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"If the brain was so simple we could understand it, we would be so stupid we couldn't" someone smart once saidSo strange to me that we can split the atom and put a man on the moon, and yet we can’t even figure out how our own bodies work.
on the plus side for you scanny is known for its granola and yogurt culture and mountain biking everywhere so you will probably come out of the trip down 5 poundaronis take that to the bank brohanOtis said:Weighed in at 231.3 this morning, right around my recent low. That’s despite a somewhat sloppy Sunday (intentionally so), and a big lunch meal out at a fancy restaurant (it actually wasn’t much in terms of quantity, a fancy schmancy place, I guess that’s why).
For whatever it’s worth, another good sign is the body fat % keeps decreasing. 25% this week, it was in the mid 26% range last week, and the 27-28% range the week before. So, even though weight isn’t dropping like crazy, seems a good development. I do need to get down into the 220s and start marching toward my goal weight here, but I’m in no hurry — I’m living just fine, and I’ll get there.
Another run this morning. In a hotel today in Wiconsin — will have a meal out with clients tonight, will try and be somewhat healthy about it.
My 8yo learned how to ride her bike without training wheels finally, so we’ve been talking about weekend rides around town with me jogging and her riding alongside. Would be nice to regularly build in some family + exercise time all in one shot.
I really admire your diligence, but overtraining may sabotage your goals.Anecdote with no point time:
I've been doing the daily workouts (Operation Six Pack) which was wearing me down. I did the challenge on Saturday and then Sunday morning planned on a long run at what is a decent pace for me. I finished and I was dead - legs were hurting and just didn't feel like doing anything else...for basically 48 hours while I ate and drank whatever I wanted because hey, I ran a long way. So, after 2 days I had put on weight, legs still hurt and I've missed 2 days of my challenge. I'm not rethinking my long runs, I enjoy them. And I'm not even sure what the point of this post is other than it made me realize that some goals may end up competing with each other so I need to decide how to mesh them or at a minimum, prioritize them.
I did IF yesterday, did a recover run and plan to jump back in to my challenge today. The good news is after all that I did drop a little weight but not sure I'm any closer with Operation Six Pack.
Great work in here by DW, ew, krista, boot, Bass and others I'm forgetting. Oh, and GB Otis.
LET'S GO!!!!
You did the right thing listening to your body. Sounds like classic overtraining.Anecdote with no point time:
I've been doing the daily workouts (Operation Six Pack) which was wearing me down. I did the challenge on Saturday and then Sunday morning planned on a long run at what is a decent pace for me. I finished and I was dead - legs were hurting and just didn't feel like doing anything else...for basically 48 hours while I ate and drank whatever I wanted because hey, I ran a long way. So, after 2 days I had put on weight, legs still hurt and I've missed 2 days of my challenge. I'm not rethinking my long runs, I enjoy them. And I'm not even sure what the point of this post is other than it made me realize that some goals may end up competing with each other so I need to decide how to mesh them or at a minimum, prioritize them.
I did IF yesterday, did a recover run and plan to jump back in to my challenge today. The good news is after all that I did drop a little weight but not sure I'm any closer with Operation Six Pack.
Great work in here by DW, ew, krista, boot, Bass and others I'm forgetting. Oh, and GB Otis.
LET'S GO!!!!
218.6 this morning so up 2 pounds. Good news is the abs are already peaking thru. Back on the workout train tonightAnecdote with no point time:
I've been doing the daily workouts (Operation Six Pack) which was wearing me down. I did the challenge on Saturday and then Sunday morning planned on a long run at what is a decent pace for me. I finished and I was dead - legs were hurting and just didn't feel like doing anything else...for basically 48 hours while I ate and drank whatever I wanted because hey, I ran a long way. So, after 2 days I had put on weight, legs still hurt and I've missed 2 days of my challenge. I'm not rethinking my long runs, I enjoy them. And I'm not even sure what the point of this post is other than it made me realize that some goals may end up competing with each other so I need to decide how to mesh them or at a minimum, prioritize them.
