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skillz
Footballguy
No kidding. That bottom of the 9th was one big cocktease.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I thought that was a hit...No kidding. That bottom of the 9th was one big cocktease.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
My god does Ryan Raburn suck
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
and Max is a mental midget. The moment he has to pitch out of the stretch he just crumbles.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
That he does..as does our new RP pitcher Rico Suave.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
igbomb
Footballguy
After last night's debacle, I've now been to five Tigers games this year, and aside from the home opener they have been less than impressive.
Home opener: W 5-2
Other four games I've attended: 0-4, outscored 7-45
One thing from last night that made me want to punch someone in the face:
During the rain delay, while it was friggin pouring out, we were all packed in like sardines on the concourse. Suddenly, some guy starts freaking out that he lost his daughter. Next thing I know, one of the vendors jumps up on his beer counter and starts shouting for everyone to quiet down. He then announces that a four year old in an orange Tigers dress is missing. The word starts to spread down the crowd and everyone starts looking for this girl and shouting to pass it along. No one can move so we just kept standing up on our tiptoes to try to see some signal that she's been found. My wife managed to force her way through to Guest Services for them to put out the call for a little girl. This search went on for twenty minutes. The dad raced by in a panic a couple of times as someone would throw up a hand or hat, hoping that they had found her. This whole time the beer vendor has shut down sales while he is standing on his counter shouting about the girl every couple of minutes.
After twenty minutes, my buddy and I glance over and happen to see the dad back by his wife, laughing and joking. We start yelling at him, asking if they found her. And then the ##### just laughs and says, "Yeah, we found her. Ha ha ha!" He didn't even bother to tell the beer vendor, let alone thank the guy. He was still standing up on his counter, yelling for people to keep looking, while this ###bag is laughing and drinking with his friends. Ungrateful SOB.
So to the girl's dad: You suck.
To the girl: I'm glad you're ok, but sorry bout your dad, he sucks.
And to the beer vendor: You're a good man.
Home opener: W 5-2
Other four games I've attended: 0-4, outscored 7-45
One thing from last night that made me want to punch someone in the face:
During the rain delay, while it was friggin pouring out, we were all packed in like sardines on the concourse. Suddenly, some guy starts freaking out that he lost his daughter. Next thing I know, one of the vendors jumps up on his beer counter and starts shouting for everyone to quiet down. He then announces that a four year old in an orange Tigers dress is missing. The word starts to spread down the crowd and everyone starts looking for this girl and shouting to pass it along. No one can move so we just kept standing up on our tiptoes to try to see some signal that she's been found. My wife managed to force her way through to Guest Services for them to put out the call for a little girl. This search went on for twenty minutes. The dad raced by in a panic a couple of times as someone would throw up a hand or hat, hoping that they had found her. This whole time the beer vendor has shut down sales while he is standing on his counter shouting about the girl every couple of minutes.
After twenty minutes, my buddy and I glance over and happen to see the dad back by his wife, laughing and joking. We start yelling at him, asking if they found her. And then the ##### just laughs and says, "Yeah, we found her. Ha ha ha!" He didn't even bother to tell the beer vendor, let alone thank the guy. He was still standing up on his counter, yelling for people to keep looking, while this ###bag is laughing and drinking with his friends. Ungrateful SOB.
So to the girl's dad: You suck.
To the girl: I'm glad you're ok, but sorry bout your dad, he sucks.
And to the beer vendor: You're a good man.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Sat in the third row behind the Tiger dugout today. Great catch by Raburn that saved the game. 
It was nice to see all the players waiting for him to come in from the field.
I know he stinks but I was really happy for him to make that great play.
It was nice to see all the players waiting for him to come in from the field.I know he stinks but I was really happy for him to make that great play.
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Doctor Detroit
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So they fire Knapp after a bad run but they've kept Lloyd on through years of struggle at the plate? Ok, that makes sense. 
ETA: Firing Knapp could be the right call but he was never Leyland's guy so that makes me wonder. Tigers were top 4 in starting pitching cats up to interleague play but obviously so much rests with Porcello and Scherzer that a change now might be the right move. I'm just surprised they kept McClendon through all the struggles and were quick to can Knapp. When fans are talking about giving up on Porcello that is a bad sign, Porcello is the one guy you don't want to give up on but he's regressed since that playoff game in Minnesota.
ETA: Firing Knapp could be the right call but he was never Leyland's guy so that makes me wonder. Tigers were top 4 in starting pitching cats up to interleague play but obviously so much rests with Porcello and Scherzer that a change now might be the right move. I'm just surprised they kept McClendon through all the struggles and were quick to can Knapp. When fans are talking about giving up on Porcello that is a bad sign, Porcello is the one guy you don't want to give up on but he's regressed since that playoff game in Minnesota.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Porcello was all over the place yesyerday, very surprised he lasted as long as he did. Not only hitting guys but bouncing the ball in front of the plate as well. Did not look comfortable at all.One thing I noticed sitting that close is that Papa Grande looks in horrible shape! When he ran in from the bullpen he was gassed and breathing hard. The guy needs to drop some LBs.So they fire Knapp after a bad run but they've kept Lloyd on through years of struggle at the plate? Ok, that makes sense.
