What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (7 Viewers)

For the past few weeks (as I've been posting), I've been getting up at 5:00, working out and in the car for work at 6:45, at work by 7:20.  I then can do whatever I want the rest of the day and don't have to worry about working out.  A big key is boozing in the evening derails this very quickly.
Sounds tempted. But I've got a two month old and two and five year olds. If I could get past the fact that I was up in the middle of the night feeding one and consoling another and therefore had limited sleep, I might be able to make this work. It's really the only time I could realistically make it work. But im just grinding to the bone lately. 

 
So you're working 9 hours a day?  Seems like you'd have time to workout an hour before work or get to work an hour early and take an hour lunch to workout.  I may be misreading since I'm not factoring working from home before or after you are at work.
Yeah I'm these days working more like 12 hour+ days.  At least that's what I'm charging clients, which doesn't always capture all the little things, responding to email from home in the middle of the night, etc. I also am teaching a class this semester, which I had been considering giving up this year, but it crept up on me and now it's too late. I'm hating myself for that. 

Anyway I ordered peloton shoes. Maybe when I get home at night I should try doing that for 40 minutes, tired as I am.  I have a feeling though that won't last more than two sessions. But we'll try. 

 
Sounds tempted. But I've got a two month old and two and five year olds. If I could get past the fact that I was up in the middle of the night feeding one and consoling another and therefore had limited sleep, I might be able to make this work. It's really the only time I could realistically make it work. But im just grinding to the bone lately. 
That's what you get for partying when you were young and having kids late! 

HAHAHAHAHAHA 

jk - I remember it's tough with young ones.  As someone above me said, focus on the diet and get in what exercise you can.   Or just eat and drink yourself silly.

 
Drink: black coffee and water.

eat: boiled a 10 lb. bag of Baby Bella (Yukon Gold) potatoes about 20 minutes, cut them up sprayed a minimal amount of EVOO on them. Roasted at 400 for about an hour with kosher salt, pepper, rosemary, thyme, garlic and onion powder.

I eat a plateful whenever I get hungry, sometimes once, sometimes twice a day. Throw a little Rao's marinara sauce on top, pop in the microwave and eat. Gone thru 12 lbs of spuds in 5 days.

an actifry might change the game for me. I love gravy fries and have a recipe for vegan brown gravy that is almost fat-free, very low cal. 
@ProstheticRGK

OK, wasn't that hungry last night.  This morning I'm feeling kind of off and I am not hungry at all but feel like I should eat.  Is it normal to feel that way?  Have my potatoes for breakfast/lunch, but not sure when I will eat them.  Just having some water for now.

 
@ProstheticRGK

OK, wasn't that hungry last night.  This morning I'm feeling kind of off and I am not hungry at all but feel like I should eat.  Is it normal to feel that way?  Have my potatoes for breakfast/lunch, but not sure when I will eat them.  Just having some water for now.
Rick, how many days into the potato thing are you?  I remember it took me a few days to adjust and feel right, but once I broke through that I felt pretty great.

Considering making a run on potatoes for 7-10 days to get a little boost here.  I have no doubt that's an easy 5lbs.

 
Really mad at myself.  I sound like Otis here.  Fallen back into my old habits.  Hungry on my way home so I'll grab a quick meal of insert Crap here.  Which isn't terrible except that my 10:30pm craving kicks in.   I've been trying to be better and eat granola at that time but don't think that's as healthy as I think. It's npt everyday but enough to stall progress.

My workouts are ok nothing crazy as I'm in worse shape than I thought.   LOL.

So anyway - refocusing.

 
Rick, how many days into the potato thing are you?  I remember it took me a few days to adjust and feel right, but once I broke through that I felt pretty great.

Considering making a run on potatoes for 7-10 days to get a little boost here.  I have no doubt that's an easy 5lbs.
Tuesday - Dinner

Wednesday - Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner

Thursday - Don't feel like eating breakfast

So I guess 1.5 days.  It's so weird.  I LOVE potatoes, but I am NOT hungry for ANYTHING right now.