I did IF yesterday, did a recover run and plan to jump back in to my challenge today. The good news is after all that I did drop a little weight but not sure I'm any closer with Operation Six Pack.
Great work in here by DW, ew, krista, boot, Bass and others I'm forgetting. Oh, and GB Otis.
LET'S GO!!!!
Maybe I missed it, but did you end up peeing a bunch this past weekend and dropping those 8 pounds?218.6 this morning so up 2 pounds. Good news is the abs are already peaking thru. Back on the workout train tonight
I skipped my first morning ride and treadmill time in over 107 days this Monday. I had a hearing involving the upcoming election and went into work at 4:00AM for a bit more prep. (I won). Back at it yesterday and today. Ate correctly over the weekend and really, since I started, but I did eat too much, maybe, this weekend (T-bones were on sale and I had one for lunch and again for dinner). It will be interesting to get on the scale tomorrow.Anecdote with no point time:
I've been doing the daily workouts (Operation Six Pack) which was wearing me down. I did the challenge on Saturday and then Sunday morning planned on a long run at what is a decent pace for me. I finished and I was dead - legs were hurting and just didn't feel like doing anything else...for basically 48 hours while I ate and drank whatever I wanted because hey, I ran a long way. So, after 2 days I had put on weight, legs still hurt and I've missed 2 days of my challenge. I'm not rethinking my long runs, I enjoy them. And I'm not even sure what the point of this post is other than it made me realize that some goals may end up competing with each other so I need to decide how to mesh them or at a minimum, prioritize them.
I did IF yesterday, did a recover run and plan to jump back in to my challenge today. The good news is after all that I did drop a little weight but not sure I'm any closer with Operation Six Pack.
Great work in here by DW, ew, krista, boot, Bass and others I'm forgetting. Oh, and GB Otis.
LET'S GO!!!!
some goals may end up competing with each other so I need to decide how to mesh them or at a minimum, prioritize them.
Yes, but the 12 beers may have helped that.Maybe I missed it, but did you end up peeing a bunch this past weekend and dropping those 8 pounds?
I really admire your diligence, but overtraining may sabotage your goals.
I think you are both right and why I took a couple days off from the routine. I was really focusing on sleep thinking that would help and it did some but not sure enough. I’m going to continue to focus on sleep and rest and more importantly stretching and flexibility- I think that is my biggest weakness right now.You did the right thing listening to your body. Sounds like classic overtraining.
Remember that the most important part of any workout is the recovery. That's when all the magic happens.I think you are both right and why I took a couple days off from the routine. I was really focusing on sleep thinking that would help and it did some but not sure enough. I’m going to continue to focus on sleep and rest and more importantly stretching and flexibility- I think that is my biggest weakness right now.
Yeah, those mild winters you have sound brutal. May even need to put on a long sleeveI’ve not lifted any during this - just body weight exercises. I like Mac’s idea of focus on weights and plan to stop at Thanksgiving and then see - most likely take some or all of that week off from running and then hit the weights in January when the sucky weather comes.
You are still doing strength training, which is the same thing. The pushup is weight lifting: you are using your body as the weight. Same with squats, etc.I’ve not lifted any during this - just body weight exercises. I like Mac’s idea of focus on weights and plan to stop at Thanksgiving and then see - most likely take some or all of that week off from running and then hit the weights in January when the sucky weather comes.
You may get there simply by crapping out those cheese curds. They tend to stay in you for a few days, weighing you down. have some roughage and some water and watch that weight fall right off. When they finally stop clinging to your intestines they will pull other stuff off with them, be prepared, have matches and a candle at the ready. Anticipate it and have that candle pre-lit. Godspeed Otis.229.0
24.7%
[OSTART 9/16/19 at 240.1, 26.1% — so averaging just over 2lbs per week]
Bam! 220s. What’s odd is I did it despite a crummy week where I traveled, ate some junk, and drank real alcohol a couple nights. It’s like my body is on track and paying dividends for recent weeks.
