Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (2 Viewers)

[bostonfred]

I’m like two months from Instagram handsome if I got committed. BIG IF 

You were. Now you're two months and a day because you are going the wrong direction.  And while it seems funny adding a pound here or there at some point you'll be three months from Instagram handsome if you're not there already. And you haven't shown the ability to put those three months in without switching to 6 tacos 3 margarita downgrade to wine spritzer and cookies, so I suspect you are going to get past 3 months from Instagram handsome. It happened to me. It happened to a lot of us.  I'm not lecturing you because I'm perfect. Far from it. I'm lecturing you because this is your diet thread. 

 

[fred_1_15301]

Nobody said this would be easy but there is a reason why we are all posting in this thread.  Health is a priority for each of us.  That’s a step in the right direction.

 

[kevzilla]

There just aren't a lot of really old, really fat people. There's a reason. And since I intend to get really old, I need to stop being fat.

I'll turn 59 this week. When I turn 60, I want to be out of the morbid obesity range. I'll need to average a pound a week, and I've done that virtually every week when I ate like I should.

 

[fred_1_15301]

There just aren't a lot of really old, really fat people. There's a reason. And since I intend to get really old, I need to stop being fat.

I'll turn 59 this week. When I turn 60, I want to be out of the morbid obesity range. I'll need to average a pound a week, and I've done that virtually every week when I ate like I should.

No doubt in my mind you'll get there GB.  You're on the right path.

 

[krista4]

No doubt in my mind you'll get there GB.  You're on the right path.

Yep, kev is a hero in this thread.  Doing an amazing job.

 

[fred_1_15301]

You were. Now you're two months and a day because you are going the wrong direction.  And while it seems funny adding a pound here or there at some point you'll be three months from Instagram handsome if you're not there already. And you haven't shown the ability to put those three months in without switching to 6 tacos 3 margarita downgrade to wine spritzer and cookies, so I suspect you are going to get past 3 months from Instagram handsome. It happened to me. It happened to a lot of us.  I'm not lecturing you because I'm perfect. Far from it. I'm lecturing you because this is your diet thread. 

I think it was maybe @MAC_32 that said it earlier in this thread but I feel like the only way Otis will truly change is if he seeks professional help (e.g. personal trainer).  He needs someone to hold him accountable when the desired results aren't achieved.  He can afford it so it just comes down to how much he actually wants to change.

 

[kevzilla]

Yep, kev is a hero in this thread.  Doing an amazing job.

Today you walked as far as I will all week 

 

[krista4]

Today you walked as far as I will all week 

I do have the advantage of not being in 95 degree weather and 90% humidity.    

 

[DA RAIDERS]

My problem isn't even eating.  I think I do a good job of controlling myself there.  And I definitely do a good job with exercise.  I just drink too much.  Way too much.  And I don't get nearly enough sleep.  

Same

 

[Zasada]

@Otis, get back on the rower!  Is there a goal you can set?  Motivation toward a goal is always easier.  Is running still off the table?  Set a goal for a 5K?  10K?  Half?

Getting up to a 40" waist is what was the tipping point for me 10 years ago.  Now I'm down to 32".  And fear of getting back to that 40" (or having to buy new work clothes) is a great motivator to keep at it. 

Tack-on Strava, running with RL friends, and the best iFriends (10K thread) in the universe, and forming good habits is not that hard.  

And stop drinking your calories.  No faster way to flush your efforts down the drain.  A thousand times, this.  How about a no-booze week?  Month?  See how it goes?

 

[Otis]

Ok I’m in. Let’s see if we can start putting together a better week. 

LETS GO

 

[Otis]

@Otis, get back on the rower!  Is there a goal you can set?  Motivation toward a goal is always easier.  Is running still off the table?  Set a goal for a 5K?  10K?  Half?

Getting up to a 40" waist is what was the tipping point for me 10 years ago.  Now I'm down to 32".  And fear of getting back to that 40" (or having to buy new work clothes) is a great motivator to keep at it. 

Tack-on Strava, running with RL friends, and the best iFriends (10K thread) in the universe, and forming good habits is not that hard.  

And stop drinking your calories.  No faster way to flush your efforts down the drain.  A thousand times, this.  How about a no-booze week?  Month?  See how it goes?

