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Orange is the New Black - Netflix series (1 Viewer)

I'm on episode 3, picking up. The new little Asian has quite the body on her ;)
I love the development of Piper, and Soso really puts that on display.

She also gave Nicky a chance to really remind us why she's all kinds of awesome.

I think Schilling's chance to rule the Best Actress Emmy category might've passed with the emergence of Tatiana Maslany, but one of those two broads should be taking home that trophy for the next 4-5 straight years.

 
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Just finished Episode 3

Prison is Gluten

And I actually believed Chapman's bad ### speech to Soso. Last season if she made that speech everybody would have :lmao: :lmao: . Now she is a toughened criminal

 
So, Piper beats the living hell out Pennsatucky, yet the only damage done was to her teeth? Okay. :lol:

Oh, and Taryn Manning is still ugly as ####, even with her normal teeth.

 
they couldn't even afford a radiator but they can afford oral surgery? How did the counselor get that approved?

My problem with episode 2
 
So, Piper beats the living hell out Pennsatucky, yet the only damage done was to her teeth? Okay. :lol:

Oh, and Taryn Manning is still ugly as ####, even with her normal teeth.
They ugly her up. In real live, she is not bad

And it was over a month between the beating and when we saw her next. the bruises to the face would have healed
That kind of beating to the face would leave bruises, scars, etc. that would never totally heal right/go away.

In real life, she is still pretty ugly. No thanks.

 
Oh, and Lori Petty is not aging well. Okay, she was never really attractive (unless whining throughout all of A League of Their Own is attractive), but she looks dreadful now. Sure, she was uglied up for the show, her being a new inmate, but still, oof.

 
Episode 4 done.

Brook :lmao: You were going to pimp me out!

Boo: Yeah Chapman you are a horrible person

And I do not like Vee at all. She is a master manipulator and a snake in the grass

 
Episode 6 has been my favorite so far:

Both Vee and Red are working the contraband angle

Brook's insane theory on Ferris Bueller and then the nun telling her to #### :lmao:

Bennett realizing he is over his head

Crazy Eyes confronting then comforting Morello about not being with Christopher and then when they hug, she sniffs her hair :o :lol:

And finally the final shot of Jimmy sitting on the barstool watching the band :lmao: and Caputo's reaction :shock:

 
Two episodes to go. Spoiler speculation or hoping

I really hope Red convinces Boo to take out both Crazy Eyes and Vee. Esp. Vee, she is such an awful person
 
Made it through all but the last episode over the weekend...

Good but not great. Certain aspects of the story are getting a bit convoluted. Doing a decent job of keeping "time" straight with all the jumping around they're doing.

 
Made it through all but the last episode over the weekend...

Good but not great. Certain aspects of the story are getting a bit convoluted. Doing a decent job of keeping "time" straight with all the jumping around they're doing.
I was surprised at how little time elapsed during that season. The ugly pregnant chick is still hardly showing.

 
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Made it through all but the last episode over the weekend...

Good but not great. Certain aspects of the story are getting a bit convoluted. Doing a decent job of keeping "time" straight with all the jumping around they're doing.
I was surprised at how little time elapsed during that season. The ugly pregnant chick is still hardly showing.
I've still got another episode to go, but Piper said she's got another 8 months on her sentence, so only 7 months have passed from the pilot to the end of S2 (assuming no big time jump in the finale).

Actually, almost all of S2 probably took place in Feb/March. S1 ended around Christmas, then Piper spent 3-4 weeks in solitary. Valentine's Day was about mid-season and the final season arc involves a winter storm.

They could squeeze 2-3 more seasons in without having to extend Piper's sentence or move forward with the show after her release (though I kind of get the feeling they'd try the latter).

 
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Made it through all but the last episode over the weekend...

Good but not great. Certain aspects of the story are getting a bit convoluted. Doing a decent job of keeping "time" straight with all the jumping around they're doing.
I was surprised at how little time elapsed during that season. The ugly pregnant chick is still hardly showing.
I've still got another episode to go, but Piper said she's got another 8 months on her sentence, so only 7 months have passed from the pilot to the end of S2 (assuming no big time jump in the finale).

Actually, almost all of S2 probably took place in Feb/March. S1 ended around Christmas, then Piper spent 3-4 weeks in solitary. Valentine's Day was about mid-season and the final season arc involves a winter storm.