 
Sounds tempted. But I've got a two month old and two and five year olds. If I could get past the fact that I was up in the middle of the night feeding one and consoling another and therefore had limited sleep, I might be able to make this work. It's really the only time I could realistically make it work. But im just grinding to the bone lately. 
You probably do not have time for exercise right now.  Once that baby starts sleeping through the night, you can get on the workout room idea.  I did not work out until my daughter slept through the night.  When she did start sleeping through the night, I put a gym in the basement so my workout time was as small as it could be.  Taking out travel time to work out helps out a great deal since our time is so limited.   I still go to gyms with friends occasionally and admit that I miss that atmosphere.  I have not intention to join a gym any time soon though.   Time.  Time.  Time.   

However, there is no excuse for eating horribly.  You can lose weight simply by eating and drinking less.   

 
Really mad at myself.  I sound like Otis here.  Fallen back into my old habits.  Hungry on my way home so I'll grab a quick meal of insert Crap here.  Which isn't terrible except that my 10:30pm craving kicks in.   I've been trying to be better and eat granola at that time but don't think that's as healthy as I think. It's npt everyday but enough to stall progress.

My workouts are ok nothing crazy as I'm in worse shape than I thought.   LOL.

So anyway - refocusing.
When you get hungry late at night like that I just drink a glass of water and go to bed.  Win-win in my book.

 
When you get hungry late at night like that I just drink a glass of water and go to bed.  Win-win in my book.
Yep, that was me yday.

Had the tacutacu breakfast with scrambled eggs, grabbed some quick tacutacu out of the door for lunch and then my cheat dinner of grilled chicken wings (10 wings total, no batter or anything, just wings - I was a little grossed out with how greasy they actually were). water all the way and then when I got home I started to get hungry at 9:30. Had a glass of milk and some water and went to bed. Granted I had been up since 0400.

Being an old fart I had to pee at least three times before midnight...

Anyway, not too bad for a cheat day

 
Still treading water with 0 loss in the last two days of taters:
Tues: 10oz oven roasted potato wedges for B/L/D (~700cal)
Wed: 10oz oven roasted potato wedges for B/L + 17oz oven roasted potato wedges for dinner (~900cal)

Haven't been really all that hungry at all. A little groggy/out of it today but not sure if its because I took a flexeril last night to guarantee sleep after the finger incident :lol:

Hoping tomorrow AM is the day i break through. Likely going to drop the potato thing and go back to normal food on Sat AM. Likely hosting an AFC/NFC watch party Sunday. Couple buddies already joking that they don't want to be served only taters :)
 

 
Tuesday - Dinner

Wednesday - Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner

Thursday - Don't feel like eating breakfast

So I guess 1.5 days.  It's so weird.  I LOVE potatoes, but I am NOT hungry for ANYTHING right now.
The one thing I also noticed is that I had no inflammation or bloat.  I just felt light on my feet, my gums didn't bleed when I brushed my teeth, etc.  It was like an overall improvement to my general health.

Power through for a couple more days.  What I found worked really well for me was doing potatoes Mon-Weds or Thursday, and then doing whatever I wanted (within reason) on the weekends.  Still kept dropping weight like crazy.

 
Really mad at myself.  I sound like Otis here.  Fallen back into my old habits.  Hungry on my way home so I'll grab a quick meal of insert Crap here.  Which isn't terrible except that my 10:30pm craving kicks in.   I've been trying to be better and eat granola at that time but don't think that's as healthy as I think. It's npt everyday but enough to stall progress.

My workouts are ok nothing crazy as I'm in worse shape than I thought.   LOL.

So anyway - refocusing.
Get back to it, GB.

I slipped last night too.  Long stressful day, got home late, wife was drinking wine, and I poured myself two glasses of red.  Hadn't eaten all day, dinner wasn't terrible, but did a little snacking after that I didn't need to.

It's all about the booze, man.

