Opposing WR2 v. Carolina (1 Viewer)

[BassNBrew]

Opportunity some my not have noticed.

wk 1 - Mike Williams - 2-12-1. Clark 1-33-0. VJax 4-47-0.

wk 2 - Hard to say who the WR2 is here. For the purposes of this conversation I'll say Moore who had 2-30. If you feel like Graham is the better fit then 7-71-1 was a good out come. Sporles also had 13-128-0. WR1 Colsten 3-49-0.

wk 3 - Barden - 9-138-0. TE Bennet racked up 6-73-1. Cruz 6-42

wk 4 - White - 8-169-2. TE Gonzo had 5-51. Jones 1-30.

wk 5 - Tate - 3-31-1. TE Miller 3-59. Rice 5-67-0.

wk 7 - Austin - 5-97-1. TE Witten 6-44. Bryant 2-14.

All totaled thru six games...

WR1 - 3.5 - 41.5 - 0 or 7.7 ppr ppg

WR2 - 4.8 - 98 - .83 or 19.6 ppr ppg

TE1 - 4.7 - 55.2 - .33 or 12.2 ppr ppg

Not sure if you would consider Hester the WR2 in Chicago. But he and Davis might be sneaky starts. I'm not going to say to pass on Marshall this week as Cutler is locked onto him, but keep this trend in mind when looking at teams with multiple receiving options and a QB that doesn't have eyes for one guy.

 

[FDC]

I am guessing this trend stops soon with Gamble out.

FWIW Last year Forte torched Carolina and Chicago didn't throw much.

 

[rocketsauce]

This data is basically worthless. You're calling Roddy White the Falcons WR2. If you call Julio the WR2 (as I would), your strong data takes a huge hit. You're also calling Austin the WR2 I assume? I'd also consider him the 1, and far more dependable.

Here's a more acurate thread:

Someone usually has a nice game v Carolina. Someone doesn't. It does look like your TE should be good for a handful of catches in most offenses though.

 

[solorca]

This data is basically worthless. You're calling Roddy White the Falcons WR2. If you call Julio the WR2 (as I would), your strong data takes a huge hit. You're also calling Austin the WR2 I assume? I'd also consider him the 1, and far more dependable.

It's not about who is actually the WR1, it's about who Carolina's defense identifies as the #1. Chris Gamble was on Julio Jones in the Atlanta game, and they rolled extra coverage on Bryant in the Dallas game.With Gamble out, everything is up in the air...but BassNBrew's point is valid about the WR2 production. It's actually been the case for a number of years now, as the #1 receiver usually struggles against Carolina, while the #2 has a productive game.

 

[rocketsauce]

I see your point, but unless we can know prior to the game who Gamble is on (or would be on, seeing as how he's out) then we still can't use this information to make any real decisions. Did we know he'd be on Julio all game prior to that game? I would say no.

 

[solorca]

I see your point, but unless we can know prior to the game who Gamble is on (or would be on, seeing as how he's out) then we still can't use this information to make any real decisions. Did we know he'd be on Julio all game prior to that game? I would say no.

I did. I posted about it in a few threads, in fact.Carolina typically puts the extra coverage on the more dynamic, big play guy (when there are two legitimate top options). Julio and Dez fit that bill. There really aren't a ton of NFL teams that has a WR1A/WR1B situation anyway. O

 

[FDC]

I see your point, but unless we can know prior to the game who Gamble is on (or would be on, seeing as how he's out) then we still can't use this information to make any real decisions. Did we know he'd be on Julio all game prior to that game? I would say no.

Nope we didn't and in retrospect it was a bad decision IMOLet unproven guys like Julio and Dez beat you. Not Roddy/Austin

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I am guessing this trend stops soon with Gamble out.FWIW Last year Forte torched Carolina and Chicago didn't throw much.

Kinda feeds the op. Not much of a stretch to say that forte is the wr2 on the bears, especially with Jeffrey out.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Great thread BTW. Nice to see someone actually thinking about an angle rather than the counless "Donnie avery is gonna blow up this weekend 120 and 2tds. I just have a feeling." Threads...

 

[FDC]

I am guessing this trend stops soon with Gamble out.FWIW Last year Forte torched Carolina and Chicago didn't throw much.

Kinda feeds the op. Not much of a stretch to say that forte is the wr2 on the bears, especially with Jeffrey out.

Not sure how that works out though this year. Kuechly's strength is sniffing out the RB screen game.

 

[buck naked]

Agree, this information is useless (at least this week), because Hester is useless. For three years people have said he will break out, but he never does.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

This data is basically worthless. You're calling Roddy White the Falcons WR2. If you call Julio the WR2 (as I would), your strong data takes a huge hit. You're also calling Austin the WR2 I assume? I'd also consider him the 1, and far more dependable. Here's a more acurate thread:Someone usually has a nice game v Carolina. Someone doesn't. It does look like your TE should be good for a handful of catches in most offenses though.

Its not a math formula. The CAR D is pretty bad, with not many true play makers. They dont scheme very well. Could be that they can only do so much. Like try and top the run and then try and shut down who thy perieve to be the biggest threat (is Julio over Roddy) kind of like an inability to multitask.It may well be that the teams stud, and likely the defensive focus of this rather simplistic/below average coaching staff doesn't get his. If you can figure out who the second or third reads are vs CAR,it seems o be out a bad direction to go.

 

[solorca]

This data is basically worthless. You're calling Roddy White the Falcons WR2. If you call Julio the WR2 (as I would), your strong data takes a huge hit. You're also calling Austin the WR2 I assume? I'd also consider him the 1, and far more dependable. Here's a more acurate thread:Someone usually has a nice game v Carolina. Someone doesn't. It does look like your TE should be good for a handful of catches in most offenses though.

Its not a math formula. The CAR D is pretty bad, with not many true play makers. They dont scheme very well. Could be that they can only do so much. Like try and top the run and then try and shut down who thy perieve to be the biggest threat (is Julio over Roddy) kind of like an inability to multitask.It may well be that the teams stud, and likely the defensive focus of this rather simplistic/below average coaching staff doesn't get his. If you can figure out who the second or third reads are vs CAR,it seems o be out a bad direction to go.

Bingo. Carolina has a history of getting destroyed by backups, secondary options, underperformers, etc. It's kind of the way it's always been, even going back into the John Fox era. It's rarely the stars that destroy Carolina, it's the guys who no one (other than Panthers fans) expect.

 

[BassNBrew]

This data is basically worthless. You're calling Roddy White the Falcons WR2. If you call Julio the WR2 (as I would), your strong data takes a huge hit. You're also calling Austin the WR2 I assume? I'd also consider him the 1, and far more dependable. Here's a more acurate thread:Someone usually has a nice game v Carolina. Someone doesn't. It does look like your TE should be good for a handful of catches in most offenses though.

The masses here thought Julio was WR1. I did too and loaded up on White in the Fanduel contests. This week I was all over Austin. Maybe luck or maybe on on the same guy Carolina perceives as the WR1.Bottom line is that when it plays out week after week you should at least give some thought to it.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

it's been mentioned, but gamble's out now, so I don't see any reason the already crummy car defense shouldn't just get crummier, and you should start all your players against them.

if there was an angle where hester would produce, it'd be something like chris houston on marshall, with detroit's 4th corner on hester.