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[madd futher]

Did I miss something or did the NFL decide not to allow offensive linemen. I've been trying to keep with / up/update the free agent movement = thought I'd crosscheck agains Henry's depth charts. Every position listed but the O-lines.

What's up with that?

 

[jon_mx]

I usually don't draft an offensive lineman until at least the third round.

BTW, this site is geared towards fantasy football leagues. Never heard of a league incorporating OL due to the lack of available stats, but perhaps there are some hard core leagues out there that could look at things like sacks allowed. Considering you have been here since 2007 and have over 400 posts, it is a bit of a surprising question.

 

[DawnBTVS]

The only thing I can think of re: the OP is that he's trying to make sense of offensive scheme changes/offenses that are improving by addressing OL. A lot of FF fans tend to scoff at OL but we all know that they can play a very vital part in the success of lack thereof of a running game or passing attack.

Example: OG Deuce Lutui is leaving Arizona for the Cincinnati Bengals. So Arizona could see a slight downtick losing their starting RG while Cincinnati could see a slight uptick in terms of pass protection. Harvey Dahl going to St. Louis is a huge improvement and could allow for more pass attempts by Bradford/better rushing totals for Jackson.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

You both are correct. Its good to know who the lineman are on the depth chart for a better purpose of ranking your players. But O-lineman have no impact in fantasy league draft boards what so ever.

I think for pure football fans, an OL depth chart would be cool, for fantasy fans, it may not matter.

 

[madd futher]

Yes it does matter if you are looking for the fine edge over your fantasy opponents. DawnBTVS said it right. Here's another example per Rotoworld this morning:

"Barring injuries," the Steelers are planning to go with Jonathan Scott as their left tackle this season.

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Ed Bouchette, "there really is no other plan." If that's true, the Steelers will be opening the season with one of the league's worst blindside protectors. Re-signing Max Starks remains a possibility, while Scott could eventually be pushed by rookie Marcus Gilbert.

Don't you think stuff like this just might affect the Steeler offense?

I mean when put out a depth chart that includes every other position, why not do a complete job?

 

[Mark Wimer]

Yes it does matter if you are looking for the fine edge over your fantasy opponents. DawnBTVS said it right. Here's another example per Rotoworld this morning:

"Barring injuries," the Steelers are planning to go with Jonathan Scott as their left tackle this season.

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Ed Bouchette, "there really is no other plan." If that's true, the Steelers will be opening the season with one of the league's worst blindside protectors. Re-signing Max Starks remains a possibility, while Scott could eventually be pushed by rookie Marcus Gilbert.

Don't you think stuff like this just might affect the Steeler offense?

I mean when put out a depth chart that includes every other position, why not do a complete job?

Individual offensive linemen aren't in our database of players, if I recall correctly. If we added them to the depth charts, there would be a lot of dead links to OL player pages that don't exist (remember, our depth charts are fully integrated with the projections/rankings/news pages through the individual player pages - the depth charts are 'clickable')

Secondly, most fantasy leagues don't use statistics from the OL as a unit (although one of my umpteen leagues does keep track of sacks allowed and total rush yards per game), and individual statistics for linemen simply aren't available to be used in any given scoring model. The OL is outside the scope of most fantasy leagues, and individual offensive linemen are outside the scoring paradigm of fantasy football in general (I've never heard of a league with individual OT, OG, and C positions that have to be drafted/managed/scored).

Really hard-core fantasy fans like madd futher already track OL's - but a vast majority of our customers don't want (or need) OL depth charts. In this case, we don't include OL in the depth charts for site architecture and also due to practical, lack-of-demand and ease-of-use reasons.

 

[kinglochness]

Yes it does matter if you are looking for the fine edge over your fantasy opponents. DawnBTVS said it right. Here's another example per Rotoworld this morning:

"Barring injuries," the Steelers are planning to go with Jonathan Scott as their left tackle this season.

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Ed Bouchette, "there really is no other plan." If that's true, the Steelers will be opening the season with one of the league's worst blindside protectors. Re-signing Max Starks remains a possibility, while Scott could eventually be pushed by rookie Marcus Gilbert.

Don't you think stuff like this just might affect the Steeler offense?

I mean when put out a depth chart that includes every other position, why not do a complete job?

Individual offensive linemen aren't in our database of players, if I recall correctly. If we added them to the depth charts, there would be a lot of dead links to OL player pages that don't exist (remember, our depth charts are fully integrated with the projections/rankings/news pages through the individual player pages - the depth charts are 'clickable')

Secondly, most fantasy leagues don't use statistics from the OL as a unit (although one of my umpteen leagues does keep track of sacks allowed and total rush yards per game), and individual statistics for linemen simply aren't available to be used in any given scoring model. The OL is outside the scope of most fantasy leagues, and individual offensive linemen are outside the scoring paradigm of fantasy football in general (I've never heard of a league with individual OT, OG, and C positions that have to be drafted/managed/scored).

Really hard-core fantasy fans like madd futher already track OL's - but a vast majority of our customers don't want (or need) OL depth charts. In this case, we don't include OL in the depth charts for site architecture and also due to practical, lack-of-demand and ease-of-use reasons.

I would love to see offensive line depth charts posted on FBG. Not for drafting obviously, but it would be great when making my QB, RB, WR projections. I know that's a ton of work, but that's the kind of stuff that sets this site apart. Good topic.

 

[jon_mx]

IMHO, the best tool for most people would be a grading of each team's OL. Evaluate teams run and pass blocking and how deep they are as well as any injury concerns. An OL needs to be evaluated as a unit, getting down to the individual level is impractical. I could not even dream of doing anything with that information even if it was available.

 

[renesauz]

Why not construct a seperate chart? A simple chart without links? Seems like that would be quick and relatively easy to do, and would satisfy the few people who would like to see them?