets nationally because I don't watch ESPN if I can avoid it, and the MLB Network is devoting coverage to it because it is a significant baseball story. It's not like the career hits leader for the Rockies or someone. And that's not meant as a slight at the Rockies or saying the Yanks are somehow more important...just that they've had some of the most significant names in baseball history wear the uniform, and to be at or past those names is a big milestone that should be celebrated.And yes, Gehrig would've had many many more hits without ALS. Also probably would've reached 600 HR and would've been far and beyond everyone on the all-time RBI list. But I don't think that takes anything away from Jeter. Ted Williams would've had more hits except he walked a ton. And Ruth would've had more hits as a Yankee if he didn't play for two other teams. I just think it's a cool thing to see the list of all-time Yankee leaders and see Jeter's name alongside Gehrig, Ruth, Mantle. Talk about some great company!
 
Congrats to the captain. Pretty cool moment to have the team come out and congratulate him like that. We stayed through the 7th inning rain delay and to the last out. My brother and I tried to start a "Steve-Bal-Bo-Ni!" chant but the other 12 people still at the stadium didn't feel like joining in. Did anybody hear us?

:jawdrop:

 
Not much posting here, I guess we should just be enjoying this ride as the Yanks are almost a lock to break 100 wins and have been winning at a great .750 clip in the 2nd half of the year.
Not much to talk about. Yanks are playing great. Now it all rides on their postseason.
*Cashman was criticized by some for not going out and getting Washburn to help the team. I was in favor of sticking with what we had and so were some of you. Washburn is 1-2 with a 6.81 ERA in six starts for the Tigers. He has allowed 11 homers in 37 innings. They also wanted our supposed CF of the future in Austin Jackson. Like I have been saying, spending a decent amount on mediocrity is not what the Yankees should do. Get specialists, get stars and surround them with your own young talent.
Id still take Washburn over Mitre or Gaudin. God forbid there is an injury to CC, AJ, or Pettitte then well have one of them pitching in the postseason. Obviously I wouldnt have traded Jackson for him.
Enjoy this team, it seems if people can't complain they don't show up! I feel like I should go back and get some of the crazy quotes on this board
Whatever happened to cobalt?
He moved, got married, honeymooned, and started a new job.Yanks are doing awesome. :goodposting: Not anything I expected. I remain skeptical. Can't explain it. No data to support it. Just doen't feel like a WS contender. Hope I'm wrong.
Congratulations!!!As for the Yanks, well I guess it will be a failure if they don't win the WS, but the truth is you have to get there and hope for the best.
 
Starting Pitchers: A+
:lmao: My sides...
40 games over .500. :goodposting:
201 million dollar payroll :coffee:
DD, you should know better than that. While there is no question it is an advantage, the Yanks also have to pay more than other places because of the tax rates and cost of living. Based on just that their payroll should be at least 50% higher. the Yanks advantage comes in because their payroll is 100% higher than many teams. You realize that the cost of a house in Detroit is about 1/5th of the cost of one in northern NJ and you can't buy houses in NYC. A $200,000 home in the Detroit area is about 1 mil in northeast NJ. The players also get taxed where they work, which means they have an 8% tax on their income.It is too easy just to throw out the higher payroll.

 
This Joba / Hughes thing continues to bug me and what they are doing now makes no sense to me at all. Yet, I hate to act like a naysayer because in the end for all the warts that I saw 3 months ago they've hit the groove and just look awesome right now. Still, this Joba thing is a problem to me - a big problem.

And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.

Other than this stuff, though, in the end there really isn't anything to complain about. Time to start getting guys healthy rested and ready, figure out the playoff scenario most benefitting the starting rotation, decide who starts game two (I think Andy but I'm biased for the old guys) and then start October.
A lot of people were talking about Jeter playing more games and having more AB's.At this point Jeter has played 2121 (2164) games and had 9734 (9660) Plate appearances and 2724 (2721) hits to Gehrig's (in parenthesis).

OPS Jeter .846 Gehrig 1.080

Gehrig did not have to deal with the specialization now devoted to getting players out. Jeter played SS

 
This Joba / Hughes thing continues to bug me and what they are doing now makes no sense to me at all. Yet, I hate to act like a naysayer because in the end for all the warts that I saw 3 months ago they've hit the groove and just look awesome right now. Still, this Joba thing is a problem to me - a big problem.

And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.

Other than this stuff, though, in the end there really isn't anything to complain about. Time to start getting guys healthy rested and ready, figure out the playoff scenario most benefitting the starting rotation, decide who starts game two (I think Andy but I'm biased for the old guys) and then start October.
A lot of people were talking about Jeter playing more games and having more AB's.At this point Jeter has played 2121 (2164) games and had 9734 (9660) Plate appearances and 2724 (2721) hits to Gehrig's (in parenthesis).

