Rayderr
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like the death of Osama.
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Osama Bin Laden DEAD (MERGED THREAD) (1 Viewer)
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ceo3west
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Agreed. I am glad we finally got him but have no desire to celebrate it. I'll celebrate when we're finally out of Afghanistan & Iraq...IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. Atype response if you will. But I understand the celebration, though I don't really understand the audience celebrating. I get the soldiers, military etc. I understand those that lost loved ones in the tragedy. The rest, not so much. I for one am glad this chapter is closed, but I'm not jumping up and down out in the streets over it.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Your posts are among the worst in all the OBL threads.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
So how long until Pakistan catches some flack? Or do they? We've believed for quite a long time that he was in Pakistan, but really only got token support from the Pakis (and once we increased Predator drone attracks under Obama even that support started to dry up).
And now it turns out that he's been there the entire time and living in a huge mansion just 30 miles from the capital for the last 5 years? It was one thing when we thought he was in the mountains. But in a mansion in the middle of a city? Seems like Pakistan should have been able to help us find him sooner.
And now it turns out that he's been there the entire time and living in a huge mansion just 30 miles from the capital for the last 5 years? It was one thing when we thought he was in the mountains. But in a mansion in the middle of a city? Seems like Pakistan should have been able to help us find him sooner.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Are you sure? I think Clinton could have prevented Bush or Obama ever being involved but let Bin Laden go several times.Clinton started going after Bin Laden during his years in office and Obama finished the job. Clearly Bush didn't take Bin Laden as serious as Clinton and Obama.Great job Obama
He didnt do ####..
RBM
Footballguy
NoWhy creepy?
The Commish
Footballguy
I thought it was terrific also. You're missing my point. Just felt the "party in the streets" like they did when the WTC was brought down brings us down to their level a little bit IMO. That's all.Americans haven't had much to cheer about lately. Who can blame people for celebrating good news for a change? I thought it was terrific.IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. A
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Agree!Americans haven't had much to cheer about lately. Who can blame people for celebrating good news for a change? I thought it was terrific.IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. A
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
You've got to figure this is hugely damaging for US-Pakistan relations. It's going to be really tough for both countries to look the other way and not see what happened here.
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Insoxicated
Wow. IF you can't laugh at that, during a time like this.... I would hate to be you.
The Commish
Footballguy
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
President Obama essentially took the information that was gathered by others, presented to him with numerous suggestions by others and then made a decision to go one way or the other. Thankfully President Obama made the right decision where as the last two Presidents did not. So a bunch of posters on this board will not give Obama any credit because he did not do any thing on the field in their eyes except for say "Do it".Do you really find this to be a fair analogy?People never cheer the owner of the team, the cheer the players and the coach.You really sound quite foolish.Great job Obama
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
A time like what?Most people are pretty happy and chipper about the whole thing right now. But obviously from your posts, you are not.Wow. IF you can't laugh at that, during a time like this.... I would hate to be you.
timschochet
Footballguy
They were celebrating the deaths of thousands of innocent people. We were celebrating the death of one incredibly evil man. I don't see any equivalency.I thought it was terrific also. You're missing my point. Just felt the "party in the streets" like they did when the WTC was brought down brings us down to their level a little bit IMO. That's all.Americans haven't had much to cheer about lately. Who can blame people for celebrating good news for a change? I thought it was terrific.IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. A
The Commish
Footballguy
In your analogy he's the coach, so I am really confused by the point you are trying to prove with the bolded.President Obama essentially took the information that was gathered by others, presented to him with numerous suggestions by others and then made a decision to go one way or the other. Thankfully President Obama made the right decision where as the last two Presidents did not. So a bunch of posters on this board will not give Obama any credit because he did not do any thing on the field in their eyes except for say "Do it".Do you really find this to be a fair analogy?People never cheer the owner of the team, the cheer the players and the coach.You really sound quite foolish.Great job Obama
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Those scenes last night celebrating the killing of Bin Laden in front of the White House were just a little too similar to the news bites we get from Al Jazeera after an American journalist/contract worker is kidnapped/killed. All that was missing were the loonies firing Kalashnikovs in the air.I understand the emotion involved. I just kinda wish we could have just acted a liiittle bit more like we've been there before. You know- hand the ball to the ref and get back to serious business...
