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he's getting carries starting the game
8 carries for 13 yards :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Better get him now.....

Give it a rest already.....
Yeah Priest earning his draft spot.. Give it a break.. Priest days are over.. Those who took him in the 1st will end up losing unless they have LJ.. By far the worst post I seen you make.. how can you judge a part time player?? He's not a starter like Holmes who has done NOTHING.. :rolleyes:
 
he's getting carries starting the game
8 carries for 13 yards :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Better get him now.....

Give it a rest already.....
Question for you:After Week 3 who has the most fantasy points?

A. Larry Johnson

B. Priest Holmes

:bye: Night
Answer: Priest HolmesPPR leagues, 6 points per TD, 1 point per 10 yards, -2 for fumbles:

Priest Holmes: 44 points

Larry Johnson: 34 points

Larry Johnson had a great week 1, a mediocre week 2, and a terrible week 3. Priest Holmes has been decent each week.

Keep pushing this and you will only further your status as a laughingstock.

:bye:

 
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he's getting carries starting the game
8 carries for 13 yards :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Better get him now.....

Give it a rest already.....
Question for you:After Week 3 who has the most fantasy points?

A. Larry Johnson

B. Priest Holmes

:bye: Night
Answer: Priest HolmesPPR leagues, 6 points per TD, 1 point per 10 yards, -2 for fumbles:

Priest Holmes: 44 points

Larry Johnson: 34 points

Larry Johnson had a great week 1, a mediocre week 2, and a terrible week 3. Priest Holmes has been decent each week.

Keep pushing this and you will only further your status as a laughingstock.

:bye:
Oh, and Larry Johnson had 31 of those 34 points in week 1. He has averaged 1.5 points the last 2 weeks, including negative points this week.
 
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he's getting carries starting the game
8 carries for 13 yards :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Better get him now.....

Give it a rest already.....
Yeah Priest earning his draft spot.. Give it a break.. Priest days are over.. Those who took him in the 1st will end up losing unless they have LJ.. By far the worst post I seen you make.. how can you judge a part time player?? He's not a starter like Holmes who has done NOTHING.. :rolleyes:
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he's getting carries starting the game
8 carries for 13 yards :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Better get him now.....

Give it a rest already.....
Question for you:After Week 3 who has the most fantasy points?

A. Larry Johnson

B. Priest Holmes

:bye: Night
Answer: Priest HolmesPPR leagues, 6 points per TD, 1 point per 10 yards, -2 for fumbles:

Priest Holmes: 44 points

Larry Johnson: 34 points

Larry Johnson had a great week 1, a mediocre week 2, and a terrible week 3. Priest Holmes has been decent each week.

Keep pushing this and you will only further your status as a laughingstock.

:bye:
Oh, and Larry Johnson had 31 of those 34 points in week 1. He has averaged 1.5 points the last 2 weeks, including negative points this week.
Oh, and this is the breakdown of points scored week to week:Larry Johnson:

week 1: 31 points

week 2: 4 points

week 3: -1 points

Priest Holmes:

week 1: 15 points

week 2: 17 points

week 3: 12 points

Consistency is valuable :thumbup:

 
Question for you:After Week 3 who has the most fantasy points?  A. Larry Johnson  B. Priest Holmes :bye:   Night
3 leagues, Holmes is scoring more FF points in all 3 after week 3.1) Holmes #16 RB, LJ #21 RB2) Holmes #13 RB, LJ #16 RB3) Holmes #12 RB, LJ #14 RBStarting them as a tandem isn't looking so hot right now, either...
 
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Oh, and this is the breakdown of points scored week to week:

Larry Johnson:

week 1: 31 points

week 2: 4 points

week 3: -1 points

Priest Holmes:

week 1: 15 points

week 2: 17 points

week 3: 12 points

Consistency is valuable :thumbup:
I thought Larry Johnson had a TD in week 2, how would he only get 4 pts?
 
Oh, and this is the breakdown of points scored week to week:

Larry Johnson:

week 1: 31 points

week 2: 4 points

week 3: -1 points

Priest Holmes:

week 1: 15 points

week 2: 17 points

week 3: 12 points

Consistency is valuable  :thumbup:
I thought Larry Johnson had a TD in week 2, how would he only get 4 pts?
I'm sorry, I screwed up. I credited him with 3 TDs in week 1 and 0 in week 2.Larry Johnson:

week 1: 25 points

week 2: 10 points

week 3: -1 points

Priest Holmes:

week 1: 15 points

week 2: 17 points

week 3: 12 points

Same arguments apply. Sorry for the bad math :bag:

 
Yeah, he's cheap now. Sure he is.
As cheap as he ever will be...
Posted on Sept. 16th, after LJ's 25 point performance Week 1.Sorry, Cream, you have no validity after going on and on about this after Week 1, only to be proven wrong. He's much cheaper now than he was after Week 1.

