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The sale of drugs will still be illegal. IMO, the title is misleading because it makes it seem like people are free to do what they want.
I don't think you are familiar with the word "decrimnalized" in this context.. Nothing you are saying is surprising if you are familiar with the term.
I want to put love, like, and thanks on this. The war on drugs is bad for everyone. It clearly hasn't stopped drug use. It costs a ridiculous amount. It gives us a huge unsustainable prison population. It empowers criminal organizations. I could go on.
I have. It can be an ugly and tragic downward spiral. Decriminalization does not disregard this. It is not an endorsement for the use of these drugs. It is acknowledging that the way we have been trying to combat the problem is not effective. It represents a shift in thinking to treat the problem in another, hopefully more effective way.
I dealt with a meth problem when I was a teenager. 100% support this measure.
I like and respect you, especially as a fellow Oregonian. I tend to be a dinosaur, and lean toward seahawk's post above. Can you help me understand how this could be effective? I ask sincerely, no snark intended.
Raising a family is way more about what happens in the home than what happens in the society around the home. My son and his friends know that drugs are very much a stupid idea. They aren't perfect, but they are good students, good citizens, respectful, and kind to others. The rioters in Portland and the drug dealers muling meth on our highways can't change that.
I am not sure if this is directed towards me or CR69. I'll assume him since I am not from Oregon. But I'll chime in since I was part of the nested quote. To be honest, I am not sure if it can be effective. It depends what programs are in place or created to replace the current criminalization process. Perhaps funds can be redirected towards education, prevention and treatment programs rather than towards prisons. Give people a means of turning their situation around rather than hardening them behind prison walls. I do not claim to have the answers, but the drug problems in this country haven't exactly gotten better with the ways we currently handle them. Is it worth a shot to try a different approach? I think so. But if you simply decriminalize and do nothing else, then I suspect the outcome would not be positive. I think it is more about reallocating resources, not just eliminating consequences.
They're reallocating the funds from tax revenues for marijuana and moving into rehabilitation programs.
While I applaud Oregon becoming a test state (this is why we are a collection of states) I don't think this will end well for Oregon or Oregonians. I expect we'll see massive explosion of open air drug use in population centers. That's just me though. Who knows - maybe it will work.
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100% that has been true with marijuana being legalized, even though it's not supposed to happen. The cops obviously don't have time to check everyone's cigarettes in the park to see if they are pot or cloves. Don't particularly like the idea of public narcotics use.
I've dealt with addiction stuff and absolutely agree on what's needed to recover. VERY skeptical our state government will do one thing to make that even available, let alone mandatory for addicts.
It definitely all hinges on the execution but I’ll wait to see how things go. I would say I’m optimistic and if they do it right it will be much better than the current system. I honestly don’t see how it could be worse though. It’s not like people are going to line up to do meth now that it’s a fine and not jail time.
I am really thinking about writing a whole essay and posting about what a hell hole PDX has become. Post's like this don't help.Cool. Don't move here.
You are free to your own opinion. If you think Portland is a hell hole, avoid it. Some of us like it here. Some of us voted for the measures just passed. I haven't attacked your positions or posts or opinions so kindly extend me the same courtesy.
Yep, the law hasn't done anything to stop the problem. I definitely agree with a new approach to this.
Yep, this is the part where I'm more fully on board, and agree it's a health issue. While I admit I'm a dinosaur and legalized drugs make me uncomfortable, focusing on helping these folks I can fully get behind. Just hope the state does so.
Used to live across the river in Vancouver WA two decades ago. Worked/traveled all around Portland area at that time.
I know you like constant rain and all, but could your username belie your true moodYeah, traffic is bad. BUT.....you don't have to sit in it. I use the WES Train almost every day and avoid the daily traffic jams. Many other folks can use the MAX Light Rail. It isn't mandatory to use a car here. You can also bike - plenty of bike lanes and one of friendliest cities in the nation for bikers.
Homelessness is a huge problem, one that our current mayor has failed massively to address. Slowly, there are affordable housing options coming, but this problem was allowed to manifest for far too long and it's an eyesore. However, I don't think Seattle or San Francisco or other cities on the west coast are faring any better. This is a national problem and not one relegated to Portland.
Rain? Please. This is the best weather in the country and I'll fight anybody who says otherwise. Rarely above 100 degrees, rarely below freezing but we complain about a little rain? I LOVE THE RAIN. Keeps things green year round. I like the vibrant colors of vegetation given to us by the rainfall. You want brown frown? Move to Colorado.
Housing prices are higher than they used to be, but I'm not sure you're going to find affordable housing in San Diego, LA, The Bay Area or Seattle....not sure why Portland is getting singled out. As a homeowner for 20 years, I'm quite pleased with the results, but I'm weird. I like making money.
Yeah, maybe!I know you like constant rain and all, but could your username belie your true mood
Have a friend who suffers from depression that is very interested in this. Are there any resources yet for finding trials or therapists who are willing to use psilocybin in treatment? For the best results, a guided talk therapy seems to be the best way to use them medicinally for depression (instead of just randomly microdosing at home)We also look to be approving the use of psilocybin mushrooms for medical use. Oregon is the best
The #1 poster on this board was a heavy meth user.
It’s still super early for that but there was a study just released this week about psilocybin and depression that he might be interested in. I imagine we’re looking at 6-12 months before the guidelines are in place and facilities are licensed.
Meh..Like any state, good parts and bad parts.