They could squeeze 2-3 more seasons in without having to extend Piper's sentence or move forward with the show after her release (though I kind of get the feeling they'd try the latter).
Wasn't Piper supposed to take a drug test after her furlough? And wouldn't there be retribution for the alcohol?
 
I think I'm through episode 6 and don't like this season as much.

The Latinos vs Blacks is the only real story line going on so far and everything that culminated in season 1 seemed a little too easily dismissed. There's no "heart" to this season.

 
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Made it through all but the last episode over the weekend...

Good but not great. Certain aspects of the story are getting a bit convoluted. Doing a decent job of keeping "time" straight with all the jumping around they're doing.
I was surprised at how little time elapsed during that season. The ugly pregnant chick is still hardly showing.
I've still got another episode to go, but Piper said she's got another 8 months on her sentence, so only 7 months have passed from the pilot to the end of S2 (assuming no big time jump in the finale).

Actually, almost all of S2 probably took place in Feb/March. S1 ended around Christmas, then Piper spent 3-4 weeks in solitary. Valentine's Day was about mid-season and the final season arc involves a winter storm.

They could squeeze 2-3 more seasons in without having to extend Piper's sentence or move forward with the show after her release (though I kind of get the feeling they'd try the latter).
Wasn't Piper supposed to take a drug test after her furlough? And wouldn't there be retribution for the alcohol?
Not to mention the purjury during the Kubra trial, I don't remember her being punished for that?
 
Finished it up. I enjoyed S2 more or less as much as S1.

The Tucky/Boo scene in Ep 12 is great.

I know this isn't a very popular opinion, but I don't think it had quite enough Piper.

Fans and critics love the show because it tells the story of so many people that don't look like Piper.

Seems like a lot of the fans and critics seem to underrate and even dislike Piper because of this. Almost like fans of a band resenting the bands big commercial hits.

Problem is that Schilling is an amazing actress, and to me, Chapman is the most interesting and important character on the show. She's a worthy lead for a show that doesn't want to think of itself as having a blonde, white lead.

I'm pretty conflicted the whole Vee arc. She was a great character, and the more intense conflict was good for the show (probably necessary, really, as a show about prison was starting to feel too much like summer camp).

But I really thought it was a disservice to Taystee, Cindy, the track chick, and Suzanne. They seemed to turn them all into mindless zombies just to serve the plot.

I know I'm alone here, but I actually like the Polly/Larry thing.

Polly is a good character that's been underused. Putting them together immediately made both characters more interesting and gave them something to do.

The scenes that followed, were among the best of the season. Especially, the scene with Polly/Larry asking for Piper's blessing.

It gives some good scenes and gives them something to do. Good enough for me. It's not like a guy banging his ex's best friend is so far fetched. Espeically, if the ex is in prison and now munching her ex-GF's box
 
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After four episodes, I am not sure what to think so far. I was amused by the pee hole storyline in Ep 4 :lol: , but where is the continuity?

-Piper has been back for two episodes and no scene with Healey yet.

-The pregnant chick and the security guard having a baby together has barely been a factor. No mention of Porn Stache.

-Piper and Pennsatucky have had zero interaction since their fake hug. In fact, not that I like looking at her, but how has Pennsatucky been such a non-factor?

It's like they've put all of the stories that were hot at the end of last season on the backburner and introduced a whole bunch of less interesting ones. And not nearly enough focus on Piper. Season 1 had a great balance where the story always centered around her while we still got to know plenty of others, but now it's like she is just another inmate, as opposed to the main character. Strange.

 
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Second to last episode

You almost start to feel sympathy for Fig

Almost,

but then you remember that scrawny ###, hooked nosed, Scarecrow does not deserve ANY sympathy.

 
After four episodes, I am not sure what to think so far. I was amused by the pee hole storyline in Ep 4 :lol: , but where is the continuity?

-Piper has been back for two episodes and no scene with Healey yet.

-The pregnant chick and the security guard having a baby together has barely been a factor. No mention of Porn Stache.

-Piper and Pennsatucky have had zero interaction since their fake hug. In fact, not that I like looking at her, but how has Pennsatucky been such a non-factor?