But after his performance this week, it's a good time for the Priest owners w/out LJ to start targeting him again.

 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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Keep living in denial, son and keep hoping that LJ gets more than his 9 carries a game.  True sharks know the situation, others think they do.
LJ would have had more carries if he hadn't done so well. You guys who keep harping on the fact that LJ only had 9 carries should realize that if he had averaged 5 ypc instead of 12+, he probably would have had twice as many carries. He was in as the RB for those series, and because he was so effective, it took fewer carries to cover the yards and get in the end zone.To assume that LJ will only max out at 9 carries a game after week 1 is silly. If he only gets 9 carries, it's because he's doing amzingly well like in game 1. He's much more likely to get 10-15, and maybe even more if he has the "hot hand" relative to Priest and they pound the ball late in the game. After week 1, they've indicated that they'll have to play LJ more, especially if he has the "hot hand" -- 2 series for Priest, 1 for LJ, then lean on whoever's more effective.

Priest is a stud, but he turns 32 next month, and Vermiel wants to keep him healthy by not overworking him, especially when not necessary late in games that aren't close. He'll remain the starter while healthy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll always be the highest scoring fantasy RB on the team (as seen in week 1).
Well, Johnson has averaged less than 5 yards per carry his last 2 games, and his carries haven't really increased at all.
 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:

 
Keep living in denial, son and keep hoping that LJ gets more than his 9 carries a game. True sharks know the situation, others think they do.
LJ would have had more carries if he hadn't done so well. You guys who keep harping on the fact that LJ only had 9 carries should realize that if he had averaged 5 ypc instead of 12+, he probably would have had twice as many carries. He was in as the RB for those series, and because he was so effective, it took fewer carries to cover the yards and get in the end zone.To assume that LJ will only max out at 9 carries a game after week 1 is silly. If he only gets 9 carries, it's because he's doing amzingly well like in game 1. He's much more likely to get 10-15, and maybe even more if he has the "hot hand" relative to Priest and they pound the ball late in the game. After week 1, they've indicated that they'll have to play LJ more, especially if he has the "hot hand" -- 2 series for Priest, 1 for LJ, then lean on whoever's more effective.

Priest is a stud, but he turns 32 next month, and Vermiel wants to keep him healthy by not overworking him, especially when not necessary late in games that aren't close. He'll remain the starter while healthy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll always be the highest scoring fantasy RB on the team (as seen in week 1).
Well, Johnson has averaged less than 5 yards per carry his last 2 games, and his carries haven't really increased at all.
Bah, we were right, just like we knew we would be.But no reason to harp on it. Just be glad you knew what was going on, and saw through the facade.

 
What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?

"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Honestly...You don't think the average owner values LJ less after he put up this kind of game?

If you don't...you're crazy. Absolutely nuts.

He's cheaper than he was last week. Deal. If, in your opinion, he shouldn't be, that's an argument you could make. But it doesn't change the fact that in the average Joe's mind, he will be.

 
Keep living in denial, son and keep hoping that LJ gets more than his 9 carries a game.  True sharks know the situation, others think they do.
LJ would have had more carries if he hadn't done so well. You guys who keep harping on the fact that LJ only had 9 carries should realize that if he had averaged 5 ypc instead of 12+, he probably would have had twice as many carries. He was in as the RB for those series, and because he was so effective, it took fewer carries to cover the yards and get in the end zone.To assume that LJ will only max out at 9 carries a game after week 1 is silly. If he only gets 9 carries, it's because he's doing amzingly well like in game 1. He's much more likely to get 10-15, and maybe even more if he has the "hot hand" relative to Priest and they pound the ball late in the game. After week 1, they've indicated that they'll have to play LJ more, especially if he has the "hot hand" -- 2 series for Priest, 1 for LJ, then lean on whoever's more effective.

