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The only problem now is whether Fason enters the mix. If Tice continues to show an inability to stick with one RB then it could remain just as murky.For now, though, Bennett certainly gets a boost since he's the current starter. Moore is the guy who could really benefit here, however, so he has become a red-hot sleeper pick though he won't be able to fly under the radar as the No. 2 RB now compared to being the No. 3. Mo will continue to have value as the probable goal-line RB with Fason the darkhorse.Finally. Steal of the draft my a##, he will be forever known as Stoner of the draft so at least he can keep his nickname SOD.
At least this clears up the Vikings RB situation a little bit for us.![]()
If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.
No. Speculation rules this roost.Can we at least get some confirmation or abefore the swarms of people jump in with all of their speculation?
Not much of a leap of faith to speculate:A. Mr. Smith gets caught in the M-SP airport with WizzinatorCan we at least get some confirmation or abefore the swarms of people jump in with all of their speculation?
This sentence made me laugh outloud!!!!B. Mr. Smith was carrying Wizz and freeze dried wizz for a reason
Onterrio is a good kid. He'll bounce back.
I agree, not out of the question by any means and thanks for your enertaining post.Not much of a leap of faith to speculate:Can we at least get some confirmation or abefore the swarms of people jump in with all of their speculation?
Are there really kids who look up to Onterrio Smith?If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.
I'd be surprised if the suspension is from the NFL as well. I think you may be right about KFAN stirring the pot on this one. We'll know shortly.From my understanding just days ago an NFL league admin guy (not sure who it was) came out and said it was highly unlikely the NFL would count this as a 3rd strike since the device was not used in a testing situation. I really think KFAN is just stirring the pot and speculating on why O. Smith is not in the quaterbak camp.
A quote from someone on this board, "Tang for his Wang".This sentence made me laugh outloud!!!!B. Mr. Smith was carrying Wizz and freeze dried wizz for a reason![]()
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SOD doesn't get paid to send messages - he gets paid to run the rock. I agree that it's not a great message to send.If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.
That depends on whether Bam Morris or Nate Newton have kids, I suppose.Are there really kids who look up to Onterrio Smith?If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.
SOD doesn't get paid to send messages - he gets paid to run the rock. I agree that it's not a great message to send.If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.
This makes sense, SOD carrying around the Original Whizzinator pretty much was an admission of guilt, "random" drug test was sure to follow.Not much of a leap of faith to speculate:A. Mr. Smith gets caught in the M-SP airport with WizzinatorB. Mr. Smith was carrying Wizz and freeze dried wizz for a reasonC. Mr. Smith attends practice.D. After practice, NFL says, "Hey Mr. Smith, come pee in this cup for me."E. OMG it's got bud in it!F. 1-year to light up
I wouldn't. After that, I would have tested him. And you and I both know he would've failed that test.I'd be surprised if the suspension is from the NFL as well. I think you may be right about KFAN stirring the pot on this one. We'll know shortly.From my understanding just days ago an NFL league admin guy (not sure who it was) came out and said it was highly unlikely the NFL would count this as a 3rd strike since the device was not used in a testing situation. I really think KFAN is just stirring the pot and speculating on why O. Smith is not in the quaterbak camp.
Given the speculation though about this whole 'wizzenator' incident, while the NFL can't suspend him for that...al they have to do is show up with a cup in their hand and they could suspend Smith for the findings on that. Weed stays in the system a month so he was extremely vulnerable...I'd be surprised if the suspension is from the NFL as well. I think you may be right about KFAN stirring the pot on this one. We'll know shortly.From my understanding just days ago an NFL league admin guy (not sure who it was) came out and said it was highly unlikely the NFL would count this as a 3rd strike since the device was not used in a testing situation. I really think KFAN is just stirring the pot and speculating on why O. Smith is not in the quaterbak camp.
True.I wouldn't. After that, I would have tested him. And you and I both know he would've failed that test.I'd be surprised if the suspension is from the NFL as well. I think you may be right about KFAN stirring the pot on this one. We'll know shortly.From my understanding just days ago an NFL league admin guy (not sure who it was) came out and said it was highly unlikely the NFL would count this as a 3rd strike since the device was not used in a testing situation. I really think KFAN is just stirring the pot and speculating on why O. Smith is not in the quaterbak camp.
