Come SNF you are going to see LJ's "official" coming out party. For those who watched last week's KC game, it was cristal clear who the better back was, the tougher, fresher back..and it wasn't Priest. If I didn't have LJ I would definitely trade a CMart or older type back or WR to get him NOW. For those who didn't get to watch the KC game, please don't chime in until you watch it first.
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J-Rock
Footballguy
I saw the game. LJ picked up all the yards running through gaping holes. not by making something out of nothing. Priest broke a few for 6-10 yards when the blocking collapsed. IMO the better back is still Priest.That said, in a keeper league I totally agree. trade an older productive back to get LJ on your roster for later.
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
Is LJ your father??? That might explain the infatuation.And if he is, does he beat up mommy?
Whether LJ is better than Priest or vice versa is moot. The main thing to remember is that LJ will only get 9 to 10 carries per game which severely limits his potential fantasy scoring. Last week is probably his ceiling as long as Holmes is healthy. So strictly in a redraft setting I would argue your point and say that you should trade LJ now while his value is at its peak. I'm sure you could probably land Culpepper at this point in some guppy leagues with LJ 
Bristol
Footballguy
Thank you for backing up my comments from a previous post.Whether LJ is better than Priest or vice versa is moot. The main thing to remember is that LJ will only get 9 to 10 carries per game which severely limits his potential fantasy scoring. Last week is probably his ceiling as long as Holmes is healthy. So strictly in a redraft setting I would argue your point and say that you should trade LJ now while his value is at its peak. I'm sure you could probably land Culpepper at this point in some guppy leagues with LJ
seahawk 17
Footballguy
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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I saw the game ... Priest is the better back!!
I could've run through the holes that LJ had.And I'm slower than ****.
boubucarow
Footballguy
He exploded through holes so quickly that Priest would not have gained as many yards on those runs. He also slammed in for his touchdown over a group of Jets. Priest had a good touchdown run and a good first run but Johnson could have scored a TD on that first good Priest run if he exploded through the hole as quickly as he did on his runs. Also, Priest did not even score on his touchdown run (should have been challenged) so don't give him too much credit for it and realize that despite how good he fought for that TD, I think that LJ could have done the same.The only other explosion that impressed me as much as LJ into the secondary as quick as a blink is Sproles returning kicks for the Chargers. Priest is still the better blocker and probably receiver but he is not as explosive as LJ and they are equally tough.I saw the game ... Priest is the better back!!
And I'm slower than ****.
Nobody knows when Larry will get more than 30% of the carries but please realize that he will gain more yards than Priest on most carries.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
As I've stated before, I own both and am not biased. Priest owners are in denial. Did it ever occur to people that they had the same holes and LJ just hit his before they closed? That's what speed does.....I saw the game ... Priest is the better back!!
And I'm slower than ****.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I've mentioned before.Most any young RB will look explosive come week 1. It's how he looks come weeks 10, 11, 12, 13 etc that seperates the men from boys.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Oh brother.
SSOG
Moderator
I think it's funny that I'm being advised to buy Larry Johnson low after a game where he averaged over 10 yards a touch and a TD every 5.What, is he going to average 15 yards a touch and a TD every 3 this week? I mean, that's pretty much what he'd have to do to drive up his value right now. No player is ever available "cheap" after they put up 10 ypc and 2 TDs on 10 touches.I suppose I should be looking to buy Keenan McCardell, Carnell Williams, and Willie Parker cheap right now, too, huh? Maybe I should try to trade for C. Anderson before his value goes up? Make a move on Jimmie Smith while he's still a bargain?
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
The ghost of Fred Lane.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.Can you get him cheap? NO!
Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe
Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably
All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.
For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!
It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game.
So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it!
For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward.
Just my $0.02.
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mojorizin
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Its a shame that we have so much commentary on LJ only gaining yards and TDs because he was running through gaping holes. Lest we forget, running through gaping holes is the only reason people have acted like Priest Holmes is the second coming of Walter Payton over the past 4 years. I've said the same about both Holmes and Emmitt Smith - you look real good when you go untouched into the defensive secondary on every other carry. Yards After Contact my #### - how about Yards BEFORE Contact?
