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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (15 Viewers)

shadyridr said:
Id love to see a side by side pic of 2 weeks ago vs today. 20 lbs is noticable. Do people ask you if you have AIDS?

jk obviously. Keep doing what works for you. I would be very concerned about organ shutdown if it were me.
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I've lost 13 and I can tell a visible difference in my face, I can fell that my stomach is smaller (and less bloating) and I was able to go a belt notch tighter today.  BnB was heavier than me but I imagine he has to notice - probably others have too.

 
shadyridr said:
jk obviously. Keep doing what works for you. I would be very concerned about organ shutdown if it were me.
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I'll quote this post but a general question.  Why are my organs going to shut down? 

If I was eating the same as now and stopped walking and lifting weights and drank 3 Peanut Butter Extra Dark Chocolatey Mocha Stouts or 3 glasses of wine would my organs all of a sudden be happy?

 
BassNBrew said:
I'll quote this post but a general question.  Why are my organs going to shut down? 

If I was eating the same as now and stopped walking and lifting weights and drank 3 Peanut Butter Extra Dark Chocolatey Mocha Stouts or 3 glasses of wine would my organs all of a sudden be happy?
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Would you still be smoking?

 
[Daniel and Bob are at a garden restaurant; Daniel is enjoying a chicken lunch platter]

Bob Diamond: We have about 400,000 residents here. We service half of the United States dead. That's about 2,500 people a day.

Daniel Miller: Do children come here?

Bob Diamond: Children don't have to defend themselves. When a child is taken, they automatically move forward. Isn't that nice?

Daniel Miller: What about teenagers?

Bob Diamond: Too much trouble. They go elsewhere. We tried for a while, but they damage the tupas. Too rowdy. What about your chicken? How do you like it?

Daniel Miller: Oh, delicious!

Bob Diamond: Yeah.

[Bob is eating a meatloaf-like substance]

Bob Diamond: Mmm!

Daniel Miller: [curious] What are you eating?

Bob Diamond: You wouldn't like this. Ha-ha-ha.

Daniel Miller: What is it? What's it taste like?

Bob Diamond: You're curious, aren't ya? Good. I like that about you. You wanna try?

Daniel Miller: Yeah. It looks so weird.

[Daniel tries the substance, but has a terrible taste; Daniel gags and chokes; Bob laughs]

Daniel Miller: Oh, my God!

Bob Diamond: A little like horse####, huh?

[Daniel nods as he spits it out]

Bob Diamond: As you get smarter, you begin to manipulate your senses. This tastes much different to me than it is to you.

Daniel Miller: Eww! This is what smart people eat?

This thread is full of stupid people!

 
AAABatteries said:
I've lost 13 and I can tell a visible difference in my face, I can fell that my stomach is smaller (and less bloating) and I was able to go a belt notch tighter today.  BnB was heavier than me but I imagine he has to notice - probably others have too.
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Wished I'd thrown a tape around my fat belly 2 weeks ago but I don't think they make them that big.  

I didn't notice the difference so much in the belly pic as the roll that was hanging off my chin that is gone.

 
BassNBrew said:
I'll quote this post but a general question.  Why are my organs going to shut down? 

If I was eating the same as now and stopped walking and lifting weights and drank 3 Peanut Butter Extra Dark Chocolatey Mocha Stouts or 3 glasses of wine would my organs all of a sudden be happy?
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Everything in moderation. Obesity is dangerous to your organs just like anorexia is dangerous to your organs.

 
AAABatteries said:
[Daniel and Bob are at a garden restaurant; Daniel is enjoying a chicken lunch platter]

Bob Diamond: We have about 400,000 residents here. We service half of the United States dead. That's about 2,500 people a day.

Daniel Miller: Do children come here?

Bob Diamond: Children don't have to defend themselves. When a child is taken, they automatically move forward. Isn't that nice?

Daniel Miller: What about teenagers?

Bob Diamond: Too much trouble. They go elsewhere. We tried for a while, but they damage the tupas. Too rowdy. What about your chicken? How do you like it?

Daniel Miller: Oh, delicious!

Bob Diamond: Yeah.

[Bob is eating a meatloaf-like substance]

Bob Diamond: Mmm!

Daniel Miller: [curious] What are you eating?

Bob Diamond: You wouldn't like this. Ha-ha-ha.

Daniel Miller: What is it? What's it taste like?

Bob Diamond: You're curious, aren't ya? Good. I like that about you. You wanna try?

Daniel Miller: Yeah. It looks so weird.

[Daniel tries the substance, but has a terrible taste; Daniel gags and chokes; Bob laughs]

Daniel Miller: Oh, my God!