The Commish
Footballguy
okThey were celebrating the deaths of thousands of innocent people. We were celebrating the death of one incredibly evil man. I don't see any equivalency.I thought it was terrific also. You're missing my point. Just felt the "party in the streets" like they did when the WTC was brought down brings us down to their level a little bit IMO. That's all.Americans haven't had much to cheer about lately. Who can blame people for celebrating good news for a change? I thought it was terrific.IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. A
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
There's a big difference in celebrating the death of innocents as opposed to celebrating the death of the most wanted man on the planet who happened to orchestrate the death of 1,000sReally getting to the point that I'm dumbfounded at how people can't figure this out with their own brains.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
I don't see the point of lecturing others on how they're supposed to react to OBL's death.
joffer
Footballguy
no different than a VE or VJ day celebration if you ask me. i was a little bothered by it at first, but the more i thought about it, the more i liked it.this guy wanted our country wiped off the map. his death should be a celebration.
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Insoxicated
I'm not sure what gives you that impression, but I'm quite pleased with the situation. I'm also still going to call the partisan tools on their toolishnessA time like what?Most people are pretty happy and chipper about the whole thing right now. But obviously from your posts, you are not.Wow. IF you can't laugh at that, during a time like this.... I would hate to be you.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Ill be honest, when I first saw it I thought it was strange way to act, but that was simple reaction upon my part, not thought out response...
Aren't those scenes from the very cities that were attacked... NYC and Washington D.C?
Aren't those scenes primarily younger people who have lived with the specter of these not only terrifying but probably life-shaping tragedies?
Aren't those scenes from the very cities that were attacked... NYC and Washington D.C?
Aren't those scenes primarily younger people who have lived with the specter of these not only terrifying but probably life-shaping tragedies?
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
I feel that the celebrations are stemming from a feeling of closure to 9/11, more than UBL's death. With a sense, right or wrong, that the wars that we are involved in may be coming to an end, I see the celebrations as a spontaneous expression of accomplishment and achievement. Was the celebrations of VJ day because we killed tens of thousands of Japanese civilians with atomic bombs, or that the war was coming to an end? "Creepy" is not a word that came to my mind, more like "overjoyed"On another note, I am not a fan of our President but I have always said (in other threads here) that I have been impressed with the way he has handled our attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Obama deserves credit here and I for one will say "Good job, Mr. President.".
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I could not agree more Glock. But remember that the people in DC and NYC were hit especially hard so i also try and understand how those people might feel as well. I do hate the ME will see us celebrating like a bunch of college frat boys at a college football game but I'm not surprised either.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I wouldn't worry too much about the people celebrating in the streets. It looks to be mostly college kids, who don't need much of a reason to party in the streets.
I'd guess most Americans have what I'd think the proper response would be (happy, relieved, and proud of our military, but somewhat somber as we reflect the great cost and irreparable damage that's been caused)
I'd guess most Americans have what I'd think the proper response would be (happy, relieved, and proud of our military, but somewhat somber as we reflect the great cost and irreparable damage that's been caused)
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Hillarious and well done
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
I can see this as well.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
No in my analogy he is the owner. President Obama did not sit down and come up with the military strategy for this operation, he just ok'd it.In your analogy he's the coach, so I am really confused by the point you are trying to prove with the bolded.President Obama essentially took the information that was gathered by others, presented to him with numerous suggestions by others and then made a decision to go one way or the other. Thankfully President Obama made the right decision where as the last two Presidents did not. So a bunch of posters on this board will not give Obama any credit because he did not do any thing on the field in their eyes except for say "Do it".Do you really find this to be a fair analogy?People never cheer the owner of the team, the cheer the players and the coach.You really sound quite foolish.Great job Obama
That is one perspective. Another is both sides were celebrating a victory over the "enemy". For many in the world, we are the enemy.Killing Bin Laden was a good thing for the US and most of the world. It was a powerful message - even more so than capturing Hussein. We don't have to ignore that - but this was not Victory-Day. The war goes on. The troops are not coming home tomorrow.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
So according to you.... its is a time to be pleased.Yet, people cant have fun with a picture during a pleasing time?I'm not sure what gives you that impression, but I'm quite pleased with the situation. I'm also still going to call the partisan tools on their toolishnessA time like what?Most people are pretty happy and chipper about the whole thing right now. But obviously from your posts, you are not.Wow. IF you can't laugh at that, during a time like this.... I would hate to be you.
And you hack on their partisanship...
and yet here is your dumb ### at 7:55pm last nite...