Priest is a stud, but he turns 32 next month, and Vermiel wants to keep him healthy by not overworking him, especially when not necessary late in games that aren't close. He'll remain the starter while healthy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll always be the highest scoring fantasy RB on the team (as seen in week 1).
Well, Johnson has averaged less than 5 yards per carry his last 2 games, and his carries haven't really increased at all.
Bah, we were right, just like we knew we would be.But no reason to harp on it. Just be glad you knew what was going on, and saw through the facade.
I'm sure you guys were all over P Manning coming out of the gate slowly too?! I mean, PM can be had cheap right now, right? You could get him for Dilfer and a bag of chips!This is a long season, one which will have twists and turns week to week.

 
Keep living in denial, son and keep hoping that LJ gets more than his 9 carries a game.  True sharks know the situation, others think they do.
LJ would have had more carries if he hadn't done so well. You guys who keep harping on the fact that LJ only had 9 carries should realize that if he had averaged 5 ypc instead of 12+, he probably would have had twice as many carries. He was in as the RB for those series, and because he was so effective, it took fewer carries to cover the yards and get in the end zone.To assume that LJ will only max out at 9 carries a game after week 1 is silly. If he only gets 9 carries, it's because he's doing amzingly well like in game 1. He's much more likely to get 10-15, and maybe even more if he has the "hot hand" relative to Priest and they pound the ball late in the game. After week 1, they've indicated that they'll have to play LJ more, especially if he has the "hot hand" -- 2 series for Priest, 1 for LJ, then lean on whoever's more effective.

Priest is a stud, but he turns 32 next month, and Vermiel wants to keep him healthy by not overworking him, especially when not necessary late in games that aren't close. He'll remain the starter while healthy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll always be the highest scoring fantasy RB on the team (as seen in week 1).
Well, Johnson has averaged less than 5 yards per carry his last 2 games, and his carries haven't really increased at all.
Bah, we were right, just like we knew we would be.But no reason to harp on it. Just be glad you knew what was going on, and saw through the facade.
I'm sure you guys were all over P Manning coming out of the gate slowly too?! I mean, PM can be had cheap right now, right? You could get him for Dilfer and a bag of chips!This is a long season, one which will have twists and turns week to week.
Well, I wouldn't have ever drafted Manning in the first round. And I was all over Culpepper stinking up the joint this year.Some of us just know football better than others, I guess.

:boxing:

 
I'm sure you guys were all over P Manning coming out of the gate slowly too?! I mean, PM can be had cheap right now, right? You could get him for Dilfer and a bag of chips!

This is a long season, one which will have twists and turns week to week.
(Bitter LJ owner.)
 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Note the RED/BOLD part of this statement, for I believe it makes a differnece. And for the record, I prefer Priest in redraft leagues...but I do have both.
 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Note the RED/BOLD part of this statement, for I believe it makes a differnece. And for the record, I prefer Priest in redraft leagues...but I do have both.
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ??? I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.

 
What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?

"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!!  :rolleyes:
Honestly...You don't think the average owner values LJ less after he put up this kind of game?

If you don't...you're crazy. Absolutely nuts.

He's cheaper than he was last week. Deal. If, in your opinion, he shouldn't be, that's an argument you could make. But it doesn't change the fact that in the average Joe's mind, he will be.
Anyone could see that by the time LJ got into the game, the running game was out the window! Johnson had 1 carry, albeit for a fumble, before it was 17-0.What exactly did you think he was going to accomplish the balance of the game? What did Priest accomplish? He had nearly half of his rushing yards and all of his receiving yards with the game out of hand.

This was just a rough game for the Chiefs as a whole.

Like I said, dump LJ, dump P. Manning, you are a genius!

 
What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?

"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!!  :rolleyes:
Honestly...You don't think the average owner values LJ less after he put up this kind of game?

If you don't...you're crazy. Absolutely nuts.

He's cheaper than he was last week. Deal. If, in your opinion, he shouldn't be, that's an argument you could make. But it doesn't change the fact that in the average Joe's mind, he will be.
Anyone could see that by the time LJ got into the game, the running game was out the window! Johnson had 1 carry, albeit for a fumble, before it was 17-0.What exactly did you think he was going to accomplish the balance of the game? What did Priest accomplish? He had nearly half of his rushing yards and all of his receiving yards with the game out of hand.

This was just a rough game for the Chiefs as a whole.

Like I said, dump LJ, dump P. Manning, you are a genius!
Nobody ever said to dump them.You say LJ's only carries came when the running game had been shelved. LJ's fumble to give the Broncos a 17-0 lead helped shelve himself!!!! You can't use that as an excuse.