I have kept up with the running and the distance is getting a little better each time. I’d like to get to the point where I’m running a 5k three times a week, and lifting 2-3 days a week. Hard in the work travel weeks, but otherwise doable. I will say, my knees and bum ankle were a little sore my last couple runs. Need to keep an eye on that. As I continue to lose weight, that can only help.
Looking for a good reasonable weekend, so the march down to 225 can continue next week.
1) congratulations on a major milestone. Getting back into the 220s is a huge accomplishment. Genuinely proud of you.229.0
24.7%
[OSTART 9/16/19 at 240.1, 26.1% — so averaging just over 2lbs per week]
Bam! 220s. What’s odd is I did it despite a crummy week where I traveled, ate some junk, and drank real alcohol a couple nights. It’s like my body is on track and paying dividends for recent weeks.
I have kept up with the running and the distance is getting a little better each time. I’d like to get to the point where I’m running a 5k three times a week, and lifting 2-3 days a week. Hard in the work travel weeks, but otherwise doable. I will say, my knees and bum ankle were a little sore my last couple runs. Need to keep an eye on that. As I continue to lose weight, that can only help.
Looking for a good reasonable weekend, so the march down to 225 can continue next week.
I can't help it you people are nuts.Yeah, those mild winters you have sound brutal. May even need to put on a long sleeve
Uh...his picture is right under his nameWow - never knew you were black.
Incredible232.5 this morning.
Been putting in 12 hour days over the past week so have been hitting McDonalds for a coffee and Egg McMuffin. There's not a ton of calories, but the sodium isn't something I'm crazy about.
In three months and two days, I'm down 60.6 pounds. Have had to replace a bit of my wardrobe. 42" pants don't work anymore and 40" are too big, but work with a belt. 7.5 more pounds to get to my married weight of 225 (and the lowest I've been in 8 years or so).
Man, awesome work. I need to read back on what you are doing and take notes. Keep it up.232.5 this morning.
Been putting in 12 hour days over the past week so have been hitting McDonalds for a coffee and Egg McMuffin. There's not a ton of calories, but the sodium isn't something I'm crazy about.
In three months and two days, I'm down 60.6 pounds. Have had to replace a bit of my wardrobe. 42" pants don't work anymore and 40" are too big, but work with a belt. 7.5 more pounds to get to my married weight of 225 (and the lowest I've been in 8 years or so).
Awesome Gawain - one recommendation is try not to buy too many clothes until you get to your goal weight. I just recently had to buy some 30" pants (LOOK AT ME!) and now have some 34" pants that got little wear to box up.Gawain said:232.5 this morning.
Been putting in 12 hour days over the past week so have been hitting McDonalds for a coffee and Egg McMuffin. There's not a ton of calories, but the sodium isn't something I'm crazy about.
In three months and two days, I'm down 60.6 pounds. Have had to replace a bit of my wardrobe. 42" pants don't work anymore and 40" are too big, but work with a belt. 7.5 more pounds to get to my married weight of 225 (and the lowest I've been in 8 years or so).
How do you feel?I had two slices of pizza for lunch today. And a Bud Select 55. Normally that would be the start of an afternoon of eating and drinking.
But now? Instead, late afternoon went and ran/walked 3.3 miles. Came back. Had a light/healthy dinner, some evening snacks, and white wine spritzers. To bed early, will get up in the morning and hit the weights.
Great. Just wish I’d have done this a year earlier. Or several.How do you feel?
Are you running on the sidewalk or roads? Try softer surfaces like a trail or track.Great. Just wish I’d have done this a year earlier. Or several.