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RBM
Footballguy
There's a big difference in celebrating the death of innocents as opposed to celebrating the death of the most wanted man on the planet who happened to orchestrate the death of 1,000sReally getting to the point that I'm dumbfounded at how people can't figure this out with their own brains.
WTF
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Limp- "celebrating" death in of itself just doesn't sit well with some people. Don't get me wrong. Bin Laden had to go. But behaving like the crazies makes it possible for anyone to draw parallels... However much of a reach you may think it is.There's a big difference in celebrating the death of innocents as opposed to celebrating the death of the most wanted man on the planet who happened to orchestrate the death of 1,000sReally getting to the point that I'm dumbfounded at how people can't figure this out with their own brains.
Tiny Dancer
Footballguy
It's hard to put a finger on one thing. A bunch of the sentiments have already been expressed by others (the fact that it makes us look no better than the people we're fighting, makes us look like we're cheering a sporting event, cheering for anybody's death is rather morbid, etc.) Here's a quote I read this morning that also sums up a part of it:
The Commish
Footballguy
We see this as justice. We are looking at it through a judicial lens. They aren't. This is a holy war to them, so in that sense I agree with you. They didn't celebrate the death of thousands. They celebrated a successful attack on the "infidel". The infidel has no face. It's an entity to them. If no one would have died, it would have still been celebrated.Again, I'm happy with the judicial result here, but to celebrate with that "revenge" undertone is a bit off because this really wasn't about revenge. It was about justice. I don't think the same type of celebration is warranted here.There's a big difference in celebrating the death of innocents as opposed to celebrating the death of the most wanted man on the planet who happened to orchestrate the death of 1,000sReally getting to the point that I'm dumbfounded at how people can't figure this out with their own brains.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Agreed. Although it still is slightly weird to me since NYC and DC are overwhelmingly liberal and that would be the group that would tend to be more likely to criticize "jingoistic" behavior and the celebration of death.Have a friend from high school that is an extremely liberal political operative that lives in DC and she was out in DC last night joining in the celebration.
It's sad to me that there are a huge number of people whose reactions would be totally different if it were a Republican in the White House. (That's for both sides of the aisle). Everyone should be happy about this and everyone should be giving Obama credit for increasing the pressure and finishing this thing off.
The Commish
Footballguy
No in my analogy he is the owner. President Obama did not sit down and come up with the military strategy for this operation, he just ok'd it.In your analogy he's the coach, so I am really confused by the point you are trying to prove with the bolded.President Obama essentially took the information that was gathered by others, presented to him with numerous suggestions by others and then made a decision to go one way or the other. Thankfully President Obama made the right decision where as the last two Presidents did not. So a bunch of posters on this board will not give Obama any credit because he did not do any thing on the field in their eyes except for say "Do it".Do you really find this to be a fair analogy?People never cheer the owner of the team, the cheer the players and the coach.You really sound quite foolish.Great job Obama
Ok...I assumed we (the people) were the owners since we elect these people to office blah blah blah. I can see argument for CEO, but not owner. That's just me.
The Commish
Footballguy
Generally speaking, I understand this and make the distinction as well, however, the whackos in the ME will not care to make the distinction. That's the problem for the future IMO.
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Insoxicated
Are you even reading the posts you're responding to? If so, you're not very good at it. Try again.So according to you.... its is a time to be pleased.Yet, people cant have fun with a picture during a pleasing time?I'm not sure what gives you that impression, but I'm quite pleased with the situation. I'm also still going to call the partisan tools on their toolishnessA time like what?Most people are pretty happy and chipper about the whole thing right now. But obviously from your posts, you are not.Wow. IF you can't laugh at that, during a time like this.... I would hate to be you.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Yeah you better answer in a cryptic fashion and edit the posts.
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The Commish
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Maybe they are celebrating the drop in oil prices?
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Insoxicated
Let me clarify since you can't read:1) Someone posted funny pictureYeah you better answer in a cryptic fashion and edit the posts.
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2) Someone rolled eyes
3) I bust the guys balls for not having a sense of humor about a funny picture
4) You reply with:
"So according to you.... its is a time to be pleased.
Yet, people cant have fun with a picture during a pleasing time?"
Is that dumbed down enough for you? You clearly didn't read my post, or you have issues with your grasp of the basic english language. Which is it?
I feel like I'm explaining algebra to my niece here....
Only if it translates to a drop in gas price, but I doubt that's gonna happen 
