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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (2 Viewers)

bradyfan said:
Just curious... how full do you get before you stop eating when you do have a meal?  70-80%? 100%? or 110% like Krista’s dinner?
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I'd say 70-80% if that.  Its a little hard for me to answer b/c I eat a lot of the same things and typically in small portions (as far as calories) that my body seems to just be accustomed to it.   For instance, most work days, I'll eat 2 meals each consisting of one sandwich tupperware container of chicken breast and steamed broccoli and 1 other meal consisting of a can of sardines.   Each of those meals is ~200 calories.   Now I know I can eat a lot more than that but that's all I eat and when I finish eating it, I'm satisfied to the point where I'm not thinking about food until 2 hours later when I have my next meal.    The meal I eat when I get home is probably roughly 600 calories so closer to your typical meal, but still a lot less than what I'd consider full.   Where I let myself go is snacking later that night.    I love to snack and rather than fight it, I've structured the rest of my day around that vice so I'll be around breaking even for the day or losing some lbs depending on how much I exercised that day.   

 
keep it up brohans you got this get healthy for you and your families and keep on feelin good take that to the bank

 
Gawain said:
I'd rather be as fat as the King of Sea Cows than be known as the guy that eats stink-### fish at work.
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I know, its really odd, but smelly fact, the fish only stinks up the joint if you microwave it.    Pro tip, a bottle of listerine at your desk is a must if you're gonna be knocking down some sardines.  

 
Did the above workout for ya oats. 

54 minutes. Average heart rate 139, max 170.  Including stretching, no sauna. The versa climber and the air dyne bike really really suck. I failed the challenge, 6:12. But I did it last as a wtf, let’s see if I can do it in 5 minutes. I’ll revisit that later this week

lets go!!

 
Otis said:
At the gym at 5, lifting weights and trying desperately to keep my heart rate low. 

lots of old ladies on the ellipticals

also I saw a kid on his bicycle doing his paper route 
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Pride is a funny thing.  It prevents you from doing what you should do b/c you think you will look foolish or not be good at it.  But, it gets over looked when you exceed the number of holes on your belt.

 
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xulf said:
Pride is a funny thing.  It prevents you from doing what you should do b/c you think you will look foolish or not be good at it.  But, it gets over looked when you exceed the number of holes on your belt.
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How bout jazzercise?  Folks still doing that?

 
Day 22:

Listened to Rocky IV soundtrack doing my exercises today - LET’S GO!!!!!

- 25,031 steps - 5 mile run

- 250 push-ups 

- 275 squats

- 275 abs (55 Flutter kicks - NEW; 55 leg lifts; 55 crunches;  55 mountain climbers; 55 teasers)

- Stretching - CHECK 

- 100 oz of water - CHECK

- Sleep - CHECK-MINUS - going to start tracking this the day after for better accuracy - so this is last night, got 7

:football:

 
AAABatteries said:
Day 22:

Listened to Rocky IV soundtrack doing my exercises today - LET’S GO!!!!!

- 25,031 steps - 5 mile run

- 250 push-ups 

- 275 squats

- 275 abs (55 Flutter kicks - NEW; 55 leg lifts; 55 crunches;  55 mountain climbers; 55 teasers)

- Stretching - CHECK 

- 100 oz of water - CHECK

- Sleep - CHECK-MINUS - going to start tracking this the day after for better accuracy - so this is last night, got 7

:football:
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I just threw up in my mouth a little.

 
Ok, so it wasn’t a super clean eating week.  No excuse for it other than I let it go off the rails a little. But there are positives. 
- Fasted Sunday night - Tuesday night

- Gym four mornings — recently I had been scaling back to three. Four is the schedule I’m supposed to be on. 

- Stayed the course with the drinking. It was limited to white wine spritzers in the evening (half seltzer water).  A few of those each night ends up being really a glass and a half of wine, completely within healthy guidelines.

The downside is I rolled off keto, and instead of healthy meals and no snacking, had some snacks and sweets.  Nothing overly gluttonous, but it kept this from being a stellar week.  A business trip midweek is where it went off the rails, and then I carried that through to yesterday.

We press forward and build on it; look to improve next week.  No matter what, even this week is light years better than where I was a couple months ago.  Progress.  I’ll take it.

 
Otis said:
We do the best we can.  The 48 hour fast to start the week was probably enough to offset it and then some, but still, it could have been better.
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Isnt the point, but I never expected you to get that point. You refuse to acknowledge this is one of the primary sources of your repeated failures to get and stay healthy, so of course it derailed this week. Cause it derails every week. 