I will say, knees still sore. Lots of soreness when I went to bed and tried to sleep. I’m taking it as BF suggested, just a matter of all those stabilizing muscles and tendons and ligaments adjusting, and not anything about the joints specifically. Will be keeping an eye on it though and making sure I’m getting the rest days I need.
Yes sidewalk and roads. I guess I could drive over to the high school track and run there. Feels like a PIA though. No trails around here.Are you running on the sidewalk or roads? Try softer surfaces like a trail or track.
Believe me, I get it - it is a PITA and I’m not a hotshot lawyer with 3 young kids so I have the time to do it. But, at my age (45) - if I run on roads or sidewalks my knees almost always hurt the next day. Not to mention trail running is awesome.Yes sidewalk and roads. I guess I could drive over to the high school track and run there. Feels like a PIA though. No trails around here.
You don't have to do that just yet.Yes sidewalk and roads. I guess I could drive over to the high school track and run there. Feels like a PIA though. No trails around here.
I ear marked this post when I read it - too much, too fast, too soon is how most new to running end up on the shelf. A good running regimen is built around restraint, no matter your experience. I know you can run faster, but right now you shouldn't. There will be a time to increase the pace and derive more benefits, but not til your body's ready for it.Sunday morning run in the books. Slowly increasing my pace and running more of the distance.
Would be curious to see that if you have anything. I always figured running was just running, never bothered with form. Maybe this will help.You don't have to do that just yet.
First, take it slow as BF said. No race. Second, read and watch a little on running form. I can link a few things here if you want. Some basic things you can make sure you're doing when you run will likely help eliminate discomfort.
This is super good advice. There is nothing more infuriating than wanting to get out and run but you can't b/c of an injury --- this is way more frustrating than having to back off on distance or speed to remain healthy.I ear marked this post when I read it - too much, too fast, too soon is how most new to running end up on the shelf. A good running regimen is built around restraint, no matter your experience. I know you can run faster, but right now you shouldn't. There will be a time to increase the pace and derive more benefits, but not til your body's ready for it.
Read this for basicsWould be curious to see that if you have anything. I always figured running was just running, never bothered with form. Maybe this will help.
Read this for basics
One of the biggest things is overstriding. You want me to make sure your foot is underneath you when you land. If it's out in front, you are essentially braking with every step and sending a jolt into your muscles and joints with every step.
One of the best ways I've found to help with this is to think of running as quietly as possible.
I'll pull up some pictures and/or video later on to help with this.
Yep. And @Otis - think smaller, shorter steps. You will take more of them, but you aren't putting nearly the jolting strike on each leg, as gian noted above.Read this for basics
One of the biggest things is overstriding. You want me to make sure your foot is underneath you when you land. If it's out in front, you are essentially braking with every step and sending a jolt into your muscles and joints with every step.
One of the best ways I've found to help with this is to think of running as quietly as possible.
I'll pull up some pictures and/or video later on to help with this.
Picture illustrationRead this for basics
One of the biggest things is overstriding. You want to make sure your foot is underneath you when you land. If it's out in front, you are essentially braking with every step and sending a jolt into your muscles and joints with every step.
One of the best ways I've found to help with this is to think of running as quietly as possible.
I'll pull up some pictures and/or video later on to help with this.
listen to BF. he's spot on. i'm a little older than you, weigh 50lbs less than you i am shorter and don't have those hands. i've skied all my life and my knees ####### kill me, mostly due to obliterated meniscus's (menisci?) left outer ankle and foot are none too happy either. that's the ACL replacement side. messing up your lower extremities compounds itself up the body. into hip, back, etc. keep those knees and ankles happy.Otis said:Great. Just wish I’d have done this a year earlier. Or several.
I will say, knees still sore. Lots of soreness when I went to bed and tried to sleep. I’m taking it as BF suggested, just a matter of all those stabilizing muscles and tendons and ligaments adjusting, and not anything about the joints specifically. Will be keeping an eye on it though and making sure I’m getting the rest days I need.