It's like they've put all of the stories that were hot at the end of last season on the backburner and introduced a whole bunch of less interesting ones. And not nearly enough focus on Piper. Season 1 had a great balance where the story always centered around her while we still got to know plenty of others, but now it's like she is just another inmate, as opposed to the main character. Strange.
Most of that stuff will be addressed. I think they wanted to focus on introducing new stories first, so it does seem a little out of whack. It works though I think.

I agree about Piper.

 
Finished it up. I enjoyed S2 more or less as much as S1.

The Tucky/Boo scene in Ep 12 is great.

I know this isn't a very popular opinion, but I don't think it had quite enough Piper.

Fans and critics love the show because it tells the story of so many people that don't look like Piper.

Seems like a lot of the fans and critics seem to underrate and even dislike Piper because of this. Almost like fans of a band resenting the bands big commercial hits.

Problem is that Schilling is an amazing actress, and to me, Chapman is the most interesting and important character on the show. She's a worthy lead for a show that doesn't want to think of itself as having a blonde, white lead.

I'm pretty conflicted the whole Vee arc. She was a great character, and the more intense conflict was good for the show (probably necessary, really, as a show about prison was starting to feel too much like summer camp).

But I really thought it was a disservice to Taystee, Cindy, the track chick, and Suzanne. They seemed to turn them all into mindless zombies just to serve the plot.

I know I'm alone here, but I actually like the Polly/Larry thing.

Polly is a good character that's been underused. Putting them together immediately made both characters more interesting and gave them something to do.

The scenes that followed, were among the best of the season. Especially, the scene with Polly/Larry asking for Piper's blessing.

It gives some good scenes and gives them something to do. Good enough for me. It's not like a guy banging his ex's best friend is so far fetched. Espeically, if the ex is in prison and now munching her ex-GF's box
Yeah, Season 3 will probably more about Piper

 
Finished it up. I enjoyed S2 more or less as much as S1.

The Tucky/Boo scene in Ep 12 is great.

I know this isn't a very popular opinion, but I don't think it had quite enough Piper.

Fans and critics love the show because it tells the story of so many people that don't look like Piper.

Seems like a lot of the fans and critics seem to underrate and even dislike Piper because of this. Almost like fans of a band resenting the bands big commercial hits.

Problem is that Schilling is an amazing actress, and to me, Chapman is the most interesting and important character on the show. She's a worthy lead for a show that doesn't want to think of itself as having a blonde, white lead.

I'm pretty conflicted the whole Vee arc. She was a great character, and the more intense conflict was good for the show (probably necessary, really, as a show about prison was starting to feel too much like summer camp).

But I really thought it was a disservice to Taystee, Cindy, the track chick, and Suzanne. They seemed to turn them all into mindless zombies just to serve the plot.

I know I'm alone here, but I actually like the Polly/Larry thing.

Polly is a good character that's been underused. Putting them together immediately made both characters more interesting and gave them something to do.

The scenes that followed, were among the best of the season. Especially, the scene with Polly/Larry asking for Piper's blessing.

It gives some good scenes and gives them something to do. Good enough for me. It's not like a guy banging his ex's best friend is so far fetched. Espeically, if the ex is in prison and now munching her ex-GF's box
Yeah, Season 3 will probably more about PiperPepron's limited availability could've had a lot do with it. I assume she'll be around more next season.

 
Shows not bad, not great just kindof meh. I have a feeling that this will turn into one of those shows that started on a good premise but just becomes tired and played out after a few seasons.

 
Yea my wife is really into so I try to watch but it's boring me to death. First half of season 1 was really good but then it lost steam.

Would've been an amazing one-season show.

 
Anybody else find themselves comparing this to weeds. Think it could last as many seasons?
The similarities are certainly there. For the most part, it seems to take a lot of what did work on Weeds (which was significant, even if the show went downhill) and simply incorporate more interesting characters. Makes for a very good show and a lot better than Weeds, I think.

9 seasons of Orange could be a lot, but it's certainly possible. Kohan has said she could go on forever with this. That made a lot of people groan, but this show has the foundation to pull it off very well.

It'll be interesting to see if they could retain Schilling for that long. Unlike MLP, who was almost 40 when Weeds started and about 15 years removed from her most famous role, you'd think Schilling would be looking to turn this role into a springboard for bigger things.