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Doctor Detroit
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Porcello was wild because they had him open up his delivery. So with that came better bite on his pitches, strikeouts and the wild pitches. This was them going away from Knapp coaching techniques to see what happened.Porcello was all over the place yesyerday, very surprised he lasted as long as he did. Not only hitting guys but bouncing the ball in front of the plate as well. Did not look comfortable at all.One thing I noticed sitting that close is that Papa Grande looks in horrible shape! When he ran in from the bullpen he was gassed and breathing hard. The guy needs to drop some LBs.So they fire Knapp after a bad run but they've kept Lloyd on through years of struggle at the plate? Ok, that makes sense.
skillz
Footballguy
Is he even going to be able to pitch more than 5 or 6 innings at this point even if he does well. He's been in the pen for so long that I assume his arm isn't stretched out enough yet to go longer than that. It would be ironic to see him pitch well only to see Coke still screw the game up and lose by blowing a lead late.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I want DD gone too now to go along with Leyland. Leyland will cut of his nose to spite his face in the second half (again) and his tyrannical, idiotic reign will end. Firing Knapp is the last straw for me with DD. Honestly #### him. Ya he pulled the Miggy trade and a lot of other solid moves but his intense loyalty to Leyland and the Jair Jurrgens (and now Granderson) deals loom over his head.
Doctor Detroit
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You know what we need?
Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him.
I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1.
Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him.
I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1.
Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
No chance that Charlie FURBUSH got his balls busted growing up.
Doctor Detroit
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Good effort by Furbush, real bad luck with the steals and the blop single in the 5th. Don't get why they didn't send him down for two starts or so to get stretched out but I guess they couldn't lose the arm for any amount of time. That or Leyland just didn't see the Phil Coke meltdown coming since it started over a month ago.
Doctor Detroit
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What a bs inning. Bourjas makes one of the best plays on a ball I've seen all year on the Miggy rocket, then VMART hits a bullet they turn into a DP. 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Another deuce. 
skillz
Footballguy
I think the success Granderson is having is another indictment on Lloyd. His swing was broken after he left Detroit and he couldn't hit lefties. The NY hitting coach fixed his mechanics and suddenly he's putting up huge numbers (granted playing at Yankee stadium plays a role but there's no way Lloyd would have turned Grandy around like NY has).You know what we need?Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him. I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1. Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
That's always the thing about trades. You never know for sure the guy would improve the same way without the new coaches he's working with.I think the success Granderson is having is another indictment on Lloyd. His swing was broken after he left Detroit and he couldn't hit lefties. The NY hitting coach fixed his mechanics and suddenly he's putting up huge numbers (granted playing at Yankee stadium plays a role but there's no way Lloyd would have turned Grandy around like NY has).You know what we need?Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him. I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1. Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Doctor Detroit
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I thought of this and I agree to a point as it relates to confidence and being a major league hitter. Granderson probably was going to figure it out regardless but obviously he has better coaching in New York, he would have better coaching at Erie to be honest. I don't mind them canning Knapp for the reasons they gave, but how they continue to employ Lloyd is beyond me. Boesch, Miggy, VMART and Peralta are the only guys who can hit and only Boesch might be able to give some credit to Lloyd.I think the success Granderson is having is another indictment on Lloyd. His swing was broken after he left Detroit and he couldn't hit lefties. The NY hitting coach fixed his mechanics and suddenly he's putting up huge numbers (granted playing at Yankee stadium plays a role but there's no way Lloyd would have turned Grandy around like NY has).You know what we need?
Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him.
I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1.
Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
It's just ####ty. I can live with the Granderson deal and, ya, its probably just a reactionary response to Knapp being fired but this #### is old. Leyland puts out lineups that are not geared to win. He literally puts the team in a position to lose. How many managers continue to do this and keep their job? Hell he STILL has Avila hitting 7th and rotating in and out of the lineup. The guy has a better WARP than Miggy. That's ######ed!!! Instead Magglio switches back and forth between the 3 and 5 and can't hit more than a single and is a liability on the basepaths. And not that it needs to be mentioned but the day Ryan Raburn leaves Detroit they should throw a parade like the Lions won the damn Superbowl.I thought of this and I agree to a point as it relates to confidence and being a major league hitter. Granderson probably was going to figure it out regardless but obviously he has better coaching in New York, he would have better coaching at Erie to be honest. I don't mind them canning Knapp for the reasons they gave, but how they continue to employ Lloyd is beyond me. Boesch, Miggy, VMART and Peralta are the only guys who can hit and only Boesch might be able to give some credit to Lloyd.I think the success Granderson is having is another indictment on Lloyd. His swing was broken after he left Detroit and he couldn't hit lefties. The NY hitting coach fixed his mechanics and suddenly he's putting up huge numbers (granted playing at Yankee stadium plays a role but there's no way Lloyd would have turned Grandy around like NY has).You know what we need?
Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him.
I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1.
Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
It's just ####ty. I can live with the Granderson deal and, ya, its probably just a reactionary response to Knapp being fired but this #### is old. Leyland puts out lineups that are not geared to win. He literally puts the team in a position to lose. How many managers continue to do this and keep their job? Hell he STILL has Avila hitting 7th and rotating in and out of the lineup. The guy has a better WARP than Miggy. That's ######ed!!! Instead Magglio switches back and forth between the 3 and 5 and can't hit more than a single and is a liability on the basepaths. And not that it needs to be mentioned but the day Ryan Raburn leaves Detroit they should throw a parade like the Lions won the damn Superbowl.I thought of this and I agree to a point as it relates to confidence and being a major league hitter. Granderson probably was going to figure it out regardless but obviously he has better coaching in New York, he would have better coaching at Erie to be honest. I don't mind them canning Knapp for the reasons they gave, but how they continue to employ Lloyd is beyond me. Boesch, Miggy, VMART and Peralta are the only guys who can hit and only Boesch might be able to give some credit to Lloyd.I think the success Granderson is having is another indictment on Lloyd. His swing was broken after he left Detroit and he couldn't hit lefties. The NY hitting coach fixed his mechanics and suddenly he's putting up huge numbers (granted playing at Yankee stadium plays a role but there's no way Lloyd would have turned Grandy around like NY has).You know what we need?
Bobby ####### Seay. When the hell is that guy coming back? Can't find any current info on him.
I can't believe it took this long to bring up Granderson. Took 18 months to hear that, no one was complaining when AJAX was winning ROY (he really won) and Scherzer was wrapping up the season with the sub 3 post all-star break ERA and a whip of around 1.
Good for Granderson, he deserves this kind of season and I'm glad for him after watching him slip into oblivion these last few years. He finally figured out how to hit lefthanders, I figured that would come at some point.
Grade A rant here, nice. Yeah if there is one thing I really hate about Leyland are his line-ups. They never make any sense and why Peralta or Avila isn't hitting in the top three is ridiculous.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
This is one of those must-see regular season games. Killer mound matchup.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Verlander's hook is pretty stupid. Especially after triple-digits in on the hands the pitch before.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
RABURN!
LOL
LOL
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
When Carlos Guillen is brought back from the land of the crippled RR might still be Toledo bound. Not sure who else they could send.
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skillz
Footballguy
Dirks or Wells. Doesn't make sense if that happens but Raburn is playing more than them so I could see one of them sent down instead of him. The guy is like gum on the bottom of your shoe - can't get rid of him.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
With Jackson iffy right now I wouldn't send an outfielder, I figured more of a 2nd base switch that would be a decent offensive upgrade.
skillz
Footballguy
I hear ya. Problem is you are using common sense and that doesn't coincide with how the personnel and lineup decisions are being made for the team.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
skillz
Footballguy
agreed AND Coke has helped the bullpen in late innings too.Valverde with his Todd Jones-esque saves lately has been giving me a heart attack. Hopefully he can keep it going and not fall off the map like he did the second half of last season.
skillz
Footballguy
So they sent Furbush down so he could continue to start in Toledo over the all star break and recalled Worth. Next time the 5th starter has to pitch is July 20 and Leyland isn't committing to using Furbush for that start. Looks like we may see Andy Oliver again, who knows. Looks more and more like we will need to get another starter for the rotation at the trade deadline.
Verlander today so it would be nice to get 3 of 4 from KC and maybe jump into first place at the break.
Verlander today so it would be nice to get 3 of 4 from KC and maybe jump into first place at the break.
whoknew
Footballguy
Yea I'd be surprised if DD doesn't make a trade for a starter. Not sure who is available.
ETA: Maybe Kuroda?
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skillz
Footballguy
Avila intentionally walked in order to pitch to Inge. He pathetically strikes out on 3 pitches. 
Even though he was batting against a righty Leyland elects to not bat Don Kelly but does decide to put Kelly in on defense for the bottom of the 8th
Inge then butchers play on grounder on bottom of 8th that could have ended inning.
There is officially no reason why that guy should be on the field anymore yet there he is
Even though he was batting against a righty Leyland elects to not bat Don Kelly but does decide to put Kelly in on defense for the bottom of the 8th Inge then butchers play on grounder on bottom of 8th that could have ended inning.
There is officially no reason why that guy should be on the field anymore yet there he is
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