Yeah a no booze month would be an automatic loss of 10lbs for me.  The challenge is 7pm after a long day. We’ll see if we can start with today. 

 

[Zasada]

Yeah a no booze month would be an automatic loss of 10lbs for me.  The challenge is 7pm after a long day. We’ll see if we can start with today. 

 

[SWC]

hey oats get r dun take that to the bank bromigo

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Oats,

just don't buy the booze. Seems dumb. But it works.  And instead of the cocktail at 7, take a walk.  

Love ya dude 

 

[kevzilla]

Sunday is always the night where I struggle to get to sleep on schedule. It showed in my walk, where I slowed to an 18:19 pace, and it felt slower than that. Not a big problem, though.

 

[berndog]

Rowed 3300M in 20 minutes and ending HR was 88.  
The last few minutes I could feel it in my lower back so need to get better form. 

 

[bostonfred]

I blew my whole day's calories at lunch. The first day or two after shopping is always tough for me until I'm left with nothing but salad. Day 16 yoga with Adriene and some running bought me almost enough calories to make another lobster roll with the remaining meat so I asked myself, what would Otis do, and finished with some extra pushups and situps before taking a shower. 

 

[Otis]

Didn’t exercise today but really didn’t each much either. Maybe that’s the secret. Just hang out. Don’t exercise. But don’t really eat. Just don’t do much of anything. 

 

[gianmarco]

Didn’t exercise today but really didn’t each much either. Maybe that’s the secret. Just hang out. Don’t exercise. But don’t really eat. Just don’t do much of anything. 

The secret is there's a new secret every day. 

 

[bostonfred]

Didn’t exercise today but really didn’t each much either. Maybe that’s the secret. Just hang out. Don’t exercise. But don’t really eat. Just don’t do much of anything. 

It's definitely part of your issue. You've built some bad bad habits.

- wife gets McDonald's, you get McDonald's 

- gorging on Mexican brunch because it's the weekend

- alcohol at brunch, alcohol most nights, food after alcohol

-  daily snacks like cookies

- picking at your kid's leftover food

- skipping exercise and acting like that's permission to quit altogether 

- not committing to an actual goal that matters enough to you to do something about it 

- believing that you can lose this at any time, while gradually getting older and fatter and having less time to exercise and a lower metabolism 

You have indeed found part of the secret though. It's not a very well kept secret you just need to actually do it. 

 

[fred_1_15301]

My son turned 6 today so wife and I took the day off and we went on a long family hike/picnic.  I ate pretty good (with the exception of the piece of ice cream cake) all day by limiting my portions.  Didn't get a chance to exercise much (only 10 minutes) with the exception of the hike.  On another note, I didn't drink at all.  I'm going to continue that trend on weeknights going forward.  I drank too much last night and felt lethargic on my son's bday.  Wasn't a good feeling.

 

[krista4]

Didn’t exercise today but really didn’t each much either. Maybe that’s the secret. Just hang out. Don’t exercise. But don’t really eat. Just don’t do much of anything. 

Potential theme song

 

[krista4]

- believing that you can lose this at any time, while gradually getting older and fatter and having less time to exercise and a lower metabolism 

This can't be overstated, at least in my experience.  I gradually put on weight because it was a few pounds I could just lose when I wanted.  And then I found myself overweight from those few extra pounds I could lose any time, plus the next few, plus the next...  I think it's an issue for Otis and me and those of us who have lived our lives generally thin...it feels like "not us" and so it's something we can just shed whenever since it's not part of our core being.  But then it creeps up and becomes part of us.

I look at pics of myself from a year ago, when I still thought I had just put on a few pounds I could lose anytime, and :X  .

 

[eaganwildcats]

Sunday night got in a 5K row because I was feeling too lazy to do a full 30 minutes. Got 30 in last night as well - 7086m and 152 avg HR. 

 

[kevzilla]

My back was pretty tight when I started, not surprised my pace was 18:25. Still markedly better than just a few weeks ago.