SOD doesn't get paid to send messages - he gets paid to run the rock. I agree that it's not a great message to send.If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.Every employee gets paid to maintain a certain image for his company.
Of course. But I would be surprised if being caught with a whizzinator warrants a year long suspension, even after SOD's two strikes. That's why I'm guessing it's a failed test. You think the players union would take a 1 year suspension for an item not on the NFL's banned substances list? Maybe there's a clause that stipulates that being caught with any type of device that could possibly be used to defraud the NFL testing system can be considered a strike, but that seems somewhat draconian to me.SOD doesn't get paid to send messages - he gets paid to run the rock. I agree that it's not a great message to send.If he fails a drug test then punish him. But if he is punished for trying to cheat on a drug test then sue? Great message you are sending there. I realize he has a big leg to stand on legally if it's because of the Whizzinator but still a lousy message to send to the kids that look up to this guy.....If SOD failed a drug test, he's an idiot, and should be banished for a year.
If this suspension has anything to do with the whizzinator, I hope he sues the NFL.Every employee gets paid to maintain a certain image for his company.
Yes, this is true... but there are no reports that the NFL has done this yet. Therefor, its still only specualtion.True.I wouldn't. After that, I would have tested him. And you and I both know he would've failed that test.I'd be surprised if the suspension is from the NFL as well. I think you may be right about KFAN stirring the pot on this one. We'll know shortly.From my understanding just days ago an NFL league admin guy (not sure who it was) came out and said it was highly unlikely the NFL would count this as a 3rd strike since the device was not used in a testing situation. I really think KFAN is just stirring the pot and speculating on why O. Smith is not in the quaterbak camp.
complete speculation - based on facts/data/logicNo worries jurb....I hope you don't have him, though.Yes, this is true... but there are no reports that the NFL has done this yet. Therefor, its still only specualtion.True.I wouldn't. After that, I would have tested him. And you and I both know he would've failed that test.I'd be surprised if the suspension is from the NFL as well. I think you may be right about KFAN stirring the pot on this one. We'll know shortly.From my understanding just days ago an NFL league admin guy (not sure who it was) came out and said it was highly unlikely the NFL would count this as a 3rd strike since the device was not used in a testing situation. I really think KFAN is just stirring the pot and speculating on why O. Smith is not in the quaterbak camp.
Vikings' Smith excused from team indefinitely
Mark Craig, Star Tribune
May 20, 2005 VIKE0520.ONLINE
Embattled Vikings running back Onterrio Smith missed his second developmental camp practice in three days today and has been excused from the team indefinitely because of a league matter, head coach Mike Tice said this afternoon.
"I really can't speak about any reasons why, or when he'll be back," Tice said after the last of this week's developmental practices at Winter Park. "It's in the league's hands, and we'll leave it at that."
Smith, a two-time offender of the league's substance abuse policy, was detained April 21 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with a kit designed to circumvent drug tests. The league launched an investigation May 18 after news of Smith's possession of the Original Whizzinator broke in the Star Tribune.
wait, isn't today May 19th?http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5412675.html
Vikings' Smith excused from team indefinitely
Mark Craig, Star Tribune
May 20, 2005 VIKE0520.ONLINE
Embattled Vikings running back Onterrio Smith missed his second developmental camp practice in three days today and has been excused from the team indefinitely because of a league matter, head coach Mike Tice said this afternoon.
"I really can't speak about any reasons why, or when he'll be back," Tice said after the last of this week's developmental practices at Winter Park. "It's in the league's hands, and we'll leave it at that."
Smith, a two-time offender of the league's substance abuse policy, was detained April 21 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with a kit designed to circumvent drug tests. The league launched an investigation May 18 after news of Smith's possession of the Original Whizzinator broke in the Star Tribune.
