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OG Post-Punk Countdown: 1977-1984 #1 - Joy Division - Transmission (1979) (Spotify playlist link in first post) (5 Viewers)

rockaction said:
You've...you've said enough.

In all seriousness, it's cool you have broad tastes, from the Kill Cult to the prog rock love. Hey, I'm a punk who loved certain hair metal -- probably because of glam and New York Bowery and Queens origins of said music -- so not everything has neat boxes, as is cool to say these days. Speaking of that, a digression: I long for the days when that sort of musical relativism was so uncool as to be cool. Perhaps the pendulum will swing the other way and debates can rage again.

Better than debates over other things these days, anyway.
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Lol.  I loved Rush so much that when I drove home from Gainesville to Maryland freshman year, I listened to all 17 of their albums (at the time) consecutively.  I thought that somehow knowing where I was in their catalog would help make the 12 hours pass by more quickly (i.e., "The live version of 'Freewill' must mean I'm almost two-thirds of the way home.")  Not so much.

I think I disavowed my fandom soon after and even used to pollute early FFA Rush threads with condescending jokes about "The Trees."  But now that I've grown up, my Rush hate has mellowed, and I can appreciate why folks love them even if I can never really listen to them again, 

 
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scorchy said:
#64 - Flipper - Sex Bomb (1981)

I've tried to keep anything generally considered hardcore or post-hardcore out of here (and it hurt me to leave out the Minutemen), but Flipper is just so damn sludgy.  And that saxophone...  "Sex Bomb" was the band's second single, and as one critic described it, the closest punk ever came to the "beer-filled genius of 'Louie Louie."  The bands first LP, released the following year, is still a main go-to when I want to drive my wife out of the room (along with Big Black's "Songs about ####ing").  Wondering whether our resident punk @rockactionloves "Sex Bomb" for its chaos or hates it for clocking in at 7-plus minutes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUufEMnU3w
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Not too familiar with Flipper (other than the 60s tv series) but a big fan of that Big Black album. I believe we have a poster that uses it as his avatar.

 
#61 - Shriekback - My Spine Is the Bassline (1982)

Shriekback was formed in 1981 by ex-Gang of Four bassist Dave Allen and ex-XTC vocalist/keyboardist Barry Andrews (and later members included Luc Van Acker from Revolting C#$!s).  They released several albums whose songs became college radio staples in the mid-to-late Eighties, including one track that was omnipresent at goth clubs for a decade (more on the post/punk and goth overlap coming later).  Earlier work, like their second single, "My Spine is the Bassline" didn't stray far from the funky output of their bassist's former band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp21F4fimkc

 
scorchy said:
#61 - Shriekback - My Spine Is the Bassline (1982)

Shriekback was formed in 1981 by ex-Gang of Four bassist Dave Allen and ex-XTC vocalist/keyboardist Barry Andrews (and later members included Luc Van Acker from Revolting C#$!s).  They released several albums whose songs became college radio staples in the mid-to-late Eighties, including one track that was omnipresent at goth clubs for a decade (more on the post/punk and goth overlap coming later).  Earlier work, like their second single, "My Spine is the Bassline" didn't stray far from the funky output of their bassist's former band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp21F4fimkc
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Great live band. Good band, and yeah- best stuff follows in the footsteps of later GO4 pretty closely. Some decent down tempo stuff too.

 
#60 - Liquid Liquid - Cavern (1983)

I know I posted in some long ago FFA thread how much I wish I could go back in time and visit NYC in the late '70s and early '80s, back when the burgeoning hip hop scene was tuned in to the beat of rare post-punk/dance records.  Liquid Liquid recorded three EPs and one single from 1981-1983, none of which got widespread release or airplay.  But the bassline of "Cavern" is legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGncWGLHdQw

 
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El Floppo said:
You could also run a post punk renaissance countdown. The last bunch of years has been a great run.
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Ask and ye shall receive.  Bit of warning thought that my top 20 is heavily skewed toward the turn of the century "revival" scene.  I've just not been as tuned in to newer music over the last 4 or 5 years, so my exposure is limited.