Yes, it was a rough game for the chiefs as a whole, but fantasy football doesn't take that into account. Even if they were garbage stats, they still count. And in today's game, Priest scored a respectable 12 points while LJ posted a horrible -1.

 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Note the RED/BOLD part of this statement, for I believe it makes a differnece. And for the record, I prefer Priest in redraft leagues...but I do have both.
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ??? I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
They lost a pro-bowl O tackle in Roaf! You don't think they'll try to acquire O Linemen in the offseason?Take Jeff Saturday or Tarik Glenn off the Colts and see what that does to the O.

Teams adjust and move on. Denver has, right?

 
Prior to this week, I turned down a filet mignon feast for LJ. After tonights game I'd be happy with a bag of Doritos.cool ranch

 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Note the RED/BOLD part of this statement, for I believe it makes a differnece. And for the record, I prefer Priest in redraft leagues...but I do have both.
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ??? I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
They lost a pro-bowl O tackle in Roaf! You don't think they'll try to acquire O Linemen in the offseason?Take Jeff Saturday or Tarik Glenn off the Colts and see what that does to the O.

Teams adjust and move on. Denver has, right?
Denver is a unique team with a history of producing great o-linemen. And they cheat, but thats for another thread.The chiefs have no such history.

 
What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?

"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!!  :rolleyes:
Honestly...You don't think the average owner values LJ less after he put up this kind of game?

If you don't...you're crazy. Absolutely nuts.

He's cheaper than he was last week. Deal. If, in your opinion, he shouldn't be, that's an argument you could make. But it doesn't change the fact that in the average Joe's mind, he will be.
Anyone could see that by the time LJ got into the game, the running game was out the window! Johnson had 1 carry, albeit for a fumble, before it was 17-0.What exactly did you think he was going to accomplish the balance of the game? What did Priest accomplish? He had nearly half of his rushing yards and all of his receiving yards with the game out of hand.

This was just a rough game for the Chiefs as a whole.

Like I said, dump LJ, dump P. Manning, you are a genius!
Nobody ever said to dump them.You say LJ's only carries came when the running game had been shelved. LJ's fumble to give the Broncos a 17-0 lead helped shelve himself!!!! You can't use that as an excuse.

Yes, it was a rough game for the chiefs as a whole, but fantasy football doesn't take that into account. Even if they were garbage stats, they still count. And in today's game, Priest scored a respectable 12 points while LJ posted a horrible -1.
It's not an excuse, it's a fact! He had exactly 1 carry before it was 17-0. ONE Carry!
 
What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?

"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!!  :rolleyes:
Honestly...You don't think the average owner values LJ less after he put up this kind of game?

If you don't...you're crazy. Absolutely nuts.

He's cheaper than he was last week. Deal. If, in your opinion, he shouldn't be, that's an argument you could make. But it doesn't change the fact that in the average Joe's mind, he will be.
Anyone could see that by the time LJ got into the game, the running game was out the window! Johnson had 1 carry, albeit for a fumble, before it was 17-0.What exactly did you think he was going to accomplish the balance of the game? What did Priest accomplish? He had nearly half of his rushing yards and all of his receiving yards with the game out of hand.

This was just a rough game for the Chiefs as a whole.

Like I said, dump LJ, dump P. Manning, you are a genius!
Nobody ever said to dump them.You say LJ's only carries came when the running game had been shelved. LJ's fumble to give the Broncos a 17-0 lead helped shelve himself!!!! You can't use that as an excuse.

Yes, it was a rough game for the chiefs as a whole, but fantasy football doesn't take that into account. Even if they were garbage stats, they still count. And in today's game, Priest scored a respectable 12 points while LJ posted a horrible -1.
It's not an excuse, it's a fact! He had exactly 1 carry before it was 17-0. ONE Carry!
He actually had 2. And had he not fumbled, he would have received more carries before it was 17-0.So, the fact that he fumbled to put the chiefs behind by 7 more points and force them to throw and not hand off to him, should be an excuse for his poor performance???

Are you seriously trying to imply that??? :lmao: :lmao:

 
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ??? I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well.

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.

 
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.

 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Note the RED/BOLD part of this statement, for I believe it makes a differnece. And for the record, I prefer Priest in redraft leagues...but I do have both.
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ??? I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
They lost a pro-bowl O tackle in Roaf! You don't think they'll try to acquire O Linemen in the offseason?Take Jeff Saturday or Tarik Glenn off the Colts and see what that does to the O.

