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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (1 Viewer)

After not excercising for the past 3-4 years and being close tonthe highest I have ever weighed I decided to get up and start running before work.  I ran 2 miles twice last week and 2 miles twice this week.  Very frustrating because after 2 weeks I have gained 1 pound.  It's not like I have been eating more either.   :censored:
You'll get there. Just keep going. 

 
Some jobs have more predictable hours than others. If woz wants to go to the gym on the regular, his only option is to block off an hour in the morning before his family wakes up. It’s the only hour in his day he’ll truly be able to control. 
I'm with you on this in a couple of years. Presently, though, this time is already spoken for by my two year old and wife. My two year old gets up like clockwork at 5:30 AM (she sleeps through the night so I really can't complain). My wife either goes to the gym at 5:00 AM or, if she doesn't, that is her time to sleep in. From 5:30 AM to 6:30 AM is basically the time I get to spend with my current two year old (I did the same my my older daughter and my former foster son when they were 1-2 and getting up at 5 or 5:30). We usually sit together and share a protein bar, watch cartoons, and I'll answer work emails. I'm then almost always in the office by 7:30 and I try to be done by 6:30. If I can be then usually 6:30-7:30 is the time I can hit the gym (which is in the basement of my office), go for a run, or play softball/hit the driving range. But, this time really isn't in my control because it is often where work just doesn't let me off in time or my wife has things I need to do. When I get home I will usually see both kids from 7:30 - 8:00 then my wife and I will eat dinner between 8:00 and 9:00. I got to bed pretty regularly by no later than 10:00 because I'm really tired and, to get at least 7 hours of sleep, I have to. 

So, presently, the hour currently in my control is 9:00 - 10:00. Obviously it's tough to get a full workout in at this time (although that wasn't a problem in my teens or twenties) due to being tired and winding down. As I've mentioned previously, this hour used to be the real source of my downfall because I'd routinely snack and consume a drink or two of alcohol and be sedentary. I am trying very hard to own this time. Sometimes that means forcing myself to work or to get go to bed at 9:30 instead of giving into the urge to snack. Since we started this diet I am actually using to this to, while still watching a game or a show with my wife, stretch on the floor or air chip. That helps to stave off the snacking and, like others have mentioned, while my heart rate isn't climbing that high, at least i'm doing some functional movement. 

*Obviously the weeks I am in a serious trial the above plan gets thrown out the window and if I'm awake I'm focused on that. 

 
I plan on it.  If nothing else I know I am in better shape and my heart is better.
Honestly, I don't really care too much about how much I weigh. If I look better and feel better that's pretty much moots whatever number I see on that scale. 

ETA: On that note, I am down another belt notch. Haven't been able to weigh myself this week yet.

 
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Honestly, I don't really care too much about how much I weigh. If I look better and feel better that's pretty much moots whatever number I see on that scale. 
The first run I was really struggling and had to stop a few times to walk.  This morning was much easier.

 
Lots of wrong here.

- 40-50 minutes in the gym is plenty (yes, the gym is 5 minutes from my house)

- No I don't need more cardio than weights.  I think weights are far more important than cardio, both for weight loss, and for maintaining functional strength and mobility as we age.  I think the people putting tens of miles of pounding on their knees every week jogging are a little crazy.

- We've dispelled this a thousand times in here.  You'll never offset poor eating with cardio.  The right solution is to eat well.

- I do, however, get cardio, and "steps," in, to the extent I walk quite a bit during my commute every day to/from the train station, through train stations, through transfers, etc.  It's not like I'm a dude who rolls myself into my car, rolls out of the car into a cubicle, and does the reverse in the evening.

By the way, I know the above works for me because I did it, a long time ago.  I felt and looked better than ever in my life.  I didn't do really any cardio, heck, or really even much in terms of weights.  It was very lean eating, cutting the drinking, and bodyweight exercises (push ups, and pull ups when I could eventually do them).  I think that's the right solution for 90% of the population.  I doubt there are very many people in good shape who are pounding down entire pizzas each night but then simply burning it off with a 30 mile run in the morning
:lmao:  

i love the advice from a dude that is perennially fat and unhappy with the way he looks. 