Bob Diamond: A little like horse####, huh?

[Daniel nods as he spits it out]

Bob Diamond: As you get smarter, you begin to manipulate your senses. This tastes much different to me than it is to you.

Daniel Miller: Eww! This is what smart people eat?

This thread is full of stupid people!
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Love this.. One of my favorite movies.

 
Sand said:
You should see the amount of black pepper I put on stuff.  On sandwiches I'll open up the "pour" side and make it black.  I hope it's good for you or I'm in trouble.  

####### huge turnaround!  Did you cut off a leg here?
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The first week, I was still eating like crap. Didn't even start trying to eat healthy, and everyone at work was buying junk and pizza to bring in. Working midnight shift, I either eat really well, or pour a bunch of fatty, sugary stuff down my gullet. After the first weigh-in, I got serious on Wednesday/Thursday and started potatoes, hardcore. They're magic.

 
ProstheticRGK said:
The first week, I was still eating like crap. Didn't even start trying to eat healthy, and everyone at work was buying junk and pizza to bring in. Working midnight shift, I either eat really well, or pour a bunch of fatty, sugary stuff down my gullet. After the first weigh-in, I got serious on Wednesday/Thursday and started potatoes, hardcore. They're magic.
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Give me a quick rundown of what you ate and how you prepared it.  Very curious.

 
rick6668 said:
Give me a quick rundown of what you ate and how you prepared it.  Very curious.
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Drink: black coffee and water.

eat: boiled a 10 lb. bag of Baby Bella (Yukon Gold) potatoes about 20 minutes, cut them up sprayed a minimal amount of EVOO on them. Roasted at 400 for about an hour with kosher salt, pepper, rosemary, thyme, garlic and onion powder.

I eat a plateful whenever I get hungry, sometimes once, sometimes twice a day. Throw a little Rao's marinara sauce on top, pop in the microwave and eat. Gone thru 12 lbs of spuds in 5 days.

an actifry might change the game for me. I love gravy fries and have a recipe for vegan brown gravy that is almost fat-free, very low cal. 

 
ProstheticRGK said:
Drink: black coffee and water.

eat: boiled a 10 lb. bag of Baby Bella (Yukon Gold) potatoes about 20 minutes, cut them up sprayed a minimal amount of EVOO on them. Roasted at 400 for about an hour with kosher salt, pepper, rosemary, thyme, garlic and onion powder.

I eat a plateful whenever I get hungry, sometimes once, sometimes twice a day. Throw a little Rao's marinara sauce on top, pop in the microwave and eat. Gone thru 12 lbs of spuds in 5 days.

an actifry might change the game for me. I love gravy fries and have a recipe for vegan brown gravy that is almost fat-free, very low cal. 
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You only eat once or twice a day?  I feel like I could eat 5lbs of potatoes a day.

 
I've gotta say, I'm feeling pretty OK about this.  Drank and ate a bunch of garbage over the course of a three day weekend; made some healthy choices and tried to moderate somewhat, but didn't really deprive myself.  Still after that weekend I'm averaging over 3lbs per week.  That's safe, solid progress.  

Need to keep slowly upping my game and making progress, although I still don't plan to live fully clean on the weekends.  But I'll moderate as best I can.

 
BassNBrew said:
Wished I'd thrown a tape around my fat belly 2 weeks ago but I don't think they make them that big.  

I didn't notice the difference so much in the belly pic as the roll that was hanging off my chin that is gone.
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Yep - exactly my experience.  I'm one of those that carries a fast majority of excess weight in my stomach.

 
rick6668 said:
You only eat once or twice a day?  I feel like I could eat 5lbs of potatoes a day.
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You can, too, and it will still work. But potatoes are really high on the satiety index. I am good only eating a couple times a day, or even just once. The longer you do it, the less hungry you get.

 
ProstheticRGK said:
You can, too, and it will still work. But potatoes are really high on the satiety index. I am good only eating a couple times a day, or even just once. The longer you do it, the less hungry you get.
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Thanks.

Really thinking about doing this for 3 days or so to see the results.  2 weeks of eating mostly veggies, with some protein has gotten me wanting something different.  If this potato hack works like I hear, then going back to these foods should taste better if I can pull off a 3 day + potato run. 

Another part of me says I should just stay the course, as this will give me 1.5-2 lbs each week on average... have some thinking to do.

 
Otis said:
I've gotta say, I'm feeling pretty OK about this.  Drank and ate a bunch of garbage over the course of a three day weekend; made some healthy choices and tried to moderate somewhat, but didn't really deprive myself.  Still after that weekend I'm averaging over 3lbs per week.  That's safe, solid progress.  