Teams adjust and move on. Denver has, right?
Denver is a unique team with a history of producing great o-linemen. And they cheat, but thats for another thread.The chiefs have no such history.
To what history do you speak? Do you have short-term memory loss?
 
Come on SSOG, I normally agree with your posts, but not this time! All the guy is saying is that he thinks LJ's cost will only get higher. I don't see that as a bad assessment.

Can you get him cheap? NO! Now he is much cheaper

Can you move a CuMart or Dom Davis to get him? Maybe Definitely can now, but don't think you would want to

Could you move a couple of quality players to get him? Probably You can still do this now, if you enjoy losing

All of this is assuming the original poster is talking about a keeper or dynasty league.

For a re-draft, no, I wouldn't be moving CuMart for him. In dynasty, absolutely!

It is obvious that there are two camps out there in FF. One says Priest is still the man, and one says LJ is gaining playing time each game. Obvious which camp was correct here

So, if you can get LJ from one of the non-believers or "sharks" hoping to prey on your "over-exhuberance" or manlove for LJ, and move him a top 20 WR from your depth in a keeper or dynasty league, then I say to do it! Bet those of you with LJ wish you had followed this guy's advice 2 weeks ago

For every one bashing the original poster out there for this thinking, there is someone else out there looking to secure the better of the two backs going forward. Those of us with Priest have the better back

Just my $0.02.
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What an idiotic retort! This was week 3! LJ never had a chance in this game! Why not just add commentary play by play?"On that Play LJ could be had cheap" "Now, on that play, LJ would cost you SA"

LJ is no cheaper than he was last week. Keep up the insightful posts!!!! :rolleyes:
Note the RED/BOLD part of this statement, for I believe it makes a differnece. And for the record, I prefer Priest in redraft leagues...but I do have both.
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ??? I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
They lost a pro-bowl O tackle in Roaf! You don't think they'll try to acquire O Linemen in the offseason?Take Jeff Saturday or Tarik Glenn off the Colts and see what that does to the O.

Teams adjust and move on. Denver has, right?
Denver is a unique team with a history of producing great o-linemen. And they cheat, but thats for another thread.The chiefs have no such history.
To what history do you speak? Do you have short-term memory loss?
I talk of the history of Shanahan and Alex Gibbs creating good o-lines out of relative no-names in Shanahan's tenure there. My memory is fine.
 
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
 
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
Well, with the age of that o-lline, i don't know how long they will remain top 5. Virtually that entire offense is old. Holmes is old, Trent Green is old, Eddie Kennison is old, the entire o-line is old, Tony Gonzalez isn't young (not really old though), blocking TE Jason Dunn is old, blocking FB Tony Richardson is old. Vermeil is old too, and once he leaves, o-coordinator Al Saunders probably leaves too.I just wouldn't be that confident in Johnson's future. Sure, he's valuable, but he could easily be in an entirely new offense with many new teammates. I would be very uncertain about his future if I was a dynasty owner with him on my roster.

 
:no:

Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
No, he's saying that the Chiefs have NO history(like the last 4 years) of producing a great rushing game! :rolleyes: He knows of what he speaks! :no:

 
:no:

Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
No, he's saying that the Chiefs have NO history(like the last 4 years) of producing a great rushing game! :rolleyes: He knows of what he speaks! :no:
4 years doesn't make a history. Most of that offensive line has been intact for this rushing explosion the chiefs have had. Once Willie Roaf, Will Shields, Brian Waters et. al. retire, there is no guarantee that the o-line will be any good or the rushing game that goes with it.Contrast that with the Broncos that have had a dominant rushing game for about a decade now, during which the offensive line morphed quite a bit. I feel confident in saying they have a system in place while the Chiefs, I don't really know what to expect when those guys retire.

 
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
Well, with the age of that o-lline, i don't know how long they will remain top 5. Virtually that entire offense is old. Holmes is old, Trent Green is old, Eddie Kennison is old, the entire o-line is old, Tony Gonzalez isn't young (not really old though), blocking TE Jason Dunn is old, blocking FB Tony Richardson is old. Vermeil is old too, and once he leaves, o-coordinator Al Saunders probably leaves too.I just wouldn't be that confident in Johnson's future. Sure, he's valuable, but he could easily be in an entirely new offense with many new teammates. I would be very uncertain about his future if I was a dynasty owner with him on my roster.
My fault. When you stated (as I Reddened and Bolded in your quote above) that KC would still be a Top 5 rushing team, I assumed that you believed that. I must have misunderstood your intent.
 