Why is this dated "May 20th?"http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5412675.html
Vikings' Smith excused from team indefinitely
Mark Craig, Star Tribune
May 20, 2005 VIKE0520.ONLINE
Embattled Vikings running back Onterrio Smith missed his second developmental camp practice in three days today and has been excused from the team indefinitely because of a league matter, head coach Mike Tice said this afternoon.
"I really can't speak about any reasons why, or when he'll be back," Tice said after the last of this week's developmental practices at Winter Park. "It's in the league's hands, and we'll leave it at that."
Smith, a two-time offender of the league's substance abuse policy, was detained April 21 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with a kit designed to circumvent drug tests. The league launched an investigation May 18 after news of Smith's possession of the Original Whizzinator broke in the Star Tribune.
Someone get Mark Craig on the phone so we can clear this up.Why is this dated "May 20th?"http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5412675.html
Vikings' Smith excused from team indefinitely
Mark Craig, Star Tribune
May 20, 2005 VIKE0520.ONLINE
Embattled Vikings running back Onterrio Smith missed his second developmental camp practice in three days today and has been excused from the team indefinitely because of a league matter, head coach Mike Tice said this afternoon.
"I really can't speak about any reasons why, or when he'll be back," Tice said after the last of this week's developmental practices at Winter Park. "It's in the league's hands, and we'll leave it at that."
Smith, a two-time offender of the league's substance abuse policy, was detained April 21 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with a kit designed to circumvent drug tests. The league launched an investigation May 18 after news of Smith's possession of the Original Whizzinator broke in the Star Tribune.
I doubt the Star Tribune is wrong about this. I put more faith in that newspaper than I do fanball.comNot So Fast
Vikings: Smith returns
by Fanball Staff - Fanball.com
Thursday, May 19, 2005
News
Vikings' running back Onterrio Smith returned to practice on Wednesday after missing the previous day for personal reasons. Smith continued his silence with the media, but offensive coordinator Steve Loney was complimentary of the third-year back. "I know it's a tough time for him, but he's remained focused in our meetings and in practice," Loney told the Star Tribune. "He had a nice run. He has to fight through whatever personal challenges he has." Smith has not spoken since he was detained by airport police, who found a kit designed to circumvent drug tests in his luggage.
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So much for conspiracy theories that suggested Onterrio's absence was caused by the league suspending him over the Whizzinator incident. The NFL is still investigating the matter, but it remains doubtful that Smith will be suspended since he was not caught in act of using the kit during an actual drug test.
That was posted earlier this morning. I think the newly posted news might be more relevant.Not So Fast
Vikings: Smith returns
by Fanball Staff - Fanball.com
Thursday, May 19, 2005
News
Vikings' running back Onterrio Smith returned to practice on Wednesday after missing the previous day for personal reasons. Smith continued his silence with the media, but offensive coordinator Steve Loney was complimentary of the third-year back. "I know it's a tough time for him, but he's remained focused in our meetings and in practice," Loney told the Star Tribune. "He had a nice run. He has to fight through whatever personal challenges he has." Smith has not spoken since he was detained by airport police, who found a kit designed to circumvent drug tests in his luggage.
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So much for conspiracy theories that suggested Onterrio's absence was caused by the league suspending him over the Whizzinator incident. The NFL is still investigating the matter, but it remains doubtful that Smith will be suspended since he was not caught in act of using the kit during an actual drug test.
He apparently went to the Mitch Albom school of JournalismSomeone get Mark Craig on the phone so we can clear this up.Why is this dated "May 20th?"http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5412675.html
Vikings' Smith excused from team indefinitely
Mark Craig, Star Tribune
May 20, 2005 VIKE0520.ONLINE
Embattled Vikings running back Onterrio Smith missed his second developmental camp practice in three days today and has been excused from the team indefinitely because of a league matter, head coach Mike Tice said this afternoon.
"I really can't speak about any reasons why, or when he'll be back," Tice said after the last of this week's developmental practices at Winter Park. "It's in the league's hands, and we'll leave it at that."
Smith, a two-time offender of the league's substance abuse policy, was detained April 21 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with a kit designed to circumvent drug tests. The league launched an investigation May 18 after news of Smith's possession of the Original Whizzinator broke in the Star Tribune.