OPS Jeter .846 Gehrig 1.080

Gehrig did not have to deal with the specialization now devoted to getting players out. Jeter played SS
Looking at Gehrig's numbers it is pretty amazing that his last full season he was only 34 and his numbers were dropping that year due to illness. If he stayed healthy the numbers he would have ended up with are pretty mind-boggling.
 
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This Joba / Hughes thing continues to bug me and what they are doing now makes no sense to me at all. Yet, I hate to act like a naysayer because in the end for all the warts that I saw 3 months ago they've hit the groove and just look awesome right now. Still, this Joba thing is a problem to me - a big problem.

And I've been thinking this for a week or so and I hate to write it after Francesca says it on the radio, but he's right - this Jeter stuff is a little annoying to the point of being stupid. He's getting more hits then Gehrig, ok cool. But he's is going to have more at bats, longer seasons, and doesn't have to deal with a life destroying illness during his career. I mean, in a pure numbers sense, given how he played the first 10 years, did we expect him to not get this far on that list? The impressive number will be 3,000. As a Yankee fan, this current thing is a little fun because it's like an internal family thing - the national story it is is a joke. To me.

Other than this stuff, though, in the end there really isn't anything to complain about. Time to start getting guys healthy rested and ready, figure out the playoff scenario most benefitting the starting rotation, decide who starts game two (I think Andy but I'm biased for the old guys) and then start October.
A lot of people were talking about Jeter playing more games and having more AB's.At this point Jeter has played 2121 (2164) games and had 9734 (9660) Plate appearances and 2724 (2721) hits to Gehrig's (in parenthesis).

OPS Jeter .846 Gehrig 1.080

Gehrig did not have to deal with the specialization now devoted to getting players out. Jeter played SS
Looking at Gehrig's numbers it is pretty amazing that his last full season he was only 34 and his numbers were dropping that year to do illness. If he stayed healthy the numbers he would have ended up with are pretty mind-boggling.
It is pretty amazing and sad at the same time. Such a great athlete...
 
It's gonna be hilarious to see the backpedaling in here when this team wins its 95th game.

All I heard back in 2007 was that A-Rod CARRIED the team to the postseason; some people went so far as to say he was the only reason they made the playoffs. Now, he's coming back...and suddenly it means nothing.

Teixeira is going to finish up right around .290, but is barely treading above .200 right now.

CC is going to win 18-20 games, and you can count on one finger how many he's got so far.

And if you think this pen is going to carry a 6+ ERA for the season, I respectfully disagree.

It's an awful stretch, no doubt. But some of you guys act like there won't be good stretches to balance it out. It's not like anybody is running away with the division (sorry Toronto fans, I just feel this is Orioles 2005 redux).

Remember -- marathon, not a sprint.
Couple days late, but...bump.ETA: They were 14-15 at the time of the original post.

 
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Congrats on tying up the series against Boston and winning the division.

Looks like this will have to be settled in the post season.

:lmao:

 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
I liked this one
 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:goodposting: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:D at the haters.
Why am I a hater because I don't think it's a good team?I dislike the Red Sox, but I think they're a very good team. Trust me, I hate the Florida Gators waaaaaaaaay more than the Yankees, and I don't only think, but I know they're loaded and likely to win the BCS again this year.

I just think this year's Yanks are very poorly put together. I said this weeks ago. Posada, Jeter, Cano and the entire outfield are all average to below-average regulars at this point.
OOF
 
APRIL

Neither of the staffs will be as good as the Rays'. You (not just you, everybody...even me before last year) continues to underrate Sonnanstine. That's fine though. I'll put him up against any #4 in the league.
I won't speak for Saxophone Sam, but the think the gist of the idea is that C.C. will see a marked regression in his move to the Yankees.Love watching the O's expose this fraud of a team.
Here's a little breakdown:This team blows ###.
Heartbreaking letting a couple of big leads like that disintegrate. Might be time to bump the "rebuilding" thread.
Will the Yanks ever realize their recipe does not work?
 
MAY

Bengie Molina is completely useless.

Like most of this team.
I'm not sure when people are going to figure out this group of Yankees is simply not a very good team. They have no heart and marginal talent across the board. We'll get our fraud back in a week or two, and it will still be a pile of poo.

Girardi's not pushing the right buttons, but let's not act like this team could be managed much better. He's only got the players dealt to him. The outfield and bullpen are dreadful.

This team is a joke.

It's not that they're playing ####ty. It's. That. They're. Not. A. Good. Team. I said this during the preseason, and today should be no surprise to any Yankee fan with his eyes even just partially open.

My distinction is between what you "think" and what you feel. You're a big feeling guy, which is fine and all, but makes for irrational assessments. Unlike you, I can divorce myself from what I want to happen from what should happen. This team, as currently constructed, has absolutely no business winning more than 90 games, let alone earning a playoff birth in the playoffs from a division whose two best teams are organized with far greater superiority than we are.