You’re right, 40-50 minutes in the gym is enough time. My gym is about 10 minutes away, so it’s an 1:20 minimum time commitment for me.. The weight lifting portions of my workouts take about 30 minutes.  I superset nearly everything, keeping the weights light and my heart rate up 

here’s a free tip, you’re getting older.  At your age, You do need more cardio than weights, to lose  and keep off weight.  And that pendulum is only going to keep swinging in that direction.  There will always be a place for resistance training, but  time waits for no man  that 22 year old stud you mentioned earlier, he ain’t coming back.  some new 40-50 year version will need to be created   And what worked for the 20 year old, won’t work for the 50 year old   :shrug:    It sucks, but it’s true  I’m 50   And yes, everyone’s different, and you’ll need to figure out what works for you now, for  the 40+ year old you .  For example, non of my cardio involves running.  My knees can’t take it  

I eat exceptionally well  so my,  “paying the piper”, for my mild excesses, works  I had 4 beers last night  I’ll easily work that off at the gym  I’m not eating like ####, and expecting to burn off 1000’s of calories.  

Good luck dude

 
I'm with you on this in a couple of years. Presently, though, this time is already spoken for by my two year old and wife. My two year old gets up like clockwork at 5:30 AM (she sleeps through the night so I really can't complain). My wife either goes to the gym at 5:00 AM or, if she doesn't, that is her time to sleep in. From 5:30 AM to 6:30 AM is basically the time I get to spend with my current two year old (I did the same my my older daughter and my former foster son when they were 1-2 and getting up at 5 or 5:30). We usually sit together and share a protein bar, watch cartoons, and I'll answer work emails. I'm then almost always in the office by 7:30 and I try to be done by 6:30. If I can be then usually 6:30-7:30 is the time I can hit the gym (which is in the basement of my office), go for a run, or play softball/hit the driving range. But, this time really isn't in my control because it is often where work just doesn't let me off in time or my wife has things I need to do. When I get home I will usually see both kids from 7:30 - 8:00 then my wife and I will eat dinner between 8:00 and 9:00. I got to bed pretty regularly by no later than 10:00 because I'm really tired and, to get at least 7 hours of sleep, I have to. 

So, presently, the hour currently in my control is 9:00 - 10:00. Obviously it's tough to get a full workout in at this time (although that wasn't a problem in my teens or twenties) due to being tired and winding down. As I've mentioned previously, this hour used to be the real source of my downfall because I'd routinely snack and consume a drink or two of alcohol and be sedentary. I am trying very hard to own this time. Sometimes that means forcing myself to work or to get go to bed at 9:30 instead of giving into the urge to snack. Since we started this diet I am actually using to this to, while still watching a game or a show with my wife, stretch on the floor or air chip. That helps to stave off the snacking and, like others have mentioned, while my heart rate isn't climbing that high, at least i'm doing some functional movement. 

*Obviously the weeks I am in a serious trial the above plan gets thrown out the window and if I'm awake I'm focused on that. 
If you could find anyway to eat earlier, especially when going to bed about an hour later, that would be helpful.  May not be convenient, but helpful.  Would help the wife as well.  Im sure right now you guys really enjoy that as time together, but you can still spend that time together, just eat separately earlier in the night, and use that hour to do something else together.   

 
Girls had pizza for dinner.  I heated it up, cut it up, looked amazing.

I ordered a "keto bowl" from a local mexican place instead. :shrug:

 
Girls had pizza for dinner.  I heated it up, cut it up, looked amazing.

I ordered a "keto bowl" from a local mexican place instead. :shrug:
I went to a local Mexican place for lunch with coworkers. I didn't eat breakfast so I was hungry and there was not obvious low-carb option. Had tacos. :bag:  

But, I am having keto pizza tonight for dinner. 

 
I went to a local Mexican place for lunch with coworkers. I didn't eat breakfast so I was hungry and there was not obvious low-carb option. Had tacos. :bag:  

But, I am having keto pizza tonight for dinner. 
Taco salad?  Ask for fajitas with no shells. A Mexican restaurant is an easy place to stay low carb, IMO.  

 
Taco salad?  Ask for fajitas with no shells. A Mexican restaurant is an easy place to stay low carb, IMO.  
Nah this was a tacquieria (sp?).  They just do like street taco stuff. I suppose I could have asked for like a custom made plate of taco meat though or something but there was nothing on the menu but tacos. 

 
I went to a local Mexican place for lunch with coworkers. I didn't eat breakfast so I was hungry and there was not obvious low-carb option. Had tacos. :bag:  

But, I am having keto pizza tonight for dinner. 
That "keto bowl" I got was pretty horrible, and I was up on in the john within 30 minutes.  Your street tacos sound better.

This weekend one day we may do lunch at our usual Mexican place.  I'll do my usual trick where I ask them just for a few cut up chicken cutlets, with some guac and queso.  Gets the job done.

Saturday night we're hosting a party, going to grill a bunch of meat out back and have some salads.  That's an easy one.