Need to keep slowly upping my game and making progress, although I still don't plan to live fully clean on the weekends.  But I'll moderate as best I can.
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I miss the full bale take no prisoners Otis.

 
rick6668 said:
Thanks.

Really thinking about doing this for 3 days or so to see the results.  2 weeks of eating mostly veggies, with some protein has gotten me wanting something different.  If this potato hack works like I hear, then going back to these foods should taste better if I can pull off a 3 day + potato run. 

Another part of me says I should just stay the course, as this will give me 1.5-2 lbs each week on average... have some thinking to do.
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The first 3 days are the hardest. After that, cravings and hunger are mostly gone, and I get on autopilot. Weight loss has been consistently very high, much higher than the supposedly sustainable 1.5-2 lb per week threshold.

 
shadyridr said:
Dont we all wish lol. But what he is doing is basically anorexia (for 2 weeks).
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Or we could get some facts...http://www.webmd.com/diet/low-calorie-diets#1-2



Are Very Low-Calorie Diets Safe?


Very low-calorie diets are not OK for everyone. Talk to your doctor to see if this kind of diet is appropriate for you.



If your BMI is greater than 30, then very low-calorie diets are generally safe when used under proper medical supervision. For people who are overweight but not obese (BMI of 27-30), very low-calorie diets should be reserved for those who have weight-related medical problems and are under medical supervision.


Very low-calorie-diets are not recommended for pregnant or breastfeeding women, and are not appropriate for children or teensexcept in specialized treatment programs. They also may not be OK for people over age 50, either, depending on the potential need for medications for pre-existing conditions, as well as the possibility of side effects.


What Are the Side Effects of Very Low-Calorie Diets?


People on a very low-calorie diet for 4 to 16 weeks report minor side effects such as fatigue, constipation, nausea, and diarrhea. These conditions usually improve within a few weeks and rarely prevent people from completing the program.

Gallstones are the most common serious side effect of very low-calorie diets. Gallstones are more common during rapid weight loss. When the body experiences a calorie deficit, it starts to break down fat for energy. The liver then secretes more cholesterol and when combined with bile, can form gallstones.

 
 


 
BassNBrew said:
Or we could get some facts...http://www.webmd.com/diet/low-calorie-diets#1-2



Are Very Low-Calorie Diets Safe?


Very low-calorie diets are not OK for everyone. Talk to your doctor to see if this kind of diet is appropriate for you.



If your BMI is greater than 30, then very low-calorie diets are generally safe when used under proper medical supervision. For people who are overweight but not obese (BMI of 27-30), very low-calorie diets should be reserved for those who have weight-related medical problems and are under medical supervision.


Very low-calorie-diets are not recommended for pregnant or breastfeeding women, and are not appropriate for children or teensexcept in specialized treatment programs. They also may not be OK for people over age 50, either, depending on the potential need for medications for pre-existing conditions, as well as the possibility of side effects.


What Are the Side Effects of Very Low-Calorie Diets?


People on a very low-calorie diet for 4 to 16 weeks report minor side effects such as fatigue, constipation, nausea, and diarrhea. These conditions usually improve within a few weeks and rarely prevent people from completing the program.

Gallstones are the most common serious side effect of very low-calorie diets. Gallstones are more common during rapid weight loss. When the body experiences a calorie deficit, it starts to break down fat for energy. The liver then secretes more cholesterol and when combined with bile, can form gallstones.

 
 
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Ok but you are adding exercise and I must have missed that you are doing so under medical supervision.

 
Two options...

1. Three chicken breasts, broccoli, mix greens salad, fresh pico, 6 egg white, carrots, mushrooms, onions, 800 cal - OMG you have anorexia, your organs are going to shut down, you're gonna DIE!!!!!!!

2. Three chicken breasts, broccoli, mix greens salad, fresh pico, 6 egg white, carrots, mushrooms, onions , 3 IPAs, bag of Doritos, 2200 cal - You sure know how to diet.  That's a sensible and healthy plan to be proud of.

 
BassNBrew said:
Two options...

1. Three chicken breasts, broccoli, mix greens salad, fresh pico, 6 egg white, carrots, mushrooms, onions, 800 cal - OMG you have anorexia, your organs are going to shut down, you're gonna DIE!!!!!!!

2. Three chicken breasts, broccoli, mix greens salad, fresh pico, 6 egg white, carrots, mushrooms, onions , 3 IPAs, bag of Doritos, 2200 cal - You sure know how to diet.  That's a sensible and healthy plan to be proud of.
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ok again you are skipping the calories you are burning via exercise every day. And I am eating 1500 calories a day. Not 2200. Lets not exaggerate. Anyway, I dont think what you are doing is safe but Im not really trying to argue. Do what you want. Its your life.

 
shadyridr said:
Ok but you are adding exercise and I must have missed that you are doing so under medical supervision.
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You know the medical supervision thing is a joke and just fine print you see in every diet/medical article anywhere.