 

[SWC]

brohans i am calling everyone out to do a hard five you can stop at 5pm on saturday but kick butt until then lets do this so today i already walked or kzd as i now call it for 93 minutes and i have only had 380 calories of nature valley almond biscuits to eat i will get home and ride my bike for at least 60 to 80 maybe more and get 15 to 20 miles in and then some dinner a ton of water and watch a good show while i fall off to sleep in my chair so who is with me on my five day journey along the path of the brohan to the bank

 

[kevzilla]

brohans i am calling everyone out to do a hard five you can stop at 5pm on saturday but kick butt until then lets do this so today i already walked or kzd as i now call it for 93 minutes and i have only had 380 calories of nature valley almond biscuits to eat i will get home and ride my bike for at least 60 to 80 maybe more and get 15 to 20 miles in and then some dinner a ton of water and watch a good show while i fall off to sleep in my chair so who is with me on my five day journey along the path of the brohan to the bank

I know why your doctors are concerned about your caloric intake now. Throw a spoonful of peanut butter or something in there.

KZ'd 

 

[SWC]

got a good 1 hour and 50 minute ride in for 21 miles and now i am going to eat literally whatever in the he double hockey sticks i want for dinner take that to the bank bromigos 

 

[Don't Toews Me]

got a good 1 hour and 50 minute ride in for 21 miles and now i am going to eat literally whatever in the he double hockey sticks i want for dinner take that to the bank bromigos 

My link

 

[fred_1_15301]

got a good 1 hour and 50 minute ride in for 21 miles and now i am going to eat literally whatever in the he double hockey sticks i want for dinner take that to the bank bromigos 

You may have mentioned this before but how health conscious were you before the heart attack?  What was your eating, drinking, smoking habits like?  How often did you exercise?

 

[SWC]

You may have mentioned this before but how health conscious were you before the heart attack?  What was your eating, drinking, smoking habits like?  How often did you exercise?

i am going to break this up in to a couple of posts first what i was before february i went to the gym normally 5 to 6 days a week alternating on the elptical one day and weights the next my average day was get to work at 6 eat no breakfast but drink and i mean this about 2 gallons of straight black coffee a day maybe have a lunch which was normally junk food and then finally after doing activities i committed to after work would get home about 9 and throw in a pizza or tacos or whatever was quick and easy but i was active had muscles and did not look obese according to buddies who talk to me now about my weight loss to be continued take that to the bank brohan

 

[SWC]

after my procedure the doc told me that looking at me i didnt give any indication of being a heart attack candidate but when i told her my schedule and my stress load and what i ate and how i ate she said if she could write up instructions to have a heart attack it would be my daily routine to be continued take that to the bank 

 

[SWC]

i have never smoked except cigars sometimes but i drank probably too much as my posting here would indicate i guess on friday and saturday nights and rarely during the week too if it was a bad or long day which is totally the wrong reason to be drinking from a health and mental health standpoint anyhow to be continued take that to the bank

 

[SWC]

so the big changes are that i actually eat three squares now low in sodium low in fat and i have not had coffee since the hospital where they gave me enough of the good stuff to get me through the withdrawal headaches and now my workouts are longer and more cardio based and i have only had about 8 beers since february and frankly the weight has melted off i am at a bmi of about 23 now and have lost about 50 pounds it just works even though the working out is low impact and my docs made me take one day a week for me so i just go fishing once a week which is a pretty great prescription to be honest and covid has actually helped me slow down so it has not been that bad on my end but hey no new puppies here lol so that is my story take that to the bank bromigos 

 

[fred_1_15301]

so the big changes are that i actually eat three squares now low in sodium low in fat and i have not had coffee since the hospital where they gave me enough of the good stuff to get me through the withdrawal headaches and now my workouts are longer and more cardio based and i have only had about 8 beers since february and frankly the weight has melted off i am at a bmi of about 23 now and have lost about 50 pounds it just works even though the working out is low impact and my docs made me take one day a week for me so i just go fishing once a week which is a pretty great prescription to be honest and covid has actually helped me slow down so it has not been that bad on my end but hey no new puppies here lol so that is my story take that to the bank bromigos 

Great to hear.  It’s a little scary because you were already fairly active, didn’t drink excessively, didn’t smoke and it still happened.  Definitely a good reality check that everyone should learn from.  I’m definitely going to take your story to heart.  Thanks for sharing brohan.

 

[gianmarco]

Great to hear.  It’s a little scary because you were already fairly active, didn’t drink excessively, didn’t smoke and it still happened.  Definitely a good reality check that everyone should learn from.  I’m definitely going to take your story to heart the bank.  Thanks for sharing brohan.