I will drink some more alcohol this weekend, but that's all good on keto baby.

 
that's a really short workout...unless the gym is 5 minutes away.

you need more cardio, than weights.  since you refuse, to really do anything about booze and food (NTTAWWT :mellow:  ), you need to combat that, with painful amounts of cardio.  think of it this way, for every bottle of wine at the delta lounge, that equals, at least! a solid hour, of DIFFICULT cardio.  that means you are nearly breathless, can't really talk, this sucks, you're dripping sweat.  

i drink too much.  i'm drinking right now.  @krista4  :bag:   however, i will do 30 minutes of ####ty ### cardio tomorrow.  plus, do a 6x6 total body workout. and, spend at least 10 minutes in the 180+ degree sauna.  tomorrow will be workout number 14 for the month.  weighed in at 183.1 today.  this #### ain't easy.  
Just did an hour+ of good sweaty cardio myself.   :thumbup:   

I get the impression you don't drink as much as I or nearly as much at Oats (sorry GB), so a little too much now and then isn't going to kill you.  As for me, I've been good about sticking to no more than one glass of wine per night, with the major exception that I did some day drinking on Sunday while out with friends watching football, and then (after a nap) some night drinking while out to dinner later that night, giving me a total of four that day.  Eek.  Still ended up losing six pounds in the first week.  My next weigh-in will be Monday.

Oh, and I have pick-ups this weekend at two wineries and one cidery where we are members, so that'll be a test (that I intend to pass). 

 
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Good stuff K4, and kudos on the week 1 weight loss.  

Day drinking is my favorite thing to do in the world. IMO

 
Taco salad?  Ask for fajitas with no shells. A Mexican restaurant is an easy place to stay low carb, IMO.  
My wife had a hell of a night with our two youngest so when I got home from practice she apologized because she only ground some turkey and said you need to figure it out from here. And that taco salad I figured out from there was fan ####### tactic. 

 
Day 2:

  • 31,493 steps (187 floors - hiked a little over 11 miles on AT)
  • 125 pushups - sore to start out - it's obvious to me that this is going to be the hardest part for me, especially early on
  • 250 squats - CHECK
  • 220 abs (20 Spider-man plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches;  50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers   - swapped in crunches)
  • Stretching - CHECK
  • 100 oz of water - CHECK
I'm wiped out.

 
Day 2:

  • 31,493 steps (187 floors - hiked a little over 11 miles on AT)
  • 125 pushups - sore to start out - it's obvious to me that this is going to be the hardest part for me, especially early on
  • 250 squats - CHECK
  • 220 abs (20 Spider-man plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches;  50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers   - swapped in crunches)
  • Stretching - CHECK
  • 100 oz of water - CHECK
I'm wiped out.
You're going to need to start eating like Otis otherwise they'll be hooking you up to a feeding tube in the hospital.  

Congrats on a badass day.

 
Just did an hour+ of good sweaty cardio myself.   :thumbup:   

I get the impression you don't drink as much as I or nearly as much at Oats (sorry GB), so a little too much now and then isn't going to kill you.  As for me, I've been good about sticking to no more than one glass of wine per night, with the major exception that I did some day drinking on Sunday while out with friends watching football, and then (after a nap) some night drinking while out to dinner later that night, giving me a total of four that day.  Eek.  Still ended up losing six pounds in the first week.  My next weigh-in will be Monday.

Oh, and I have pick-ups this weekend at two wineries and one cidery where we are members, so that'll be a test (that I intend to pass). 
Good work Krista.  Hope you crush your goals sooner rather than later.

 
That "keto bowl" I got was pretty horrible, and I was up on in the john within 30 minutes.  Your street tacos sound better.

This weekend one day we may do lunch at our usual Mexican place.  I'll do my usual trick where I ask them just for a few cut up chicken cutlets, with some guac and queso.  Gets the job done.

Saturday night we're hosting a party, going to grill a bunch of meat out back and have some salads.  That's an easy one.

I will drink some more alcohol this weekend, but that's all good on keto baby.
The good news is that you didn't absorb any of those kept bowl calories.

Looks like another train wreck of a weekend on tap for you.

 
50 cal under budget today.

9 mile run followed by an hour of lifting, stretching, rolling, and yoga.  Should be good for another 3/4 a pound lost on the day.

 
Day 2:

  • 31,493 steps (187 floors - hiked a little over 11 miles on AT)
  • 125 pushups - sore to start out - it's obvious to me that this is going to be the hardest part for me, especially early on
  • 250 squats - CHECK
  • 220 abs (20 Spider-man plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches;  50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers   - swapped in crunches)
  • Stretching - CHECK
  • 100 oz of water - CHECK
I'm wiped out.
Jeezus, dude, you're a machine! Congrats on that.

you're making me rethink what is possible. I appreciate that.