Though, I think the best roles for women (not named Scarlett Johanson or Jennifer Lawrence) are largely in TV instead of movies, so who knows.

 
First interview with the "real life Alex" http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/orange-is-the-new-black-real-alex?mbid=social_twitter

They only spent 5 weeks in the same prison in Chicago waiting to testify (didn't have sex).

Piper was already an out lesbian when they met, shortly after Piper graduated college. They didn't start banging until after Piper had already gotten involved with the drug ring. Real life Alex didn't consider it a relationship, but Piper did.

 
First interview with the "real life Alex" http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/orange-is-the-new-black-real-alex?mbid=social_twitter

They only spent 5 weeks in the same prison in Chicago waiting to testify (didn't have sex).

Piper was already an out lesbian when they met, shortly after Piper graduated college. They didn't start banging until after Piper had already gotten involved with the drug ring. Real life Alex didn't consider it a relationship, but Piper did.
The show departed from the book about half way through the first episode of the first season.

 
pollardsvision said:
TenTimes said:
Anybody else find themselves comparing this to weeds. Think it could last as many seasons?
The similarities are certainly there. For the most part, it seems to take a lot of what did work on Weeds (which was significant, even if the show went downhill) and simply incorporate more interesting characters. Makes for a very good show and a lot better than Weeds, I think.

9 seasons of Orange could be a lot, but it's certainly possible. Kohan has said she could go on forever with this. That made a lot of people groan, but this show has the foundation to pull it off very well.

It'll be interesting to see if they could retain Schilling for that long. Unlike MLP, who was almost 40 when Weeds started and about 15 years removed from her most famous role, you'd think Schilling would be looking to turn this role into a springboard for bigger things.

Though, I think the best roles for women (not named Scarlett Johanson or Jennifer Lawrence) are largely in TV instead of movies, so who knows.
Unless I'm remembering wrong S1 was all about Piper, whereas if you'd seen only S2 you'd swear this was a show about prison life in general and Piper was just a part of it. She wasn't even the main storyline (Vee vs. Red), and they spent a lot of time on the Rosa (unfunded cancer) storyline.

Was wondering if they were steering this in to a show about prison itself with revolving characters rather than squeezing everything they can out of the Piper storyline and then calling it a series. I think there's a lot of potential here.

 
pollardsvision said:
TenTimes said:
Anybody else find themselves comparing this to weeds. Think it could last as many seasons?
The similarities are certainly there. For the most part, it seems to take a lot of what did work on Weeds (which was significant, even if the show went downhill) and simply incorporate more interesting characters. Makes for a very good show and a lot better than Weeds, I think.

9 seasons of Orange could be a lot, but it's certainly possible. Kohan has said she could go on forever with this. That made a lot of people groan, but this show has the foundation to pull it off very well.

It'll be interesting to see if they could retain Schilling for that long. Unlike MLP, who was almost 40 when Weeds started and about 15 years removed from her most famous role, you'd think Schilling would be looking to turn this role into a springboard for bigger things.

Though, I think the best roles for women (not named Scarlett Johanson or Jennifer Lawrence) are largely in TV instead of movies, so who knows.
Unless I'm remembering wrong S1 was all about Piper, whereas if you'd seen only S2 you'd swear this was a show about prison life in general and Piper was just a part of it. She wasn't even the main storyline (Vee vs. Red), and they spent a lot of time on the Rosa (unfunded cancer) storyline.

Was wondering if they were steering this in to a show about prison itself with revolving characters rather than squeezing everything they can out of the Piper storyline and then calling it a series. I think there's a lot of potential here.
I think that's right, and they were heading that way in S1.

I only mention that about Schilling because, while nothing would really shock me, I wouldn't guess they'd continue the show without her. She's not a Jack Bauer/Nancy Botwin sort of lead, but she's not a McNulty type of lead either. It's a deep ensemble, but the still show needs Piper to be as good.

 
Its an OK show. I get tired of the flashbacks - particularly when the inmates were kids. They are all the same story - good kid, found themselves in bad situation, ended up in jail/system. Only so many different ways you can tell that story - its been done before in Oz.

I'm only through episode 3 of this season, I'll see it out, but its not must-see-tv by any stretch.

 

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