-OZ-
Footballguy
Does it ever amaze anyone else how fickle, and quick to jump on the next big thing, most posters are?Last year was the time to get LJ cheap. Most here blasted him. I was able to land LJ and a 1st for Mewelde Moore in one league (I have since dropped that league). Now, he's seen as the next Payton? The truth is somewhere in between.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
As I've posted in other threads, I can't see Holmes taking a backseat to Johnson unless Holmes' production starts going WAY downhill or he gets hurt. For those that missed the press release, Holmes has scored 69 TD in his last 40 games played.I'm not suggested that Johnson also has not done well, but Holmes IMO has earned a fair amount of playing time. Johnson could and likely will start eating into Holmes' touches, but I doubt we will see Holmes on the bench and Johnson as the start unless Holmes gets hurt (which is always a possibility).
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Anyone else starting to feel like they'd rather sit through a full season of Gilmore Girls than read another LJ vs. Priest thread?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I remember when Faulk got hurt a few years ago and Trung Canidate stepped in and had over 500 yards and 4 TD in 3 games. Did that get Canidate much beyond that and did he kick Faulk to the curb?I watched the Chiefs game. Johnson looked fantastic. Holmes didn't look bad. IMO, many of Holmes' carries he had little running room and got hit in the backfield or right at the line of scrimmage. In Johnson's limited carries, he did have a burst but his long runs he had the Grand Canyon to run through.Either back will rely on his OL to be able to move the ball. The stat sheet shows that Johnson did better last week, but it doesn't show Holmes with 30 yards on 22 carries and 0 TD either.NFL coaches don't think like fantasy owners. Holmes will continue to get a ton of carries and touches. Johnson may get more of a workload than a typical backup.
Oh and Priest burst did anyone come close to tackling him?
To be honest Priest didn't look that impressive. He was solid, but he clearly didn't look like the elite back he has in years past. LJ clearly did.I find it funny when people comment that LJ went through gaping holes but fail to mention that the ONLY time Priest picked up any signifigant yards it was when nobody was within a snif of him. I saw LJ bowl over people, Priest didnt.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Ive been trying to get LJ Smith during offseason/preseason but his owners do not seem to want to give him up easily now that he is the top TE in Philly anymore.Maybe he does break out this week.
Bristol
Footballguy
I think you are sniffing up the wrong tree.Holmes was not a starter until he got to KC a few years ago. People always like to use the wear and tear and age excuse when they talk about Holmes. Who will have more wear and tear at the same age: Tomlinson or Holmes? The answer would be Tomlinson because he has started games from day one.
Yudkin hit the nail on the head. Vermeil respects Holmes and he will not start LJ over him. It's plain as day and crystal clear. Keep living in denial.
BTW, I own both.
-OZ-
Footballguy
It has nothing to do with being a "shark", nothing personal, but I despise comments like this. "I'm a shark, so I know everything..."YOu have LJ?????
No kidding!! The tone of all of your posts suggests it. It also blinds your objective view of the situation. Keep living in denial, son and keep hoping that LJ gets more than his 9 carries a game. True sharks know the situation, others think they do.
Anyway, LJ is not the lead back, he will get good YPC because he's behind a great line and gets to attack a worn out defense. Both are solid plays, LJ seems to be the better value right now, as he was most likely taken much later than Priest.Any way you slice it, KC has the best RB duo in the game right now. The only others that come close IMO is San Diego and Cincy, and they don't have the line.
Ahmad Rashad
Footballguy
LJ would have had more carries if he hadn't done so well. You guys who keep harping on the fact that LJ only had 9 carries should realize that if he had averaged 5 ypc instead of 12+, he probably would have had twice as many carries. He was in as the RB for those series, and because he was so effective, it took fewer carries to cover the yards and get in the end zone.To assume that LJ will only max out at 9 carries a game after week 1 is silly. If he only gets 9 carries, it's because he's doing amzingly well like in game 1. He's much more likely to get 10-15, and maybe even more if he has the "hot hand" relative to Priest and they pound the ball late in the game. After week 1, they've indicated that they'll have to play LJ more, especially if he has the "hot hand" -- 2 series for Priest, 1 for LJ, then lean on whoever's more effective.
Priest is a stud, but he turns 32 next month, and Vermiel wants to keep him healthy by not overworking him, especially when not necessary late in games that aren't close. He'll remain the starter while healthy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll always be the highest scoring fantasy RB on the team (as seen in week 1).
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