 
Day 2:

  • 31,493 steps (187 floors - hiked a little over 11 miles on AT)
  • 125 pushups - sore to start out - it's obvious to me that this is going to be the hardest part for me, especially early on
  • 250 squats - CHECK
  • 220 abs (20 Spider-man plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches;  50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers   - swapped in crunches)
  • Stretching - CHECK
  • 100 oz of water - CHECK
I'm wiped out.
For people who are having trouble with the time aspect of working out, it might be useful to you to map out your day to show how you manage to fit this all in.  You have kids and a wife and presumably a job, right?  Your time management skills must be fantastic, and you could help others, I think.

 
For people who are having trouble with the time aspect of working out, it might be useful to you to map out your day to show how you manage to fit this all in.  You have kids and a wife and presumably a job, right?  Your time management skills must be fantastic, and you could help others, I think.
everything but the steps is less than 20-30 minutes.  i have no idea what AT is, you?  @AAABatteries?

 
everything but the steps is less than 20-30 minutes.  i have no idea what AT is, you?  @AAABatteries?
Appalachian Trail, unless I’m missing my guess. I’m curious about the step count though. How are you measuring it? I never use anything other than the health app or the free version of the Trails app on my iPhone and my step counts for a similar length hike would be much lower, like almost 10,000 steps lower. I’m just shy of 6’ tall so I’m not taking Paul Bunyonesque strides. Is the health app that inaccurate or is AAA much shorter than me, or both?

 
For people who are having trouble with the time aspect of working out, it might be useful to you to map out your day to show how you manage to fit this all in.  You have kids and a wife and presumably a job, right?  Your time management skills must be fantastic, and you could help others, I think.
Great question - since this is just day 2 of doing this I don’t have a great answer for this yet but here is what I’ve been doing these 2 days.

When I was at work I was walking as much as a I could.  There’s a walking desk that I can use pretty much any time I want.  If I have an hour without meetings I’ll get on it and start answering emails.  In my office, I close the door and do a quick set of 25 squats.  I went to the gym and ran 2 days ago and mixed in the pushups and abs.

Yesterday I hiked an AT (Appalachian Trail segment like Rusty said) and came home and was finishing packing for the beach.  I would stop and use my yoga mat every few minutes to knock a set of 10 out of something and go right back to packing.

Like BB said, these goals are going to extend me - I haven’t even completed the first 2 days totally but I still think both days were very successful.  I’m hopeful that over the 8 weeks I can get close to the daily average.  But if I end up doing 150 pushups a day instead of 250 then I’m still doing 1,050 pushups a week and which is about 1,000 more than most people.

Last thing - I do try and incorporate this with the wife and kids - walks and get the kids to do the other stuff with me when they are willing.  Makes it fun.

 
Appalachian Trail, unless I’m missing my guess. I’m curious about the step count though. How are you measuring it? I never use anything other than the health app or the free version of the Trails app on my iPhone and my step counts for a similar length hike would be much lower, like almost 10,000 steps lower. I’m just shy of 6’ tall so I’m not taking Paul Bunyonesque strides. Is the health app that inaccurate or is AAA much shorter than me, or both?
Yep, Appalachian Trail - I love it. I’ll be posting in the hiking thread at some point with some thoughts and pictures.

And you are right that the numbers seems off.  Usually, like Bass said, it’s around 2k steps - however, and I think this is what happened, is I did 187 stories so I think I probably walked farther but it was up and down but the app doesn’t register all of it.  That was why I added that in my post - I knew it didn’t look right but I also knew we were hiking for almost 5 hours.

 
Air fryer nerds, have you ever used it to make potato chips?  There seem to be some good results out there reported by strangers, but I wanted some feedback from the folks of the FFA that I trust.   

 
Yep, Appalachian Trail - I love it. I’ll be posting in the hiking thread at some point with some thoughts and pictures.

And you are right that the numbers seems off.  Usually, like Bass said, it’s around 2k steps - however, and I think this is what happened, is I did 187 stories so I think I probably walked farther but it was up and down but the app doesn’t register all of it.  That was why I added that in my post - I knew it didn’t look right but I also knew we were hiking for almost 5 hours.
If you’re talking about the iPhone health app, it’s always way off in terms of stories.  I can do a hike where I know the elevation gain, and the stories the app records are always way lower.  The distance is usually a little low, too, but it’s the stories that are far off.  I don’t know about steps.