Anyway, back in the day, I managed to score the occasional fill-in DJ gig at a couple of great punk/glam/indie nights.  It was right at the time the post-punk revival scene was breaking and made for a heck of lot of good times and great music.  I've tried to steer clear of the pure dance-punk stuff (The Faint, LCD Soundsystem) and garage/newer-wave/indie (Libertines/Killers/Strokes) and threw in a few songs I like from the last few years too.  Starting with #s 20 to 16 and will fill in more at the next break.

#20 - Art Brut - Alcoholics Unanimous - 2009  (so very British.  Produced by Frank Black.)

#19 - Sleaford Mods - Kebab Spiders - 2019 (even more British.  My 16-year old hates this band more than anything else I play.)

#18 - Editors - Munich - 2005 (This one just soars.)

#17 - The Murder Capital - Don't Cling to Life - 2019 (Score one for Ireland.)

#16 - The Rakes - Retreat - 2005 (What do you mean, this doesn't sound like Gang of Four at all.)

 
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scorchy said:
Ask and ye shall receive.  Bit of warning thought that my top 20 is heavily skewed toward the turn of the century "revival" scene.  I've just not been as tuned in to newer music over the last 4 or 5 years, so my exposure is limited.

Anyway, back in the day, I managed to score the occasional fill-in DJ gig at a couple of great punk/glam/indie nights.  It was right at the time the post-punk revival scene was breaking and made for a heck of lot of good times and great music.  I've tried to steer clear of the pure dance-punk stuff (The Faint, LCD Soundsystem) and garage/newer-wave/indie (Libertines/Killers/Strokes) and threw in a few songs I like from the last few years too.  Starting with #s 20 to 16 and will fill in more at the next break.

#20 - Art Brut - Alcoholics Unanimous - 2009  (so very British.  Produced by Frank Black.)

#19 - Sleaford Mods - Kebab Spiders - 2019 (even more British.  My 16-year old hates this band more than anything else I play.)

#18 - Editors - Munich - 2005 (This one just soars.)

#17 - The Murder Capital - Don't Cling to Life - 2019 (Score one for Ireland.)

#16 - The Rakes - Retreat - 2005 (What do you mean, this doesn't sound like Gang of Four at all.)
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Don't know Rakes or Editors (as far as I recall...which isn't much)...can't wait to dive in!

Sleaford Mods otoh... Tell your kid he's a Moe. Ron. One of the most bizarre outfits to see live- but strangely can't look away. DJ dude slays me with his hands in pocket head bob.

Don't hear much charter about Murder Capital...inconsistent but with big highs. I'm a fan.

 
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#60 - Liquid Liquid - Cavern (1983)

I know I posted in some long ago FFA thread how much I wish I could go back in time and visit NYC in the late '70s and early '80s, back when the burgeoning hip hop scene was tuned in to the beat of rare post-punk/dance records.  Liquid Liquid recorded three EPs and one single from 1981-1983, none of which got widespread release or airplay.  But the bassline of "Cavern" is legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGncWGLHdQw
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That song! That song is legendary in two respects. "Something like a phenomenon," is an often-used vocal hook and that bass line is White lines...goin' through my mind

Never had heard of it. Thanks for posting. How awesome that is. 

 
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#59 - XTC - This Is Pop (1978)

I feel like XTC was one of those UK bands that kept "almost" making it over here.  I have vague recollections of seeing the videos for "Dear God" and  "Mayor of Simpleton" or hearing "Peter Pumpkinhead" on alternative radio, and seemingly everyone had that one dude in their college dorm who would never shut up about them.  "This is Pop," off of XTC's first album, was noisier than later stuff, but still had that hook in the chorus that foreshadows future work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgGtbhmAiQ  

 
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scorchy said:
#59 - XTC - This Is Pop (1978)