 
MAC_32 said:
Isnt the point, but I never expected you to get that point. You refuse to acknowledge this is one of the primary sources of your repeated failures to get and stay healthy, so of course it derailed this week. Cause it derails every week. 
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If your point is “Otis you should eat healthy on business trips too,” yeah, I get that.

 
Otis said:
If your point is “Otis you should eat healthy on business trips too,” yeah, I get that.
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No you dont. Your words say it, your actions dont. You make temporary changes within your comfortable structure when the problems primarily exist outside of your comfortable structure. Making difficult changes is...difficult. Like most you seek the easy way out and avoid the primary conflicts. Then failure becomes a when, not an if. 

 
MAC_32 said:
No you dont. Your words say it, your actions dont. You make temporary changes within your comfortable structure when the problems primarily exist outside of your comfortable structure. Making difficult changes is...difficult. Like most you seek the easy way out and avoid the primary conflicts. Then failure becomes a when, not an if. 
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I believe the failure is Mrs. Otis's failure.  I believe she subverts his efforts and enables and subtly encourages sloth because she knows that AdonisOtis will be attracting the attention and intentions of HBFA's.  She wants him domesticated, not running free across the great plains as god intended.

 
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Ditkaless Wonders said:
I believe the failure is Mrs. Otis's failure.  I believe she subverts his efforts and enables and subtly encourages sloth because she knows that AdonisOtis will be attracting the attentions and intentions of HBFA's.  She wants him domesticated, not running free across the great plains as god intended.
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Pretty smart of her actually.  Then she can send SlothOtis to hunt and gather while she garners the attention of AdonisYardDude back at the mansion.

 
Otis said:
Ok, so it wasn’t a super clean eating week.  No excuse for it other than I let it go off the rails a little. But there are positives. 
- Fasted Sunday night - Tuesday night

- Gym four mornings — recently I had been scaling back to three. Four is the schedule I’m supposed to be on. 

- Stayed the course with the drinking. It was limited to white wine spritzers in the evening (half seltzer water).  A few of those each night ends up being really a glass and a half of wine, completely within healthy guidelines.

The downside is I rolled off keto, and instead of healthy meals and no snacking, had some snacks and sweets.  Nothing overly gluttonous, but it kept this from being a stellar week.  A business trip midweek is where it went off the rails, and then I carried that through to yesterday.

We press forward and build on it; look to improve next week.  No matter what, even this week is light years better than where I was a couple months ago.  Progress.  I’ll take it.
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How long are your business trips?  Are these client puffing trips or nuts and bolts lawyering trips?

 
@OtisWhat does a non-fasting, non-keto day look like for you? I know you said "healthy meals" and "no snacking", but what do your actual meals look like? Do you track your calories or just wing it?  Do you go into the day with a plan for what you're going to eat or just decide along the way?

 
Otis said:
If your point is “Otis you should eat healthy on business trips too,” yeah, I get that.
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I agree this is hard.  When the group goes out to the best Italian restaurant in the city the last thing I want is some dry lettuce and half a tomato.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I believe the failure is Mrs. Otis's failure.  I believe she subverts his efforts and enables and subtly encourages sloth because she knows that AdonisOtis will be attracting the attention and intentions of HBFA's.  She wants him domesticated, not running free across the great plains as god intended.
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Pretty par for the course.   As marriages age, women care less about how a man looks and more about how much money he's bringing home.   

 
So I absolutely HATE running.  I do enjoy Mountain Biking, however.  My Wife is a runner and keeps bugging me that such and such and her husband run races together blah blah blah.  So I found this app called Zombies Run a while back where you run around and through your earbuds you have to collect supplies, etc to build your camp, and then run away from Zombies.  Who knows.  Lets see if it works.

 
NutterButter said:
Rough life having to go to the finest italian restaurant in the city on the company's dime.  T&P.
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I do not travel near as much as before.  It was nice but I would say 3 out of 4 days I would eat by myself at Panera bread, etc working.  I was up to around 70% of the time on the road (non-sales job) at that.  I left for a lesser job, mainly for the purpose of being able to stay at home with the family more often.  I traded the travel for a 2 hour round trip.  2 hours on a good day.

 
ragincajun said:
I do not travel near as much as before.  It was nice but I would say 3 out of 4 days I would eat by myself at Panera bread, etc working.  I was up to around 70% of the time on the road (non-sales job) at that.  I left for a lesser job, mainly for the purpose of being able to stay at home with the family more often.  I traded the travel for a 2 hour round trip.  2 hours on a good day.
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Geez --- both that travel schedule and round trip sounds terrible.  I work 3 miles from my house and have ~5 work trips per year.

 
ragincajun said:
I agree this is hard.  When the group goes out to the best Italian restaurant in the city the last thing I want is some dry lettuce and half a tomato.
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You can clean your plate on a whole restaurant portion of Italian food for about 1500 calories.  Every bite including the pasta.  