I’d recommend Strava as a better app if you’re measuring hiking.  

 
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If you’re talking about the iPhone health app, it’s always way off in terms of stories.  I can do a hike where I know the elevation gain, and the stories the app records are always way lower.  The distance is usually a little low, too, but it’s the stories that are far off.  I don’t know about steps.

I’d recommend Strava as a better app if you’re measuring hiking.  
Few things:

1. You need to join the Strava FFA group!

2. I use it but just plugged in the Health app numbers.  I need to sign up for Strava Summit I think to get the full numbers - will do that this weekend

3.  Agree that the Health App can be off but it’s better than it used to be and sometimes I find it to be closer than Strava (if you believe the mileages on the park signs).  On the stories, you’ve done a lot more hiking than me, maybe Strava will be good for that?

 
Few things:

1. You need to join the Strava FFA group!

2. I use it but just plugged in the Health app numbers.  I need to sign up for Strava Summit I think to get the full numbers - will do that this weekend

3.  Agree that the Health App can be off but it’s better than it used to be and sometimes I find it to be closer than Strava (if you believe the mileages on the park signs).  On the stories, you’ve done a lot more hiking than me, maybe Strava will be good for that?
OK, so now I have to admit that Strava is my third-favorite app for tracking hikes.  Why did I not recommend my two favorites?  By far the best IMO is Gaia, but it's not free.  I bought it 6-7 years ago so don't remember, but I think it was $50?  It was a one-time fee, but I might have read somewhere that it changed later and those who already have it were grandfathered in.  Could be mixing that up with something else, though.  Its data is definitely the best, and the topo maps are great.  I'm a map nerd, though.

My second favorite is MapMyHike, but I didn't recommend it because only yesterday I learned the app will no longer be supported!  Apparently you can just use one of the other MapMyFitness apps instead, so I downloaded MayMyRun and saw all my years of data are in there, but I haven't tried it yet to see if it works similarly.  MayMyHike was very accurate for elevation gain but sometimes could wildly overcalculate distance.  I care more about gain and could figure distance pretty well on my own, so it didn't bother me, and it had gotten better over the past couple of years, too.

Strava has been accurate IMO for elevation but again not quite as good for distance.  

I always hike with Gaia and then use either MapMyHike or Strava as a second data point, just in case.  I am ridiculous about wanting to be accurate, though.

 
Giving ground back to Otis today. Ate a bowl at one of those healthy organic places where the calories sneak up on you with hummus and olives and stuff. Already over budget and still haven’t eaten dinner. Damn this can be hard. Hopefully Otis got into the gauc and queso today and the wine flows tonight

 
Keeping up the diet is starting to weigh a little with the amount of crap in the house.

Today was two hard-boiled eggs (150 Kcal), a beef stick (50 Kcal), a Japanese bowl (500 Kcal), a cup of cottage cheese (200 Kcal), 6 cups of watermelon (300 Kcal) and a handful of potato chips (300 Kcal). Those potato chips could have been something quite a bit better. Have a second interview on Tuesday, would like to be at or under 245.

 
Good defensive answer after letting up that previous Georgia TD.   Love how this d is playing.  Even on the TD drive, they really made them work for it.

 
Room for one more in here? I've got to do something (besides eating). I could stand to lose about 80 pounds but I'll settle for half that. Will start once I return from a work trip on Thursday. I'll have 30 days with no travel to get into a routine before traveling a lot in November and December.

 
Room for one more in here? I've got to do something (besides eating). I could stand to lose about 80 pounds but I'll settle for half that. Will start once I return from a work trip on Thursday. I'll have 30 days with no travel to get into a routine before traveling a lot in November and December.
Work is hard for me. Unlimited snacks in the office, Delta lounge in the airports, meals out with booze. Cutting out booze is a good start. Then choosing salads/fish. Had to stop all office snacking after I polished off about half of a 25 lb bag of pistachios in a couple weeks.

Good luck! Great and knowledgeable folks in here.

 
Day 3:

 - 18,595 steps - ran 4 miles, walked on the beach and around our rental house - I’ll make up the difference here tomorrow when I have a long run

- 150 pushups - still struggling with these - I think I need to split it half morning and half night for now 

- 250 squats - CHECK - may do what @MAC_32 suggested and add weights starting next week - a little too easy right now 

-  215 abs (20 Spider-man plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches;  50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers   - swapped in crunches)

- Stretching - CHECK

- 100 oz of water - NOPE - Being at the beach I drank some - mixed in a couple water bottles but definitely didn’t hit 100 and I paid for it on my run

 
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