 
The one thing I also noticed is that I had no inflammation or bloat.  I just felt light on my feet, my gums didn't bleed when I brushed my teeth, etc.  It was like an overall improvement to my general health.

Power through for a couple more days.  What I found worked really well for me was doing potatoes Mon-Weds or Thursday, and then doing whatever I wanted (within reason) on the weekends.  Still kept dropping weight like crazy.
How long til you start to feel better?  I'm feeling better now but not hungry at all and have no cravings.  Have a couple of meetings and will likely fire up some potatoes for lunch.

 
Get back to it, GB.

I slipped last night too.  Long stressful day, got home late, wife was drinking wine, and I poured myself two glasses of red.  Hadn't eaten all day, dinner wasn't terrible, but did a little snacking after that I didn't need to.

It's all about the booze, man.
It's all about the habits, man

I got in the habit of having a snack at about 7 pm just because my daughter has a snack then.  I remember thinking many times that I wasn't even hungry but snacked anyway. Felt like it was a nice bonding moment to share some Oreos with my kid. I quit doing that when we started this weight loss plan and now I don't even miss the snacks. And guess what. My daughter doesn't care if I Eat snacks. She is just happy that we are hanging out together. 

 
@ProstheticRGK

OK, wasn't that hungry last night.  This morning I'm feeling kind of off and I am not hungry at all but feel like I should eat.  Is it normal to feel that way?  Have my potatoes for breakfast/lunch, but not sure when I will eat them.  Just having some water for now.
I went through an adjustment period, too, each time lasting three days. It was never as bad as the "Keto Flu" from doing Atkins, but definitely felt a little off. By day 3, it's passed every time, and I end up feeling amazing. Lighter, more energy, less aches and pains, better mood. I noticed the gum thing Otis was talking about, too. And my snoring gets better. Less inflammation in the body, in general. And, on top of that food cravings are gone. I can look at one of my favorite foods and just see it- with no attachment or wishing I could have it. Totally dispassionately just view it as a suboptimal fuel source, and not some forbidden fruit.

And the lack of hunger thing is pretty wild, but I just use it as a time to actually listen to my body and realize how programmed I go through the day. Now, I only eat if I'm hungry, not because it's a certain time of the day, or because it's been X amount of hours. I realized I've only very rarely ever been truly hungry in my whole life. Most times I've eaten, it was because I've wanted to eat. Never been in tune with my body enough to really stop and listen to what it's telling me. Now, I know what hunger feels like. It's a lot different than I thought.

 
I went through an adjustment period, too, each time lasting three days. It was never as bad as the "Keto Flu" from doing Atkins, but definitely felt a little off. By day 3, it's passed every time, and I end up feeling amazing. Lighter, more energy, less aches and pains, better mood. I noticed the gum thing Otis was talking about, too. And my snoring gets better. Less inflammation in the body, in general. And, on top of that food cravings are gone. I can look at one of my favorite foods and just see it- with no attachment or wishing I could have it. Totally dispassionately just view it as a suboptimal fuel source, and not some forbidden fruit.

And the lack of hunger thing is pretty wild, but I just use it as a time to actually listen to my body and realize how programmed I go through the day. Now, I only eat if I'm hungry, not because it's a certain time of the day, or because it's been X amount of hours. I realized I've only very rarely ever been truly hungry in my whole life. Most times I've eaten, it was because I've wanted to eat. Never been in tune with my body enough to really stop and listen to what it's telling me. Now, I know what hunger feels like. It's a lot different than I thought.
I just fired up some of my potatoes for lunch cause it's time, but I am sitting here thinking I am really not hungry like I used to be.  There will be some adjusting until I figure it out.

How long do you go eating just potatoes?

 
Yeah I'm these days working more like 12 hour+ days.  At least that's what I'm charging clients, which doesn't always capture all the little things, responding to email from home in the middle of the night, etc. I also am teaching a class this semester, which I had been considering giving up this year, but it crept up on me and now it's too late. I'm hating myself for that. 