I feel like XTC was one of those UK bands that kept "almost" making it over here.  I have vague recollections of seeing the videos for "Dear God" and  "Mayor of Simpleton" or hearing "Peter Pumpkinhead" on alternative radio, and seemingly everyone had that one dude in their college dorm who would never shut up about them.  "This is Pop," off of XTC's first album, was noisier than later stuff, but still had that hook in the chorus that foreshadows future work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgGtbhmAiQ  
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Way underrated band imo.

 
rockaction said:
What the heck is up with all the Marillion love I've seen recently? I mean, I used to see them in the record store but never even thought twice about buying a record (and by the time streaming hit, nobody talked about Marillion, so it was '89 at a record strore or bust, or I guess. What am I missing here?).
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I never got it back in the mid-80's, still don't today.  I saw them once, opened for Rush maybe.  The only song I really remember was Kayleigh.  I think they were far bigger in the UK than here.

 
#58 - The Soft Boys - I Wanna Destroy You (1980)

Post-punk meets The Byrds and Cheap Trick.  The Soft Boys second album, 1980's Underwater Moonlight, is an instant classic, and its influences can be heard in everything from the Paisley Underground movement to Shoegaze.  After breaking up in 1981, vocalist and lead guitarist Robyn Hitchcock went on to a critically acclaimed but commercially disappointing solo career.  Meanwhile, rhythm guitarist Kimberly Rew managed to score a Top 10 US hit with Katrina and the Waves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KBMyogkrBM

 
#57 - Sisters of Mercy - Anaconda (1983)

Post-punk definitely begat goth and sometimes there's a really fine line between the two.  The Sisters of Mercy, despite founder Andrew Eldritch's ridiculous claims to the contrary, are as goth as it gets, so really don't belong here.  On the other hand, I had to delete my original #57 - a great song from an early incarnation of the slightly "punkier" Christian Death - because I couldn't find a clean version of the video and the lyrics are problematic to say the least.

I didn't want to lose the vibe completely and at least "Anaconda," the Sisters' third single, is nowhere near as over-the-top goth as their later stuff.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM7dQTIEHnQ

And for Mountain Goats fans, here's the ridiculously goofy Andrew Eldritch is Moving Back to Leeds from their album "Goths."

 
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#58 - The Soft Boys - I Wanna Destroy You (1980)

Post-punk meets The Byrds and Cheap Trick.  The Soft Boys second album, 1980's Underwater Moonlight, is an instant classic, and its influences can be heard in everything from the Paisley Underground movement to Shoegaze.  After breaking up in 1981, vocalist and lead guitarist Robyn Hitchcock went on to a critically acclaimed but commercially disappointing solo career.  Meanwhile, rhythm guitarist Kimberly Rew managed to score a Top 10 US hit with Katrina and the Waves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KBMyogkrBM
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Another by Mr. Hitchcock I always liked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=asFNhcMgv5Y

 
#56 - Simple Minds - Celebrate (1980)

During some random dorm-room conversation in the early 90s, a guy down the hall told me that Simple Minds used to be cool.  I was like "'Alive & Kicking' Simple Minds?  'Sanctify Yourself' Simple Minds? No way."  So he pulled out an old tape from the band's pre-Breakfast Club days and proved himself correct.  Like U2, I think Simple Minds had their eyes on being huge but, IMO, just started to put out over-wrought crap instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxhVVU1qsXQ

 
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scorchy said:
#56 - Simple Minds - Celebrate (1980)

During some random dorm-room conversation in the early 90s, a guy down the hall told me that Simple Minds used to be cool.  I was like "'Alive & Kicking' Simple Minds?  'Sanctify Yourself' Simple Minds? No way."  So he pulled out an old tape from the band's pre-Breakfast Club days and proved himself correct.  Like U2, I think Simple Minds had their eyes on being huge but, IMO, just started to put out over-wrought crap instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxhVVU1qsXQ
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Grossly underrated band, imo...precisely because of the crap they became as a "big" band that you posted. Their first few post, experimental albums were all cool and interesting. I would've gone with the American here I think, but there's a bunch of decent stuff there includomg the one you linked. They elevated, imo, when they swerved into new wave (and jesus-ey) territory with the back to back New Gold Dream and Sparkle in the Rain just before the breakfast club stuff. I'd put those two albums up against any in the genre. Still listen to both.