You can maintain your weight on about 2500 calories a day if you weigh 240, especially walking around the city and being moderately active.  You just need to plan your day around the fact you're planning a huge meal like that later.  

- large coffee with milk and 1 sugar 70 calories

 - bacon egg and cheese on an English muffin 300 calories

- small packaged salad for lunch 270 calories

- work out before dinner, no cardio -200 calories

- Italian meal with meat and pasta 1500 calories

- breadstick with no olive oil or butter on it, 200 calories

- no dessert

- two glasses white wine 300 calories

Total 2440 calories

Now get your coffee black, skip the breadstick and only have one glass of wine instead of two, and you are down to 2000 calories, which is a pound a week. 

The Italian dinner is not the problem. 

 
ragincajun said:
I do not travel near as much as before.  It was nice but I would say 3 out of 4 days I would eat by myself at Panera bread, etc working.  I was up to around 70% of the time on the road (non-sales job) at that.  I left for a lesser job, mainly for the purpose of being able to stay at home with the family more often.  I traded the travel for a 2 hour round trip.  2 hours on a good day.
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So it sounds like it should be those 3 or 4 days that you should be winning to compensate for that night at the italian joint where you're gonna go off the rails.  

 
bostonfred said:
@OtisWhat does a non-fasting, non-keto day look like for you? I know you said "healthy meals" and "no snacking", but what do your actual meals look like? Do you track your calories or just wing it?  Do you go into the day with a plan for what you're going to eat or just decide along the way?
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Depends what you think about the quality of the food when he eats out. At best it's one third junk food and alcohol. At worst, a good day is north of 50%. And that's the in structure version. 

He provided a sample diet sometime in August if you want to dig back and look. 

 
bostonfred said:
You can clean your plate on a whole restaurant portion of Italian food for about 1500 calories.  Every bite including the pasta.  

You can maintain your weight on about 2500 calories a day if you weigh 240, especially walking around the city and being moderately active.  You just need to plan your day around the fact you're planning a huge meal like that later.  

- large coffee with milk and 1 sugar 70 calories

 - bacon egg and cheese on an English muffin 300 calories

- small packaged salad for lunch 270 calories

- work out before dinner, no cardio -200 calories

- Italian meal with meat and pasta 1500 calories

- breadstick with no olive oil or butter on it, 200 calories

- no dessert

- two glasses white wine 300 calories

Total 2440 calories

Now get your coffee black, skip the breadstick and only have one glass of wine instead of two, and you are down to 2000 calories, which is a pound a week. 

The Italian dinner is not the problem. 
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Just to hammer this home

When i was putting on weight, this sounded like a diet to me.  You mean i have to eat salads and work out and can't snack at all?  

When i was seriously dieting this sounded like a cheat day. A full restaurant meal, with a breadstick and alcohol, and still having breakfast and lunch and no cardio?  

When you're maintaining, this sounds like a fairly normal day.  I don't always eat a huge meal but when i do i save my appetite so i can enjoy it. 

 
bostonfred said:
@OtisWhat does a non-fasting, non-keto day look like for you? I know you said "healthy meals" and "no snacking", but what do your actual meals look like? Do you track your calories or just wing it?  Do you go into the day with a plan for what you're going to eat or just decide along the way?
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A lot of winging it. My eating days involve coffee for breakfast and a couple other coffees throughout the day. Usually skip lunch. Just not a big lunch guy. And then I go home and eat whatever Mrs O made it it’s keto or healthy; she’s pretty good about, even if the kids ate something like Mac and cheese that night, making me a couple chicken breast and steamed broccoli and leaving it out. So I’ll have that. Maybe some nuts or a cracker or two as a snack, some cheese or cold cuts, trying to keep carbs below 20 or so. Maybe a piece or dark chocolate or keto bark. Maybe a Bud Select 55 or 3; or a white wine spritzer with some cheese in front of the TV. Go to bed, gym in the morning.  
:shrug:

Thats kind of a usual weekday for me. Obviously it changes if I have a work lunch, where I’ll have a salad or piece of fish and water. 
 

 
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