Anyway I ordered peloton shoes. Maybe when I get home at night I should try doing that for 40 minutes, tired as I am.  I have a feeling though that won't last more than two sessions. But we'll try. 
Don't take this the wrong way, but you work 12 hour days and your wife seems to drink wine most nights and you have to get up in the middle of the night to feed the kids?  Something is wrong with this picture.

Do you have the subscription service for the Peloton?  That seems like the way to go from a motivation standpoint.  On the easy spin days I bet you could rack up a billable hour while getting in a light workout.

 
Don't take this the wrong way, but you work 12 hour days and your wife seems to drink wine most nights and you have to get up in the middle of the night to feed the kids?  Something is wrong with this picture.

Do you have the subscription service for the Peloton?  That seems like the way to go from a motivation standpoint.  On the easy spin days I bet you could rack up a billable hour while getting in a light workout.
You ever stay home with 2 young kids week after week.   I'd rather work the 12 hour days.   

 
I think one of the reasons people become fat is because people are not comfortable being HUNGRY.

Once the feeling of hunger starts to settle...BOOM....soda and chips, fast foods, cup cake, banana, protein bar, etc. People are in such a frenzy to get rid of hunger that they're constantly eating so they never feel hungry. There's nothing wrong with being hungry.

When I cut, I've learned to accept hunger and realize unless I'm doing some physically strenuous activity it can wait an hour or two before I eat. The "hunger" usually goes away once you stop thinking about it and if it really bothers you...just drink a glass of water/coffee/unsweetened ice tea/coke zero/etc.

I think being hungry is a good thing and healthy thing. I try to stick to a 12 hour fast/12 eating window. That's why even though I wake up at 0630 and start work at 0700, I don't have my first meal until 1000-1100. My next meal is around 1600 and my last around 2100. This works for me because I usually don't notice being hungry at work since I'm busy and I have 2 meals at home where I have much more idle time that could be spent.....snacking. Instead I eat when I get off of work, do what I have to do, and that meal last until dinner time, which in turn last me until bedtime.

 
If I still hover at 0 weight loss after a 3rd day of taters, I'm jumping off the wagon tomorrow :lol:  

Oddly enough, I've been the strictest I've ever been. ~30-40oz of oven roasted potatoes daily with nothing but salt/pepper/oregano/vinegar. No booze. Nothing but coffee/water to drink. No food after 7pm or so. Probably the most disciplined I've ever been over a 3 day stretch. Let's see what tomorrow brings :D

 
I know this chopotle vinagrete has a lot of fat, but it goes so nicely with the carnitas,lettuce,corn,tomato bowl. 

And I greatly appreciate how they have seltzer water for free.  Never seen anywhere else even with that. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Mashed Potatoes for dinner with salt and pepper.  I did NOT want potatoes for dinner tonight but was hungry.  Ate a bowl and I feel not hungry anymore.  Starting to struggle with this.  Tomorrow at noon will be 3 full days.Haven't weighed in since Monday, was going to try to go potatoes until Monday and see what the weigh in is, but not sure I can make it.

 
If I still hover at 0 weight loss after a 3rd day of taters, I'm jumping off the wagon tomorrow :lol:  

Oddly enough, I've been the strictest I've ever been. ~30-40oz of oven roasted potatoes daily with nothing but salt/pepper/oregano/vinegar. No booze. Nothing but coffee/water to drink. No food after 7pm or so. Probably the most disciplined I've ever been over a 3 day stretch. Let's see what tomorrow brings :D
I went the past 7 days at a -1000 per day.  Got on the scale, same weight as last week  :loco:

I hate this #### when combined with logic.

 
Mashed Potatoes for dinner with salt and pepper.  I did NOT want potatoes for dinner tonight but was hungry.  Ate a bowl and I feel not hungry anymore.  Starting to struggle with this.  Tomorrow at noon will be 3 full days.Haven't weighed in since Monday, was going to try to go potatoes until Monday and see what the weigh in is, but not sure I can make it.
Start adding condiments/toppings. I make a spicy tomato sauce from scratch, low cal, and I can eat that with potatoes any day. I also make spicy lentils, veggie saag, black beans etc.