Eta...and lol...I'm prone to overwrought stuff- just ask my fanboi David Sylvian club friends.

 
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#55 - Killing Joke - Wardance (1980)

The first-wave of post-punk definitely had a huge influence on alternative, grunge, and goth.  Killing Joke is one of the few early bands that directly inspired industrial - you can't hear their first single "Wardance" and not immediately think Ministry, Skinny Puppy, or a few dozen other less "famous" industrial bands.  Mainly known to the average music fan for their minor MTV hit "Eighties," Killing Joke has released 15 studio albums, 14 live records, and more than two dozen singles over the past 30 years.  Strangely, the band also opened for Motley Crue during part of an early-2000s tour. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Bq6Yp7S0M

 
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scorchy said:
#55 - Killing Joke - Wardance (1980)

The first-wave of post-punk definitely had a huge influence on alternative, grunge, and goth.  Killing Joke is one of the few early bands that directly inspired industrial - you can't hear their first single "Wardance" and not immediately think Ministry, Skinny Puppy, or a few dozen other less "famous" industrial bands.  Mainly known to the average music fan for their minor MTV hit "Eighties," Killing Joke has released 15 studio albums, 14 live records, and more than two dozen singles over the past 30 years.  Strangely, the band also opened for Motley Crue during part of an early-2000s tour. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Bq6Yp7S0M
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@RedmondLonghorn recent KJ convert

 
#54 - Swell Maps - The Helicopter Spies (1980)

I always wonder when I read that Thurston Moore or Stephen Malkmus cite some uber-obscure band like Swell Maps as this huge influence, are they just saying it to sound cooler-than-thou?  Swell Maps released two albums of noisy post-punk before breaking up in 1980 - the second, "Jane from Occupied Europe" is a much better listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZOTrDzQFt4

 
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#54 - Swell Maps - The Helicopter Spies (1980)

I always wonder when I read that Thurston Moore or Stephen Malkmus cite some uber-obscure band like Swell Maps as this huge influence, are they just saying it to sound cooler-than-thou?  Swell Maps released two albums of noisy post-punk before breaking up in 1980 - the second, "Jane from Occupied Europe" is a much better listen.

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Every time I see the band name, I think of Glenn Hansard and am always shocked that a- he's that old, and b- he came from the genre. And then I remember season, not maps.

 
#53- Josef K - Heads Watch (1981)

"I stand and look outside, at pseudo-punks, and all the mindless."  

Josef K released several singles on the Postcard label (founded by fellow Scots Ski Patrol) before recording their first album, 1980's "Sorry for Laughing."  The band hated the production so much that they scrapped its release, with the the dozen or so bootleg copies still fetching hundreds of dollars today.  A few months later, having recorded a new album that reached #3 on the UK Indie chart, Josef K decided that being successful didn't jibe with being punk and the band broke up.  "Heads Watch" is from their unreleased first album which was was re-pressed and commercially released in 1990.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phJXt_ofd4w

 
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#52 - The Human League - Being Boiled (1978)

How does a band go from releasing a sinister Kraftwerkian first single like "Being Boiled" and opening for Siouxsie and the Banshees to scoring a US/UK #1 hit in 3 short years?  Easy - just have the lead singer (Philip Oakey) kick out the two founding keyboard players (who went on to form Heaven 17), recruit two teenage girls for additional vocals, and record a perfect pop song like "Don't You Want Me?"  The Human League went on to a second US top 10 hit in 1983 ("Fascination") and another #1 in 1986 ("Human").  Meanwhile, Heaven 17 peaked at #32 with "Let Me Go," so maybe Philip Oakey was right all along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keaQ-50Z01w

 
#51 - Fad Gadget - The Box (1979)

I know I'm biased, but this song is just so ####### good...