:no:

Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
No, he's saying that the Chiefs have NO history(like the last 4 years) of producing a great rushing game! :rolleyes: He knows of what he speaks! :no:
4 years doesn't make a history. Most of that offensive line has been intact for this rushing explosion the chiefs have had. Once Willie Roaf, Will Shields, Brian Waters et. al. retire, there is no guarantee that the o-line will be any good or the rushing game that goes with it.Contrast that with the Broncos that have had a dominant rushing game for about a decade now, during which the offensive line morphed quite a bit. I feel confident in saying they have a system in place while the Chiefs, I don't really know what to expect when those guys retire.
Did you know that in those 4 short years, Priest Holmes has become the leading rusher in the HISTORY of the KC Chiefs!Seems like the Chiefs have been around a while? :confused: No?

 
Even in dynasty leagues, with the o-line looking much weaker now and LJ looking really bad against a porous Denver defense, would it really be advised to go all out to acquire LJ???  I understand you wouldn't want to trade him for Curtis Martin in dynasty because of age, but I think his percieved dynasty value has taken a great hit as well. 

This o-line just doesn't look very dominant anymore.
Where was all this talk of their O-line looking weaker when they were rushing for 160 yards a game?Where was all this talk of Denver's defense being porous when they held LaDanian Tomlinson, the best RB in the entire NFL, to under 3 yards per carry? Or when they held San Diego's offense, one of the best in the league, to 41 yards after halftime last week?

This game wasn't about how bad KC's offense was. This game was about how good Denver's defense, particularly its defensive line was.
The Raiders last week looked like a good defense against the Chiefs too.I'm not saying they will become a bad rushing team. Just that they won't be the powerhouse that they once were. They'll still be a top-5 rushing team, just not far-and-away the best.

Just my take.
So you are saying that the very near future undisputed RB for a Top 5 rushing team is not a good target to acquire in a keeper/dynasty league?
Well, with the age of that o-lline, i don't know how long they will remain top 5. Virtually that entire offense is old. Holmes is old, Trent Green is old, Eddie Kennison is old, the entire o-line is old, Tony Gonzalez isn't young (not really old though), blocking TE Jason Dunn is old, blocking FB Tony Richardson is old. Vermeil is old too, and once he leaves, o-coordinator Al Saunders probably leaves too.I just wouldn't be that confident in Johnson's future. Sure, he's valuable, but he could easily be in an entirely new offense with many new teammates. I would be very uncertain about his future if I was a dynasty owner with him on my roster.
My fault. When you stated (as I Reddened and Bolded in your quote above) that KC would still be a Top 5 rushing team, I assumed that you believed that. I must have misunderstood your intent.
This year I believe they will be. Future years, I really don't know. The team will be made of new players.
 
he's getting carries starting the game
8 carries for 13 yards :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Better get him now.....

Give it a rest already.....
Question for you:After Week 3 who has the most fantasy points?

A. Larry Johnson

B. Priest Holmes

:bye: Night
Answer: Priest HolmesPPR leagues, 6 points per TD, 1 point per 10 yards, -2 for fumbles:

Priest Holmes: 44 points

Larry Johnson: 34 points

Larry Johnson had a great week 1, a mediocre week 2, and a terrible week 3. Priest Holmes has been decent each week.

Keep pushing this and you will only further your status as a laughingstock.

:bye:
Just updating this for week 41 PPR, 6 points per TD, 1 point per 10 yards, -2 for fumbles

Priest Holmes

week 1: 15 points

week 2: 17 points

week 3: 12 points

week 4: 21 points

TOTAL: 65 points

Larry Johnson

week 1: 25 points

week 2: 10 points

week 3: -1 points

week 4: 1 point

TOTAL: 35 points

The shark move wouldn't have been to trade for him after week 1, clearly it was to trade him away. His value is shot now.

 
Just wanted to announce that, in the league where I once owned Priest but not LJ, I have just acquired him.The price? Alvin Pearman, Josh McCown, and Denver defense.Tell me he was that cheap after week 1. I was correct to wait.

 
Oct 3 Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders may end his current philosophy of using RB Priest Holmes for two series and RB Larry Johnson for one series. Saunders said, "We'll be discussing that. When you're caught up in the week-to-week preparation, sometimes you do things a little bit differently than you'd do if you're able to sit back and look at everything in depth. We're able to do that this week."

 
I hpe Priest does run it more.. Personally LJ isn't worth using like this.. The more touches Priest gets the more likely injury will follow.

 

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