I wish you would root for another team. You support the kind of nonsense that perpetuates this team sustaining this level of ridiculous mediocrity.
of course the team will be better with aroid. the yankees will right the ship, as much as they can, & finish the season with 85+ wins, but won't make the playoffs. for any other team, this would be a pretty good accomplishment. not for the yankees though. hence my laughter.

p.s. the sox have the best record in the AL. :banned:

as i said at the beginning of the year, i think tex will struggle in the NY spotlight. just a hunch. he's had the excuse of not having aroid in the lineup to protect him, let's see what happens now.
When do they show Girardi the door? This team stinks.

Raider Nation, your team stinks and is an embarrassment to NYC. This has nothing to do with trolling. Its the facts. 80 million more than the Sox spend and they can't even play .500 ball. How do you defend them? When the teams I root for stink, they stink. You won't hear me defending them. Let's call a spade a spade.

Biggest letdown in the history of professional sports history. This team right here.
So I have to ask. The Red Sox are 5 or 6 games up on the Yanks and have had Dice-K, Pedroia, and Youk out with a minor leaguer having to play shortstop. They've been playing guys named Green, Bailey, and Van Every. Big Papi has been INVISIBLE. Lester, Beckett, and Penny have ERAs in the sixes.

You don't think think that they won't do any better heading forward? They also have Smoltz, Buchholz, and Bowden waiting in the wings and a number of guys in AAA in the bullpen with low ERAs and WHIPs. And the Yankees are the ones that will win 115 games?
 
JUNE

Right now the Sox aren't just in the Yankee's heads... theyre skull####ing them.
I have nothhing against Hughes and think he may evolve into a decent pitcher. That being said . . . DOMINANT? This year?He's had a 6.21 ERA and 1.56 WHIP since May 4th.
Then the Yanks moved into first and everyone went away for the next 3 months...Anyway I'm sure all of this will get bumped if they're knocked out of the playoffs at any point, but that would be pointless since I'm not guaranteeing any sort of playoff success. I've seen too many good teams bumped out in the crapshoot that is the ALDS to expect a win in a short series ever again. No, this series of bumps is just to show how ridiculous some people were being very early (like, first week of April early) in the season. Marathon...not a sprint.Meanwhile...
I've complained as much as anyone that these guys failed to get a bullpen over the last few years, but you can't blame the front office for this season. After the performances of Veras, Coke and Bruney last year, the assumed return to form of Marte, and the presence of Mo, I don't think many people expected the pen to pitch this poorly.And that said, all relievers are going to go through rough stretches. It's entirely possible that theirs are all coming at one time and that they'll be fine over the long haul. It amazes me how many people on this board think a baseball season lasts two weeks. Is the bullpen a concern? Sure. But if they had a 0.00 ERA to this point, that doesn't meant they'd keep THAT up either.A significant regression to the mean is in order here, unless of course you honestly feel the Yankees team ERA will stand at 6.41 for the season. :banned:Another thing...The Yankees have the worst ERA in baseball right now and haven't had A-Rod in the lineup for a single game. Their bullpen has been a mess, and they've just suffered two crushing losses to their archrivals. Their projected #3 starter, a guy counted on for 30+ starts and 16-18 wins, has been put on the DL because he's been the worst pitcher in all of baseball. Their starting RF hasn't played in a week and was feared out for the season, and even if he does come back he could still be hurt. Their prized FA signing has a 12/14 strikeout to walk ratio, and their other big-ticket FA has missed time and is hitting .235.And they're still 9-8, on pace for 86 wins. Honestly, if you'd have told me all of the above I would expect them to have been a whole hell of a lot further out than 3 measly games. These guys have been a complete and utter mess to this point, and are still above .500. This team is going to go on a looooong run at some point.
The Ghost of Common said:
holy crap Brown. You really are a tad nuts? Any time a Yankee fan has questioned something the team is done you have to hit them with that smarmy condescencion of yours. Is there anyone who has posted in this thread who hasn't been on the receiving end of one of your smug "never question the Yankees" posts?
You picked up smarmy condescension from a two line post? I was just being honest. That was about as extreme a post as Yankee23 has ever posted on here. They went through a rough patch, I don't see it as much more than that. The teams of 96-00 also went through rough patches. The 2000 team lost 15 of 18 to close the season and everyone had them dead and buried in the first round that year, so I just think people tend to overreact to each week on its own.When they passed Boston for first place on June 1st, I didn't act like they had reached the pinnacle of success. It was more a statement of "everyone had them dead and buried in April, yet here they are in first place". It was more to contradict the chicken littles rather than to say LOOK HOW GREAT THEY ARE! Obviously if you are in first place at any point after May, you are at least somewhat competing. And obviously I'm not expecting anyone to remember all of the posts I've made through the years, but if you were to go back and look at past seasons Yankee regular season and playoff threads I've been plenty critical. Of just about everyone. I haven't been critical this season because they've got one of the best records in baseball yet they haven't been operating at full strength for much of the time.
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