Fad Gadget was the stage name of Francis Tovey, a prolific electronic artist who influenced many new wave and industrial acts.  After finishing up his university degree in Leeds, Tovey bought a tape recorder, a cheap keyboard, and a drum machine and recorded a bunch of songs in his kitchen.  After meeting the founder of Mute Records at the Rough Trade shop, Fad Gadget's debut single "Back to Nature/bw The Box" became the label's second release.  Covey released four albums as Fad Gadget before starting to record and perform under his given name in 1985.  He died of a heart attack in 2002 at the age of 46.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTe5W5_Ekag

 
#50 - Young Marble Giants - Credit in the Straight World (1980)

The only Welsh band (I think) in the countdown, Young Marble Giants formed in Cardiff in 1978.  YMG's demo tape got them signed to Rough Trade Records, where they produced two EPs and one full-length before disbanding in early 1981.  According to his diaries, YMG were Kurt Cobain's favorite band (along with The Vaselines) and their songs have been officially covered by Hole, Belle & Sebastian, Magnetic Fields, and Galaxie 500.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blNCvZG_LT4

 
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#49 - Mission of Burma - That's When I Reach for My Revolver (1981)

The first of two from Boston's finest.  Mission of Burma were intense, fierce, and loud.  Unfortunately, they were so loud that tinnitus caused them to break up after 2 years, leaving just one EP and one full album.  Mission of Burma reformed in the early 2000s and picked up right where they left off, releasing four more records over the next decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaQqshZbtEQ

 
scorchy said:
#49 - Mission of Burma - That's When I Reach for My Revolver (1981)

The first of two from Boston's finest.  Mission of Burma were intense, fierce, and loud.  Unfortunately, they were so loud that tinnitus caused them to break up after 2 years, leaving just one EP and one full album.  Mission of Burma reformed in the early 2000s and picked up right where they left off, releasing four more records over the next decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaQqshZbtEQ
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One of my favorite tunes.

 
scorchy said:
#49 - Mission of Burma - That's When I Reach for My Revolver (1981)

The first of two from Boston's finest.  Mission of Burma were intense, fierce, and loud.  Unfortunately, they were so loud that tinnitus caused them to break up after 2 years, leaving just one EP and one full album.  Mission of Burma reformed in the early 2000s and picked up right where they left off, releasing four more records over the next decade.

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MOB's new stuff holds up surprisingly well. They're just great songwriters. This song is a classic, as is "That's When I Escaped My Certain Fate," the latter of which was immortalized in Rhino's Faster & Louder: Hardcore Punk Volume I and II series.

Oops. Is that the other one of which you speak, now that I've read this more carefully?

 
scorchy said:
#51 - Fad Gadget - The Box (1979)

I know I'm biased, but this song is just so ####### good...

Fad Gadget was the stage name of Francis Tovey, a prolific electronic artist who influenced many new wave and industrial acts.  After finishing up his university degree in Leeds, Tovey bought a tape recorder, a cheap keyboard, and a drum machine and recorded a bunch of songs in his kitchen.  After meeting the founder of Mute Records at the Rough Trade shop, Fad Gadget's debut single "Back to Nature/bw The Box" became the label's second release.  Covey released four albums as Fad Gadget before starting to record and perform under his given name in 1985.  He died of a heart attack in 2002 at the age of 46.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTe5W5_Ekag
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Another very underrated musician imo. Snakes and Ladders comes to mind. Fireside Favourites too.