Add a little variation (and veggie protein @BassNBrew ) and you can actually make a lifestyle change.

Now, if you overdo it like Oats and start detesting potatoes, not so much

 
I just fired up some of my potatoes for lunch cause it's time, but I am sitting here thinking I am really not hungry like I used to be.  There will be some adjusting until I figure it out.

How long do you go eating just potatoes?
I'm going the whole way until final weigh-in. I did a couple months from last Easter until June and lost about 65 lbs, from 285 down to 220ish. There's ways to incorporate Potato Magic into intermittent days/runs of days/etc. There's a lot of good info in the Potato Hack book on ways to optimize.

For me, it's easier to commit to a time frame and just set my mind to that. I'd say ride it out until Monday and see how you feel and what your results are, but don't let it throw you off the good work you've been doing.

 
I'm going the whole way until final weigh-in. I did a couple months from last Easter until June and lost about 65 lbs, from 285 down to 220ish. There's ways to incorporate Potato Magic into intermittent days/runs of days/etc. There's a lot of good info in the Potato Hack book on ways to optimize.

For me, it's easier to commit to a time frame and just set my mind to that. I'd say ride it out until Monday and see how you feel and what your results are, but don't let it throw you off the good work you've been doing.
But the fact you're doing it again a year later means you gained a lot of the weight back no? 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Can someone explain how the Potato diet covers your protein needs?
Potato pimping

the original study in potatoes was done at a work prison in Ireland (or Scotland) in the late 1700s-early 1800s, and they tried a couple diets on some of the prisoners, who worked heavy manual labor all day. The ones that got put on potatoes opted to stay on that diet after the study because they felt the best and were the healthiest.

Potatoes have everything you need, nutritionally, to sustain yourself indefinitely, except Vitamin B12. And it would take a long, long time to develop a B12 deficiency. They were responsible for the population boom in Ireland. They have been a staple of the South American diet for centuries, keeping whole civilizations alive for months at a time when famine hit. 

 
But the fact you're doing it again a year later means you gained a lot of the weight back no? 
Yup. I went off the rails. Slowly, at first, then by the time Halloween rolled around, I was back to eating like I was 20 again. I gained a little less than 20 back by December. The last 10, I almost don't count because I was sand-bagging knowing I was going to do this contest, and wanted to over-indulge. It's why I had such a hard time starting the first week and gained.

it's always about sustainability, though. If you go back to eating 2 AM crunch wraps from Taco Bell every morning with a large coffee with 4 creams and 4 sugars (and 4 more through the day), and meat lovers pizza for dinner and a pint of Chunky Monkey at night, you're going to gain weight. That's not an indictment of the Potato Diet, that's an indictment of me failing to make real, lifestyle change.

my problem is I'm an Epicurean stuck in a body that's designed to be an ascetic. I get unreal results from the Potato diet. But my brain is conditioned to eat what tastes good to me, at the time, without regard to health. I have to Hack that software and make changes to the programming. 

 
It boggles my mind, how some people can eliminate entire food groups: carbs, fats, etc..... or just eat only potatoes, but REFUSE to count calories/macros (ie. portion control)!!!

Seriously. It's easy to do.

- Visit iifym.com -> calculators -> IIFYM calculator: input all the data, select weight loss as goal. It will give you how many calories you need consume and the exact breakdown of protein, fats, and carbs.

- Download myfitnesspal on your phone.

- Buy a food scale ($15 bucks on Amazon) and measuring cups.

- Track your calories/macros whenever you eat. At this point all you should really focus on (1) hitting or being under the total caloric limit AND (2) meeting the recommend protein intake to ensure you keep your muscle. I don't pay strict attention to carbs and fat because BOTH ARE SOURCES of ENERGY and in a deficit your body should use both. Also don't worry about hitting it those exactly, if you're a little more on protein or a little under it's fine as along as you stay at or under the caloric limit.