FYP

 

[Otis]

How about a diet in which you can only eat as many calories as you burn through exercise?  So a long row in the morning and a long walk in the evening and boom there’s your thousand calories, don’t spend it all in one place?

 

[fred_1_15301]

so the big changes are that i actually eat three squares now low in sodium low in fat and i have not had coffee since the hospital where they gave me enough of the good stuff to get me through the withdrawal headaches and now my workouts are longer and more cardio based and i have only had about 8 beers since february and frankly the weight has melted off i am at a bmi of about 23 now and have lost about 50 pounds it just works even though the working out is low impact and my docs made me take one day a week for me so i just go fishing once a week which is a pretty great prescription to be honest and covid has actually helped me slow down so it has not been that bad on my end but hey no new puppies here lol so that is my story take that to the bank bromigos 

And I am about to do a 45 minute body combat and no booze or ice cream afterwards so wadda ya think about taking that to the bank bromigo?

 

[Otis]

Man I’d love this two pack of Milanos but I’ve spent my calories for the day. BRB gotta to walk off 110 calories!

 

[DocHolliday]

so the big changes are that i actually eat three squares now low in sodium low in fat and i have not had coffee since the hospital where they gave me enough of the good stuff to get me through the withdrawal headaches and now my workouts are longer and more cardio based and i have only had about 8 beers since february and frankly the weight has melted off i am at a bmi of about 23 now and have lost about 50 pounds it just works even though the working out is low impact and my docs made me take one day a week for me so i just go fishing once a week which is a pretty great prescription to be honest and covid has actually helped me slow down so it has not been that bad on my end but hey no new puppies here lol so that is my story take that to the bank bromigos 

Glad you are ok.   Sadly, this story has been told by too many and too many of us still don’t take it seriously enough.   Seems like each of us has one main obstacle preventing good health.   Some struggle with too much booze or lack of exercise.   Others like me, eat a little too much and don’t eat as healthy as we should.  

 

[fred_1_15301]

Glad you are ok.   Sadly, this story has been told by too many and too many of us still don’t take it seriously enough.   Seems like each of us has one main obstacle preventing good health.   Some struggle with too much booze or lack of exercise.   Others like me, eat a little too much and don’t eat as healthy as we should.  

   But it's never too late to change.  

 

[eaganwildcats]

7200m in 30:00

 

[DA RAIDERS]

3 miles at 9000 feet. Felt good. Crazy how elevation makes the heart work harder. F’ing love it up here.  

Eta:  also went to my favorite brewery up here today. And only had 3 beers all day. I consider that a victory,  

 

[bostonfred]

How about a diet in which you can only eat as many calories as you burn through exercise?  So a long row in the morning and a long walk in the evening and boom there’s your thousand calories, don’t spend it all in one place?

Otis I support your invention of this new fad diet based on diet and exercise. In fact maybe you can add in the calories you burn during rest and regular activity. 

 

[Otis]

Otis I support your invention of this new fad diet based on diet and exercise. In fact maybe you can add in the calories you burn during rest and regular activity. 

No no no. You can’t consider the calories you burn during rest and regular activity. That’s so unfad diet. Otis extreme fad diet doesn’t count those.  Much simpler my way.

Want to eat a ham sandwich?  That’s 250 calories.  Go for a hike and then you can eat it. Boom!

 

[DocHolliday]

   But it's never too late to change.  

Very true.    It’s difficult to put it all together though.   Not an excuse, more of an observation.   

 

[kevzilla]

Started the day with a pain shooting through my left hip with each step. It eventually limbered up, but my pace was up to 18:34. I hate being a creaky old guy, but the only cure for old age is death, which sounds extreme.

 

[SWC]

kz i got the same thing happenin with my right knee at the moment and it is not cool it goes away after about a mile but it stinks until then i try warming up etc but all that seems to work is working through it being old is a crapfestival the likes of which i thought i would never see take that to the bank brohans 

 

[kevzilla]

kz i got the same thing happenin with my right knee at the moment and it is not cool

I take a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement for that. Might take a couple of weeks, but it seems to limit that problem. Take that to the even more pills bank brohan