Exercise isn't dependent on having three IPAs or a half bag of potatoes in your gut.  Your body isn't draining the contents of your stomach for fuel.  Done properly, it's primarily burning fat.    

 
shadyridr said:
ok again you are skipping the calories you are burning via exercise every day. And I am eating 1500 calories a day. Not 2200. Lets not exaggerate. Anyway, I dont think what you are doing is safe but Im not really trying to argue. Do what you want. Its your life.
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I wasn't referring to you specifically with the second example.  

 
ProstheticRGK said:
Drink: black coffee and water.

eat: boiled a 10 lb. bag of Baby Bella (Yukon Gold) potatoes about 20 minutes, cut them up sprayed a minimal amount of EVOO on them. Roasted at 400 for about an hour with kosher salt, pepper, rosemary, thyme, garlic and onion powder.

I eat a plateful whenever I get hungry, sometimes once, sometimes twice a day. Throw a little Rao's marinara sauce on top, pop in the microwave and eat. Gone thru 12 lbs of spuds in 5 days.

an actifry might change the game for me. I love gravy fries and have a recipe for vegan brown gravy that is almost fat-free, very low cal. 
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Thank you.  Recipe for the gravy please.

 
rick6668 said:
Thank you.  Recipe for the gravy please.
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Preparation Time:  10 minutes
Cooking Time:  10 minutes
Servings:  makes about 2 cups 

¼ cup unbleached white flour
1 ½ cups vegetable broth
½ cup water
2 tablespoons tahini
3 tablespoons tamari or soy sauce
freshly ground pepper to taste 

Place the flour in a non-stick frying pan.  Cook and stir over medium heat until the flour becomes a golden brown.  Do not let it burn!  Slowly whisk in the vegetable broth and water.  After it is quite smooth, add the tahini and tamari or soy sauce.  Continue to whisk until mixture boils and is smooth and thick. Season with freshly ground black pepper.

Above is the recipe as I got it. I usually do a little EVOO and sweat some aromatics (onions, celery, carrot, garlic) in the pan before adding the flour, to give flavor and to make a real roux. Mushrooms are great in this, too. Also, use good broth, and even some veggie/chicken/beef base to amp up the flavors. I like Worcestershire sauce, too.

 
BassNBrew said:
Two options...

1. Three chicken breasts, broccoli, mix greens salad, fresh pico, 6 egg white, carrots, mushrooms, onions, 800 cal - OMG you have anorexia, your organs are going to shut down, you're gonna DIE!!!!!!!

2. Three chicken breasts, broccoli, mix greens salad, fresh pico, 6 egg white, carrots, mushrooms, onions , 3 IPAs, bag of Doritos, 2200 cal - You sure know how to diet.  That's a sensible and healthy plan to be proud of.
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Your hyperbolic analogies are breathtaking.

 
proninja said:
:lol:

When you switch from talking about the subject being discussed to the person you're discussing that subject with it's usually a sign things aren't going very well for you in said discussion. 

I'll take that as "Boy, the information I had was antiquated and out of date. I was wrong, thanks for showing me this new information. I learned something today!" 
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You got me Dash. 

 
Even if sodium itself is not bad, I think it makes people want to eat more.  I don't know if there are any studies to back me up.  I am basing on personal experience.

 
proninja said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Even if sodium itself is not bad, I think it makes people want to eat more.  I don't know if there are any studies to back me up.  I am basing on personal experience.
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Well, it makes food taste better, which does usually make me want to eat more, so I wouldn't be shocked to find that to be the case. 
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I'll take that as "Boy, the information I had was antiquated and out of date. I was wrong, thanks for showing me this new information. I learned something today!" 

:D

 
Here's a clue no-salt guys, you're doing way more harm to your body by being fat asses than you are by adding a little salt to your food.  Try not being obese and get in shape and then see if that doesn't improve all of your cardiac markers.

I swear...

 
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Long day at work. Mrs O drinking red wine. 

Otis drinking seltzer. :kicksrock:

protein bar for lunch; lentil soup and egg salad sandwich for dinner. Done and done. 

 
Wife has been in good shape, did mostly power lifting stuff and yoga, but started doing these barre classes.  HFS.  Girl is getting jacked.  It's just a bunch of super high rep tiny movements.  #### I hate.  Made fun of her at first but I'm sold.

I'm gonna have to step up my game in the gym to keep up.  Might go on full meal prep.

 
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