I know it seems daunting and time consuming, but just do it. Once you start, you realize it's not that hard and you can eat pretty much everything... you just need to budget. After a while it's super fast (since you probably eat the same foods) and I pretty much treat it as a daily puzzle. Of course cooking meals at home is best, but most chain restaurants are in the app and if you eat somewhere that's not a chain restaurant just find something similar or break it down as if you were making it at home. Plus you can also scan the UPC codes and it will input all the data for you. The great thing is you're not relying on some unsustainable diet...you're building habits that you can use the rest our your life. 

Again, if you guys are disciplined enough to not eat carbs or eat only potatoes for a whole month.....please, please, please give flexible dieting/IIFYM (if it fits your macros) a try.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Potato pimping

the original study in potatoes was done at a work prison in Ireland (or Scotland) in the late 1700s-early 1800s, and they tried a couple diets on some of the prisoners, who worked heavy manual labor all day. The ones that got put on potatoes opted to stay on that diet after the study because they felt the best and were the healthiest.

Potatoes have everything you need, nutritionally, to sustain yourself indefinitely, except Vitamin B12. And it would take a long, long time to develop a B12 deficiency. They were responsible for the population boom in Ireland. They have been a staple of the South American diet for centuries, keeping whole civilizations alive for months at a time when famine hit. 
Thank you for the link.  Very Interesting.

 
It boggles my mind, how some people can eliminate entire food groups: carbs, fats, etc..... or just eat only potatoes, but REFUSE to count calories/macros (ie. portion control)!!!

Seriously. It's easy to do.

- Visit iifym.com -> calculators -> IIFYM calculator: input all the data, select weight loss as goal. It will give you how many calories you need consume and the exact breakdown of protein, fats, and carbs.

- Download myfitnesspal on your phone.

- Buy a food scale ($15 bucks on Amazon) and measuring cups.

- Track your calories/macros whenever you eat. At this point all you should really focus on (1) hitting or being under the total caloric limit AND (2) meeting the recommend protein intake to ensure you keep your muscle. I don't pay strict attention to carbs and fat because BOTH ARE SOURCES of ENERGY and in a deficit your body should use both. Also don't worry about hitting it those exactly, if you're a little more on protein or a little under it's fine as along as you stay at or under the caloric limit.

I know it seems daunting and time consuming, but just do it. Once you start, you realize it's not that hard and you can eat pretty much everything... you just need to budget. After a while it's super fast (since you probably eat the same foods) and I pretty much treat it as a daily puzzle. Of course cooking meals at home is best, but most chain restaurants are in the app and if you eat somewhere that's not a chain restaurant just find something similar or break it down as if you were making it at home. Plus you can also scan the UPC codes and it will input all the data for you. The great thing is you're not relying on some unsustainable diet...you're building habits that you can use the rest our your life. 

Again, if you guys are disciplined enough to not eat carbs or eat only potatoes for a whole month.....please, please, please give flexible dieting/IIFYM (if it fits your macros) a try.
It worked for me. Lost 60 lbs using myfitnesspal and a food scale 5 years ago. It was so easy. Also here in NY most chain places have to post the calories by law making it even easier to track. I became so good at it after about a year I stopped using it and kept most of the weight off for 3 years because I knew how much calories were in everything and was able to track in my head. Until last year where I didn't give a #### what crap I put in my body. People are in their phones 24/7 but can't take 5 seconds to log their calories on the same phone. Mind boggling. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Most people don't understand how to tweak their diet late day to hit their macros if not on full prep. I sure as hell don't. And full prep is boring as ####. 

If some macro based diet is the game plan then just join weight watchers. Its the same thing more or less. 

Obligitaory link

https://youtu.be/Wd8tZiHexPc

 
I want to do prep but I hate the fact that you have to key off one meal and one snack or the math falls apart. I know there are people that can run that in their head but I would rather just do leangains or something where there isn't so much math. 

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top