 
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#48 - Modern English - Gathering Dust (1980)

Modern English are the second of three bands on my list to have a breakout single - one that sounds very little like their earlier work - thanks to an 80s teen movie.  The band originally formed in 1979 as the Lepers, before wisely changing their name and quickly signing to the legendary goth/dreampop label 4AD.  That famous song on the "Valley Girl" soundtrack helped Modern English's second album attain Gold status in the U.S. in 1982, but it's their third single that exemplifies the band's sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FJ9vFFnjo

 
#47 - Magazine - A Song From Under the Floorboards (1980)

Howard DeVoto left the Buzzcocks in 1977 and quickly formed Magazine.  From 1978 - 1981, they were one of the biggest bands in post-punk, releasing four excellent albums and influencing innumerable future acts (their songs have been covered by artists as diverse as Radiohead, Morrissey, and Ministry).  Magazine reformed for a series of sold-out shows in 2008 and put out a new record in 2011.  "A Song From Under the Floorboards" was the lead single from their their third album ("The Correct Use of Soap") and boasts a lyric that Mrs. Scorchy says describes me perfectly - "my irritability keeps me alive and kicking."

P.S., Despite what's depicted in "24 Hour Party People," Howard DeVoto maintains that he didn't sleep with Tony Wilson's wife in the bathroom of The Hacienda (or anywhere else for that matter).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kewkTjNfUfk

 
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scorchy said:
#47 - Magazine - A Song From Under the Floorboards (1980)

Howard DeVoto left the Buzzcocks in 1977 and quickly formed Magazine.  From 1978 - 1981, they were one of the biggest bands in post-punk, releasing four excellent albums and influencing innumerable future acts (their songs have been covered by artists as diverse as Radiohead, Morrissey, and Ministry).  Magazine reformed for a series of sold-out shows in 2008 and put out a new record in 2011.  "A Song From Under the Floorboards" was the lead single from their their third album ("The Correct Use of Soap") and boasts a lyric that Mrs. Scorchy says describes me perfectly - "my irritability keeps me alive and kicking."

P.S., Despite what's depicted in "24 Hour Part People," Howard DeVoto maintains that he didn't sleep with Tony Wilson's wife in the bathroom of The Hacienda (or anywhere else for that matter).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kewkTjNfUfk
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Another great one  :thumbup:

 
scorchy said:
#56 - Simple Minds - Celebrate (1980)

During some random dorm-room conversation in the early 90s, a guy down the hall told me that Simple Minds used to be cool.  I was like "'Alive & Kicking' Simple Minds?  'Sanctify Yourself' Simple Minds? No way."  So he pulled out an old tape from the band's pre-Breakfast Club days and proved himself correct.  Like U2, I think Simple Minds had their eyes on being huge but, IMO, just started to put out over-wrought crap instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxhVVU1qsXQ
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My English brother in law absolutely loves early (and some later) Simple Minds.

 
scorchy said:
#47 - Magazine - A Song From Under the Floorboards (1980)

Howard DeVoto left the Buzzcocks in 1977 and quickly formed Magazine.  From 1978 - 1981, they were one of the biggest bands in post-punk, releasing four excellent albums and influencing innumerable future acts (their songs have been covered by artists as diverse as Radiohead, Morrissey, and Ministry).  Magazine reformed for a series of sold-out shows in 2008 and put out a new record in 2011.  "A Song From Under the Floorboards" was the lead single from their their third album ("The Correct Use of Soap") and boasts a lyric that Mrs. Scorchy says describes me perfectly - "my irritability keeps me alive and kicking."

P.S., Despite what's depicted in "24 Hour Party People," Howard DeVoto maintains that he didn't sleep with Tony Wilson's wife in the bathroom of The Hacienda (or anywhere else for that matter).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kewkTjNfUfk
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Howard had to be one of the creepier front men in history.  That said, he and his talented bandmates made some incredible music together.

 
#46 - Bauhaus - Kick in the Eye (1981)

The Godfathers of Goth bring the the funk.  Another 4AD signing, Bauhaus were consistently the gloomiest of the big post-punk bands, and inspired generations of young Willows and Azraels to wear all black clothes, write bad poetry, and do that weird "pick up a penny off the floor and show it to God" goth dance (guilty as charged, here).  "Kick in the Eye," off Bauhaus' second album, is more upbeat than gloomy - at least as upbeat as a song about (metaphorically) being kicked in the eye can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu_Xsa43jBw

 
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